For anyone going to remove the drive shaft for any reason, careful using a 2” wrench. Proper size is 50mm and mine was so tight that i needed a 3’ pipe over the wrench just to loosen the red threadlocker. A 2” wrench (50.8mm) would’ve stripped the nut on my diff easily
With this video I was able to get my E92 335is open diff out and install my wavetrac LSD. This is a great tutorial! The 50mm nut loosening damn near required my full strength, this was a jack stand job so I think I wedged my knee under the wrench to break it loose. Also the final dropping of the pumpkin was super frustrating. Got it done though. Thanks.
After thrying to find a video on the replacement or at least the removal of the rear driveshaft on a 335XI I realized your video on your LSD swap has the info I need. That rear nut that is a 2 inch nut is the one I needed to know about. Thank you again for your great videos!
I agree with MD. Your car is twin to mine... for now but the other channels are so full of BS. I need to view all your published videos because I am up to my ass in parts to install to make this car untouchable. Thanks for your down to earth explanations too
my racingdiffs kit is getting installed today, i might even make it out to the track tonight if its all good to see if my times have improved, will post results ! Great video
Nice! You'll feel a big difference right off the bat, I can dip into the throttle twice as hard before it'll break traction under normal driving. It feels like the more you push it the better it works. I made a quick right hand turn this morning in the rain and I dipped pretty hard into the throttle and my traction control light didn't even flicker. Huge difference so far. Good luck!
I tune in for the lsd swap. But you do such a good job on this channel ,I wish I had a BMW . ... I won't give up my Datsun Z but I would not mind getting a bimmer just to upgrade.
Where did you get the LSD diff is that from an M3, a rebuild, or is just a brand new purchase? Also why did you do the yolk nut instead of the driveline bolts? Need to swap a diff and thinking of going LSD while im there, Thanks!
You might think that if he can turn it by hand it's not going to do much, but the taper on the side gears and spider gears puts mechanical pressure on the clutches when power is applied. The clutches are quite small so it's not going to be as good as a real LSD.
This is a great video, thanks! I've heard that its a bugger sometimes to get the driveshaft (from the gearbox) back in the diff? This part is missed on your assembly, looks like you got it straight in there, just wondering if you had any problems here. Thanks again.
Thank you for this, this is the best vid out there on this job. Do any of the bolts and bits need to be replaced with new ones? I think the axle bolts are aluminum
Torque specs big 50mm nut to driveshaft.... 85nm/ 62 ft lbs.... blue lock tight on splines (see note below using 2" crowfoot wrench) Rear diff bushing... 21mm back bolt.... 121 ft lbs torque spec Front diff bushings bolts... 73 ft lbs 18mm exhaust hangars, just tight. Axle bolts... 52 ft lbs... blue locktight gear oil through fill hole and torque to 44.3 lb-ft with 14 mm male hex. Note: 50mm nut torque spec using 2" crawfoot wrench: The torque wrench was 15” long from center of wrench to center of hand grip. Crow’s foot has an extra 2.25”. the torque will be 15% high or 72.1 lb-ft. The point of the formula is I set the torque wrench at 54 lb-ft to get an actual of 62 lb-ft. Thank you Moosa aka Vehicular DIY for another amazing video! Just got quoted $1200 to install my new Wavetrac LSD... instead did it myself and all I spent was $15 for the Sunex crowfoot wrench and optional but I got a $130 trans lift from Harbor Freight.
I bought a e90 m3 rear differential I thought this video would be the same but you are good enough to build your own!. I was looking for what things I would need for a install on my e90 335i could you help with that?
So I took out my driveshaft with the diff how can I removed it ? I do have a 2”.. but the drive shaft rotates what should I do to prevent it from turning?
Hi , I dont really know much about the differential types but I feel difference in the behavior of mine car now. I had plenty BMWs like e46 , e39 , e90,e60,e66 and now again I have my 07` 330xi M sport. I paid the XDelete software to flash my car to RWD only , but when I switch the DCS off and try drifting , the car does not slip like non of my previous BMW mentioned above. What is the difference ? WHat should I do to get it slipping day car.
