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Everything Wrong With Puella Magi Madoka Magica: Eternal
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- Опубліковано 27 бер 2017
- If you thought the first one was too nitpicky, this one's really gonna throw you for a loop!
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Sayaka is a mermaid because her story is the Little Mermaid. She gives everything for a boy, but doesn't get him, losing him to another girl, and ending up dying. :^>
Кιуσмι νιятυσѕσ where’s Sebastian in all of this?
@@tatarsauce6314 under the seeeaaaaa
@@tatarsauce6314 kyoko is Sebastian lol
You know, until Disney comes along and cleans up that dark mess. And gives it a "happily ever after" ending.
@@Witch_MAHO the only way Disney is gonna fix THIS hot mess, is with fire
My girlfriend was turned into a God by a space ferret
That's rough buddy
Fucking zuko! XD
I saw a meme like this.
Soka:my girlfriend turned into the moon.
Homora: my girlfriend turned into a concept.
I see what u did there
Kyubullshit and Kyubitch are my new favorite words
I don't think the last sin counts since the whole point of everyone saying "there's no happy ending" was just so Madoka could prove them wrong by forcefully creating a happy ending.
She's the typical "Gonna get that happy ending, damnit, no matter how much reality bending she has to do first". Another example of this is Emma from The Promised Neverland.
1:02 To find potential magical girls? Since teleport wouldn't help you to find them...
8:09 It's literal. The witch came from Sayaka's SOUL gem (aka Grief Seed). This witch is Sayaka's distorted soul, so it wouldn't be weird if she unconsciously stored her memories there. Homura explained the feeling of being a witch in the Rebellion as "can't remember anything but regret and glimmers of light", so it's possibly Sayaka's memories are still there, but she's overwhelmed by hatred.
11:00 *cough* Social anxiety, low self-esteem, heart problems *cough*
11:03 It's still alive there, or probably that girl didn't make a contract/didn't become a witch/... (each timeline has minor differences)
12:09 Sayaka probably didn't make a contract in that timeline. Mami didn't die too early, so Kyoko couldn't intervene.
13:46 She's too emotional damaged to do that, so she's just crying and calling herself an idiot instead. Madoka still believed in hope, so she could still feel the pain.
14:34 Each timeline has its own (minor) differences, Sayaka's mentality in this timeline isn't an exception. Madoka wasn't her best friend? Mami was alive? Kyosuke played piano instead of violin? Hitomi cheated on Sayaka without giving her a chance? Or did she end up with an unhappy relationship with Kyosuke? No one knows.
16:15 Maybe they did have more than 1 Grief seed but ended up using all of it in the battle? Also, the last Grief seed was Sayaka's, so Madoka probably kept it really carefully.
16:30 In the sub version, she said "Homura-chan, you SAID you can go back in time, right?"
16:36 Homura didn't just exactly time (because it's technically impossible, the grandfather paradox), but went to a new timeline instead. This Madoka will still exist and destroy things in that timeline.
19:04 Considering Homura's time leaps made Madoka more powerful because it revolved around her, it could also boost Walpurgisnacht since the time leaps also revolved around it. So...
19:21 Madoka just became a magical girl, she wouldn't know how to control her tremendous magic right away. She probably took more than needed, ended up using all of her power in the first shot.
20:01 There's many of them hiding anywhere, looking for new magical girls.
22:52 What if some of them wished things like "End WW2" or "Someone invents a thing that can ______" or "Make ______ the president of ______". That would certainly leads to civilization.
25:20 Well... magic? Or some kind of futuristic device that allows you to display your memories? Or you're probably right, it's in her head.
27:31 Their bodies are like weapons now, and when your weapon got stuck and you couldn't use it anymore, and there was some giant bitch attacking , it's a real problem.
28:02 She just explained the reason earlier in despair.
28:10 Yes she is. She's the reason why this timeline existed (and this Madoka existed).
28:37 She could've done that, but she still has to become a magical girl. So if Incubators never came to Earth and there's a magical girl on Earth, wouldn't it be a paradox? What if she got erased from existence or the timeline divided into 2 other timelines (one with magical girl Madoka and one with a happy life). Would creating a different, happy timeline help this timeline? No.
29:46 Through every timeline and every universes. Which means infinity and beyond.
30:20 She took away their corrupted souls (aka witches), not took away their wishes. So that shouldn't affect anything...
30:40 Why wasn't he? Madoka wished to destroy witches before they were born, which means "take away those girls' corrupted souls and bear the despair for them. So of course Madoka's soul gem would be filled with despair from countless magical girls.
30:53 It's not though, since Madoka killed it and rewrote the universe seconds later.
31:58 The Goddess designed her own outfit in seconds.
31:30 It is. Seeing your will to live and rewind the time for 12 years erased herself from existence is much worse than dying.
31:53 She's giving Sayaka the chance to erase the wish and become human again, Sayaka refused and her last wish was to see Kyosuke's performance, so Madoka tagged along. Also they're spirits now, they can wear uniforms if they want to.
32:06 It sounds like an ancient traditional story of magical girls... probably like some kind of religion.
32:13 Kyoko used to look up at Mami as her senior in another timeline but they broke up after Kyoko changed. Kyubey could approach Sayaka for many ways, other than that time at the mall.
