You will find mh4u to be the best game ever made. It has the slower intentional gameplay you are loving but with a pinch of more smooth action and less clunkiness.
I think it’s so cool that you already noticed that mechanic-connection between endgame Iceborne hunts and 3U hunts (so far). I think old crusty hunters sometimes get the impression that new MH games are all mindless button mash hunts. And a lot of them are, but alatreon, Fatalis, and Velkhana prove that you can make methodical, deliberate encounters in a faster-paced, smoother engine. Very insightful observation, especially for someone newer to the games.
You’re absolutely right, but you must admit that World only having around 3 or so fights like that is kinda the problem for older hunters? It’s not that reactionary combat is bad, most of my favorite games are like that, but lots of us like Monster Hunter for it’s methodical, purposeful combat, and for the most part World/Rise doesn’t have that. Still love World and Rise, but it’s an understandable issue I think.
@@CaptainEffort yes I totally agree that 5th gen needs more hunts like these. It feels like Capcom has been too scared lately to make early monsters challenging, and it is holding them back from making encounters like we see on a more regular basis in older generations.
@@marcofromtropoje3169 One idea I have is to simply just make the early monsters hit a lot harder and make their down times a little bit shorter. Make early monsters simple enough to understand how they fight, but much more punishing when you do get hit. I think this will make combat a lot more deliberate since the player can't get away with mindless attacking anymore.
@@kurosan0079 I agree, those seem like reasonable fixes. The movesets of new monsters like Aknosom and Bishaten are pretty interesting and hard to avoid but they are just lacking in damage, and they get constantly interrupted by our insane damage. Doesn’t help that we can heal pretty much instantly too. My fear is that people will complain that damage buffs for the monsters would just be “artificial difficulty”, but I think that would actually be a step in the right direction
@@marcofromtropoje3169 Yeah, the instant healing is way too forgiving in my opinion and it should go back to how it was in World. Another thing I would want them to change is the camp. Not sure how to change it exactly, but as it is now, it's way too strong. And yeah, people would complain if the monsters' damage were buffed, but I think it should be easy enough to adjust.
You got incredibly lucky with the goldenfish. It's random whether or not they actually spawn in the area so you can easily spend 20+ minutes just zone switching until they actually spawn.
Completely agree about the fighting in world/rise vs older games. Why I think I think I like mhgu more than rise despite being way better at rise. Also the editing on this vid was particularly hilarious!
I watch the full stream the other days and got a couple of suggestions to ease your journey 1. Keep a to-do list so that you are aware and know what you want to get. That way every time you are on a quest you can spend several minutes each quest doing gathering to complete your list. 2. To be an accomplished hunter you need to use all resources available. So download all maps with resources point as well as weapon tree so that you can plan on what to do and how you can do it. Those data are crucial to ensure each playtime is meaningful and you make actual progress. and not just wandering around mindlessly. 3. Pre quest preparation. Since you only starting and doing the village quest, I would suggest always having these items before starting the quest. 1. Whetstones - Half from max 2. Potion - 10 3. Book of combine 1 & 2(Crucial for combining to make the mega potion without fail) 4 Paintball 5 Pickaxe/Bug (depend on your todo list) 6 Stamina item( steak) These are the basics and it is advisable to always gather(honey, Herb, Blue mushroom, whetstone) so that you can increase your stockpile by just gathering and not spending money or resources so early in the games. The list will change once your progress into the games and you know what actually is needed to depend on the quest. 4. Always eat ration/steak to max your stamina bar. Always ensure your stamina bar are full so you can do a lot of things before you run out of stamina.
Don't know about the use of maps and weapon tree, that can be kinda spoilery, so i think it's best if he doesn't mess around with that until high rank.
@@dralakba-dusk31 he already unlock several of the map already and the chat had help him with resource point. The map with resources point on it are just like the map that you got in world and rise. It is really important and he should at least know the important resource point. Weapon tree are also important so that you won't waste a lot of resources here on. Hey Jay on the latest stream also kinda being duped by the ui and taught he already done with upgrade path because he can't see the weapon tree like the new games. Weapon tree are important so that he won't get overwhelming and made costly mistake.
There is no partner, in any monster game, that will carry you more than cha cha and kayamba. They're the legends our prowlers pray to before every hunt
Qurupeco with yellow sharpness brings me back. The two friends I learned the game with actually did that too. I still remember I was running late that evening and so when I arrived, they said, "yeeeeah, we faught a duck for 40 minutes and died...". That was when I taught them about crafting and the beginning of some of the best years of my gaming experience.
That fishing quest was the highlight of the stream lol. You got so lucky with the goldenfish, I started 3U for the first time recently and that quest took me 40 minutes to get the goldenfish,
MHGU is the only old game i played, and that old world "clunkiness" is one of the reasons why i love to go back to it every now and then. The fights in old MH games are unforgiving so you have to be very methodical and careful, and you have to ration your use of items because you cant replenish your items at camp. It's a different and rewarding experience that the new games seem to have lost.