I'm confused about the 50mm nut. Are the diffs different by year or engine? I ask bc I'm looking to buy one that needs to be towed and I'm hoping to disconnect the propshaft so that I can use a dolly to tow. I was under the impression that these use E Torx bolts.
How does the insert nut (the driveshaft nut) actually connect to the Diff Input Shaft? How does the spline on the Diff input shaft interface to the drive shaft. On M3, there are big flange but on this, it seems like the "insert nut" is the only thing that connects the driveshaft and the spline. Any idea what the torque spec on that insert nut? I'm replacing my pinion seal, so I would have to do this first.
step 1 - safety....rent a lift, wear gloves & eye protection when working underneath a vehicle. Done with the days when the bottom of the undercarriage is in my face.
Did you do the rear differential bushings also?. I appreciate the video as I'm going to be doing my bushings since mine are toast and starting to push out kinda scary.
Hey Vehicular DIY awesome video ive been using your videos for a while when it comes to working on my 335i Im currently doing this and Im about to refit the diff but im struggling especially on my own, in your video you skipped to where it was already bolted any tips on lining up the diff to the proshaft with the exhaust only dropped like in your video? ive had the diff fall twice now and its killing my back lol HIH @vehecular DIY
I have a 06 330i sport I jack up one rear wheel off the ground get in the car put it in gear ( auto) and I wants to jump off the jack like it’s a possi it’s no m3 just a sport package
I'm looking forward to your follow up video. I have just installed mine and am not happy with it. It is only possible to lock in a straight line some of the time. A donut is not possible at all as it completely opens as soon as you start turning. Even if you get the wheels spinning first. Very disappointed
My follow up video will be pretty soon. I'm coding out the electronic diff locker in the DSC and the brake overheat protections as well. I haven't done any extensive testing yet but I've felt the DSC interfere which could be throwing everything off. What year is your car? Perhaps the E-diff is stepping in and not allowing the LSD to function as intended. I'm hoping that overall in a straight line it locks consistently. I plan to test that by seeing if I get consistent 60ft at the track hopefully in the sub 2 second mark. With the open diff I was all over the place, 2.3 to 2.6. If you were lucky and caught a good bit of track then the right wheel would spin less but the DSC was working halfway down the track.
@@VehicularDIY mines an 03 330d so no electrics to deal with. I don't think the unit is up to the job for such a heavy car. I'm sure it will be quicker from a standstill but not for what I had in mind
@@VehicularDIY that's exactly what I heard will happen. BMW only put LSD on M3, M5, M6 etc. Other models have issues with LSD as the vehicle is calibrated with open diff.
To be able to put power down evenly. Even a 330i could benefit. These cars have an E-Diff so the computer tries to use the ABS pump to help avoid one wheel getting too much power but it doesn't work that well IMO.
@@VehicularDIY No "E-diff(erential)s" on any E9x or earlier. First Electronically controlled differential clutches are all on subsequent F series and G series M models and now also the new G20 if specified (or a M340i(x) or the new Z4 S Drive M40i. An ABS controlled brake actuation is most definitely not a electronically controlled differential in any way when each is activated.
Was this kit only available for automatics? If so, if doing this to an auto diff and install in a manual car, would it fit? I know the gearing will be off, but with a high HP car, would it matter?
Someone said this might cause issue with car DSC like premature brake wear etc.. As cars DSC is calibrated for the single wheel spinner. Is it causing you any grief?
Would anyone know if the bmw 240i manual car M performance lsd differential with the 3.23 fit the e8x e9x chassis if swapping only the rear cover and axle flanges????
Vehicular DIY thanks for the reply. I started to hammer mine in and it seemed too tight so I stopped and decided to grind about a penny’s width off the wrench today. Only other option is to remove the entire shaft and I don’t want to go that route without the tools. Are you happy with your LSD swap. I might want to do the same with my spare diff.