32:23 In another spinoff manga, Madoka took away Homura's time power (probably to make sure she wouldn't rewind time again) and replaced it with something like "memory power" and her bow.
32:40 Children can see many things adults can't (like animals). Madoka to Tatsuya is like an imaginary friend, not a sister (he drew Madoka in her magical girl form). Tatsuya will forget about her soon, as he grew up.
33:30 Madoka hugged Homura for the last time, then they're apart. Homura returned to the real world while Madoka went to the concept world. And she erased witches, not magical girls. Because witches are gone, the girls need another thing to fight, and that would be the wraiths.
34:00 You could say it's a happy ending for everyone (because Madoka bears everyone's despair) except Madoka and Homura. Madoka spent eternity fighting witches and bearing despair of the every other magical girl and being forgotten by every one except Homura, because she made a wish to save others. Homura made a wish to save Madoka, so she spent 12 years looping and seeing Madoka's deaths and after that, living in a world where she's the only one who remembered Madoka and isolating herself (and in the end betrayed Madoka to become a demon).
(I just have too much free time...)
Can you don't Thanks. Though there are some more. Sayaka’s a mermaid because remember the story of the mermaid. Kyoko sees no point in living anymore and kills the despaired witch, that’s why she kills herself. In a game, Kyoko dies if she knows Sayaka died. And they didn’t point out the symbolism in the drawings, that’s one big sin, because it’s important. Actually, I might complete your commentary later ^^’
Baguette Of Revenge period
I agree with all of this
@@mihaitheromanian wth? Why did you get so aggressive all of the sudden?
There are so many bullshit sins in this video.
Oh yeah the rebellion plot is HARD to understand, because magical shenanigans makes for a horrible plot-device, who knew?
So basically, here's the rules of Rebellion set by Madoka:
1. All Magical Girls who fell into despair (Became witches) were sent into the Magical Girl Valhalla, where they watched over Causality.
2. All Magical Girls who believed in hope were stripped off of their Magical Girl power and became normal girls that will continue on with their lives as if becoming a Magical Girl never happened.
3. This is all only happening in one dimension. So witches can still be made in a closed-off pocket dimensions.
4. Yes, rule number 2 contradicts rule number 1 because plot, that's a sin.
So the plot is:
1. Kyubey wants to make Homura a witch by sending her to a pocket dimension that doesn't adhere to Madoka's rules.
2. The end has Homura basically taking Madoka back into the past using her power to split apart Madoka. That means Homura is taking back Madoka to the past where she supposedly doesn't exist and became a sort of manifested system in it because plot.
3. Hey, at least Kyubey got kicked in the dick several times, so it's fiiiiine.
The opening was pretty much understandable, and I even liked it. And the ending I managed to understand after looking up some explanations. The part that makes me not want to do it is that very near the end (about when Madoka shows up to save the day), I realized that I had, like, no memory of the last forty-five minutes or so of the movie. It completely passed me by without my comprehending it. Maybe that's on the movie, or maybe that's on me. I dunno. Makes me nervous about covering it.
Plus, after this business with the copyright strikes, I don't want to touch anime on this channel ever again. >.>
Rebells was origin just the simple Plot of Homura become a Witch and go Home too Madoka. A nice End, but the last 20 Minutes are for the Next Film, because Fanservise and Money.
Though still, Madoka is basically omni-present so she should have noticed kyubey creating a pocket space trying to seal Homura
I feel like you have many things wrong here, so let me slide in a few things.
The plot of rebellion.
After the events of eternal, the incubators grew increasingly curious as to why soul gems disappear when they can't be purified anymore. After homura explained the witch universe to them, they went about with an experiment.
They waited until homura was at the edge of despair, just when her soul gem was ready to disappear, and kidnapped her. They placed her soul gem in a place where the law of cycles could not reach it, and waited for homura to build the witch labyrinth that she had explained in the epilogue of eternal. They made it so homura could bring people into her labyrinth, but the victims could not escape.
Homura, unknowingly, created her own mitakihara city, one where she and her friends could continue to live happily in ignorant bliss. However, homura started to see through her own tricks and lies, and began to seek answers.
Once she realised she was the source of the labyrinth itself, she also realised what the incubators were intending to do.
The incubators, being the little bastards they are, intended to capture the law of cycles once she tried to set homura free. They were going to use her to make magical girls turn into witches so they could harvest more energy.
Homura knew this, and knew that if madoka had gotten away, the incubators would have done the same experiment again and again and again, forcing madoka to venture into these traps to save the suffering girls until the incubators captured her.
So, homura decided to take action to keep madoka safe. She had intended to die within her labyrinth at first in the hopes the incubators would find it pointless; but when it didn't work, homura became desperate.
Her desperation caused her to tear madoka into two beings: the law of cycles (locked safely away), and madoka herself, who got to live a normal life with her loved ones. Homura became a demon (more of a goddess) that ruled over the universe that she took over. She forced the incubators to work to harvest curses as punishment for their sins, and kept close watch over madoka to keep her from enduring so much despair for others like she had once.
TL;DR - homura takes over the universe and changes its laws to keep incubators from taking advantage of magical girls, while also keeping madoka safe from being used as a puppet.
@@BarcingMatter not to mention that in doing this, Homura also saves all of humanity from the incubators, at least until Madoka naturally dies (if she lets her that is)
7:46 well, the reason sayaka's witch seems very mermaid-like is because of a few reasons.