Exactly!!! The charm of old world MH is something everyone that started in MHW or MHRise need to experience, even if they just try MHGU and don't go further back!
If you think the Old World is clunky, wait until you use the Lance in it. That's a prime example of clunkyness right there. Still love it though. xD Personally, it's a lot of things: armor and weapon design, how colorful it is, how challenging it can be, loads of monsters...
@@robertbean6508 I started with lance on World... you can imagine how much of a crash it was for me when I got it in Gu.... Not that I wasn't used to the clunkyness in other weapons. xD
Grinding and the desire sensor is something synonymous with the older games. Sometimes the material you want can only be acquired by breaking a part that's hard to reach or has a really high damage threshold. It's part of the reason why clownsuits (mixing armor parts) was more common before world. mhw and by extension ib, made it really easy to get most sets and min-maxing the skills.
I really love how you recognized the beauty of the deadly dance of monster hunter, and how satisfying it is, and how it is absent in some monsters of the newer games (which is better for new players, i agree).
Yeah qurupeco was actually my first wall on my first game, he was very hard for very similar reasons you struggled. I had a pretty sub par weapon at the time too, so I highly recommend focusing on upgrading your longsword, getting green sharpness is top priority. Another tip for future qurupeco fights. If you throw a sonic bomb at him while he is singing, he will completely stop and get momentarily stunned. You are doing great in 3u so far, can't wait to see more!
I wasn't mad about the fishing, I was more confounded on how you got 3 golden fish to spawn without golden fish bait. the spawn chance for golden fish are so low it's almost like the game knew you where streaming and wanted to end the quest as soon as possible.
I like it when this monster hunter journal outro music is very different from other videos. it make MH sounds like a meme but a very special one to keep inside your heart.
Missed your stream last week due to complications. I watched it the next day and man what a fun stream. Fishing only took me like 15 minutes tops, so I don't know what they're crying about. Also, looking good out there Jay. Bashing your Long Swors like a hammer, yeah I've been there. That's why I played a lot of Gunlance in 3U and 4U, that wyvernfire and shelling helps with early thick armors. Lastly I just want to give a shout out to the guy who gifted 100 subs. What a boss. I'm glad you have such a good community and I'm happy to be a part of it. Hopefully I'll see you tonight. "Enjoy the Hunting Life! G!!!" -Instructor
Just watched this stream, it was unbelievably infuriating watching you hit the armored bits of wings and think you couldn't hit the chest of Quru. Keep up the good work!
monster parts also have different % chance depending on the quest too, you can fight a Great Jaggi at 2* or at 4* and the 4* will have a higher chance of dropping a rare monster part from a part break and/or quest reward
So great to see Jay enjoying the Old World and properly meeting the mighty Peco, one of my favorite monsters. Never seen someone call it a duck. Really wish it would come back on the 5 gen! Also the editing on this one is superb! And dont you think you can get away with tha Ultra Mineirinho Adventures at 1:03 Mr Editor ; )
Its great to watch your journey through one of my favorite Monster Hunter games! Just a little tip, your spirit combo (the R button combo) has built in mind's eye, so you never bounce when using it! You can also weave in an extra X button press in between every hit of the Spirit combo when the monster is vulnerable for maximum dps
Qurupeco is a harsh but enlightening sensei. Unlike jagras who's a punching bag. Not that that is a strictly bad thing. Helping you learn your weapon and the deliberate combat, he just isnt too much of a challenge.
Jay finally learn why old Monster Hunter is still better than Iceborne/Rise Fight monster for the first time → set an armor piece or weapon as an objective → hunt the monster again, but this time focus on body parts → learn the monster's attack slowly → come out victorious with new equipment
Something that kind of helps the grinding problem is the food skill lucky cat. This skill boost either the rarity of rewards or the quantity, was never really sure about that. Don't mix this food skill up with super luck cat, that one gives you more zenny at the end of your quest.
You can't get that skill until you unlock the drinks ingredient in the game though, which doesn't happen until high rank. Rare drops are so much more important in this game that you will need it more then.
I think the only reason why people say the shakas are better than the palico is because they can replace some of your hunting items that you generally carry, like paint balls and pitfall traps by becoming living versions of those items themselves, thus freeing up space in your inventory for whatever else.
My my, how the turntables uh...from not wanting to play monster hunter at all to understanding the appeal of classic monster hunter. You've become one of us.
If you want to play the game a certain way, don’t let the chat bother you! We just want to make sure you enjoy it, and were scared that the fishing would put you off if it ended up taking 20 minutes or more. Excited for the next stream!
I remember that goldfish quest when the game came out, literally spent the entire hour catching random crap and failed, tried again and passed, 2 hrs of my life was spent on fishing so I envy Jay here
I liked rise but you're totally right that the focus of the more dynamic combat takes away a bit of the charm of the deliberate, 'clunky' combat pace of classic MH. I still play rise when i'm feeling for a hunt, but it really is on the easy side. some people say the same about world/iceborne, but I personally would defend its' difficulty as being the sweet spot between accessible and challenging. even when I thought I got good at world, the iceborne update consistently upped the challenge and it was a satisfying experience.
