The Somogear NGAL Pushes On…
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- An update on the testing of the Somogear NGAL 'airsoft' clone.
initial review:
• Somogear NGAL Initial ...
0:00 intro
0:53 Laser alignment
3:37 Laser power measurements
5:10 Mount issues answered
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I have retaken the IR illuminator value in a more effective way, and the new value is 16.57 mW
Thank you for being the only person to actually test a laser and buying a meter. Project Farm would be impressed
Thanks for taking the time to watch. I’m glad you found it useful
This is easily the best NV review channel on YT.
I really appreciate that. I have many more reviews in the works, stay tuned
you a real one for buying the meter and putting out quality content, keep it up
Many more like this to come. The IS EG video will drop later this week
youre making amazing detailed reviews with fact backed data and the proper tools (such as the $300 laser tester) to make educated reviews. thats huge when a lot of people just throw around their opinions. keep up the good work its awesome to see
I appreciate you taking the time to watch, and for the positive feedback.
Very concise! Gotta have that.
Great vid, thanks for taking the time to properly test this device.
Thanks for watching. The initial review focused more on its ability to hold zero, in case you didn’t see that one
Thank you for being a man of the people
Happy to do it!
You definitely earned a sub. I look forward to seeing more from the channel, and especially the comparison.
Happy to have you. Thanks for the support! Lots more like this to come.
Love the video bro.
I like the way you break it down but at the same time keeping it simple
Glad you found it useful. Many more like this to come.
Dude! The quantifiable data is really valuable! Thank you!
Happy to help! Glad you appreciate the detail
Awesome review, look forward to the comparison 🍺
It’s been highly requested, and the results have been interesting thus far. Should be live within about a month.
Just found your channel, and thanks for buying the meter to get the data. Gained a sub 👍
Finally someone with quality testing..great job! Keep up the amazing vids
Thanks, will do!
Mine is still going strong after about 750 rounds.. banged it on a door frame a week ago pretty hard and it still is holding zero. Pretty impressed with this thing…
I did have a nice little drop out of my truck when opening the door, but so far so good for me as well.
@@4MRRanch So I bought a second NGAL a week ago and it seems the new ones are coming with pic rail shims…. worked like a charm
Thank you for buying that meter. Quality content and I appreciate seeing the stats. Keep it up!
You bet, thanks for watching
Well, this makes me feel better about the one I bought yesterday based on other reviews. Thank you for the followup as it is always nice to get more data and more use beyond initial shots.
I’m not saying their QC is perfect, but you have pretty good odds of having a very enjoyable unit for the money. Their customer service seems pretty solid too. Not sure if you saw my initial review but I reach out out to them about the lack of hardware for the pressure pad, and they sent it out right away.
So?...How's it holding up? You got the NGAL?
Literally the best and most fair review of one of these somos finally.
Many more videos like this to come
Great video. Thanks for putting this out.
Glad you enjoyed it, more like this to come.
Appreciate the follow-up video as I have been wanting to try this out myself since I saw your initial video.
The longer I use it; the more confident I am in telling people it’s one of the best options for under $500. Would I take it to war? Absolutely no. Will it be a phenomenal flat range toy? HELL YES.
@@4MRRanch when you say you wouldn't take it to war, is that's because you don't trust it's reliability? Or because you have a few better better LAM's
@@lINORSEMANIl I would take this over no LAM, but I would not default to a clone as a primary choice. The somogear is not waterproof, so you’d have to be careful in the field to not water log it.
@@4MRRanch makes sense, thanks for the response, just bought one
That mount is a dealbreaker
I didn’t make it clear this only happens on rails it doesn’t play well in. There isn’t the tethering motion on rails with proper fitment.
I have one, ran it on a BCM, Ballistic advantage, Geissle mk14 and now a ADM UIC mod2… No wobbling issues or clamping issues.
No issues on DD uppers
I had the same issue with the handguard that came on my Adams Arms P2 .308 AR10. I'm pretty sure they use a Samson handguard. I ended up taking some shim stock and put it inside the rail grabber. Once I did that, all the wiggle and teeter tooter went away. I ended up replacing that handguard with Adams Arms newer AARS handguard. That version didn't need the shim stock, and the NGAL mounted up nice and tight by itself. Haven't had any other issues at all with the NGAL. Say what you want, but I'll take it for the price I paid. I am eager to see your video on the IS-EG NGAL model. Also, do you have any plans to do a review of the IS MK4 NGAL?
