The M 240 sensor provides IMO the closest color gamut to traditional film. One big reason why I will keep the M 240. The CV 28/2 is a bit of hidden gem in the Voigtlander line but great lens which I also use both for film and digital. The M8 is great to use for IR shooting - no conversion is needed just a simple IR filter on the lens. Unfortunately the later Leica M monochrome cameras do not have this capability anymore. The M 240 actually works quite well with longer exposure time for IR, too. Biggest culprit of the M8 is IMO the cropped sensor - I am personally a fan of full frame, but this is just personal preference. Have fun with the M8 :)!
I can relate with your Leica journey. I started out with an M8 which I bought in 2008 and still have. It's a wonderful camera - the CCD is quite special in it's own right. I then picked up an M240 in 2019 and it's a pleasure to use for different reasons. But much like you, I do find the CCD images a bit more special. I just wish Leica still used the CCD sensor with 24MP. But that's nit picking - the M8 and M240 are quite the tools, and fortunately nowadays more affordable than the astronomical M10 series. If you can, consider investing into the Leical M lenses. They are expensive, but are truly investments. All the Leica M lenses I purchased over the years have all appreciated in value, something I've never experienced with all the other camera systems I've owned. But regardless of that, the Leica lenses really do have a magical quality to them. They literally are what makes shooting M cameras phenomenal.
Excellent idea. I also love my M8 and keep it forever. I added a M9-P a couple of years later and there‘s nothing more I need regarding a digital M. These are perfect tools. Mine are both silver chrome as my M5 and M4 and all the Leitz lenses I own from the late fifties and early sixties.
I had an M8 for almost a decade. It is an amazing camera and very capable once you are used to the (small) limitations! I sold mine to get an M9. I still think the colors from the M8 sensor are nicer than the M9. Thanks for the great video!
I love the Leica M8 the Black and White JPEGs from it are amazing. I typically use either a 50mm Summicron or the Voigtländer 35mm Nokton Single Coated. I just nabbed a Ricoh GR 28mm LTM lens (with the adapter) for it too but haven’t had time to test out that lens for it. I highly recommend the Voigtländer though. Colors looks great with it. It isn’t super sharp but it really makes the M8 have a film like feel to the photos. Edit because autocorrect hates the work Summicron
The M240 is probably the best Leica M which normal money can buy. The IQ is top notch, even today and the sensor produces very film like gaumet. I have used film for over 45 years and still do, so i know wht normal film looks like in print. The M8 is excellent for B&W photography, if you prefer a certain look. The best senario was to keep the M240 and then get the M8 for B&W .
Hahahaa.. I just sold my M240 also! Just replaced it with M10. Btw, I think you replacing yours with an M8 is a good idea, I started with an M9 myself. The CCD is beautiful! We love what we love, can't let other people tell you other wise. Hope you have a great time with it :)
I have the mp-240 and had the m9 (ccd sensor). I was worried about the m9 sensor corosion so I sold it after it had a check up. I ended up buying a summicron 50mm current version with the money and then shot film for a few years on my m3 and m6. I still shoot film but I can honestly say I am enjoying the smooth film profile in camera on the mp240. Additionally I think the shutter sound was cool on the m9 and M8 but I prefer the more silent more modern shutter on the 240 and up. I have never tried the m8 however. I feel the extra stop shutter speed would be nice for portraits especially with the crop factor. Also do a review of that lens! I have always liked the look of it and since they just came out with a new version, the older 28 ultron will go down in price! Great video!
I´m also thinking about buying my first digital leica, have my eyes on the m262 but the price is still too high for a good body. I was also thinking about the m8, than the m9 and the m240.....Some how I like looking and comparing between all these different models but at the end you are right: you can always sell or trade your current camera and you can buy a new / old one that fits your need. For now I will keep looking for good options to buy here in Germany. lets see ; )
I have an M8.2 and an M9 and think the M8.2 does have slightly better color and the B&W is quite good. It has limitations but is great in its sweet spot.
Hey I just ran across this channel of yours. Another michigander here! Do you still have your M8??? I'm looking at getting one too? just gotta find a decent one.
I have an M8 and I love it, also bought 1.4x magnifier ho help focus with 90mm and 50mm (I have a 7artisans 1.1). also got a couple of extra batteries, but would love another charger, as the origimal is HUGE... do you have any idea where I can get a travel charger for it and what model?