Vehicular DIY also. There seems to be 2 versions of the wrench you used - 2 different model numbers. The model with the “A” is a bit thicker and doesn’t fit.
Quick question, I picked up the M factory LSD differential and housing and M factory axles. Noticed that each axle is about a 1/2 “ and give or take 1/4” shorter than the stock axle shaft. Since I shipped the factory differential housing on the core deposit I didn’t measure the width of the Stock differential housing. Can you give insight on this issue
The first thing that comes to mind is the axle might be overall shorter but are designed to stretch within the cv joints a bit when you tighten down the axle nut. I'd definitely reach out to M Factory and ask them to confirm, if you put in shorter axles it can cause a lot of problems if they happened to send you the wrong ones.
@@VehicularDIY I purchased the MFactory LSD carrier and Axles from Top Gear Solutions and have sent this inquiry to them. I am thinking maybe the carrier is wider than the stock housing...if so, problem solved!!! I too thought there may be longer play within the cv joints. I'll let you know
For anyone going to remove the drive shaft for any reason, careful using a 2” wrench. Proper size is 50mm and mine was so tight that i needed a 3’ pipe over the wrench just to loosen the red threadlocker. A 2” wrench (50.8mm) would’ve stripped the nut on my diff easily
Bruh your channel needs more attention the quality of the content is amazing 12/10
Bruh, where yat? or from? that's a south Louisiana original word
@@fjdiesi which word tho? Im from texas lol
@@eggsnbacon4283 "bruh" I use it all the time when I am with the guys or at the gym ... its the slang for "bro" which sounds shitty
Frankie Diesi we use that word over here in the bay. SF Cali to be exact.
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With this video I was able to get my E92 335is open diff out and install my wavetrac LSD. This is a great tutorial! The 50mm nut loosening damn near required my full strength, this was a jack stand job so I think I wedged my knee under the wrench to break it loose. Also the final dropping of the pumpkin was super frustrating. Got it done though.
Thanks.
Only video on youtube showing this job, thank you brother
After thrying to find a video on the replacement or at least the removal of the rear driveshaft on a 335XI I realized your video on your LSD swap has the info I need. That rear nut that is a 2 inch nut is the one I needed to know about. Thank you again for your great videos!
50mm exactly. 2in is 50.8mm can strip it. 😊
I agree with MD. Your car is twin to mine... for now but the other channels are so full of BS. I need to view all your published videos because I am up to my ass in parts to install to make this car untouchable. Thanks for your down to earth explanations too
Sweet! Looking forward to track times. Great video
Dude this is awesome. Can't wait to see the long term effects of this.
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This really helped as I wasn't sure which way to turn as it stayed very hard for so long haha 😁👍
Great video, man. Good luck to you. Getting stuck in Houston mud during hurricane season shouldn't be that much of a problem from now on.
my racingdiffs kit is getting installed today, i might even make it out to the track tonight if its all good to see if my times have improved, will post results ! Great video
Nice! You'll feel a big difference right off the bat, I can dip into the throttle twice as hard before it'll break traction under normal driving. It feels like the more you push it the better it works. I made a quick right hand turn this morning in the rain and I dipped pretty hard into the throttle and my traction control light didn't even flicker. Huge difference so far. Good luck!
Probable will take the exhaust off when I do it
Super helpful man, I appreciate you
But it was hard 😂
I tune in for the lsd swap. But you do such a good job on this channel ,I wish I had a BMW . ...
I won't give up my Datsun Z but I would not mind getting a bimmer just to upgrade.
Thanks, don't even own a BMW any more but this is cool as I plan to do it on my Toyota.
THANK YOU MY MAN, your videos have helped me so much especially this one, only video out there for this installation
This channel is Amazing. Thank You Bimmer God
Oh man, dis is my kinda guy who reminds me of myself, he did a rearend swap n sandles ! 👏👌👍😁😉😎
You should totally do a bmw e9X m3 full rear end swap. Would really tighten up things.
