@khandwa style it’s definitely weird to call it a robot. It’s an actual person just using an emulated and/or modified version of the game. It’s a different story for DwangoAC’s TASbot which is a machine that replicates TASes on live hardware, however the original inputs it is replicating are done by a human
14:35 Rerecord count is how many times the TAS went "backwards in time" to repeat a section. Basically, the TAS doesn't actually know what the RNG will be, but the person recording will be making save states so they can go back to the save state and try again to get the best RNG for every section. Each time they revert to a previous save state, +1 is added to the rerecord count.
Actually, this depends on the TAS. For example, I know of a Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door TAS where the person making it was keeping track of the game's internal RNG for most of the TAS because they needed to manipulate it to get multiple drops in a single room, which nessesitated some all-run RNG manipulation to force the game to spawn exactly the right enemy encounters, which is harder than it sounds because they needed to make one of the encounters have an enemy holding a badge, which is rare, and tricky because all the encounters have their enemy lineup and held items rolled simultaneously upon entering the room.
@@alexstewart9592 That video by Malleo was super fun and interesting to watch. The reason they didn't "brute force" like this HK TAS is because it would take up precious runtime to find the correct seed in the run itself. So they found a good RNG seed ahead of time and worked their way back from there. To do this they needed to have a great understanding of how the RNG worked in TTYD: they needed to know exactly what would progress the RNG and where it would be at that particular point in the run. They also made a script to scout for the good seed, the one with the two badges in one encounter, because doing this manually would take an insane amount of time. When they found a good seed nearby they used a clever trick to get there as fast as possible, every time you slide through the menu in TTYD RNG advances by 10 values, so it's a very quick way to get ahead in RNG since they could do it 30 times a second I believe
pretty sure the upslashes he mentions at 3:56 are done to delay the wings animation by adding a nail animation, therefore skipping the dip of the double jump
I also think that u can use another technique where where u upslash and do small movements left and right to end the animation of the upslash allowing u to upslash quicker
Regarding both the white palace and PoP TAS's, I assume that the way they pogo the sawblades above them was using the extended nail reach from mark of pride/longnail/a combination of the two? That's the only way I can think of, haha :D Great video, Fire!
this is actually insane though the little details like the wall nail hits and the pogo-doublejump-walljump fire pointed out are crazy and the bits where they squeeze through the little gaps between the sawblades
I love that as a highly skilled player fire explains how/why do some certain tricks work like that. As a causal player I might never be able to use these tricks but it’s always very interesting to watch
What's terrifying is that the TAS isn't just fighting with complete power, it's literally TOYING AROUND during the fights. It even hops around happily and DANCES while there's gaps between its murder fests.
I enjoy having your explanations, otherwise it would be too fast for me to understand and see differences with normal/players speedruns. 😅 Even the fact that it looks more smooth and optimized is something I'm not sure I could have explained, as simple as it might sound when you say it. Thank you! 😌
just out of curiousity could the nail swings be for rng manipulation on the kings molds? i don't know why the rng manip would be valuable but this is one of the things i remember seeing in the any% tas i think it was and it could be why the slashes are used
1:10 if u jump from a wall you have 1 frame time to get the dipless 2jump if it is from the ground u have 3 frames, which is barly possable to do without skript (and the nail swings after any jump into a 2 jump is to make the 2. jump delayd, still without a dip)
he was literally on steel soul and did not care about the ant that is falling to his head. and got trougth the sword by parrying. he even looked his inventory for 3 seconds when god tamer was jumping. insane
if I remember right, it's something along the lines of pressing and releasing jump on the frame you touch the ground, and that puts you in a permanent grounded state meaning you can continue jumping in the air, as if you were on the ground. Then I think you break that by dashing, double jumping, or stuff like that if you want to stop airwalking
hey man just found your god gamers series thing, dont know if you want to take it outside of hollow knight but if you do i think the SL1 fists only playthrough of dark souls 3 is perfect for it as the story behind the run pretty similar to the any radiance with all the thought to be impossible kind of stuff, a player called g soul was the first person to make alot of progress with the run and managed to do all but 4 bosses which was insane for the time, these 4 bosses were thought to be completely impossible but since then alot of new strats and players came along and the full run was completed by the first person last year and since then 2 others have done it. The story behind this entire run and in particular those 4 bosses is very interesting and many many people were involved in the creation of strategies and completion of the run. The run contains some of the hardest and longest boss kills ever done and many people consider it to be the hardest dark souls challenge run to be ever completed.
You probably already know this but just forgot in the moment, but at like 7:10 you asked how you pogo something above you, the swing hit box goes a little bit up if you notice, so it’s hard and precise, but not any challenge for a TAS
i think the only reason they could pogo things above them was the nail lengthening charms so the bigger nail hitbox would be big enough to hit above them.