The original story of the little mermaid is very tragic. A mermaid fell in love with a human man, just like the Disney version. Only, in the original, the mermaid never got to be with the human, and turned into seafoam (whether from the seawitch or her loneliness changes from story to story.)
It's also a metaphor for her "drowning in her dispair".
And finally, mermaids, or what some people know as sirens, are beautiful sea creatures with the body of a woman, known for drawing in sailors to their death with beautiful music. In this, Octavia would be leading victims to their death with her hypnotic orchestra. The creators of this show did a wonderful job with making every detail of the show fit with the characters.
I'd add a sin for Homura telling Kyubey all about the original universe. Why would she trust him at all if she still remembers the old universe? Kyubey had theories about the original universe, but literally had no way of knowing until Homura confirmed it. Sure, if she'd kept her mouth shut we wouldn't have a 3rd movie, but - *Spoilers*
We wouldn't have Homura becoming the devil to fix a problem that had already been solved.
That's a good one!
Lavender Admittedly it was a dumb move telling Kyubey about the original world's Witch system and the Law of Cycles. Especially since Madoka's wish didn't change Kyubey at all, and his species would return to that system in a heartbeat if it was more efficient for energy gathering which it is, and worse yet if they could harness a godlike entity for even more energy production.
However, Homura's solution was necessary. When Madokami came for Homura she was in visible physical for as opposed to invisible like usual, everyone observed her including Kyubey. And now that he knows the Law of Cycles is an observable thing his species would've figured out how to capture or manipulate her eventually. Ore over the current system had still left Sayaka dead along with any other Magical Girl that would've become a Witch.
The solution to both make things better and make sure Madoka is safe from Kyubey? Become Akuma Homura, even if she had to play the part of the villain to do so and make a better world as well as end the Incubator threat once and for all. But as for the world she created, or rather her barrier, Homura knows it may be temporary, and acknowledges that, accepts it. At least by the time Madoka regains her power, the Incubators will still be no threat.
Homura knows what she did wasn't exactly right and views herself as the villain for it. You can see this from the fact that her Familiars are throwing tomatoes at her and carrying out the act of suicide at the end of the movie. The Familiars are a manifestation from her mind, showing that she believes she deserves scorn and death. But she did what was necessary for the overall good.
I just wished people would stop justifying Rebellion's bad writing.
She did fuck up by telling him the turth, but your last sentence is wrong: the 'problem' she fixed was Madoka being erased from existence.
Lavender she's a demon not a devil (don't hate me for saying that if you think they're the same thing)
I always wondered if Homura's parents or guardians ever noticed and reacted to her personality changes; with each timeline and remembering what happens, I would think that, to her parents when Homura wakes up in the reset timeline, would see her go from a timid girl to waking up completely different and thus treat her differently because of that. I feel like it could have been a great plotpoint that could have added more tension and would have been too important to look over.
dont know how to tell u this but
Homura is an orphan
@@bwabiedapoosy yeah
Brian Kirby does NOT know how pronounce his words ;-;
And that's a sin uwu
wall-purgee-nought
Midokah, Kie-yolk-oh, Kie-yu-bay, Wall-burch-noght, Wall-purg-not, wall-pur-gee-not, Sey-yaka. Yep that's totally how you pronounce these names
I hate how Brian pronounces "Kyubey".
I hate how Brian mispronounced _Everything._ it's like he's doing it on purpose, like Slowbeef does with Mario's name...
Please get smarter narrations
I hate how he pronounces anything
@vixen 101 Actually yes, it does. Just as your lack of ability to craft a proper sentences makes YOU dumb. Have a nice day.
half of these sins arent even sins just your own lack of research lmao
14:34 In this timeline, Kyoske plays the guitar instead of the Violin. So, that’s why Oktavia and her labyrinth look different
Apparently, Homura's shield changes into a bow to represent that she's no longer dwelling in the past and has moved on. However, thsi contradicts Rebellion, which is all about how Homura was unable to move on.
SolvNia Actually no. Her shield and her bow coexisted for a little bit until she defeted the witch that was in her shield. She then went back, broke the shield, and pretended like it didn't happen. However kyubey managed to find a peice of the broken shield, and this is what triggered rebellion. Her shield and her bow are two completely different weapons.
Saphie Feather when and where is it explained?
rode wulf Wraith Arc.
@@saphiefeather2305 I thought her bow was madokas as a second gift like her ribbon
Ya but rebellion sucks so we don't count it
The movies, especially the 2nd one, had a lot more visual foreshadowing of Homura's descent into despair. That's what a lot of those strange cinematic scenes involving Homura are, in my opinion.
That being said, y'all would have a field day with Rebellion.
Symbolism! +1 sin!
Magic residue is not only brought up but them using it to track witches is explained in the second episode or so so not very far into the first movie. and I am fairly certain it wasn't cut out of the movie because it would cut out the whole lead up to the woman attempting suicide and Mami saving her.
Either it was cut or it wasn't explained well enough that I remembered what it was. Double sin! :D
Let's say that it was cut- I don't recall that exact scene though I'm positive it exists, so the line might not be there .What did you think they were following to track witches? Pixie dust? Kyouko is giving a name to a phenomenon we've seen the entire series, let's not treat it like a shocking new concept please.