The grind is your practice, as well as Moga. Moga is where you truly learn to dance with dragons. Don't short sell Chacha, although Kayamba is better IMHO, he's only started. Wait till he grows. Feed him some meat. You're doing so well so far. It is fascinating to watch someone with some experience in the other games learn 3u. It's infinitely easier than going in blind. Thanks for the opportunity. Tip for today, when you go to gather things you need, choose a few to gather and collect them to the max . More efficient than getting one of this or that when you can come back in a few minutes with ten bones and ten honey and ten blue mushrooms. Also, nulberries are money makers in the farm, once you've stocked up on stuff you need for potions and whatnot.
The grind for rare materials is crazy, especially in G rank where you can only do hub quests. That was one of the things that they specifically fixed in World with all the tickets and higher drop rates. It was super satisfying though to get the drop you needed after multiple tries.
After doing my second attempt for a play through through dark souls 3 (quit first time due to putting a lot into various stats before learning what any of them fully do) while starting dark souls 2, I think back at my time in iceborne and rise up to fatalis (iceborne) and valstrax (rise) and I have to say I love the monsters the most who are the most like dark souls where they aren’t “spamming” but they’re attacking combos in a Sequence that feels like a dance where you trade the action of parrry/dodge with attack countless times until the monster is dead.
For me, Qurupeco is quite adorable. After using one of its attacks, the one where to claps. He will look at his "hands" for a short moment like wondering how he did that. And I used to have him live so that he can call for help in order to get better materials. Wait till you see the helicopter
One of the things I wanted to say was for the targeting system, you’re still using the camera manually, old world targeting was different. You’ll have to tap the target symbol on the game pad, and then periodically tap the left bumper (or left trigger, i don’t remember, I played on a 3DS) to target the monster, so you don’t have to take your fingers off of the attack buttons.
Older games definitely appeal more to patient/methodical hunters who basically play defensively, and the newer games appeal more to aggressive hunters that enjoy being constantly on offense
I feel so bad Jay will never get to visit Loc Lac, the greatest hunting city in the whole series, maybe even the last. I have a feeling there's a lot of people here who feel the same way, but the memories and friends I made there will stay with me forever ^^
re the lower drop quantities: Have fun hunting Lagiacrus like 50 times because its armor kicks ass but it requires an item with a reward rate between 3% and 6%!
man, sharpness is definitely a big priority when you first start out in any of the older games. I have PTSD of not bringing enough whetstones with me a couple times, my lord is it genuinely painful. doesn't make things more 'difficult' but it sure does make that hunt timer go , i didn't see the stream but I have no doubts this is the reason your peco hunt took so long. IMO not enough people mention the massive difference between yellow and green sharpness, it's ridiculous
The reason the onion mask bois are better than palicos is because they are buff as all hell in 3U for some reason. They get some upgrade system later in the game where you can make them so strong they can break monster parts and practically carry hunts for you stupidly easily, not to mention the legendary mask, which makes it so that monsters only target them 70% of the time while taking their own strength even further beyond.
You talking about the differences in combat between 3U and World/Rise is so validating, you have no idea. While yes, to those of us that started with older games this is common knowledge, it’s not easy to articulate to players that have only played World/Rise and think that the only difference in combat is the lack of “clunkiness”. It’s hard to explain to them that that “clunkiness” is intentional, and forces a more methodical, purposeful playstyle. It doesn’t mean that one form of gameplay is better than the other, just that they *are* different. It was really cool to see you catch that so quickly.
That intentional gameplay is what I and many others miss so much from old gen MH. Getting hit is always punishing and the overall combat is much more deliberate, so you really have to pay attention to what the monster is doing if you want to fight effectively. There's less emphasis on doing combos and flashy special moves. It's all fundamentals. I know that style isn't for everyone, but it's one of the things that really makes Monster Hunter unique as an action RPG.
Using item load outside will instantly sort your inventory with the stuff you set it to have, and put anything you have that you don't need back in the box, such a time save btw
It's good that you haven't completely been turned off by the inventory management and clunky UI. If you can get past that you're probably going to have a good time.
Does anyone actually know about what the respawn rate on Goldenfish is? I have never had an issue with any golden fish quest. Are people like, abandoning the quest if none spawn? All you have to do is run back and forth between zones and it respawns all 5 fish. Just seems like impatient or not understanding how the mechanics work.
I still think being deliberate is still weapon dependent. If you're playing Duel blades you don't get as methodological as say you would have to with a Hunting Horn. Once you have a handle on what you're doing it becomes second nature regardless of your weapon choice.
Oh yeah, if your items ever get stolen and the cat escapes, you can still get your items back (I think the Flooded Forest is the only exception here...?). Each map has a Melynx spot somewhere where you can gather your stolen items back.
Yup. The old grind. By the time I got zinogre sns and low rank armor set in 4u, I had him killed 7 times and captured 5 times. On the bright side - I knew his moveset so good that I could fight him without even using any potions.