The pogos where it looks above the knight are done using the back swing of the sword, I found myself while playing casual that you can climb spike walls with pogos, just carefully.
I stood on the thorns platforms in path of pain but failed 90% of the time (edit) you can pogo things above you if you are at a very precise angle with mark of pride
I was planning on skipping the coll 3 TAS because I hadn't done it yet and I didn't want spoilers. I needn't have worried, I still have no idea what it is like.
Dont mind me over here still struggling with the last round of the Colluseum of Fools and Grim lmao... Listen it's a big jump from my false start two years ago where I put twenty hours into the game, most of it wondering around trying not to die and having no idea what was going on. I just beat the white palace and on xbox I've got like a bunch of achievements that less than 5 percent of people have so I cant be that bad. 😭😂😭😂 (Edit: I had no idea it was gonna do white palace at the start. I'm getting angry PTSD 😭🤣😥🙃)
To me, Grimm isn't that bad and I still redo the fight because I find it really fun as well as because it was the first radiant boss that I beat. But colosseum 3 just about destroyed my sanity. I would get so far and then the primal aspids or the volt twisters would just combo me to death. I beat it, but it took the wind right out of my sails.
One thing is to go faster than you can understand, which is most of speedruns in my case, but this guy goes faster than the screen f*cking MOVES. HES LITERALLY FASTER THAN THE GAME ITSELF
Regarding the double jump dipping... Not always happening, it’s entirely possible to do a slip-off-the-button snap-back-on to double jump perfectly without frame perfection. It’s hard, tho. And the dip is most obvious when fighting Uumuu, damn them. xD
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On rooms where the tas needs to move up, it almost looks like it's floating the entire way up, its just so fast
i do believe airwalk works by jumping on every frame causing the game to never actually log that you are to stop jumping or smthn like that
hey Fire i have a little question how does multiplayer for hollow knight work exectlly can you make a tutorial again for the other Mod api
pls
This "TAS" guy is really good. I have seen him do some other games too.
Waiting for woooshed ppl
@@mrbiscit if you say it, less people will wooosh!
TaS iS a RoBoT tHoUgH
@khandwa style it’s definitely weird to call it a robot. It’s an actual person just using an emulated and/or modified version of the game. It’s a different story for DwangoAC’s TASbot which is a machine that replicates TASes on live hardware, however the original inputs it is replicating are done by a human
Fummy enough, the first time I watched a TASbot video I thought it was just another fancy username but quickly realised there's no way it was human. 🤣
14:35 Rerecord count is how many times the TAS went "backwards in time" to repeat a section. Basically, the TAS doesn't actually know what the RNG will be, but the person recording will be making save states so they can go back to the save state and try again to get the best RNG for every section. Each time they revert to a previous save state, +1 is added to the rerecord count.
Ah, thank you for the explanation!
Actually, this depends on the TAS. For example, I know of a Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door TAS where the person making it was keeping track of the game's internal RNG for most of the TAS because they needed to manipulate it to get multiple drops in a single room, which nessesitated some all-run RNG manipulation to force the game to spawn exactly the right enemy encounters, which is harder than it sounds because they needed to make one of the encounters have an enemy holding a badge, which is rare, and tricky because all the encounters have their enemy lineup and held items rolled simultaneously upon entering the room.
@@fireb0rn no problem, thank you too for all the good content :)
@@alexstewart9592 That video by Malleo was super fun and interesting to watch. The reason they didn't "brute force" like this HK TAS is because it would take up precious runtime to find the correct seed in the run itself. So they found a good RNG seed ahead of time and worked their way back from there. To do this they needed to have a great understanding of how the RNG worked in TTYD: they needed to know exactly what would progress the RNG and where it would be at that particular point in the run. They also made a script to scout for the good seed, the one with the two badges in one encounter, because doing this manually would take an insane amount of time. When they found a good seed nearby they used a clever trick to get there as fast as possible, every time you slide through the menu in TTYD RNG advances by 10 values, so it's a very quick way to get ahead in RNG since they could do it 30 times a second I believe
That sounds like black magic to me
pretty sure the upslashes he mentions at 3:56 are done to delay the wings animation by adding a nail animation, therefore skipping the dip of the double jump
That's what I was thinking as well
I also think that u can use another technique where where u upslash and do small movements left and right to end the animation of the upslash allowing u to upslash quicker
The TAS pogoing on sawblades that are practically above the knight are hilarious.
Regarding both the white palace and PoP TAS's, I assume that the way they pogo the sawblades above them was using the extended nail reach from mark of pride/longnail/a combination of the two? That's the only way I can think of, haha :D Great video, Fire!
I watch your videos lol
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@@benja1378 thanks, wasn't aware cuberknight used they/them!