28:04 when homura kept going back in time it shifts madoka personality
first timeline Madoka is Brave and energetic
current she's shy but still brave
how does madoka know she shaped her idk
Can the guy commenting in the 10-12 minute zone stop mispronouncing everything? Thanks :) I love these tbh :3
I cringed when he mispronounced Kyuubey as Kayaba XD
Hayri Mert Dumlu Exactly 😂 he's like 'Kaiyoko' 'Homrea' 'Kaiyube' 'Walpurgnot' I'm here like 'Being Meguca is suffering'
nagisa momo DO NOT THROW SOULS!!!!
Same I hate it when the deep voice guy kept mispronouncing the names. Learn how to pronounce the names before you say them!
@@samgriffithstopford3350 I becom meguca for keuskiko
12:10 , Homura's right there.
Whoops! Pretend that says Mami. Just a typo in the script.
Mami's right there too. she just can't get up because, you know dead.
...You know, I'm starting to think I shouldn't reply to comments when I'm tired. You're right again, oops. I have no idea who that line is supposed to refer to. So...let's say it's Goku, I guess. :P
ur hired for sinning a sintenseher
Aaaand thats a sin for sintenseher. -
One more argument, then I'm done.
At the end, Madoka's wish can be interpretted as a happy ending, but the whole point of the ending was to show that happy endings can happen, and that they can change their own fate. Even then, Madoka sacrificed her existance to save these girls, making it a semi-sweet ending.
Even then, you can only call a partially happy ending, the whole basis for Rebellion's ending is that Madoka's wish was something that she only did because she had to, and as a result, gave up her freedom to (At least for the Homura Supporters) save the girls, making it a sad ending.
According to the Kazumi magica manga, all incubators have one consciousness. So, all incubators are kyubey.
Sin 39: While Kyubey should have done more explaining, the girls, as you pointed out, are guilty of not asking ANY questions, and that's what's coming back to bite them. Some, like Mami, can't ask based on the recruitment timing, but others like Madoka, Sayaka, the girls from Kazumi Magica (especially Saki) CAN and SHOULD have been asking questions BECAUSE Kyubey wasn't telling them anything, but didn't because then there wouldn't have been a plot.
Also, legal autonomy? Sure, their not old enough to make a decision like this, but what can they realistically do? Aside from just saying no and ignoring Kyubey, they can't really go to anyone aside from other candidates or Magical Girls for advice on what to do without seeming crazy or on drugs, or both!
You know, Walpurgisnacht makes a lot more sense if she also becomes stronger with each time reset along with Madoka. The first time around, Madoka beats it alone in a suicidal attack. Second time, it's stronger but Madoka is also stronger, with Homura's help can kill it but griefs out. Third timeline, both Madoka and Walpurgisnacht are stronger, Homura is more actively involve and both of their soul gems are corrupted to the brink. Fourth, Walpurgisnacht is so powerful that Homura is being curbstomped. Same with the fifth, despite Homura using more firepower. She made it worse, by making the big threat even stronger each time, making it so that ONLY Madoka can stop it.
"i wish all magical girl never existed"
5min later why the fuck is there still magical girls and those demon thingamajigs
I wish all witches never existed*
I need an "Everything wrong with Rebellion" bc I can already smell the huge load of sins it would get :'D
The reason why sayaka's witch is supposed to be mermaid as a representation of unrequited love. Remeber sayaka fell into despair because hitomi stole kyouskue in the last movie. That and the knowledge that kyubey tricked her
19:10 I think the only reason Madoka had that grief seed is bc it was Sayakas, so she probably either forgot she had it or didn't wanna use it.
Also I'm pretty sure the scene with Madoka and Sayaka at the end was pretty much Madoka saying she left Sayaka's fate the way it was so she could "honor her wish". And basically Sayaka says thats ok and she doesn't regret it anymore and she's glad she got to hear Kyouske play again.
22:16 Can you think of anything in more emotional chaos than a Teenage girl? And conflicting emotions are what create the Energy Kyube is looking for.
Also, there is no balance without a entity of evil. The witches are gone, but the bad emotions still have to manifest in some way even in Madokas new world. Its just a lot more harmless than before.
Kyubey can't teleport, there's just an alarming amount of his kind that can be wherever they want
Fun fact: Kyubey is not an entity. It is a hivemind called *_The Incubator_* who is also an alien. Kyubey is the cute nickname the alien gave itself to keep young girls from getting put off. It can not teleport. It can, however, have two or more of its bodies in a single area at a time and, say, appear to teleport by hiding one and revealing another. That is why it walks.
The Incubators are an alien species. Kyubey is just one of many.
@@Tintenseher Sorry, I thought it was a hive mind.
They are something in between both those concepts.
I believe the reason why Madoka soul gem is that big is because of the fact that as a godess she has to carry a large amount of magic that she uses to take the burden and despair of every magical girl that existed in the past, present and future an she must destroy every witch that ever existed too.
Mami also stated that her job meant endless and continuous battles, to which it requires an immense lot of magic, i think that's why her soul gem is that big.
The thing with magical girl telepathy is that Kyubey relays the girls' thoughts with his own abilities. Think of it like using a walkie-talkie to talk to someone too fast away to talk to normally, with Kyubey functioning as the walkie-talkie. Magical girls themselves don't have true telepathy. Kyubey likely refused to relay Homura's information to the other girls so he could better manipulate them into contracts. This would be perfectly in-character for him, especially considering the opposition between him and Homura.