I went from an M9 to a 240, not missing the M9 one bit, the shooting experience is 1000x times better with the 240, the “magical” ccd rendering is not enough to make up for the quirks of these older bodies. I feel as though my 240 shots look almost identical if not more filmic to the M9.
Eric Apparently you didnt listen to your wife when you had her in one of your videos when she commented about your purchasing and selling equipment. I will wait to comment about your latest purchase after you've used it for a couple months. :) Best wishes Duane
I have to admit, I was wrong. I thought you would immediately go for the m10, but you went in a different direction completely! Good luck on your search for the perfect one. It’s not easy.
Thanks! I think, given the Leica isn’t a one-and-done camera and the fact I like the CCD colors and B&W, this is the right camera for art making. If I get more proficient with the rangefinder I could end up with an M10 one day but for now it’s an S5 + M8
...so a month ago the 240 was your dream camera... ...you trade it for the m8 for the reasons of needing faster focus.... which the m8 doesn’t alleviate....
Great video as always. Been following you for a few months now and I think you will finish up with a Leica M10-P. I have been round the houses with Leica over the past 2 years and its cost me!! Started with M240, then went to the silver M240-P and after about 6 months went to the M10. The M10 was a very good upgrade, especially in terms of OOC JPG and ISO. Then just 2 weeks ago I was seduced by a used M10-P. I wanted to love the Fuji Xpro 3 but somehow it doesn't engage me like a Leica does. I used to be anti-Leica, thinking it was just for the people with more money than sense. However as soon as I went to the Leica store in London and held an M10 I knew no other camera would feels that wa, its build and simplicity is awe-inspiring. I also have a Sony A7R III but (whilst it has many benefits) it feels like a computer with a lens attached. Great channel and I look fwd to your review next year of the M10-P :) Ian (UK)
Hope the sensor lasts for you! I looked into buying but found out the sensors on the M8 are on the way out, and over £2000 for a fix. Great video on it here: ua-cam.com/video/W7TvsQrwCAE/v-deo.html The M8 is such a nice camera, although I would have pushed for an M9 with a replaced sensor instead.
Photography hobbyist ; gear enthusiast… If I’m being honest, this was just a tweak on the kit. Between the GR, S5, and now M8, I’m satisfied. Just need a longer lens for the S5.
The M 240 sensor provides IMO the closest color gamut to traditional film. One big reason why I will keep the M 240. The CV 28/2 is a bit of hidden gem in the Voigtlander line but great lens which I also use both for film and digital. The M8 is great to use for IR shooting - no conversion is needed just a simple IR filter on the lens. Unfortunately the later Leica M monochrome cameras do not have this capability anymore. The M 240 actually works quite well with longer exposure time for IR, too. Biggest culprit of the M8 is IMO the cropped sensor - I am personally a fan of full frame, but this is just personal preference. Have fun with the M8 :)!
I can relate with your Leica journey. I started out with an M8 which I bought in 2008 and still have. It's a wonderful camera - the CCD is quite special in it's own right. I then picked up an M240 in 2019 and it's a pleasure to use for different reasons. But much like you, I do find the CCD images a bit more special. I just wish Leica still used the CCD sensor with 24MP. But that's nit picking - the M8 and M240 are quite the tools, and fortunately nowadays more affordable than the astronomical M10 series. If you can, consider investing into the Leical M lenses. They are expensive, but are truly investments. All the Leica M lenses I purchased over the years have all appreciated in value, something I've never experienced with all the other camera systems I've owned. But regardless of that, the Leica lenses really do have a magical quality to them. They literally are what makes shooting M cameras phenomenal.
Excellent idea. I also love my M8 and keep it forever. I added a M9-P a couple of years later and there‘s nothing more I need regarding a digital M. These are perfect tools. Mine are both silver chrome as my M5 and M4 and all the Leitz lenses I own from the late fifties and early sixties.
I had an M8 for almost a decade. It is an amazing camera and very capable once you are used to the (small) limitations! I sold mine to get an M9. I still think the colors from the M8 sensor are nicer than the M9. Thanks for the great video!
Leica already stopped the CCD sensor for M8. So in 2024, will it still be a good choice?