@@Ani you're toxic 😂😂😂... I'm subscribing lmao
@@Ani i mean, if we don't know, it's best to just use they/them since its ambiguous
im so glad this is not humanly possible cause otherwise id feel so bad about my hk skills
this is actually insane though the little details like the wall nail hits and the pogo-doublejump-walljump fire pointed out are crazy and the bits where they squeeze through the little gaps between the sawblades
@@icepaw2006 don't forget pogo sawblades that are above the character
This must be the first fireb0rn video you've watched...
Just watch some monstahler and you will feel like you absolutely suck at hk
The white palace looks like the runner is almost flying at times. Kinda envy that kinda skill
well I’m glad that kinda skill is not rly humanly possible without TAS lol
I always love fire's reaction content because it's so interesting to hear his thoughts on things.
I want fire's reaction to drug
The way that the TAS parried the Tamer's final hit gave a cool effect.
That was nice attention to detail by Cuber Knight.
think about the audience for that colosseum watching hundreds of enemies being slaughtered in 4 minutes
The craziest part of this is that they got 2 essence in Colo 3
The Knight got so tired of waiting for Silksong that he snapped out of the infection, got out of the Black Egg and unlocked ultra-instinct
If fireb0rn made me feel bad at the game this absolutely shit on my confidence
I love that as a highly skilled player fire explains how/why do some certain tricks work like that. As a causal player I might never be able to use these tricks but it’s always very interesting to watch
What's terrifying is that the TAS isn't just fighting with complete power, it's literally TOYING AROUND during the fights. It even hops around happily and DANCES while there's gaps between its murder fests.
i've seen these videos a couple of times now and they NEVER get old, they are just so good
mom can we have a TAS? no we have a TAS at home
TAS at home: fireborn
TAS stands for "tool assisted Speedrun" for anyone who doesn't know.
thank you thank you
No problem I figured I was confused when I first saw someone talk about TAS so in case anyone else didn't know I'd say it
This is great content, I’m always more impressed watching along with your commentary than watching the run dry!
Thanks for the video and I love when TAS
does different realy hard challanges like"O boi thats so easy"!
I enjoy having your explanations, otherwise it would be too fast for me to understand and see differences with normal/players speedruns. 😅 Even the fact that it looks more smooth and optimized is something I'm not sure I could have explained, as simple as it might sound when you say it. Thank you! 😌
fireb0rn seems like one of the kindest and most humble people you could ever meet
just out of curiousity could the nail swings be for rng manipulation on the kings molds? i don't know why the rng manip would be valuable but this is one of the things i remember seeing in the any% tas i think it was and it could be why the slashes are used
Nice "Watching TAS videos speedrun"! The RNG was pretty good with those upcoming vids :D You truly are a god watcher.
Imagine doing the Path of Pain hitless, then, at the end, you remember that you forgot the WayWard Compass.... :D
1:10
if u jump from a wall you have 1 frame time to get the dipless 2jump
if it is from the ground u have 3 frames, which is barly possable to do without skript
(and the nail swings after any jump into a 2 jump is to make the 2. jump delayd, still without a dip)
he was literally on steel soul and did not care about the ant that is falling to his head. and got trougth the sword by parrying. he even looked his inventory for 3 seconds when god tamer was jumping. insane
I love TAS videos and commentaries so much !
Everybody gangsta until the TAS becomes Sanji
this is amazing.
TAS runs are so freaking cool man
about the significance of the hopslashes and the general slashes, they can avoid the dive of the double jump
That Trial of Fools TAS was like watching John Wick in action lmao.
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God these TAS runs are wild I can barely tell what's happening
The Collseoum enemies: why do I hear boss music?
HOW does he air walk???!
if I remember right, it's something along the lines of pressing and releasing jump on the frame you touch the ground, and that puts you in a permanent grounded state meaning you can continue jumping in the air, as if you were on the ground. Then I think you break that by dashing, double jumping, or stuff like that if you want to stop airwalking
hey man just found your god gamers series thing, dont know if you want to take it outside of hollow knight but if you do i think the SL1 fists only playthrough of dark souls 3 is perfect for it as the story behind the run pretty similar to the any radiance with all the thought to be impossible kind of stuff, a player called g soul was the first person to make alot of progress with the run and managed to do all but 4 bosses which was insane for the time, these 4 bosses were thought to be completely impossible but since then alot of new strats and players came along and the full run was completed by the first person last year and since then 2 others have done it. The story behind this entire run and in particular those 4 bosses is very interesting and many many people were involved in the creation of strategies and completion of the run. The run contains some of the hardest and longest boss kills ever done and many people consider it to be the hardest dark souls challenge run to be ever completed.