And/or Homura trying to send her thoughts via Kyubey gives the demon space ferret info that she doesn't want him to have.
The only time (that I know of) where we see Homura use telepathy is in the "Homura's Revenge" manga - the one that starts with her grabbing Madoka at the end of the previous timeline (implied to be almost exactly the same as the anime) and pulls her back in time with her before she can make the contract... and unfortunately Kyubey was also touching Madoka at the last moment, so all three of them retained their memories of their previous timeline, meaning Kyubey already knows a lot of what Homura is usually trying to hide from him. We see Homura and Madoka have a telepathic conversation about how to try to salvage the "first" meeting with Mami... and I think another brief one just before Mami fights Charlotte (when Mami's tied Homura up again and blown off her warning).
Generalized answer to why Homura cant use her time powers to refine her approch. Kyubey told her that Madoka's karma will continue building on itself and eventually when Madoka DOES die it will be the worst anyone could imagine.
WAIT, YOU FORGOT A SIN! JOAN OF ARC (as was referenced in the movie) WAS 19 WHEN SHE WAS EXECUTED! SHE WAS A WOMAN, NOT A GIRL! SO SHE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN A MAGICAL GIRL!
But she's already done it like a hundred times by the time the anime starts, and it's far past the timeline when Madoka's witch form is said to be able to destroy the planet, like at 19:25. Presumably, that point is where Madoka's power crosses the threshold, so why not keep rewinding another hundred times?
And don't worry, we've gotcha: 22:12 :)
I know this is so old but.. sin for both of u
No where is it even stated in madoka magica that u absolutely and completely have to be a teenage girl in order to be a puella magi/magic user; presumably, majority of adult puella magi contracted at a young age and are/were able to still grow up and survive enough
"Is Homura's room a labryinth?" They heard that and made another movie lmaoo
It's 2:00 AM here.
Who needs sleep, am I right?
the nitpicking is strong in this one xD BUT it also raises many important points that just can't be really be explained, and no one wants to talk about. like that homura's 100 timelines thing is kinda bullshit. the show works better if you don't know this fact. there might have been 10, or 20, but not 100, that's such messy bullshit..that also are many...many...many other things...
Subtract 20 sins for the Brian mispronouncing their names.
Surprised you didn't include the last part of the movie where the movie hints at Homura becoming a witch. That part leads to the situation in Rebellion (please do Rebellion)
Rebellion next! The masses are demanding!
18:54 Walpurgisnacht's labyrinth??? They literally explain that she doesn't need one, did you guys even watch the show?
Kyu-bae. Two syllables
Val-pur-gas-not.
MAH-do-ka
Sai-uh-kuh
Mee-tah-key-hah-rah
Kyo-ko again, two syllables.
Writhing. Ry-thing
Hoh-moo-rah
Best thing about madoka magic: The catchy opening song and the full version of it
Worst thing: hitomi turning sayaka into the third wheel, painfully relatable 🥲
Most confusing thing: the stupid, narsassistic, weird, soul collecting, wish granting ferret
Most painful thing: the way the name's are being pronounced 🥲 and madoka's sacrifice
The anime: walpurghistnaught
The subtitles: wall purchase night
10 Sins for Brian Kirby. Either his memory is shit and can't remember how the names are pronounced or he never watched the series/movies and is thus sinning them without having seen them. Even if he just forgot how they're pronounced, he's participating in makinga video that uses clips from the movie and should thus be able to review them or ask the others if he's pronouncing them right.
An aditional 3 sins for the video creator/editor, who didn't bring this up with Brian and have him redo his segment.
I was actually thinking of adding a bonus sin removal section for all the times in both videos we pronounced things differently, but by the time I was done editing the main part I was just too tired of it :P
I think he did it on purpose, but, to be honest, that's equally or even more annoying.
This video can't understand the basics of Madoka Magica.
"It's Kyubey's fault for not explaining" why? If you were going to sign a contract, wouldn't it be in the signer's best interest to ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS?? Kyubey's right; it's their fault. He has no obligation to explain jack shit, cause clearly humans are just a power source. When was the last time you asked a power outlet if you could plug in a kettle?
Minors can't sign legally binding contracts, they have no reason to suspect that the cute alien is manipulating them, and power outlets aren't alive ;)
But for the sake of argument, let's assume that everything you said is right. Kyubey's been doing this for thousands upon thousands of years, and it's pretty clear he's had this argument with other magical girls in the past. The fact that he still claims that he isn't tricking them means one of two things: either he's lying (which he says he doesn't do), or he's so monumentally stupid that he doesn't understand basic pattern recognition after a hundred thousand years on the job - in which case, why should we believe anything he says? A creature unable to pick up on how children are individuals with their own thoughts and personalities, and how they are largely bad at asking complicated questions re: complex binding agreements with far-reaching consequences, is not cut out to reverse entropy.
To answer a question if the Runes are popping up in the real world. Yes they actually are lol. Also the names are from multiple folklore but most german. Also technically it's not really the real world either but a witch's domain where all concepts of reality are totally changed. =3 Not defending the series totally but there is some level of detail it means you to understand.