With 3U and other older games, you really have to break a lot of parts and also capture to get many rewards. Even then you often have to hunt something 10 or more times to complete an armor set if it requires rare materials. The older style and feel of gameplay are exactly why I didn't put much time into World. The further back you go, the slower paced it gets. In monster hunter one most monsters waste your time more often than actively engaging you. Rathalos will just fly around far out of range for the vast majority of his hunt and keep switching areas.
never. capturing has never given more rewards. in fact, until world, it has always given you less rewards because you got 2 rewards instead of 3 carves. capturing is only good when you need specific rewards. it changes the percentages you will get certain items.
Capturing is only really good if you're going for the rare drop because most of them in this game don't drop from body carves. Tldr: always capture Raths and Lagia. You will have such a harder time getting rare drops
@@adsventuresome7511 It also heavily depends on what monster you're fighting. For example you can carve Zinogre Jaspers/Skymeralds and while I don't remember the exact percentage comparison, I'm pretty sure the extra carves make slaying more/just as favorable. And then you have the 4 carve monsters which is even more skewed towards slaying.
I never got a chance to finish this video unfortunately. Halfway through I started hearing this weird goose in the distance and I just know I gotta get out there and ruin someone's day for it. If I survive I promise I'll come back and finish the video.
I'm still hoping you take on a Qurupeco in Moga Forest or in a Multiplayer hunt. You didn't have the true Qurupeco experience yet. If you gear up too much before doing this, you'll miss out on a memorable battle.
Huh, never thought of Curupeco as a DUCK!! 🤣 That aside, I completely understand the your topic of the difference between OG MH and World/Rise. I started replaying MH Freedom Unite using a Vita, and recently fought a TIGREX! WHAT A HUMBLING EXPERIENCE!!! Failed the mission 6 TIMES!! And it was a NORMAL FIGHT!! Not High Rank, not Master, NORMAL!! Eventually, I got my myself up, properly replan my strategies, and did it! I beat this TIGREX!! These games demand one thing over everything else, TO GET GUD AND EARN YOUR SKILLS!!! And I believe it’s something that got lost a little with World/Rise.
You will find mh4u to be the best game ever made. It has the slower intentional gameplay you are loving but with a pinch of more smooth action and less clunkiness.
Plus a good story as well and the most unique and fun monster roster
But 3DS controls 😭
@@HeyJayOfficial you get used to it, or there is an add on thing you can get that gives you a right joystick to use for the camera controls
@@HeyJayOfficial you can setup an emulator to use your controller
@@HeyJayOfficial lock on helps a lot with that
I think it’s so cool that you already noticed that mechanic-connection between endgame Iceborne hunts and 3U hunts (so far).
I think old crusty hunters sometimes get the impression that new MH games are all mindless button mash hunts. And a lot of them are, but alatreon, Fatalis, and Velkhana prove that you can make methodical, deliberate encounters in a faster-paced, smoother engine.
Very insightful observation, especially for someone newer to the games.
You’re absolutely right, but you must admit that World only having around 3 or so fights like that is kinda the problem for older hunters? It’s not that reactionary combat is bad, most of my favorite games are like that, but lots of us like Monster Hunter for it’s methodical, purposeful combat, and for the most part World/Rise doesn’t have that.
Still love World and Rise, but it’s an understandable issue I think.
@@CaptainEffort yes I totally agree that 5th gen needs more hunts like these. It feels like Capcom has been too scared lately to make early monsters challenging, and it is holding them back from making encounters like we see on a more regular basis in older generations.
@@marcofromtropoje3169 One idea I have is to simply just make the early monsters hit a lot harder and make their down times a little bit shorter. Make early monsters simple enough to understand how they fight, but much more punishing when you do get hit. I think this will make combat a lot more deliberate since the player can't get away with mindless attacking anymore.
@@kurosan0079 I agree, those seem like reasonable fixes. The movesets of new monsters like Aknosom and Bishaten are pretty interesting and hard to avoid but they are just lacking in damage, and they get constantly interrupted by our insane damage.
Doesn’t help that we can heal pretty much instantly too.
My fear is that people will complain that damage buffs for the monsters would just be “artificial difficulty”, but I think that would actually be a step in the right direction
@@marcofromtropoje3169 Yeah, the instant healing is way too forgiving in my opinion and it should go back to how it was in World.
Another thing I would want them to change is the camp. Not sure how to change it exactly, but as it is now, it's way too strong.
And yeah, people would complain if the monsters' damage were buffed, but I think it should be easy enough to adjust.
You got incredibly lucky with the goldenfish. It's random whether or not they actually spawn in the area so you can easily spend 20+ minutes just zone switching until they actually spawn.
It easy when you have the bait.
Unless... I forgot that there's no Goldenfish bait on gen.3
@@Reymax164 No, there is goldenfish bait. It's Mega fishing fly + snakebee larva. I just went through that quest the other day.
@@pickboy87 oh, okay thanks.
@@Reymax164 and actually each of the kids gives you the materials to make it.
