Madoka Magica Rebellion: Beautiful Artistic Insanity
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- Опубліковано 3 січ 2017
- Madoka Magica Rebellion, just like most other "connected" anime movies are rarely mentioned by anyone. So, knowing this, I decided to talk about the absolute genius of the 3rd Madoka Magica movie.
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The ending makes a lot of sense when you remember what Madoka said during the "flower scene", where Homura tells Madoka that she "had a bad dream" (referring to Madoka becoming a god and no one remembering her except Homura). She said, and I quote, "That's right. You, Sayaka-chan, Mami-san, Kyoko-chan, my dad and mom and Tatsuya and even Hitomi-chan and everyone in our class. I would never want to go somewhere I could never see anyone again. Even if there were no other choice, I know I'd never have the courage to do something like that". In that moment, Homura realizes that she has to somehow save Madoka, thus the ending.
i think these are two different madokas tho.
One didn't see the pain/aftermath of becoming a magical girl (the one that says the quote you stated), while the other did. Seeing all of that would probarly change a person, right?
But homura did it to save her so, there's that, so i understand. But i wouldnt go against my friend's wish, unless they becmae unhappy. Madoka didn't seem unhappy at all (if im not mistaken) when destroying all th e witches
i think these are two different madokas tho.
One didn't see the pain/aftermath of becoming a magical girl (the one that says the quote you stated), while the other did. Seeing all of that would probarly change a person, right?
But homura did it to save her so, there's that, so i understand. But i wouldnt go against my friend's wish, unless they becmae unhappy. Madoka didn't seem unhappy at all (if im not mistaken) when destroying all th e witches
@@boppop9812 That could also be what clouded Homura's reasoning/decision. She based it on what Madoka said on Rebellion instead of what Madoka originally decided.
But don't forget that that Madoka was probably an image created by the Labyrinth that just said what Homura wanted to hear
Nah that's just what homura wants to hear, after the end of the anime some time passed and in that time she just lost her mind like when she said she started doubting her own memories and that madoka was just some invention of her own mind thats how she became a witch so her own maze made a ideal madoka who agreed with her own vision of the future
I don't understand why some people think that what Homura did was out of her character. At the end, she gives Madoka a normal (but fake) life. That's what she was trying to do from the all begining of the show ! Yes, it's somewhat a "bad" ending, but the original show already had a "bad" ending with Madoka sacrificing herself.
Btw, it was a great video, you won a sub !
I bet for those who doesn't understand Rebellion, they're like haven't watched the anime series or haven't even watched 'the full movie' itself(?) like you said Lord Sithis, they were like fell asleep in the middle or something xD I dont know any possible reason but, thats the only explanation for me.
or maybe they're just want to complain for no reason.
NykowPalalum absolutely, you have the fucking point. I can't think it's weird Homura's obsession about Madoka end up being so bad as Rebellion turns out to be. It makes so much sense. Love can lead to ugly and terrible feelings, it's not always beauty and flowers.
Ann Sears maybe many people just rush through the anime, don't focus the story, hence, don't fucking get it - wich is a complex and wonderful plot adding Rebellion, you can't just watch for the aesthetics and the cute characters.
In magical girls anime. People seem to think the main character that they first saw or have pink outfit with clumsy and shy personality is the main spot of the show but Madoka Magically is different, Homura is actually the main spot of the show, the main character of other main characters. I understand what the ending is, it shows that when u want to do something so desperate that u do it for your own selfishness, but Homura also give something back, she gave everyone what they want, as long as no one stand in her way, she won't go ugly
@ Homura want Madoka to admire her
Finally, Rebellion gets some praise.
Trust me, that's part of the reason why I made this video. =D
You made an interesting point about people complaining about the ending so much because it's a pretty common problem amongst anime fans.
Yeah, people really do need to start looking at the anime as a whole instead of just the ending. XD
True, a lot of people hate several other anime like Soul Eater and Erased (ESPECIALLY Erased) for the same reason.
Yep. 1 five minute segment vs a 6 hour anime, and yet the 6 minute segment determines the quality.
I loved rebellion, the only reason "fans" dislike it is because it "makes no sense" which in other words means the didn't pay attention to the movie and/or the series. rebellion is art and it evolved the story into an ascension story. 100% of the time I asked what they didn't like they couldn't even tell me apart from it didn't make sense. which if you paid attention it makes sense. homura made the only decision that she could have.
Oh yeah, the story makes perfect sense. I have no clue how someone can't follow it. XD
But making sense of the movie would require them to think, which they're probably incapable of.
it is a legit opinion though, i didnt like it as much as the first series and it didnt give me feels like it did, and the thematic and artistic aesthetic didn't impact me as much. i was almost bored, somehow, especially that much beloved fight scene. its only now i can put into words -why-, which is why im bothering to reply
the original was very simple, it started out with a wholesome story, turned 180 degrees into beautiful contained madness, and then back 180 into a straightforward bittersweet ending that, without the 180 turn, would have felt flat. its a simple two turn story that ends, and you dont have to be 2deep4u about it, either, its just feels n shiet
this movies almost complete deviation from those clean aesthetics is just confusing because it doesn't match at all, you expect and adore something else. you can acknowledge that there is sense and meaning in the movie, but you cant expect that all "fans" will necessarily like it just because its there. its like pancakes and waffles, would you condemn pancake fans for not liking waffles?
literally homura's wish could only have swallowed up madoka. idk why some people whine about it. homura's wish is meant to win and override any wish of madoka's from the start
The movie was disliked ? I loved it !
I'm obsessed with the artists that are responsible for the witch/wraith/nightmare scenes, gekidan inu curry. Thank you for giving the show's style the recognition it deserves!
I'm glad someone else appreciates the movie as much as I do. =D
Me too. It is my dream to find out how they do it, and create my own witches. But they are Japanese, and I can never ask them.
Same here from the very first episode to the last movie, totally obsessed with their style. Definitely recommend checking out all their other work.