Good video man! A diff bolt recently broke on my M3 and this video will be very helpfull. Thanks!
i'm curious to see by how much will the quarter miles improve. Great work bud
Where did you get the LSD diff is that from an M3, a rebuild, or is just a brand new purchase? Also why did you do the yolk nut instead of the driveline bolts? Need to swap a diff and thinking of going LSD while im there, Thanks!
You might think that if he can turn it by hand it's not going to do much, but the taper on the side gears and spider gears puts mechanical pressure on the clutches when power is applied. The clutches are quite small so it's not going to be as good as a real LSD.
This is a great video, thanks! I've heard that its a bugger sometimes to get the driveshaft (from the gearbox) back in the diff? This part is missed on your assembly, looks like you got it straight in there, just wondering if you had any problems here. Thanks again.
Thank you for this, this is the best vid out there on this job. Do any of the bolts and bits need to be replaced with new ones? I think the axle bolts are aluminum
What driveshaft is required? I have a at 09 335 and want to do this
Where did you get LSD, is it from an M3?
You can send it to a company and they change the inside for ya :)
Great video. Appreciate the Info.
Excellent presentation ! Thanks !!
Good info here, looks like I need to swap my dif, starting to make a lot of noise. e91, 6 speed, M Sport.
Torque specs
big 50mm nut to driveshaft.... 85nm/ 62 ft lbs.... blue lock tight on splines (see note below using 2" crowfoot wrench)
Rear diff bushing... 21mm back bolt.... 121 ft lbs torque spec
Front diff bushings bolts... 73 ft lbs
18mm exhaust hangars, just tight.
Axle bolts... 52 ft lbs... blue locktight
gear oil through fill hole and torque to 44.3 lb-ft with 14 mm male hex.
Note: 50mm nut torque spec using 2" crawfoot wrench: The torque wrench was 15” long from center of wrench to center of hand grip. Crow’s foot has an extra 2.25”. the torque will be 15% high or 72.1 lb-ft. The point of the formula is I set the torque wrench at 54 lb-ft to get an actual of 62 lb-ft.
Thank you Moosa aka Vehicular DIY for another amazing video! Just got quoted $1200 to install my new Wavetrac LSD... instead did it myself and all I spent was $15 for the Sunex crowfoot wrench and optional but I got a $130 trans lift from Harbor Freight.
Any reason this LSD shouldn't work on an xDrive car?
Love your stuff bro. What floor jack is that?
u gotta put a playlist or something in desc
I bought a e90 m3 rear differential I thought this video would be the same but you are good enough to build your own!. I was looking for what things I would need for a install on my e90 335i could you help with that?
Did you get round to a follow up in terms of performance?
Appreciate the videos so far 👊
I just bought a set. Thank you for your video. Do you hear any weird noise from the diff?
For the new diff, do you need to apply any lube at the pinion gear that mates with the driveshaft? If so, what kind?
Is it just a straight swap for the Manuel as well?
just wondering did you make a review video of after the LSD conversion diff was installed how did it work out for you ??
were you rebuilding a mechatronics?
not the valve body eletronics
Did you reuse the axle bolts?
where can i get the kit?
Great progress!
dude very nice job recently I bought a bmw f20 116i and i'm looking for a diff with 100% lock do you have any suggestions ?
So I took out my driveshaft with the diff how can I removed it ? I do have a 2”.. but the drive shaft rotates what should I do to prevent it from turning?
Where can I find this LSD? Have a 135i that needs it. Awesome video
Did you have to shave down the crowfoot tool in order for it to be thin enough to use?
is it the same for a 335i rwd manual? where’d you get the diff from
how's that holding up?
this works for small size diff but does it work on the large?
Great informative video 👍
Nice vid👍 I'm gonna give it a go, thankyou 😉
How did you program it ?
I am doing the same job for f25, it's really tough to unlock the 50mm shaft nut!