Also Kyoko's sacrifice was because she used her soul gem as a weapon and was the reason they beat Sayaka's witch form to begin with. As no one does understands how strong homura is. Due to this level of unknown knowledge they assume the worst and take it upon themselves to do something about it.
The other magical girls are busy. You can find out what they doing by reading the other 10+ manga to do with the series. Ya you can assume Homura just goes and kills all the witches we never see because she would know about all of them. She wanted to kill charlotte too but Mami got in the way of that one.
Homura uses the grief seeds to kill other witches. So there is no telling if she can even save enough for the end. Also that griefseed in particular is one they don't want to have because it is most likely Sayaka's.
Had a blast working on this! Came out amazing :))
ok, I know I'm probably the only person who cares but I have to ask anyway because reasons.
why was Ave Maria sinned, this is driving me crazy
It's overused is all :)
homura never showed even a hint of emotion throughout the series until AFTER they revealed homura's background
and also, spills everything in a burst of emotion in ways madoka has NO way of understanding.
out of everything madoka could have done in that moment, she chose to accept it and move on!
+3 sins
Walpurgisnacht doesn't HAVE a labyrinth.
Kyubey is everywhere because he is a lot of kyubey in the same time
you said witches cant exist if magical girls dont exist but if witches didn't exist there would be no way for magical girls to turn into witches soooo
edit: im probably wrong about this and missed something....
Think we're saying the same thing ;)
oh okay
I thought it was pretty bad ass when Homura put her hair down and lost the glasses walking through the timeloop
Man I really wish you'd do one for Rebellion, it'd be awesome!!
also I loved this one, thank you a lot for working so hard on it
YES
you don't know.....how long I've waited........for this.
Maybe not, but I'm gonna guess...about 2 months?
Tintenseher this is so good!! Madoka is my favourite anime but no anime is without sin, as they say.
I know this is very late, but this just appeared on my recommended! Wow, the production of this is great, and many great points were made, and it was entertaining to watch! You deserve way more subs!
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it.
31:31 Uhh, I think seeing the one you spent years and years of traveling through time and reliving the same month, watching the same people die, including the person you tried to save, turn into a god, and become out of your reach, is in fact a fate worse than death.
It's a bit like the Little Mermaid, where Homura goes to great lengths in order to be with Madoka, and in the end, her efforts were in vain, though the Little Mermaid story goes a lot more with Sayaka's story.
Sayakas witch has a fish tail because her entire arc is basically a retelling of the little mermaid
Everything Wrong with Everything Wrong with Video ;)
You can't add 20 sins (+1 sin)
Why'd the narrator swap 5 minutes in? (+1 sin)
It's stated in episode 2 that Kyubey is the one facilitating the telepathy, not Mami or any of the other Magical Girls. It wouldn't be in Kyubey's best interest to allow Homura telepathy, thus she doesn't get any. (+1 sin)
Magic residue was a thing Mami used to track Gertrude. (+1 sin)
Homura's a time traveller, that's why she knows when the things happen. (+1 sin)
Madoka finished off Walpurgisnacht after Mami weakened it in the original timeline. (+3 sins, one for each mention)
Homura can just tell Madoka about the time travel. (+1 sin)
You can't add 95 sins (+1 sin)
When did the source material say that Madoka turned into a witch immediately after defeating Walpurgisnacht? (+1 sin)
Some Magical Girls survive to adulthood. Not many, but some. (+1 sin)
"One day, entropy is gonna kill the universe. Let's fix that by ripping holes in reality! Brilliant!" Lol (-1 sin)
"Zug Zug make contract with ferret. Zug Zug have new clothes and magic powers. Hey, look, fire! Is that a meteor?" Lol (-1 sin)
How would you even take "You're the only Magical Girl left" to mean "left in the world" when Madoka clearly means "left among the ones I know about" / "from Mitakihara who would fight Walpurgisnacht"? (+1 sin)
"Yeah. Madoka is 14. She shouldn not be allowed to make this call." Lol (-1 sin)
You say "pretty much a happy ending," but Kyubey is still systematically preying on, tricking, and killing pubescent girls. Even without turning into a witch, most of them suffer and die before reaching adulthood. The threat from the witches has been replaced with a different foe whom seems to be causing the same sort of effect. This is also not helped by her ending leaving Homura without the one person she wished to save, which would eventually lead to Homura tearing down Madoka's world. (+1 sin)
Tally: 11 sins
Sentence: Demon Ferrots
These people don't understand enough.
One dislike for that.
Lol this is probably why kyubey only contracts young vulnerable girls. Because they can’t put kyubey in their place and humble them like this guy just did.
- Kyubey doesn't lie. It doesn't have the emotional capacity to do so.
Fun vid.
8:36: I don't know, I'd like Madoka ex Homura more, oh wait.
Half of the sins can be explained by WATCHING THE GOD DAMN SERIES! The incubators use pure logic no emotions
There are so many errors in these sins that I genuinely wonder if you guys actually watched in comprehended the series. A lot of them are very obvious and are sometimes debunked later in the video. I understand you need more sins to make the video entertaining, but if you to come up with false problems then maybe just don’t make the video
Seems like you need to pay better attention! Give it a rewatch and try again.
Tintenseher would you like some examples?
Given that these videos have already received plenty of comments trying to debunk perfectly valid criticisms and/or jokes, I would rather you did something productive.
Tintenseher do you honestly believe that every criticism in this video is valid?