Yeah, I usually watch this anime to see the witches rather than the magical girls
I agree! People don't talk enough about how stunning the visuals and music in Rebellion are! My personal favorite piece of symbolism are the spider lilies, representing abandonment and loss. When Homura completes her transformation into a witch, there are red lines streaming down her eyes. I interpret this as spider lilies growing over her face, covering her face so she can no longer see Madoka or her sacrifice.
Aren’t spider lilies more closely associated with death...?
What about the clara dolls thowing pomegranates at a sort of Madoka-God image while they scream "Gott ist tot"?
It's the best symbolism ever
@@Ryuvern Thats child's play compared to the rest of the movie lol. Everywhere you look there is symbolism. For instance one of my fav scenes has a lot in it that isn't very noticeable. That scene being Sayaka's talk with Homura. The four different sources of light, the water's reflection of the moon when they mention Madoka, its all on purpose and its fucking amazing
The ost of madoka magic is a masterpiece, I mean wadya expect from the person who made the ost of the beautiful Kara No Kyoukai
It was completely in character for Homura to do what she did. Homura isn't selfish, she basically lives for madoka. As you said, Homura was unhappy about the way things ended in the anime, but she accepted it, despite her own pain, because she thought it was what madoka wanted. In the movie though, Madoka talks to Homura about not wanting to leave them and how it'd break her heart and that she'd never have the courage to do that unless she had no other choice. Madoka didn't really want her fate, she accepted it because she had to. For Homura, who lives for madoka, the next step of action becomes obvious, give madoka the life she truly desires. Homura will always do whatever she believes will make Madoka happiest and she doesn't care about anything else, that's been apparent since the first time she appeared, which is why it always baffles me that people think her actions are out of character. Did they miss that little talk the two had? Did they think it was just there to fill time? No, it was their to justify why a character like Homura would do what she did, and it does so perfectly.
I feel like the point of Homura's character IS that she's incredibly selfish. She did everything for Madoka because she THOUGHT it was what Madoka wanted, but never really stopped to consult Madoka on what she wanted. I always throwback to canon when Homura outright tried to murder a severely depressed Sayaka because she was making Madoka sad. I don't think Madoka would have wanted that. Homura's selfishness is manifested through her wanting Madoka to have a happy, normal life, without truly understanding why the Madoka in the original anime made her wish. After all, in the end Homura separated God Madoka from the Madoka in her memories, despite Madoka pleading with her not to tear her apart. I feel like saying Homura isn't a selfish person takes away an interesting and complex part of her character.
Homura did a Lucifer right there.
I don't think what Homura did was OOC at all. First, it was all based off a misunderstanding. Homura is a completely different person from Madoka. She has a different thought process, and I can believe that Homura could have been completely baffled by Madoka's selfless wish. She wanted to save Madoka above all, the person she loved -- whereas Madoka sacrificed herself largely for complete strangers. The wishes seem similar, but they're really not. Homura didn't understand that Madoka was content with her wish, and when Madoka confessed that being away from her friends would break her heart, that only solidified Homura's belief that Madoka was unhappy. What Homura wanted to do was make Madoka happy, not betray her. Yes, altering someone's memories without their permission is wrong, but the world isn't blank and white. Homura made a world where Madoka is happy with her friends and family, where she doesn't have to bear all the pain of the Magical Girls. In a way, she took on Madoka's burden for her. Remember, she said that all she took from the Law of Cycles was Madoka herself. It could even feasible that the Cycle is functioning, only without Madoka. My parting thought is: In the very end, Madoka is with her family, while Homura is all alone.
...And wow, this is a long-ass comment. Although, with all the other long-ass comments of UA-cam, perhaps it's not too long-ass after all.
There's also the subtle reference. The witch labyrinth the movie took place in is incredibly similar to how the movie ends with essentially the universe becoming Homura's demon labyrinth. And Sayaka says this in regards to the witch labyrinth: "Tell me, is this really so bad? We don't have to fight anyone. We can all live, working together. Is the heart that wished for that so sinful it needs to be destroyed?"
I don't see a reason for Homura's new "reality" being so different from that. Despite calling herself a demon and evil and all the morally questionable things she did, she isn't truely evil. She's more like chaotic good: she'll do whatever it takes to "save" Madoka, even splitting her from her god status and imprisoning her. In the end, she just wants to save madoka and have her live a happy life with her friends and family. The animes ending didn't allow that in the slightest
Its been 2 years but i just had to let you know i think youre completely right. Ppl call homura selfish because of what she did and in a way theyre right, but theyre also very wrong. In a way she made a great sacrifice. She created a world where everyone can be happy except her. She even brought nagisa back to life. Alsooo i just rlly love the foreshadowing. Like the flower scene in rebelllion and even when madoka was talking with her mom about sayaka, her mom told her "make a mistake for her" and when madoka asked if she would know she did it for her sake she said that sometimes they knew and sometimes they didn't. That's exactly what happened.
@Hannah Walker Unfortunately, that interpretation is undermined by the fact that Homura lets out a very cliche "the world is mine!!!" villian laugh at the end. Director should've cut that part out; It was unncessary.
@LiL Speng
FINALLY, THANK GOD I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE THAT THINKS THAT-
@@Danny-zn3nz Not at all. She hates herself, of course she plays into and loves the persona of her being evil in some way
I don't care what anyone says, to me this is one of the best animated movies period. Plus the best Lovecraftian horror I've ever seen with a tragic/arguably bittersweet ending that adds to the horror, once again proving not everything has to have a happy ending to be good
I don't think homura did it for herself. After her wish, her every action was for madoka. Everything she did was for madoka. This is no different.
You just got to look at the flower scene in the movie-you just got to listen to what homura asks, and what madoka replies.
Madoka, point blank, says that she would never be happy with an ending where she leaves everyone behind.
Homura isn't selfish. She's desperate. Everything she's ever done was for her, for her smile, for her to be happy. What else could she have done? Let her stay shattered across the universe forever, distant to be the martyr for magical girls everywhere, without them even knowing?