Does the ration number important ? I have a e92 w 3.73 ration but it went out and I need a new one
Does the bmw 335d have a welded dif stock?
Awesome skill set
Hi , I dont really know much about the differential types but I feel difference in the behavior of mine car now. I had plenty BMWs like e46 , e39 , e90,e60,e66 and now again I have my 07` 330xi M sport. I paid the XDelete software to flash my car to RWD only , but when I switch the DCS off and try drifting , the car does not slip like non of my previous BMW mentioned above. What is the difference ? WHat should I do to get it slipping day car.
hey so if i have a wavetrac lsd is the install pretty much the same? dumb question, but just checking
did you use all new bolts? I'm in the process of installing my lsd
IDTx how long did it take you to change your diff?
LSD from which car ?
I'm confused about the 50mm nut. Are the diffs different by year or engine? I ask bc I'm looking to buy one that needs to be towed and I'm hoping to disconnect the propshaft so that I can use a dolly to tow. I was under the impression that these use E Torx bolts.
How does the insert nut (the driveshaft nut) actually connect to the Diff Input Shaft? How does the spline on the Diff input shaft interface to the drive shaft. On M3, there are big flange but on this, it seems like the "insert nut" is the only thing that connects the driveshaft and the spline. Any idea what the torque spec on that insert nut? I'm replacing my pinion seal, so I would have to do this first.
Would this be a similar process for xdrive models
I bought the same 2 inch crows foot but it doesn’t look like a perfect fit to that nut did you have issues with it stripping? Thx!
step 1 - safety....rent a lift, wear gloves & eye protection when working underneath a vehicle. Done with the days when the bottom of the undercarriage is in my face.
Rent a lift from where ?
Where did you buy diff from ?
How many hours would take to do this slowly?
I wanna install one in my clk.
Did you do the rear differential bushings also?. I appreciate the video as I'm going to be doing my bushings since mine are toast and starting to push out kinda scary.
I didn't as mine were still in decent shape.
why not unscrew the hardy? might be easier
I bought a spare diff to do this to after seeing your install video. Please keep us updated on how it holds up as I'll be ordering it soon
Hey Vehicular DIY awesome video ive been using your videos for a while when it comes to working on my 335i Im currently doing this and Im about to refit the diff but im struggling especially on my own, in your video you skipped to where it was already bolted any tips on lining up the diff to the proshaft with the exhaust only dropped like in your video? ive had the diff fall twice now and its killing my back lol HIH @vehecular DIY
Do you have any lsd laying around
I'm looking for a LSD for my e91 325i where did you get this coverted
Good video brotha!! ✌️💯
How old was this BMW while making this movie?
I have a 06 330i sport I jack up one rear wheel off the ground get in the car put it in gear ( auto) and I wants to jump off the jack like it’s a possi it’s no m3 just a sport package
Can wait to see this
Nice job 👍
would this be similar or the same to a rear differential replacement on a bmw f30? if not what is different? Would it be harder or easier? thanks
What are the torq specs for the diff cover bolts? I heard it’s 65nm
What is this racing diff set like? im in the market for an lsd, thanks
where do you buy this LSD kit?
Where can I buy this lsd???
I'm looking forward to your follow up video. I have just installed mine and am not happy with it. It is only possible to lock in a straight line some of the time. A donut is not possible at all as it completely opens as soon as you start turning. Even if you get the wheels spinning first. Very disappointed
My follow up video will be pretty soon. I'm coding out the electronic diff locker in the DSC and the brake overheat protections as well. I haven't done any extensive testing yet but I've felt the DSC interfere which could be throwing everything off. What year is your car? Perhaps the E-diff is stepping in and not allowing the LSD to function as intended. I'm hoping that overall in a straight line it locks consistently. I plan to test that by seeing if I get consistent 60ft at the track hopefully in the sub 2 second mark. With the open diff I was all over the place, 2.3 to 2.6. If you were lucky and caught a good bit of track then the right wheel would spin less but the DSC was working halfway down the track.