It's honestly not that rare at all. They have a decently high respawn rate. If it took you 20 minutes you just got unlucky, and Jay wasn't super lucky
I loved the classic Crimson Qurupeco quest. Can't talk about it cause spoils but man I can't wait for that!
I am so ready for that xd.
I just am so excited for *cough that suprise
the hub qurupeco is also quite the surprise for many LR hunters.
And Crimson Qurupeco just looks so pretty 🤩
I just started the quest and I realise what you are talking about. Why did no one prepare me for this😥
Completely agree about the fighting in world/rise vs older games. Why I think I think I like mhgu more than rise despite being way better at rise.
Also the editing on this vid was particularly hilarious!
I watch the full stream the other days and got a couple of suggestions to ease your journey
1. Keep a to-do list so that you are aware and know what you want to get. That way every time you are on a quest you can spend several minutes each quest doing gathering to complete your list.
2. To be an accomplished hunter you need to use all resources available. So download all maps with resources point as well as weapon tree so that you can plan on what to do and how you can do it. Those data are crucial to ensure each playtime is meaningful and you make actual progress. and not just wandering around mindlessly.
3. Pre quest preparation. Since you only starting and doing the village quest, I would suggest always having these items before starting the quest.
1. Whetstones - Half from max
2. Potion - 10
3. Book of combine 1 & 2(Crucial for combining to make the mega potion without fail)
4 Paintball
5 Pickaxe/Bug (depend on your todo list)
6 Stamina item( steak)
These are the basics and it is advisable to always gather(honey, Herb, Blue mushroom, whetstone) so that you can increase your stockpile by just gathering and not spending money or resources so early in the games. The list will change once your progress into the games and you know what actually is needed to depend on the quest.
4. Always eat ration/steak to max your stamina bar. Always ensure your stamina bar are full so you can do a lot of things before you run out of stamina.
Don't know about the use of maps and weapon tree, that can be kinda spoilery, so i think it's best if he doesn't mess around with that until high rank.
@@dralakba-dusk31 he already unlock several of the map already and the chat had help him with resource point. The map with resources point on it are just like the map that you got in world and rise. It is really important and he should at least know the important resource point.
Weapon tree are also important so that you won't waste a lot of resources here on. Hey Jay on the latest stream also kinda being duped by the ui and taught he already done with upgrade path because he can't see the weapon tree like the new games. Weapon tree are important so that he won't get overwhelming and made costly mistake.
Jay: Taalks about the game
Meanwhile Raul: I have achieved comedy.
The sharpness was definitely your biggest problem last time. Especially with Qurupeco's healing ability. But don't worry, it'll get better from here!
There is no partner, in any monster game, that will carry you more than cha cha and kayamba. They're the legends our prowlers pray to before every hunt
Amen.
You're bang-on right about the fastness of Rise (and World to an extent) I hope they revert it at least a little.
Qurupeco with yellow sharpness brings me back. The two friends I learned the game with actually did that too. I still remember I was running late that evening and so when I arrived, they said, "yeeeeah, we faught a duck for 40 minutes and died...". That was when I taught them about crafting and the beginning of some of the best years of my gaming experience.
That fishing quest was the highlight of the stream lol. You got so lucky with the goldenfish, I started 3U for the first time recently and that quest took me 40 minutes to get the goldenfish,
I know this is way too late, but there is a goldenfish bait that specifically spawns them. It's some combination item.
I love Qurupeco so much, such a cool, unique and fun little mechanic
MHGU is the only old game i played, and that old world "clunkiness" is one of the reasons why i love to go back to it every now and then. The fights in old MH games are unforgiving so you have to be very methodical and careful, and you have to ration your use of items because you cant replenish your items at camp. It's a different and rewarding experience that the new games seem to have lost.
Exactly!!! The charm of old world MH is something everyone that started in MHW or MHRise need to experience, even if they just try MHGU and don't go further back!
If you think the Old World is clunky, wait until you use the Lance in it. That's a prime example of clunkyness right there. Still love it though. xD
Personally, it's a lot of things: armor and weapon design, how colorful it is, how challenging it can be, loads of monsters...
@@TheXtremeSS Lance and hammer were my go to weapons! Especially hammer under water, it was truly an art form! 🤣
I've got hundreds of hours in world and rise but my favourite is still portable third, everynow and then I still visit my old friend zinogre there 😌
@@robertbean6508 I started with lance on World... you can imagine how much of a crash it was for me when I got it in Gu.... Not that I wasn't used to the clunkyness in other weapons. xD
Grinding and the desire sensor is something synonymous with the older games. Sometimes the material you want can only be acquired by breaking a part that's hard to reach or has a really high damage threshold. It's part of the reason why clownsuits (mixing armor parts) was more common before world. mhw and by extension ib, made it really easy to get most sets and min-maxing the skills.
Hey Jay first became introduced to MH now he's become MH enlightened and understands the nuance of the old titles, truly a beautiful character arc.
Fascinating to watch, no?
That duck is one of my favorite monsters. And one if my favorite early armor sets in 3u.
The editing on these videos are quickly making your monster hunter content my favorite on the platform
One of us, one of us.