And maybe a part of it was selfish. Everything she did was for her, after all. To be thrust into a world where it's like she never existed-to be the only one to remember her, after 8-12 years of dedicating your life to her, watching her die, trying anything, anything to save her... maybe she just needed her there again. Maybe she couldn't do it without her there.
She says it herself, in the end-even if she's to become her enemy, she will fight to see her smile, she will love her, still.
Everything she does is for madoka.
And that's the real tragedy here.
It's both really.
Homura has nothing without Madoka. She desperately can't be without her, and she wants her to be happy as well.
@@bobmcbob49 although if she had to die to keep madoka safe she would, as she also gave up her own salvation to keep Madoka safe as well
what's funny tho before rebellion, madokami already exists and she is the one who send nagisa to meet mami in rebellion its explained that nagisa did a lot of dimension warp by madoka's command. And in magia record she specifically said that she is madokami agent to help little kyubey (you) in your goal to stop uwasa sacrificing People, madokami herself would rush to help you from her domain.
I see a lot of people mention that scene but I also wanna point out -
Madoka: I want to ask you to do something only you can do. Homura... you can go back in time, right? You can change history, so that it won't end like this, right?
Homura: Yeah.
Madoka: Then would you go back and save stupid me before I get tricked by Kyubey?
Homura: I swear it! I promise I'll save you! No matter how many times I have to go back and try! I swear, I will protect you!!
Madoka: Thank you...
~ Episode 10, the 3rd timeline's ending.
She's said it before.
Madoka Magica as a whole is underrated as ****. YES UNDERRATED, while anime fans love it almost nobody outside the anime community knows about it
Yeah, something like One Punch Man is 1000x more likely to be mentioned then Madoka Magica, which really sucks.
DuoReview ya either that or SAO and while I love both OPM and SAO its annoying that people see anime as just a compilation of shooty shooty bang bang shows with lots of action and no plot when there are shows like madoka magica and steins gate that are utter masterpieces and works of art
Madoka Magica is already borderline overrated with the amount of "best anime ever" praise it gets. It's definitely above other animes and the animation is outstanding but nowhere near as being a masterpiece. It has glaring issues of its own, both in and out of its story.
@@21minute yeah but do you ever see content for it? Does it have an active fandom? Its one of those animes that everyone loves but no one talks about
@MahouShoujo Maisoon Oh yeah sorry I meant western. I never see people talking about it and no one at my school has ever heard of it. Theres little to no UA-cam videos on it, I just checked Ao3 out of curiosity and its mostly porn/crossovers with other anime. Theres so much discussion to be had over the movie and series but there's very few people who seem interested. The AMVS are amazing though. There are so many high quality ones out there.
I'm hoping that the anime of the game will get the attention of new anime fans who weren't around when Madoka was more popular
I had to look at Rebellion a few more times to really appreciate the ending since I binged watched Madoka Magica and Rebellion in two days. Like you said, both endings had questions that were left unanswered yet the anime gets more praise than the movie. I think people fail to realize that the connection to the movie and anime was going to happen at some point especially after what Kyubey told Homura about how the Incubators were trying to figure out why soul gems vanish rather/the law of cycles. Also, Homura's actions were a necessary evil if you think about it of a situation that was going to be unavoidable if she had simply been saved by Madoka; it probably would have been a bigger betrayal if she had gone with Madoka.
The only thing I disagree with is the betrayal when going with Madoka. Chances are, Madoka probably wouldn't make the same mistake twice. XD
Otherwise yes, I had the same experience. I too had to rewatch it to truly see its genius. =D
DuoReview I only used Betrayal for lack of a better word. Part of me think Madoka could have stopped the Incubators plot to some extent but I feel that it wouldn't really resolve anything in general.
Also, I heard the writer made Rebellion this way because the original ending, from what I've heard somewhere, would have had Madoka take Homura away but he didn't feel satisfied with Rebellion ending like that
It would've been fine, but this ending feels like it had a lot more time and thought put into it. That's why I actually like the ending overall.
DuoReview Same! Madoka Magica has a lot going for it. No matter what happens, it has more that it can go into that I plan on keeping track of even when the concept movie comes out
Dude, I can't wait for the concept movie. Any more Madoka = good as far as I'm concerned. =D
People deeply underestimated Homuras feelings, that scene near the end, where sayaka mentions all the colors and corresponding feelings, as Homura says they are the tip of the iceberg of her emotional state. In addition they underestimate the power in the wording of her wish, the strength to protect Madoka, consider that at no point in the series did she possess such strength, Walpurgisnacht consistently put the smackdown on her.
Both her emotionally driven almost fanatical mentality to protect Madoka (from both Madoka herself and the little devil) and whatever fate she ties her soul to with her wish compel her to do what she did, it's the most in character possibility from everything bubbling up under the surface that people don't seem to see. Homura spends years paying for a wish that doesn't see results until both a series and a movie.
the year is 2020 and this movie is still a masterpiece
Before, I watch this video, I must say that I think rebellion had a awesome ending, I'm sure it has a impact on me. And without this movie Homura would not be the Homura I like.
This movie is gorgeous. and I love the ending. It's twisted, kind of depressing, and has both conflicting and resolving elements. It's not satisfying in the sense of what you want to see happen but satisfying in the way that it's bold and dark and makes sense for what Homura went through and how she changes through the anime. I love the ending.
I completely agree with you on the whole ending. Also I swear over The course of this series you're gonna have a harem of waifus....-pout pout- You're stealing the good ones..
LOL I know right. To be fair though, I'm at least waiting a while before taking each waifu. ;)
DuoReview True True...but..*hugs a Azura bodypillow* this one is mine :/
Well you can have that one then. I'm keeping Megunee and Sayaka. XD
Very well, *Announcer voice* and so..the waifu war begins between the duo and 101 army to capture the best waifus.