@@VehicularDIY mines an 03 330d so no electrics to deal with. I don't think the unit is up to the job for such a heavy car. I'm sure it will be quicker from a standstill but not for what I had in mind
@@VehicularDIY that's exactly what I heard will happen.
BMW only put LSD on M3, M5, M6 etc.
Other models have issues with LSD as the vehicle is calibrated with open diff.
Were can I get one of this? For my 2010 335i lci e90?
arent their different sizes for the driveshaft like 19 mm difference
Would this work on n54 335ix with xDelete ?
What kind of E90 had differential? I am planning to buy a 330i E90, does it have differental?
They all have open differentials besides the M3.
@@VehicularDIY why it's a good idea to change an open to LSD differential in a real case?
To be able to put power down evenly. Even a 330i could benefit. These cars have an E-Diff so the computer tries to use the ABS pump to help avoid one wheel getting too much power but it doesn't work that well IMO.
@@VehicularDIY No "E-diff(erential)s" on any E9x or earlier. First Electronically controlled differential clutches are all on subsequent F series and G series M models and now also the new G20 if specified (or a M340i(x) or the new Z4 S Drive M40i.
An ABS controlled brake actuation is most definitely not a electronically controlled differential in any way when each is activated.
@@maxnix346 the traction control still uses the abs pump to help send power to the non spinning wheel by slowing the "slipping" wheel.
good video, thank you
What year is your e90? I heard BMW started welding the differentials after 2007
his is an 08
Was this kit only available for automatics? If so, if doing this to an auto diff and install in a manual car, would it fit? I know the gearing will be off, but with a high HP car, would it matter?
They have kit for manual trans. as well. But if you have welded crown it will be pita. to find who will cut it and weld back together.
@@sharklt1 Thanks! I think the really early build 335i's had a bolt in I believe, but they are really hard to find.
Should have removed the exhaust in the first place. Also need to remove exhaust to FILL center Diff fluid in Xdrive AWD
Someone said this might cause issue with car DSC like premature brake wear etc..
As cars DSC is calibrated for the single wheel spinner.
Is it causing you any grief?
Just turn off dsc, fully. Hold down the trc control button for 15 seconds or until a triangle with a light comes on.
Would anyone know if the bmw 240i manual car M performance lsd differential with the 3.23 fit the e8x e9x chassis if swapping only the rear cover and axle flanges????
Did your 2in crow foot fit in the gap between the shaft and the diff? Mine is too thick.
It does fit but it's a tight fit, you have to put some pressure to make it fit.
Vehicular DIY thanks for the reply. I started to hammer mine in and it seemed too tight so I stopped and decided to grind about a penny’s width off the wrench today. Only other option is to remove the entire shaft and I don’t want to go that route without the tools. Are you happy with your LSD swap. I might want to do the same with my spare diff.
Vehicular DIY also. There seems to be 2 versions of the wrench you used - 2 different model numbers. The model with the “A” is a bit thicker and doesn’t fit.
Quick question, I picked up the M factory LSD differential and housing and M factory axles. Noticed that each axle is about a 1/2 “ and give or take 1/4” shorter than the stock axle shaft. Since I shipped the factory differential housing on the core deposit I didn’t measure the width of the Stock differential housing. Can you give insight on this issue
It could be possible that you had a 215mm pumpkin and they gave you a 188mm. What year is your car?
The first thing that comes to mind is the axle might be overall shorter but are designed to stretch within the cv joints a bit when you tighten down the axle nut. I'd definitely reach out to M Factory and ask them to confirm, if you put in shorter axles it can cause a lot of problems if they happened to send you the wrong ones.
@@dondre7291 I will go measure 2008 335i N54 E90 base 4dr sedan twin turbo
@@VehicularDIY I purchased the MFactory LSD carrier and Axles from Top Gear Solutions and have sent this inquiry to them. I am thinking maybe the carrier is wider than the stock housing...if so, problem solved!!! I too thought there may be longer play within the cv joints. I'll let you know
Where u can do that??