It doesn’t wobble at all on my sig mcx. I really do believe it depends on the rail. I’ll have to throw it on my mk18 to see if it’s as rock solid on the RIS 2😊
Excellent video. Thank you for doing this review.
Glad it was helpful!
Absolutely awesome review!
Thanks for watching and the kind words.
Very thorough review. Keep it up
Many more like this already in the works.
Great info. Keep it coming.
That’s the plan! Just waiting on my buddy to get some nods..
Great format and like the use of measurement tools. Keep it up. Would like to see other night vision laser tests.
Well the good news is that there’s about 8 videos like this in the works!
Thanks for the detailed review. Might pick one up.
Thanks for watching.
Great video! Checked all the boxes!
Glad to hear it!
I have enjoyed the zeroing process of my Somogear NGAL. Telluric makes zeroing targets for the NGAL. I bought a pack and got to work. (It was too much fun to really be work. Honestly, I just enjoy shooting.) I was looking for the actual (functional) filters but have not found any that are sold to non-military/non-law enforcement. When I used the unit with my ATN X_Sight ii HD, I could not see the difference in adjustments made to the illuminator. Having said that, though, I saw some rings in the ATN scope and those rings got wider and narrower when turning the knob. I did not experience the rail wobble that many others have experienced. All in all, I am really pleased with this purchase. Thank you for your coverage of this product,
I’m glad you found this video helpful. Thanks for sharing your experience. Somo should pay me commission.. I’m sure my vids are selling them lots of units lol
@@4MRRanch Honestly. I looked at the NGAL but was not ready to pull out my wallet till after I'd watched your video a few times.
Some surplus stores have them.
These reviews are fantastic you earned a sub
Much appreciated!
Thanks for the information. You post excellent content.
I’m glad you find it valuable. Thanks for watching!
It may be a chinesium “toy” but it’s certainly a way around the whole night vision and aiming device gatekeepers. I can’t justify paying an arm and a leg.
For the cost this comes in at, hard to beat.
Saaaaame. And just to get an expensive grey market "Gucci" laser.
It makes hits under nods and holds zero not to mention its full power unlike those gay nuetered civilian lasers. So the gucci queers can overpay all they want Idc ill use the money i saved on ammo to actually train with
Gatekeepers?
@@RedEyePergo this guy gets it
super informative video, appreciate the effort. thank you!!
Happy to help!
Good video, thanks for the update. Subscribed
Welcome to the channel. More like this to come
Thanks for the review! Subscribed
Thanks for watching and for subscribing!
Great testing!!
Thanks for watching
Appreciate your efforts with this mate. Accurate data points and real world findings. Keep on going 👍🏻
LOTS like this to come!
Yup
Great review
Thanks for watching
Thanks for this info!
Happy to provide it!
I do appreciate your content bro thanks 🤙🏻
Thanks for watching!
For the mouting issue, I wiggled that metal clip under the flathead screw abit with finger and then it fit and tightend perfectly on my MCMR 10 handguard
Good to know there’s work arounds
Thank you for the work you did for this video
Thanks for taking the time to watch. More like this to come.
Nice video. Appreciate the detail.
Thank you!
Great video man! You have a new subscriber
Thanks for the sub! Glad you liked it, more to come.
awesome vid dude!
Much appreciated!
You talked me into buying one.
Great vid bro!
Appreciate it!
Nice work sir, I have one and I'm very happy with it :) it's much brighter than most LAMs, I put it up against my friends mawl and the somo was a lot stronger even on low, some people may not like that, it can potentially autogate your nods but for longer range illumination and spotting it's great.
Thanks for sharing your experience, I’ll be comparing it to a mawl soon myself
Thanks for your work man.. I got one based off your other video. It is on a Scar 17, holding up so far after firing with it and slamming it onto a railing really hard a bunch of times (if it's gonna break it's gonna break now!). After sending back a Steiner for warranty I was up for trying new stuff.
Wow, it’s holding up on a scar 17? That’s pretty impressive.
Great video, thank you.
Thanks for watching
Very good video thank you for sharing sir !
Thanks for watching!
Nice review!