LOL I'm only claiming mine after every couple months. It also has to be something I'm committed to. XD
The cake song made me absolutely confused when I first watched it, but yeah the visuals are breathtaking
The cake scene is supposed to confuse the audience hint that something isn't right. I still think it's a stupid scene though.
The cake scene is one of my favorite scenes in the movie
Lmao. The cake scene is "stupid" / "My favorite"
I love Madoka Magica: Rebellion so much, and I will die defending it as a masterpiece.
When I watch the scene where Homura and Mami fight.
And at that moment I knew....
"I have to watch this anime..."
BEST ANIME
I haven't seen a single person on UA-cam talk about this movie in such an intelligent way. This is really refreshing for me as an out-spoken Rebellion lover. :)
Well, glad it sounded intelligent for an idea I came up with on the spot. XD
I honestly never questioned homura's motive for stealing power, if you think about it just a few moments earlier she was essentially a witch, a being of despair. Not to mention she coated the world in a labyrinth, so it just seemed fitting to be a devil of despair rather than a goddess of hope. One thing that does get me though is why the law of cycles didn't get homura way before witch powers would even manifest like the other girls? Unless she was beginning to become one before madoka rewrote the universe since her gem was going dark before madoka made a wish?
I actually really liked the ending with the whole Madoka being Homura's future enemy, it gives me the imgaination of how the rest will play out.
and dibs Kyoko!
So you're claiming Kyoko then? Alright, well I already claimed Sayaka so it's all good. =D
DuoReview Kyoko has always been claimed by me. :3
Well at least you're honest about it. ;)
DuoReview Kyouko* I forget that some people get triggered cus Subs say different. xD
Either way, the idea is the same. =D
I will throw my two cents into this. Homura figured it out in regards to her act towards the ending. Where there is Light there has to be Darkness. Homura wanted to be that Darkness instead of letting someone else taking that personification. I felt it that way on how Homura Addressed Madoka towards the end when they have that last convo in the corridor.
I also agree with that, but I think her motivation was more Madoka than that. That's just my perspective. =D
Glass Reflection: "The ending is always paramount!"
DuoReview: "It's about the journey, not the destination. The ending is NOT paramount"
Two vastly different approaches to deciding how good an anime is, and I'm not sure which I agree with. Although I can't remember the exact explanation Arkada gave, I remember that one to had really good points. Although in this case I do agree that this movie was amazing despite it's off putting ending. Also, I do have to say I like the whole "It's about the journey" as a philosophical approach to enjoying things.
I'll eventually have to make a video explaining my approach, but in essence I don't think a 6-minute section of a 6 hour anime should have any serious impact on the quality. If every bad ending = bad anime, then tons of anime would be terrible despite some fantastic writing beforehand.
I like Arkada, but that's one area where I tend to disagree with his standpoint.
I see, that's a very logical approach, and I do agree with it. I also have a lot of respect for Arkada but I think that personally I believe that a really bad ending *can* ruin an anime experience in a lot of cases, but it doesn't have to. To be honest I think Arkada believes this too actually, even though he stresses in his videos how the ending is always paramount, I think that's just a hyperbole .
Oh I agree, he likely isn't as harsh as he states. Heck, he even did enjoy Rebellion a bit. For me though, it's really difficult to put weight behind something when a lot of shows just have an alright ending. Tons of shows end in the same manner, but that won't stop me from enjoying the show. Much by the same logic, if an anime has a fairly bad ending, it won't effect my opinion unless the ending is done so incredibly bad that it's not only a huge downer, but spits in the face of the viewer. That is why I have a hatred for Charlotte, as it's ending was insulting to me.
So yes, an ending could potentially ruin a series, but it would take something disastrous to do so.
I agree. Although I also think it depends on how the rest of the anime was. If it was a decent anime with a bad ending, I feel that that is a deciding factor in whether you consider it bad or "just ok". Same the other way around with a decent anime with a good ending. This could work in the opposite way as with bad ending ruining a good anime too. I feel a bad anime with a really good ending can turn the anime decent or even good.
It is, of course, an undeniable fact that the ending of any story has a great deal of importance. So it's natural that that importance translates over to reviews of TV, Film, Anime and more. Actually, come to think of it (a little of topic but): I think it takes a lot more to ruin a good story with a bad ending, than it takes to turn a bad story good through a good ending.
I agree with you mostly, but I still believe that endings shouldn't make up 30% of the quality. Most people prioritize the ending over even the animation and soundtrack together.
The ending is brilliant. It completes Homura's arc. If you can think and analyze what's going on you will sure understand Rebellion is actually a true masterpiece. Madoka is associated with the Moon. Homura is associated with sun in this movie. Madoka created a world with Ultimate Hope and Peaceful Death. Homura created a world where everyone has got a moment of ultimate happiness but a fragile one. Madokami still exists - she is just without her human part. When Madoka came for Homura, Homura chose life. Life with a moment of relief and happiness. If she would go with Madoka - it means she would just choose death. She came in terms with herself that she doesn't accept Madokami's world. She thinks it's very sad anda literal nightmare since there is no Madoka she can see and touch.
Absolutely perfect review. Puella Magi as a whole, Rebellion included, is a masterpiece and it means so much to anime, film and art. Frame by frame, Rebellion is like a painting in a way that each moment can be captured, analyzed and admired. I've taken many screenshots from this film simply to emphasize its artistic prowess. The work is so exponentially grandiose, it drives me insane that so many people overlook just how stunning and masterful it truly is. You have nailed what this film means /perfectly/ in this review and I applaud you for that. Because even fans of the series seem to overlook just how breathtakingly elegant Rebellion is. It's tragic and beautiful and filled with the most symbolic of shots and groundbreaking music. The script, the emotion, the acting is all so, so good and I think you're one of the few people who really understand all that Rebellion presents to the viewer. Congratulations, congratulations, congratulations.
I think I liked that moment with the disheveled ass looking Kyubey way too much.