Of course not; a few of them have been rightly corrected, and some of them are just jokes. But the number of comments that have made an accurate observation are vastly outnumbered by the comments that haven't.
Oktavia looks like a mermaid because Sayaka's character arc is similar to The Little Mermaid (Sayaka is the mermaid, Kyoko is the sisters, Kyosuke is the prince, etc)
5:30 Kuybey kinda half-lies a lot. It is possible to turn a witch back into a magical girl if you do it via a wish (if not literally then via rewriting time), but Magical girls who's wishes have already been granted would find it impossible. So depending on the context, it is possible, but only if you have a worthy girl around who's willing to wish it to be so
I can only justify like 1/10th of these, but I have read every manga, and virtually every theory on this series, so good job. It's usually more.
Okay, 1/20th
oh and homura can't loop because her "weapon" (when she gets hit by the flat)doesn't work
Talking about Kyubey's plan: The most energy that gets released for collection triggers around the point when a Magical Girl becomes a Witch. That transformation is apparently the most energy-rich. So having the girls become Witches is VERY beneficial for them, not only as a thing for the girls to fight and waste their magic on, but as the point of MOST energy they can get.
There's a reason the Incubators wanted to bring back the old system in Rebellion y'know. ;)
Brian Kirby can’t pronounce the names. My brain hurts now
Leilani you ain’t lyin 🙄
A lot of them can't.
You're counting Kyubey's sins as movie sins... That's like saying when the Joker kills someone in batman that means the film is worse than if the Joker didn't kill that guy. Yeah, Kyubey is evil, but it doesn't care what you think about it, you're just an insane alien monkey thing, full of cognitive biases. Kyubey is doing exactly the right thing to further his goals and doesn't care weather or not that's "evil".
In sin 289: Madoka's soul gem is big because of all the karmic power she has because of homura's time traveling, she has all the hope for the girls in her gem, as well of all the despair, so its that big because of
1. Homuras time travel
and 2. All the hope she created and gathered, plus the soul gem is as big as the influence of the wish has in reality, since madoka rewrote the universe her soul gem is gigantic
All of that is stated within the show. The point is that every other Soul Gem is the same size. Homura's isn't any bigger than Kyoko's, Mami's, or Sayaka's, despite her clearly being the most powerful magical girl among them. The Soul Gems that Madoka cleanses throughout time (the viking girl, the teddy bear girl, etc.) are the same. Even Madoka's is the same in every single timeline until the final one, despite her potential growing with each loop. It doesn't make sense!
29:22 - She's rewriting the laws and as such Mami and Kyoko should be alive. The scene is them coming back to life since the reason they would die doesn't make sense anymore. The reason Sayaka is not there is that in every timeline she is either not a magical girl, dies in battle, or turns into Oktavia. Since Madoka's wish would make Oktavia impossible, she is instead taken by Madoka.
33:23 - Homura's wish was based on the fact that Madoka died. Since Madoka technically no longer exists, her wish no longer exists and, as such, needs to change. This is explained a bit more in Rebellion where the Incubators mention how she is an anomaly as her existence came out of nowhere and, as such, chose her to try and bait Godoka.
There needs to be another sin for Greef seeds not being explained, at the end of episode 2 Mami uses a greef seed then tosses it to Homura saying "it should still be good for one more use" Why couldn't Madoka and Homura split that greef seed at the end?
Very late response, but in the series it is suggested, if not outright stated, that Grief Seeds can only absorb a certain amount of impurity before they "become dangerous" and "a Witch could hatch from it".
Fully recharging Homura's magic/cleansing her Soul Gem from the brink of exploding into a Grief Seed after the Walpurgisnacht battle in timeline 3 sucked up way more 'impurity' than the little restoration Mami needed after destroying Gertrud. More to the point, Madoka probably thought she needed Homura to be at full power/zero grief for the "Go back and make sure I don't get tricked by Kyubey again" mission. Splitting Oktavia/Sayaka's Grief Seed might have saved them both or it might not have, and if Madoka had indeed figured it made more sense to save Homura than save herself, of course she'd save Homura first
Madoka talking with Mami and Kyouko is because of her wish.
I have a theory as to why Tatsuya remembered but no one else besides Homura and it isnt perfect but it is something. Its that Tatsuya has some form magic inside of him from being around Madoka because her Karmic destiny or some shit was so high it rubbed off on him and he gained some minor powers from it
There aren't only human Magical Girls
one of the witches is confirmed to be an Alien, but I don't remember which one
Octavia is a mermaid i believe because mermaids are often victims of unrequited love
The sin on Walpurgis Nacht' name is undeserved.
They don't know the names of individual witches. Walpurgis Nacht is also not the same if the witch, it's a moniker given by the magical girls for this particular witch.
In Homura's literature you can see Walpurgis Nacht has been around since the 1640s, or something around that time.
Another sin you name is Kyoko taking a 180' in personality.
But this switch is explained better later on.
Kyoko froze her heart because she believed her selflessness caused all the trouble. After reconciling with Sayaka she was reminded of why she became a magical girl in the first place, and she reminded her of the knightly characters in the stories she loved as a kid.
At 12:10 Where is everyone else?