Thanks for watching
Greatest vid of all time
Thanks for watching.
Bro this is God's work. Keep the "alternatives" reviews coming!
Lots to come
I already own one of these, as well as two of the real one. I appreciate you putting a quality video out about this. Subscribed and shared.
I’m very curious to see how these compare to the real deal. Currently trying to work something out to compare to the real thing near term. Other the the divergence of the illuminator, how much better/worse is the somo based on your experience?
@@4MRRanch I've had the L3 for just under a year at this point and the Somo for maybe 4 months. The illuminator is really the winner for the Somo since it is vcsel. The real NGAL doesn't have near as clean of an illuminator - and let's be honest: if you are getting a full power unit, it's not for the laser it's for the illum. The real NGAL has a better, tighter laser but I haven't checked divergence. The Somo has significantly more bloom than either of my real ones.
@@4MRRanch dang it, what group did you post this in? My phone refreshed and I never saw.
@R55Shibby lmfao you clearly don't have an Ngal what you described is not the case in any capacity
@@johnadams673 I can't post pics here, but I do in fact have 2 of them. And a Raid.
Great video man
Thanks for watching
@@4MRRanch yeah man keep it up !
Great follow up
Thanks for checking it out
Nice, thanks.
You’re welcome, thanks for watching
Amazing video
Thank you!
Nice work.
Thank you
Great video.
Thanks for watching
Great video
Thank you
I subscribed because of the meter. I hope you’re happy.
Video appreciated!
Thank you!
Your awesome dude!!!
I appreciate you!
Very professional testing. Here's an algorithm bump.
Much appreciated. More like this to come very soon.
Love the video 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽
Glad you enjoyed
Thx for the meter
Thanks for watching
I'm interested in seeing the comparison! I Have my eye on the invisible sight
The invisible sight is pretty damn impressive for the money. I’m excited to share the comparison with everyone.
I appreciate the money spent, subbed and liked. 4:22
I appreciate your support!
He’s the Charlie Daniels of the Torque Wrench everybody!
I don’t follow.. the triple click is proper operation I swear lol
And his name is Earl
Feels like its exceedingly rare for anyone in the guntuber community to actually put up numbers. I like!
Which is a shame, but trying to do my part to put out good info
I might grab a few these
You could get about 10 for the cost of the real one lol
Very nice
Thank you
thanks for buying the meter
Happy to help
Interested to see some weather testing.
Probably won’t intentionally beat it up because it’s been a fun unit and I plan to keep using it long term. I tried to see if Somogear would send me one to torture test but they aren’t interested, even tho I’ve probably sold them hundreds of units at this point lol. If I had the throw away cash to beat one up, I definitely would.
Yeah buddy!
Thanks for watching
I contacted somogear about the mount bc I had the same issue. They sent me a new mount screw asap and it’s rock solid on all of my rails with very little torque.
I gotta give it to them, they adapt QUICK to customer issues and concerns
Cool!
Hard to beat it for the money
@@4MRRanch I agree
Comment for algorithm. Good work sir!
Thank you! Next review getting ready to go live pending UA-cam cooperating with me
I’m here from your Facebook post
Welcome!
For list/research purposes. I have the red ngal somo and it isnt compatible with my 300blk psa jakl upper. But does work with my magpul pic rail i put on the side of my rifle
Glad you found something that works. Good to know about the JAKL. I want one bad!
New sub here. To the point, with data. What's not to like. Thanks! I'll be around for a while!
Thanks for watching. More like this to come.
Commenting for algo, great work!
electrical tape cured my rail gap that caused the wobble. havent had a problem with it since
I appreciate you! Thanks for the support and sharing your experience. The wobble only happens to me on rails that aren’t fitted well to the somo. I didn’t make that point clear unfortunately..
I just got reviewing a SMSlaser XK68 IR, I'd be really interested to see what your tool says in terms of laser output. I can send it to ya for review if you want! Great vid!
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Would love to see this. I can send you mine too. I jb welded my mount to the unit itself. If you wanted to factor out the shift of zero between the mount and the unit, this is the way to do it. Its held up pretty good to a few drop tests I did.
It looks like sms is working on a new version of the xk68 where the mount is built into the unit, lower profile too.