Homura Akemi " I wish I could meet n miss Kaname all over again but this time instead of her protecting me, I want to protect her"
I honestly wonder how Homura's gets view as "out of character", Even ignoring the fact that she did the exact same thing in the anime just with time, instead of space. She even consistently beings up how she should of stop Madoka. almost as if it was building it up or something.
when homura and kyoko attempt to go to kazamino will always be my favorite part. it made everyone now fully realize that something isn't right, and it was so beautifully animated. the part where the people in the labyrinth have drawings of homura and kyoko's faces on them and looking at the two girls always gives me chills.
YES! I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO LIKED THE ENDING!
OR ENJOYED THE ART.
This movie is a masterpiece and i have yet to see someone criticize it negatively and making some sense at the same time.
I think little by little Rebellion is gaining the praise it should have had since the beggining, thanks to people like you.
JaviSS4 Same
Everyone I've seen complain about this movie was for the movie, and then they told me off when I said I loved the animation
"you only love it because it looks pretty"
Yeah...that's why. Not the incredibly well done and memorable ending
I'll say it, I liked the ending. It fit Madoka Magica's tone of always crushing your hopes. And the journey to that ending made the ending more enjoyable for me.
Not enough people talk about Puella Magi
It deserves more attention and praise
Rebellion is a brilliant movie! Very abstract with an ultimate twist. Homura's basically so obsessed with protecting Madoka that she becomes her enemy to keep her happy in a twisted way lol it's due to her deep "love" for Madoka
I always loved the art style this inspired me to get into art
This movie's ending is one of the only things that I've had my opinion changed on by someone else. When I watched it, I hated the ending because I thought it was totally out of character and felt like it was setting out to ruin my favourite character, but after I read some really well thought out opinions on TV Tropes, it brought me around to enjoying it.Also, another great video! It's good to see someone saying that the ending isn't the most important thing. If it was, Future Diary would be the worst thing I'd ever seen, and I really enjoyed it.
People nowadays like to nitpick and hate something because one aspect mildly bothered them. That is truly one of the worst approaches to watching/ enjoying anime since nothing is ever truly perfect.
RonnocFroop
Thank you! Now if only we could get a better video covering Yugioh GX and how it isn't as bad as people like to make it sound
I didn't like the ending at first either, but the more you think about it, the more you start to realise it really does actually make sense for Homura to have done what she did. She's spent years and years trying to save Madoka, and then she sacrafices herself and is forgotten by her friends and family and can never be with them again? How would a person like Homura ever accept that, knowing Madokas fate as the law of cycle didn't make her happy and removed any possibility of her living a normal life?
@@duoreview7492 people can be toxic bitchers about every forms of entertainment
I loved this video, thank you so much for making it! I was one of the people lucky enough to see the movie in theaters when it first came out. I cosplayed Mami when I went, and met a lot of really nice people who were as in love with the series as I was (and still am). No one really knew what to expect for the movie, but everyone was very excited to see it.
The beginning scene was gorgeous and enthralling. It pulled me in and made me feel as if I were a part of it. The opening song that played was sweet, but with an undertone of gloominess and eventually heartbreak, when Homura reaches for Madoka and she turns to sand. The animation and the aesthetics were so absolutely beautiful and breathtaking that I felt like I was living in some sort of dream. During many of these stunning scenes, gasps of surprise or amazement would escape from the audience, and when the ending was revealed and the lights came on once more, there was a moment of complete silence before screams were heard around the room. People were experiencing so many different emotions, including myself, who was just silent and had tears running down my face. I have never seen a movie that had this sort of reaction on the audience before. It was so absolutely moving, beautiful, heartbreaking, sweet, and tragic that it touched the hearts of everyone in the room. It is so underrated and overlooked, but it truly is a work of art, and I am glad that I found your video and heard your thoughts on it as well :)
Great review of a fantastic movie! I especially liked your insightful comments about the foreshadowing inherent in the artwork throughout the first part.
Yeeees!!! Amazing art style and development, it really deserves more recognition. Truly genius
Thank you. I love the puella magi madoka series but it definitely didnt get the recognition if deserved. So I'm glad you've made a video about it. From the bottom of my heart, thankyou ❤
Thank you for making videos they bring me so much joy
I'm glad you enjoy my videos then! =D
I'm really glad that someone else is appreciating everything else about the movie and not just one tiny detail. Its really relieving and I liked the review :D
I binge watched the series and movie because of you and wanted to thank you from m whole heart. It's amazing.
Thank you! I absolutely love this series, its about time someone shone light on one of my favourite series. :)
Well I'm glad the video was worth it for you. =D
Ahh!! Thank Youu :"D
Everything that i would say about this movie. Put into a video. Well done duo. Well said.
Thank you for this video--you absolutely nailed it! I know I'm going out on a limb here, but in my opinion, Madoka Magica Rebellion is the greatest anime film ever made. Everything about it is breathtaking, from the concept to the stunning visuals. I especially adore the wealth of cultural references that pop up out of nowhere, adding glimmers of humor even to the most intensive battle scenes. It's a incomparable masterpiece --and it's a joy to see such an intelligent, well-thought-out review. And as you've said, the ending actually IS in character for Homura, and makes complete sense. Thank you so much for this thoughtful and entertaining video!
Your videos are very well structured and easy to understand even for me and I am from Germany. Love your videos! Keep it lit and grow big.
Thanks! Glad you enjoy them! =D
It was SUCH a great movie!! Beautiful artistic insanity is a great description. I really just want to see another season though!!
Finally the Rebellion review I’ve been looking for
Thank you. THANK YOU. I've been waiting so long to actually hear good things about this movie, and while I still have mixed feelings about the ending, I love this movie and it's about time someone defended it
This is the best Rebellion Review I have seen so far!
The ending was perfect!!! I absolutely love it!!! I think the ending represent what happen when you live in pain for so long... you get broke; that's what happen to Homura, She get broken after so much suffering; is so psychologist, is so dark, is so beautiful and perfect. I'm waiting for a second movie!!! :D
I remember the moment where I finally noticed exactly when Madoka slipped into the world, after about 10 watchings! I was like, OMG THERE SHE IS!