In a timeline without interference, kyoko doesn't come to Matikahara, and Sayaka always becomes a witch, or doesn't become a magical girl at all. She has no surviving timelines.
i can explain the ending: so the law of the universe is that positive energy and negative energy must cancel out. (net of 0) this means that if magical girls can't turn into witches, the negative energy needs another way of existing.
also, cut scene in the anime series: homura can fly! with wings made of negative energy (hint for rebellion)
Just noticed that Madoka is using SAYAKA's greif seed to cleanse Homura's soul gem. Shit that's dark.
if kyubey explained everything to potential magical girls before making the contract with them, no one in their right mind would become a magical girl. that's why he goes with the excuse of "you never asked." and homura knew to come at that exact moment during the oktavia battle because, you know, she's been through hundreds of timelines doing the exact same thing. homura can also only start a new timeline if she or madoka dies. just saying.
You know, considering the description, I thought Moemura would get more sins.
I counted one for her being stressed out, her not preventing Madoka from making contract in the first timeline, not using Mami's knowledge as proof, the 'it wasn't a dream' scene, the adorable training montage that actually removed sins, professional pipe bomb, the 'Ask Kyubey!' argument, insanely long time stop, improbable aiming skills and the Moemura trauma scene that also removes sins. In the end, the total is actually a net zero (or probably a bit more above zero if you count it differently, but still way less than I expected). GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND HAVE A SUB.
(No, I am not counting the 95 sins rant. Moemura is gone by that point.)
Speaking of sins, I could technically argue about her self-deprecation and the problem with communication stuff, though. Trust me, I can compare my social skills to hers, and there are things that I never said even though I should. And sometimes have a case of bad self-deprecation. The other I can agree with.
if you can't already tell I want to hug the poor traumatized girl that is Moemura... and technically Homura. With her trauma, no wonder she broke inside.
Had no idea this was even uploaded XD
This girl just flipped her hair, it's time to add 5 extra mistakes to total amount!
28:01 because she knows she’ll fail again and it’ll make Madoka’s destiny so much worse
We know in the Madoka Psp game there are alien magical girls
"So if you ever feel like dying for the sake of the universe, call me!"
you could get a lot of sins off just because time lines ARE supposed to have diferences (big or small) or maybe I could be wrong
I actually spent (wasted?) like a year of studying how a magical girls wish dictates how their witch looks, acts, and all that shit.
The video is from 6 years ago and nobody will read my comment, but it's so funny how the creator gave many sins for Kyuubei talking to Madoka, but paid zero attention to that enormous amount of chairs in her room
You know, I thought I remembered mentioning it. Maybe I'd just given up by then. You gotta pick your battles, y'know?
Also, I remember something about the chairs possibly being a deep-cut reference to a mecha anime, and I don't know enough about that to comment, haha.
@@Tintenseher wow I'm shocked you answered.
Of course it's not like serious critisism, I enjoyed the video and it made me think about things I didn't notice in Madoka, so thanks!
@@linterna9032 No worries, I laughed! I'm glad you got something out of it; I love this show, and that's all I was hoping to do for people :)
Madoka would know that Homura traveled back in time in the 3rd timeline because, in the 3rd timeline, Homura explained to everyone that Kyubey was tricking all of them and told them about what happened in the 2nd timeline, which is likely when Homura told everyone that she was a time traveler. I also thought that the timeline, in general, made a lot of sense: Homura travels back in time to the same date until the timeline when she learns that magical girls become witches. That's the timeline when Madoka asks Homura to go back in time to before Madoka makes a contract with Kyubey, so that would be at least a week earlier. Every other timeline after that she would have to travel back at least to the date before or when Madoka made a contract with Kyubey.
I thought I heard Obabscribbler in here XD great job on the sins btw
Magic residue was explain in the first movie.
That was the entrance to Octavia's barrier.
Can someone tell me what the difference between the anime and the movies are?
Homura has one month worth of sand inside her hourglass making her able to stop time for a whole month.
We literally see Homura attempting communication
The first time we see it Mami ignores her and ties her up and gets herself killed instead of asking for help. We also learn Sayaka doesn't believe her.
However her just telling them kyub is a liar and contracts are bull isnt likely to work. First Kyub is a liar. Like that was one of your sins. This makes proving her case a bit more difficult than you are treating it. We are also shown they dont just trust her even if she tries to build a relationship.
Second when the twats(Sayaka and Mammi) find out the truth we are shown they are willing to take direct deliberate destructive action.
When Sayaka learns she is basically a lich she gives up on living.
When Mammi learns when magical girls hollow they turn into witches she tries to kill litterally everyone. Homura cant fix mistakes if she is dead and its hard to convince someone that cat is part of an alien race that turns girls in puberty into liches to convert their angst into energy violating the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Yall literally said the actual explanation wasn't believable.
Kyoko and Madoka are the only ones shed reasonable assume would actually be helpful to convince.
However she doesn't even need to go through the effort for either of the 2.
This leaves the problem of proving Kyub is a liar. She cant just form a witch for an example for obvious reasons (cant just kill magical girls to gain trust) and if someone took her seriously she cant just risk her life with a soul gem and they wouldn't trust her with theirs.
Even if she tries to prove them she risks one of the idiot balls doing something dangerous or stupid especially if Kyub encourages them to do something that would get someone killed like how he got Sakura killed in the final timeline to make sure he gets what he wants.
Kyubey is a hive mind so...
Don't ask me how the defective ones with emotions work