I bought mine a couple months ago, It has stood up to 5.56 so far, only gripes are that some of my zeroing turrets don't click anymore and the IR laser is too damn bright (ND filters for the NGAL are impossible to find)
Yeah I keep trying to tell people you don’t need THAT strong of IR lasers. A filter would really help.
Great video! You did it!
Also, this might be the way to get FP units. Chinese "toys"...
It’s sad the laser market is what it is, but these are proving to be viable.
@@4MRRanch 100%. Love it. Wish we could get the guts in a more stable body.
@@joemo1033 this body honestly doesn’t feel bad at all, with the caveat the rail it’s mounted to fits it properly. Still no loss of zero or function.
I have a Somo NGAL Gen3. I have over 3,000 rounds on it and no zero shift yet. No rail play or teeter on my 11.5" URGI or Spear LT either. Curious if the Gen4 will have these issues?!
Zero movement on my geissle handguard. Only my BCM KMR so far. P
Yup washer and or tape it if possible.
If necessary
Excellent content. Is there a specific rating of protective eyewear to protect against IR lasers you recommend or are any generic laser eye pro acceptable.
I used a $10 pair on Amazon. I’m not saying it’s the best.. but I haven’t gone blind yet lol
Anything is better than nothing
Thank you! definitely gonna grab one when i get my nag, also what’s that tan smg? That things awesome
It’s a heavily customized CZ Scorpion
@@4MRRanch oh okay, just went to a shop with one for sale for 800, i forgot 19 year olds cant buy smgs. thanks!
I have a somogear peq15 and the ir illuminator focus shifts the beam as you change between wide and narrow focus. Does the ngal have this problem?
No, this one stays much more centered, I haven’t noticed shifting like on their PEQ
Waiting for it to get back in stock
Check every few days. They sporadically restock. It may still be their new year tho.
@@4MRRanch 100%
have you noticed any momentary shut offs when firing? something that would make it look like flashing downrange. other videos have mentioned that kind of issue.
I have not noticed this
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Glad to hear it
One point I also want to make about the offset between the IR and the visible laser is more a question than anything, and it's when are you going to be shooting anything at distance with the visible laser anyways? I'm far more concerned about the accuracy of the IR laser, since the visible laser is only important to me for either marking for squad mates or for CQB.
Well ideally if they were perfectly co aligned you could zero either with your optic at 100+ yards, making any offset negligible as you get closer and also not having to use night vision to accomplish this. I still don’t think it’s too bad for the price point
Yeah I agree that being able to daylight zero without having to put guesswork into it or use special targets is a big factor in visible lasers. But I'm just saying it's not a deal breaker since I would be prioritizing the IR. I think that the new gen 2 ngal (if that's what you have) is starting to look like a good option for people on a budget. I run a full power PEQ and I love it but that's two grand a lot of people may not have. @@4MRRanch
Great job! I wish the illuminator was stronger than it is.
Honestly for 250 yards and in, it's pretty solid. It doesn't narrow super tight and I think that is the biggest downfall of this current generation from Somo.
So for a 300blk build as a PDW would this or the Rovyon be a better budget option?
Thank you gangster for buying da tester
Happy to do it
Fantastic data points, earned yourself a sub. Is beam divergence adjustable for the IR illuminator, like on the PEQ15 (1-105mrad)?
Would also be awesome to know the measured beam divergence on these NGALs - it can be directly measured (pain in the ass though), or using beam profilers/wavefront sensors. Not sure if that device you have is capable of measuring it, but would be good data nonetheless.
The 16.8mW peak on the vis laser is definitely stronger than the peak of the PEQ15, but not all that concerning if you’re not viewing it directly (shining into your eyes) or firing it in a highly reflective environment.
IIRC the peq15’s vis laser is 5mW (standard laser pointer limit), its IR laser 27.5mW, and illuminator 45mW maximum - that’s admittedly from memory though.
But yeah, this thing definitely falls into class 3B territory, lol
Yes the illuminator divergence is adjustable. I compare it to a couple illuminators on the initial review that’s on my channel. This clone can’t get super tight or super wide, but is an improvement over their peq 15 clone
Id like to see a somogear ngal waterproofing methods video
I might eventually tear it apart to see if I can upgrade or reinforce anything, but so far it’s been more than reliable for a range toy and am not currently planning to screw that up on my end. Eventually though..