My favourite review of rebellion def!! Its focusing on the things i love about the movie instead of the open ending and im so glad to see it all being acknowledged ;w;
Thank you for making me feel better about this movie. Everything you said make sense now.
Rebellion has become one of my favorite movies of all time, not only did it somehow manage to connect a movie and anime so fluently, but the visual is so gorgeous and the multilayered plot that made the anime great. While I had a hard time accepting the ending for awhile, I’ve come to realize that it makes sense in hindsight. The only problem I really have with the ending is that it basically just leaves a sequel hook and basically retcons all of the anime series
Madoka Magica Rebellion is such a diamond in the rough and I really feel like more people should know of it
Ok but i think we can all agree that this movie felt like a complete feverdream
I watched this for the first time last week following the series right before. Just super awestruck over the arts and visuals, the complicated storylines, and character development. It's not my fav anime, but is def in my top 5
Not sure if anyone is actually watching the comment section for a video this old anymore but I'll go ahead and leave my two cents anyways. There are *spoilers* for the ending of the movie below.
I totally agree with your assessment of both the movie as a whole, and the ending as well. Rebellion is a gorgeous film all the way through, and it's a shame that the people that don't like the series tend to focus so hard on the ending. Rebellion is even more dense with symbolism and allegory than the original series, which is pretty impressive considering how high of a bar the series had already set. As far as the music is concerned, for the most part I prefer the soundtrack of the original series, but Rebellion had some pretty memorable tracks as well. Yuki Kajiura overall makes some pretty amazing music, but at least for me the Madoka Magica franchise has been a shining example of her talent even among the rest.
I think that the way people judge the ending of the movie can be pretty unfair sometimes. People will say the ending wasn't built up enough, but I think the only flaw in this regard is that the hints that were there were too subtle. They'll say that Homura's new form wasn't explained at all and that it came out of left field, but if you pay enough attention to the context clues leading into that scene you can figure out what happened for yourself. The thing is, like the series before it, Rebellion is meant to be watched multiple times if you want to get full enjoyment out of it, because many things in the movie only make sense with additional context from later scenes, or require actual mental effort to work through.
They will say that Homura's "character development" was thrown out the window, ignoring the fact that Homura fought the ending of the series right up to the moment where she was tossed into Madoka's new world, and that she "accepted" Madoka's sacrifice only because she was forced to. Never mind the fact that the entire theme of Homura's character has been that she forever goes in circles, never moving forward. You could argue that Madoka's new world was meant to break these nasty cycles, but we were shown through Sayaka's death in the new world that such isn't the case, and wouldn't apply to Homura anyways because she is a leftover from the old order of things. If anything, I would say it would have been more out of character for Homura to just lay down and do nothing when an opportunity to "save" Madoka presents itself. Homura was broken before she ever met Madoka, and her adoration of Madoka as a person gave her a purpose in life once she realized that Madoka was doomed. Homura was reforged into a new person through her goal to save Madoka, and the harsh reality she had to suffer through in the pursuit of that goal, so to expect her to just lay that aside is pure folly. This is even referenced in Homura's monologue in the ending of the series, where she states that the world isn't worth saving, but because Madoka wanted to protect it she would continue fighting. It's true that Homura's actions at the end of Rebellion were not morally correct, because you cannot use someone's intentions to justify their actions, as there lies a very slippery slope. That said, Homura remains my favorite anime character, and if I were into the whole waifu thing it would probably be her, because someone needs to look out for that girl. Also, Madoka Magica remains my favorite fictional franchise with the Fate/Stay Night franchise coming in second, and nothing really coming close to usurping those two.
This discussion video is so great. The rebellion movie is my favourite movie and i found that you summed up all my favourite aspects.
Well, I'm glad to know I'm not alone in thinking these things. I made this video in the hopes that people can realize how actually amazing this movie is. =D
+DuoReview Just asking if you've read the visual novel "Saya no Uta". It's written by the same person as madoka magica. It's my favourite story, as it explores the depths of insanity and presents very dark and morally questioning themes. Could you please do a video on it if you have, or will read it in the future?
I'll look into that, since it sounds interesting. A video may or may not happen though, as I do need to focus a bit on videos that get views for a bit. I've avoided mainstream aime for too long, so now I need to do a bit more. XD
It has been really long since this video but I just wanted to speak my mind. I absolutely adore rebellion and I think it's an amazing movie. People don't like it because it has a sad ending, but I've always loved tragedies, and that's who Homura is. I also don't think what she did was off character at all. It had been foreshadow during the flower scene, and even in the anime when Madoka is talking with her mom about 'her friend that keeps trying to do what's right', meaning Sayaka, her mom told her to "make a mistake for her". When Madoka asked her if she would know that she did it for her sake, her mom told her that often they didn't. That's what Homura did. She did something that in the eyes of the others was terrible, a huge mistake, for Madoka's sake. This, however, could be seen as selfish. People could see it as she bringing down this incredible hope just because she wants to be with Madoka, but I think that what Homura did wasn't selfish at all. In a way, she made a huge sacrifice. She turned into something dark and obscure because of Madoka, pulling her from the Law of Cycles. It's stated, however, that the law still is in place. Madoka is just not it anymore. So Homura made a world in which everyone, even Nagisa, could be happy. She made a world in which everyone could be happy except for her. And for that, she will have to fight Madoka sometime. She's now her enemy, the enemy of the one she loves so much. It just breaks my heart, and I'm sure it breaks Homura's too.
Awesome video, I love it! Exactly how I feel
When I watched the last episode of Madoka Magica I was really disappointed by the ending. Then 4 years later I hear that a movie was made to rap up the series. I was so excited but I kept hearing people say how horrible the ending was. Then I actually watched it and was like okay when did it go bad? Sure I had this weird feeling about the movie but I genuinely enjoyed it.