It makes me so happy that Jay “gets it”
I really love how you recognized the beauty of the deadly dance of monster hunter, and how satisfying it is, and how it is absent in some monsters of the newer games (which is better for new players, i agree).
Yeah qurupeco was actually my first wall on my first game, he was very hard for very similar reasons you struggled. I had a pretty sub par weapon at the time too, so I highly recommend focusing on upgrading your longsword, getting green sharpness is top priority. Another tip for future qurupeco fights. If you throw a sonic bomb at him while he is singing, he will completely stop and get momentarily stunned.
You are doing great in 3u so far, can't wait to see more!
Now only if you had your trusty switch axe, sword attacks wouldn’t have bounced off of qurupeco
also spirit slashes
That's legit what I use against until I have green sharpness.
Ah yes, praise the inherent mind's eye! One thing that's such a godsend on swaxe against early monsters in the old games!
I wasn't mad about the fishing, I was more confounded on how you got 3 golden fish to spawn without golden fish bait. the spawn chance for golden fish are so low it's almost like the game knew you where streaming and wanted to end the quest as soon as possible.
Desire sensor literally giving streamer privileges smh 😂
I like it when this monster hunter journal outro music is very different from other videos. it make MH sounds like a meme but a very special one to keep inside your heart.
Glad to hear that you're enjoying it.
Excited for Qurupeco high and G rank 👀
She also does Demon and Armor Flutes.
Her beak is basically a flute.
Um, excuse me. Its a bill, actually.
Missed your stream last week due to complications. I watched it the next day and man what a fun stream. Fishing only took me like 15 minutes tops, so I don't know what they're crying about.
Also, looking good out there Jay. Bashing your Long Swors like a hammer, yeah I've been there. That's why I played a lot of Gunlance in 3U and 4U, that wyvernfire and shelling helps with early thick armors.
Lastly I just want to give a shout out to the guy who gifted 100 subs. What a boss. I'm glad you have such a good community and I'm happy to be a part of it. Hopefully I'll see you tonight.
"Enjoy the Hunting Life! G!!!" -Instructor
Cannot wait for you to get to 4U watching these journals makes me want to go out and buy 3u for my Wii U… that was a fun sentence :)
You’re one of my favorite UA-camrs now. I can’t wait to see you beat all these monsters.
Just watched this stream, it was unbelievably infuriating watching you hit the armored bits of wings and think you couldn't hit the chest of Quru. Keep up the good work!
monster parts also have different % chance depending on the quest too, you can fight a Great Jaggi at 2* or at 4* and the 4* will have a higher chance of dropping a rare monster part from a part break and/or quest reward
So great to see Jay enjoying the Old World and properly meeting the mighty Peco, one of my favorite monsters. Never seen someone call it a duck. Really wish it would come back on the 5 gen!
Also the editing on this one is superb! And dont you think you can get away with tha Ultra Mineirinho Adventures at 1:03 Mr Editor ; )
Yo I love the editor, it's so funny the duck simps
Its great to watch your journey through one of my favorite Monster Hunter games! Just a little tip, your spirit combo (the R button combo) has built in mind's eye, so you never bounce when using it! You can also weave in an extra X button press in between every hit of the Spirit combo when the monster is vulnerable for maximum dps
Good to know!
Qurupeco is a harsh but enlightening sensei. Unlike jagras who's a punching bag.
Not that that is a strictly bad thing. Helping you learn your weapon and the deliberate combat, he just isnt too much of a challenge.
Your editing got really good. Made me chuckle a couple of times. Looking forward to the next entry!
Credit goes to the editor Raul who took over editing months ago :)
Jay finally learn why old Monster Hunter is still better than Iceborne/Rise
Fight monster for the first time → set an armor piece or weapon as an objective → hunt the monster again, but this time focus on body parts → learn the monster's attack slowly → come out victorious with new equipment
And weapons don't look like chicken wings!
Yes I'm still salty about the brachy dual blades :(
It has been a ton of fun so far watching you play the game I played for eight years, had been hoping for this letsplay ever since you started MH
Bad news: Longsword is all about dancing
Something that kind of helps the grinding problem is the food skill lucky cat. This skill boost either the rarity of rewards or the quantity, was never really sure about that.
Don't mix this food skill up with super luck cat, that one gives you more zenny at the end of your quest.
You can't get that skill until you unlock the drinks ingredient in the game though, which doesn't happen until high rank. Rare drops are so much more important in this game that you will need it more then.
35 minutes is a true hunt
I discovered you like a week ago and this series of 3U is something i honestly activly waitong for cant wait for another one.
New entry drops every Thursday!
it's even more crystal clear when you need some popo tongue
Please my man, pay attention to all dialogue that the guild girl that give the quests has, I swear Aisha is the best part of this game
Just like Sophia in 4u
I think the only reason why people say the shakas are better than the palico is because they can replace some of your hunting items that you generally carry, like paint balls and pitfall traps by becoming living versions of those items themselves, thus freeing up space in your inventory for whatever else.