If Pale King saw the Knight's deadly efficiency, he'd knew who is truly Hollow.
this TAS dude is really cool
Still waiting on the grass speedrun TAS
4:13 it's like they're flying
Looking at the white palace TAS makes me believe it has actual wings instead of a double jump
You probably already know this but just forgot in the moment, but at like 7:10 you asked how you pogo something above you, the swing hit box goes a little bit up if you notice, so it’s hard and precise, but not any challenge for a TAS
4:11 I was recently watching the coop room Rando Fire did a month ago, and this struck me
Great video
Pale king: starting to changing his mind about hollow knight
I wanted to see the Fury x Strength TAS. And I'm not disappointed, lol.
The thumbnail time should be gold lol
The up slashes is rng manipulation I think bc every action and input you do in hollow knight determines what the next rooms rng
This was the only time I have seen someone using fury of the fallen
i think the only reason they could pogo things above them was the nail lengthening charms so the bigger nail hitbox would be big enough to hit above them.
for a split second at 14:10 I thought that the TAS had compass equipped just to flex
The pogos where it looks above the knight are done using the back swing of the sword, I found myself while playing casual that you can climb spike walls with pogos, just carefully.
the nail swings reduce wings animation but retain upward motion
TAS is pretty pog
I stood on the thorns platforms in path of pain but failed 90% of the time (edit) you can pogo things above you if you are at a very precise angle with mark of pride
A TAS is basically just:
“👇👉😀🙁☹️😄👈👈✋”
all in one second.
The mawlek in Colo3 just hits the ground and immediately explodes
I want to see a all glitches full game Tas now
Hay, video idea.. do P5 with greed, joni’s blessing sprint master, dash master and glowing womb, just a little challenge
TAS
Totally Awesome Speedrun
TAS is a GodGamer confirmed
okay but that god tamer parry was pure flex
"the problem with being faster than light is that you are a TAS"
That's exactly how they say it.
Why did i think elsewise?
@@moat_n_coat and would you look at that? Looks like something has brought us together once more.
nail swing help 'em cut the monarch wing's animation for faster pogo + dj
imagine my shock when i took probably *seven hours* (in total, over multiple sessions) to get through white palace
Downslashes have a hitbox that slightly goes above the knight
And it’s increased due to mark of pride.
i think the nail boost u little bit to the back so he can return to the wall sooner
Higher beings, please stop running wait please just listen to me-
Dude just *FLIES*
I was planning on skipping the coll 3 TAS because I hadn't done it yet and I didn't want spoilers. I needn't have worried, I still have no idea what it is like.
TAS plays Hollow Knight, "The Floor is Lava"-Edition
this tas guy must have a really good gaming chair
It just looks like they're LEVETATING.
looks like i'm watching something in 3x speed
You should react to the Any radiance hitless TAS
Dont mind me over here still struggling with the last round of the Colluseum of Fools and Grim lmao...
Listen it's a big jump from my false start two years ago where I put twenty hours into the game, most of it wondering around trying not to die and having no idea what was going on.
I just beat the white palace and on xbox I've got like a bunch of achievements that less than 5 percent of people have so I cant be that bad. 😭😂😭😂
(Edit: I had no idea it was gonna do white palace at the start. I'm getting angry PTSD 😭🤣😥🙃)
To me, Grimm isn't that bad and I still redo the fight because I find it really fun as well as because it was the first radiant boss that I beat. But colosseum 3 just about destroyed my sanity. I would get so far and then the primal aspids or the volt twisters would just combo me to death. I beat it, but it took the wind right out of my sails.
first time I see a reverse pogo and a reverse parry
Let’s take a moment to appreciate the tanjiro skin lol
I love TAS
We nerd out over speedrunners, and speedrunners nerd out over T.A.S :)
Leaked video of zote the mighty in the colloseum
TAS speedruns are scuffed my god
9:50 HOW THE F THAT TAS ENTERED BETWEEN THOSE SAWBLADES
the tas looks like its flying lol
One thing is to go faster than you can understand, which is most of speedruns in my case, but this guy goes faster than the screen f*cking MOVES. HES LITERALLY FASTER THAN THE GAME ITSELF
Is nobody gonna talk about the fact that the TAS had void heart unequipped?
i accidentally got airwalk once trying to get the relic above kings station, it was weird
At some points the White Palace TAS is just like "Lmao whats ground"
It just looks like it’s flying sometimes
Regarding the double jump dipping... Not always happening, it’s entirely possible to do a slip-off-the-button snap-back-on to double jump perfectly without frame perfection. It’s hard, tho. And the dip is most obvious when fighting Uumuu, damn them. xD
Les gooo
I think the random swings might animation cancel? Like allows double jumps faster
Finally caught an early upload XD
4:13
Me: At this point he’s flying
I think the random upswings could be rng manipulation.
Welcome to cuber knight enjoyers club
thumbs up
Literally built different
You should watch his anyrad 2.0 TAS