Honestly, the ending was just disliked by a lot of people for minor reasons. I didn't mind it though.
Nice video.
Ever since I watched the series, I keep finding new reason that makes me more and more in love with the series.
Now excuse me, I have to watch Rebellion again. :)
I think it's a wonderful movie but I think most people were confused by the movie in general cause the speaking scenes are paced really fast and don't give you enough time to fully take in the facts and think about it. It's weird how the movie focuses on Homura the whole time but in truth it's about her friends figuring out something is wrong and saving her from her soul gem it's what happens in the background of this movie that really matters.
Great review. I also can't wait for the sequel.
My opinion of Rebellion hasn't changed since my first viewing. I loved all of it then, and I still do. It's easily one of my all time favorite films, and deserves all the praise it gets.
i legit felt my eyes sparkle throughout this movie.. it's a masterpiece
Thank you for this video. Thank you.
Honestly, I'd rather have something appreciated by a few who understand it over something everyone can get behind. It allows for a point to be made in more relatable means then something broad. Madoka Magica is subtle in its theme, but has incredible depth in that sublety. It's works of art like these that make "looking past the shell" so appealing.
I'll admit when I first saw this movie I was PISSED at the ending but I never thought it was out of character for Homura to do what she did. She was obsessed with Madoka and especially after everything she went through to save her, Madoka just sacrifices herself, for the good of others mind you, but to Homura it's like what the hell? After watching it a couple of times now, I think this movie is a masterpiece.
Ah yes, my favourite film. Watched it half a dozen times and I see new aspects and symbolism in every viewing and there are others I noticed but haven't been able to figure out yet on top of those. I love this film's symbolic density.
Also in complete agreement. Every time I re-watch it I notice other hints and symbolism and it pushes me to learn more like what the Spider Lily means. I'm an illustrator and this movie is so gorgeous and full of meaning it inspires me to do better work.
I loved the ending too. I think a lot of people didn't understand Homura but I loved her more after this. She had a love so deep even the pain from it is a precious thing, her testament of love (the time she spent trying to save Madoka) became part of her. She would rather die with that pain, knowing what it may lead to, than let Madoka free her from it. She meant it when she begged to die.
Homura was never in this for anyone else but protecting Madoka she loved. She twisted the world just so they can exist together again and protect her. She knows it's selfish but it's also an act of deep, deep love.
Art isn't always made to make viewers happy, it's supposed to tell a story. Madoka Magicka is about understanding morality and human nature, subjects that tread dark territory. In the 3rd movie I wouldn't underestimate any of these characters and the Incubators finally know suffering can't of made them better.
Great video!!! :D I LOVE Rebellion!!!!! It's an animated masterpiece and I can't wairt for the sequel movie!!!!!
Glad to see someone talking about the amazing soundtracks and how little the opening and ending themes are talked about! Honestly, I find it a bit annoying that those theme tracks (and the lyrics at times) are so easily ignored when oftentimes the lyrics offer really amazing insight to the storyline.
Yuki Kajiura, the absolute genius composer made all the tracks, and she's the one that wrote and composed several songs that appear in the anime (as well as the movie), and I love the way her lyrics give a deeper insight to the mystery that is our girl Homura.
The guard who wants to protect your childish slumber
Keeps the gate to adulthood tightly closed
- Kimi no Gin no Niwa (by Kalafina, composed by, again, Yuki Kajiura)
These two lines hit the hardest to me when I went back to listen to this song after watching the movie.
AMAZING!
Also, #HomuraDidNothingWrong
Thank god I clicked on this video, there's almost no people on youtube talking about the quality of this movie just because of its ending or their misunderstanding/excuse of it as a whole. you are so damn right about most of the things you bring up on the video that I may have to finally check out the Disappearance of Haruhi just because of your judgment on these movies.
To me, Rebellion is probably the best anime movie ever and I have seen it easily over 50 times. with this and your Saitama as a character video, you totally got me.
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good video. So true. Also, the thing is called Kotatsu.
I know a lot (and i mean a lot) about madoka magica but you are very correct these movies are worth a look and i think they might be makeing another one because of the fact that all the characters have a future, but i do think its a shame that we cant watch these movies unless we buy them i dont even think you can buy them on youtube ill have to check.
I loved the whole movie.
couldnt said it any better! Bravooo
This is my favorite movie, thank you for acknowledging how beautiful it is.
I actually loved the ending. Homura wasn't even all that selfish - in the beginning she was fully supportive of Madoka's decision and wanted to protect it. She changes her mind when Madoka tells her in the flower field that she could never do something like what Homura described because it would break her heart. That's when Homura becomes convinced that she failed in protecting Madoka and that she shouldn't have accepted the anime ending. If all Homura wanted was to be with Madoka, she would have just let herself be taken by the Law of Cycles. She did what she did for Madoka - because Madoka said she didn't want to be apart from her friends and family.
Also cause she's a crazy bitch. God I love her.
My friends and I watched this when it first came out, and it feels like a labyrinth in all of our minds. It was such "artistic insanity" indeed, that I was so overwhelmed I can't make a practical picture of it in my mind.
Does that make sense? It was so godly crazy that it made the mind go brrrrrr
About to rewatch it now!
indeed, i don't see many channels talk about anime movies as often as they could. there's plenty of goods ones.
the ending of the movie initially left me with mixed feelings.
i just wasn't sure how to feel about it.
after thinking about it for a while. i love the ending and i don't consider it breaking homuras character.
as for how many times she repeated timelines. i forgot what the source was. but apparently she went through it 100 times.
even if it wasn't that much it would have to be at least 20+ because of that 1 scene with madoka tied up with strings each indicate a timeline homura erased.
it's sad that some think this is a poorly written series.
still fans seriously should read all of the mangas related to the madoka universe and if possible the PSP VN
as the characters become even much better and deeper then with just the anime. so they are missing out.
I agree with you completely. This movie did initially leave me with mixed feelings, but after rewatching I realized how amazing it truly is.