I'm so happy to see that newcomers are trying out the older games and appreciating them. Monster Hunter was so underrated for so long.
It was
My my, how the turntables uh...from not wanting to play monster hunter at all to understanding the appeal of classic monster hunter. You've become one of us.
If you want to play the game a certain way, don’t let the chat bother you! We just want to make sure you enjoy it, and were scared that the fishing would put you off if it ended up taking 20 minutes or more. Excited for the next stream!
I remember that goldfish quest when the game came out, literally spent the entire hour catching random crap and failed, tried again and passed, 2 hrs of my life was spent on fishing so I envy Jay here
I liked rise but you're totally right that the focus of the more dynamic combat takes away a bit of the charm of the deliberate, 'clunky' combat pace of classic MH.
I still play rise when i'm feeling for a hunt, but it really is on the easy side.
some people say the same about world/iceborne, but I personally would defend its' difficulty as being the sweet spot between accessible and challenging. even when I thought I got good at world, the iceborne update consistently upped the challenge and it was a satisfying experience.
this editing is so improving, i love it
The grind is your practice, as well as Moga. Moga is where you truly learn to dance with dragons. Don't short sell Chacha, although Kayamba is better IMHO, he's only started. Wait till he grows. Feed him some meat. You're doing so well so far. It is fascinating to watch someone with some experience in the other games learn 3u. It's infinitely easier than going in blind. Thanks for the opportunity. Tip for today, when you go to gather things you need, choose a few to gather and collect them to the max . More efficient than getting one of this or that when you can come back in a few minutes with ten bones and ten honey and ten blue mushrooms. Also, nulberries are money makers in the farm, once you've stocked up on stuff you need for potions and whatnot.
The grind for rare materials is crazy, especially in G rank where you can only do hub quests. That was one of the things that they specifically fixed in World with all the tickets and higher drop rates.
It was super satisfying though to get the drop you needed after multiple tries.
Classy is hometown and will always be loved, but Cha-Cha can be a beast after you start collecting masks for him.
seeing someone play the old games for the first time always brings a twinkle in my eye
After doing my second attempt for a play through through dark souls 3 (quit first time due to putting a lot into various stats before learning what any of them fully do) while starting dark souls 2, I think back at my time in iceborne and rise up to fatalis (iceborne) and valstrax (rise) and I have to say I love the monsters the most who are the most like dark souls where they aren’t “spamming” but they’re attacking combos in a Sequence that feels like a dance where you trade the action of parrry/dodge with attack countless times until the monster is dead.
For me, Qurupeco is quite adorable. After using one of its attacks, the one where to claps. He will look at his "hands" for a short moment like wondering how he did that. And I used to have him live so that he can call for help in order to get better materials. Wait till you see the helicopter
Jason, keep playing the game the way you want to, never change, never compromise
One of the things I wanted to say was for the targeting system, you’re still using the camera manually, old world targeting was different. You’ll have to tap the target symbol on the game pad, and then periodically tap the left bumper (or left trigger, i don’t remember, I played on a 3DS) to target the monster, so you don’t have to take your fingers off of the attack buttons.
Don't forget to do the cursed set challenge run.
Cursed Set is a set with only negative skills. MH3U is, as far as I'm told, the best game for that.
Older games definitely appeal more to patient/methodical hunters who basically play defensively, and the newer games appeal more to aggressive hunters that enjoy being constantly on offense
I feel so bad Jay will never get to visit Loc Lac, the greatest hunting city in the whole series, maybe even the last.
I have a feeling there's a lot of people here who feel the same way, but the memories and friends I made there will stay with me forever ^^
re the lower drop quantities: Have fun hunting Lagiacrus like 50 times because its armor kicks ass but it requires an item with a reward rate between 3% and 6%!
man, sharpness is definitely a big priority when you first start out in any of the older games. I have PTSD of not bringing enough whetstones with me a couple times, my lord is it genuinely painful. doesn't make things more 'difficult' but it sure does make that hunt timer go , i didn't see the stream but I have no doubts this is the reason your peco hunt took so long. IMO not enough people mention the massive difference between yellow and green sharpness, it's ridiculous
The reason the onion mask bois are better than palicos is because they are buff as all hell in 3U for some reason. They get some upgrade system later in the game where you can make them so strong they can break monster parts and practically carry hunts for you stupidly easily, not to mention the legendary mask, which makes it so that monsters only target them 70% of the time while taking their own strength even further beyond.
You talking about the differences in combat between 3U and World/Rise is so validating, you have no idea. While yes, to those of us that started with older games this is common knowledge, it’s not easy to articulate to players that have only played World/Rise and think that the only difference in combat is the lack of “clunkiness”. It’s hard to explain to them that that “clunkiness” is intentional, and forces a more methodical, purposeful playstyle. It doesn’t mean that one form of gameplay is better than the other, just that they *are* different. It was really cool to see you catch that so quickly.