Also, where would you find the translated PSP game? I'd really like to know. XD
Well thank you. I'm going to check it out later today then. =D
I would love to read the Madoka mangas but they aren't commercialized where i live. I already read those i can find scans of.
They have normal versions where I live. At least I'm pretty sure. XD
games and stuff like that i order online.
I actually adored the movie, many moments made me cry, including the ending where homura hugs madoka to keep her from figuring out the truth.
Rebellion is probably my favourite movie (animated or not) ever. Every damn moment give me chills. You can pause at any moment and the scenery will have meaningfull symbolism. This is both a masterpiece of art and of storytelling.
I agree, i truly loved the movie as a brilliant masterpiece in plot, character, and art! And it truly captures the insanity of homura that many shows and movies have a hard time capturing!
I agree with you man! :) The movie was absolutely great! I really hope to see a 4th one in a few years!
The rebellion pun made me both cringe and laugh at the same time, but I loved that you talked about this beautiful movie and how much it needs more Appreciation on its beautiful story Line and it's amazing art. I loved that you talked about one of my most favourite movies, even if it can make you think too hard about it, also Kyouko and Sayaka's personalities are too different from the show, but I like it how they are better friends. But more the story is about Homora but I won't say anymore, people who haven't seen it should watch the show and then watch this amazing movie ❤️️
It is such a fantastic film, and I'm tired of all the hate it recieves. I'm glad to see I'm not alone in liking this movie. =D
DuoReview SAME 😭😭 it hurts me when people do that!
I agree. XD
the trippy animation is done by Gekidan Inu Curry, their work is truly breathtaking and the madoka series as a whole wouldn’t be the same without them !
I love the ending!
I like how it darkly mirrors the ending of the show.
First,i think youre absolutely right,next to Disapearancethis is also another forgotten Masterpiece,i enjoyed it so much for all of it...not a lot of them are so artisticaly so brilliant and well written.Im trying right now to connect the dots with Magia Record,watching 2nd season,cause i want to understand what will be leading up to the 4th upcoming Madoka Movie.As for Homura....she is absolutely right...to have gone through so much hardship mentally....she is absolutely right to flip like that...i mean call it unhealty obsession...but she went through so much giving to Madoka...it was time she broke the cycle.
Cheers to everything Madoka!Cheers to the upcoming movie!
I don’t get why people think this was out of character for Homura. In the series she was obsessed with Madoka, she started over and over. So that she could get Madoka a happy ending- so she could protect her. But started to want to keep Madoka to herself, she found anything else other then her and Madoka a threat. In the ending- she’s just accepting those feelings and finally achieving her goal. Keeping Madoka to herself, keeping her happy, and most importantly out of harms way
I think this movie is absolutely fantastic. I would say it is one of my favorite movies of all time. Every time I watch it it leaves an Impact that no other movie has ever done.
Madoka: I want to ask you to do something only you can do. Homura... you can go back in time, right? You can change history, so that it won't end like this, right?
Homura: Yeah.
Madoka: Then would you go back and save stupid me before I get tricked by Kyubey?
Homura: I swear it! I promise I'll save you! No matter how many times I have to go back and try! I swear, I will protect you!!
Madoka: Thank you...
Homura then has to kill Madoka to stop her from turning into a witch.
~ Episode 10, the 3rd timeline's ending.
That's when she becomes the Homura we see through the rest of the series and isn't Moemura anymore.
I don't know why people never acknowledge this when they call Homura selfish? This is Madoka, the real Madoka. Not the one in rebellion, who some argue was just a figment of Homura's imagination. She _wanted_ to be saved. Homura did stuff that was amoral and wrong, but it started due to Madoka's own "wish". It wasn't just her being obsessive or over-protective. She didn't even want her for herself. She just wanted to save and protect Madoka, even at the cost of her own happiness.
Fantastic Video. Thx.
I finally watched the movie after watching the original TV broadcast in 2011, and I have no idea how this ending (or honestly any other part of the movie) is seen as controversial - it makes perfect sense with the world and characters. As you said, Homura was never going to be happy with the world Madoka created, and even her own emotions aside it was clear both from the beginning, and increasingly so through the movie, that it did not solve the core issue but worked purely as a bandaid, pushing off the inevitable in that the incubators would still try to find a way to squeeze as much life and energy out of the universe as they could.
Honestly, I couldn't have seen how this would have ended up better and more characteristic of the series. People say the beginning was "fan service", yet completely miss that right off the bat, it's clear things are fundamentally wrong - the art, the witch creatures in the world, the strange tone. The fucking OPENING SONG SEQUENCE. You really have got to not be paying attention to absolutely anything to miss all these giveaways.
I guess I should be fair and consider that many people do not watch movies the way that I have with this, though. It's not popcorn fodder or background entertainment, and it was never meant to be - but again, I think that should be clear to anyone who's watched the original. Maybe you need to have a specific reading of the original and its ending to really appreciate this movie (which honestly, I found *very* unsatisfying due to the sheer disregard for Homura and the bandaid-y nature of Madoka's wish), but I just can't wrap my head around how someone could enjoy (or "get") one but not the other.
It's great, no less complete or well thought-out than the original and it drives home the point that all actions have unforeseen consequences that need being dealt with, which I think was a huge point of the original series. I do hope we'll get a fourth one to see a better ending and resolution for the universe and characters, I'm just strongly opposed to the idea that this doesn't make any sense, or needs "fixing".
Definitely my favourite anime movie of all time, handedly, even over Disappearance - though I'm much more invested in this story and universe, so there is that.
yay! Someone else who loves the movie! The aesthtics are amazing! And the story! The visuals are also fnatastic! I thought I'm the only one who appreciated the rest of the movie and didn't focus on the ending
It's truly an underrated movie. Sad it never gets appreciation from other UA-camrs.
DuoReview Yeah, it's a shame. At least there are still some people who liked it.
Rebellion is one of my favorite things ever. Visually stunning and a logical progression of the infinite dichotomies of the magical girls