That intentional gameplay is what I and many others miss so much from old gen MH. Getting hit is always punishing and the overall combat is much more deliberate, so you really have to pay attention to what the monster is doing if you want to fight effectively. There's less emphasis on doing combos and flashy special moves. It's all fundamentals. I know that style isn't for everyone, but it's one of the things that really makes Monster Hunter unique as an action RPG.
Using item load outside will instantly sort your inventory with the stuff you set it to have, and put anything you have that you don't need back in the box, such a time save btw
Quropeco is one of those monsters where I just really want them brought back, summoning other monsters was always so much fun :P
You’re going to love crimson qurupeco.
After all that build up from chat, having that dang cat rob you of your fish destroyed me it was so funny.
Cannot wait for his impressions on his first underwater combat.
The Adventure continues!
Old man voice 0:25
HR Quropeko gave me one of my best MH memories.
It's good that you haven't completely been turned off by the inventory management and clunky UI. If you can get past that you're probably going to have a good time.
Does anyone actually know about what the respawn rate on Goldenfish is? I have never had an issue with any golden fish quest. Are people like, abandoning the quest if none spawn? All you have to do is run back and forth between zones and it respawns all 5 fish. Just seems like impatient or not understanding how the mechanics work.
As someone who just finished crafting the final boss armour for 3U, yeah it is very stingy with monster materials.
This is why people still come back to old world. You can't just mash buttons and also learning the attacks of the monsters are so fun.
I still think being deliberate is still weapon dependent. If you're playing Duel blades you don't get as methodological as say you would have to with a Hunting Horn. Once you have a handle on what you're doing it becomes second nature regardless of your weapon choice.
We live in a timeline where Jay started off thinking Rise is slow and clunky, to thinking Rise is too fast.
Hell yeah, you do you!
Oh yeah, if your items ever get stolen and the cat escapes, you can still get your items back (I think the Flooded Forest is the only exception here...?). Each map has a Melynx spot somewhere where you can gather your stolen items back.
the edits are so good
Ah. He tied world fatalis to old world combat.
Ive become a proud papa. Im so happy
Wait till the bird calls its BIGGER friends to the table...editor, frame his face for an emote, it will be the best!
Stubborn Hey Jey can stick around. You go fish if you want too! Ignore Twitch chat!!
Yup. The old grind. By the time I got zinogre sns and low rank armor set in 4u, I had him killed 7 times and captured 5 times. On the bright side - I knew his moveset so good that I could fight him without even using any potions.
I got so mad when he finished the golden fish quest in 10 minutes, every time I do this quest it takes at least 30 minutes. Now thats streamer luck.
With 3U and other older games, you really have to break a lot of parts and also capture to get many rewards. Even then you often have to hunt something 10 or more times to complete an armor set if it requires rare materials.
The older style and feel of gameplay are exactly why I didn't put much time into World. The further back you go, the slower paced it gets. In monster hunter one most monsters waste your time more often than actively engaging you. Rathalos will just fly around far out of range for the vast majority of his hunt and keep switching areas.
Also 3U was definitely the days back when that capturing, gives you more rewards than killing the monsters.
never. capturing has never given more rewards. in fact, until world, it has always given you less rewards because you got 2 rewards instead of 3 carves.
capturing is only good when you need specific rewards. it changes the percentages you will get certain items.
Capturing is only really good if you're going for the rare drop because most of them in this game don't drop from body carves. Tldr: always capture Raths and Lagia. You will have such a harder time getting rare drops
@@adsventuresome7511 It also heavily depends on what monster you're fighting. For example you can carve Zinogre Jaspers/Skymeralds and while I don't remember the exact percentage comparison, I'm pretty sure the extra carves make slaying more/just as favorable. And then you have the 4 carve monsters which is even more skewed towards slaying.
He fishes. Yeah! He fishes! My brother, you fish!
Can’t wait for you to fight Agnaktor, Gigginox, and Lagiacrus.
I never got a chance to finish this video unfortunately. Halfway through I started hearing this weird goose in the distance and I just know I gotta get out there and ruin someone's day for it. If I survive I promise I'll come back and finish the video.
The duck was my very first roadblock I hated him SO MUCH
You are absolutely correct about Rise. Don't worry about criticizing it
5:57 "Have shit framedata" ... Was there supposed to be an I before Have?
Wait until later what he summon
Thank you for reminding me I need to work on mh3
I'm still hoping you take on a Qurupeco in Moga Forest or in a Multiplayer hunt.
You didn't have the true Qurupeco experience yet.
If you gear up too much before doing this, you'll miss out on a memorable battle.
Huh, never thought of Curupeco as a DUCK!! 🤣
That aside, I completely understand the your topic of the difference between OG MH and World/Rise. I started replaying MH Freedom Unite using a Vita, and recently fought a TIGREX! WHAT A HUMBLING EXPERIENCE!!!
Failed the mission 6 TIMES!! And it was a NORMAL FIGHT!! Not High Rank, not Master, NORMAL!!
Eventually, I got my myself up, properly replan my strategies, and did it! I beat this TIGREX!! These games demand one thing over everything else, TO GET GUD AND EARN YOUR SKILLS!!! And I believe it’s something that got lost a little with World/Rise.