I love the Leica M8 the Black and White JPEGs from it are amazing.
I typically use either a 50mm Summicron or the Voigtländer 35mm Nokton Single Coated. I just nabbed a Ricoh GR 28mm LTM lens (with the adapter) for it too but haven’t had time to test out that lens for it.
I highly recommend the Voigtländer though. Colors looks great with it. It isn’t super sharp but it really makes the M8 have a film like feel to the photos.
Edit because autocorrect hates the work Summicron
G.A.S. legend
Should I rename this channel to “G.A.S. attack”?
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The M240 is probably the best Leica M which normal money can buy. The IQ is top notch, even today and the sensor produces very film like gaumet. I have used film for over 45 years and still do, so i know wht normal film looks like in print. The M8 is excellent for B&W photography, if you prefer a certain look. The best senario was to keep the M240 and then get the M8 for B&W .
Hahahaa.. I just sold my M240 also! Just replaced it with M10. Btw, I think you replacing yours with an M8 is a good idea, I started with an M9 myself. The CCD is beautiful! We love what we love, can't let other people tell you other wise. Hope you have a great time with it :)
I have the mp-240 and had the m9 (ccd sensor). I was worried about the m9 sensor corosion so I sold it after it had a check up. I ended up buying a summicron 50mm current version with the money and then shot film for a few years on my m3 and m6. I still shoot film but I can honestly say I am enjoying the smooth film profile in camera on the mp240. Additionally I think the shutter sound was cool on the m9 and M8 but I prefer the more silent more modern shutter on the 240 and up. I have never tried the m8 however. I feel the extra stop shutter speed would be nice for portraits especially with the crop factor. Also do a review of that lens! I have always liked the look of it and since they just came out with a new version, the older 28 ultron will go down in price! Great video!
Bold step, to go ‘back’ to the M8. Missing my M9 after upgrading to the M10. Nice relaxed vid 👍
I´m also thinking about buying my first digital leica, have my eyes on the m262 but the price is still too high for a good body. I was also thinking about the m8, than the m9 and the m240.....Some how I like looking and comparing between all these different models but at the end you are right: you can always sell or trade your current camera and you can buy a new / old one that fits your need. For now I will keep looking for good options to buy here in Germany. lets see ; )
try to get the 262- I got both... the M8 for soul - 262 for soul and photography....
I have an M8.2 and an M9 and think the M8.2 does have slightly better color and the B&W is quite good. It has limitations but is great in its sweet spot.
I have the M8 with a Voightlander Ultron 35mm F2. It brings back all the pleasure of photography. Might get an M9 as a 2nd at some point.
Hey I just ran across this channel of yours. Another michigander here! Do you still have your M8??? I'm looking at getting one too? just gotta find a decent one.
No I don’t. I buy and sell cameras often. I have a Leica MP right now. Tried the M8, M240, M262, and M10
I have an M8 and I love it, also bought 1.4x magnifier ho help focus with 90mm and 50mm (I have a 7artisans 1.1). also got a couple of extra batteries, but would love another charger, as the origimal is HUGE... do you have any idea where I can get a travel charger for it and what model?
I went from an M9 to a 240, not missing the M9 one bit, the shooting experience is 1000x times better with the 240, the “magical” ccd rendering is not enough to make up for the quirks of these older bodies. I feel as though my 240 shots look almost identical if not more filmic to the M9.
Great Camera! Use a M8 with a 7artisans 28mm 1.4 and love it
Hihi.... Need help. W/c should I buy?
1。 leicaT＋VN 40mm F 1.4 = USD830
2. X2 = USD490
3. X113 = USD980
Street photography ❤️ Thanks!
I should’ve bet. You sold the Leica within 30 days…
Eric
Apparently you didnt listen to your wife when you had her in one of your videos when she commented about your purchasing and selling equipment.
I will wait to comment about your latest purchase after you've used it for a couple months. :)
Best wishes
Duane
Nice Michigander chairs... I have been looking at an M8 as my first Leica/Rangefinder monochrome... Thanks
Stay tuned. All M8 starting in 3 days for a bit
I had it as well for few months. Very nice camera to have as Leica. You might need IR cut filter, if not already.
Mine shows up today
I have to admit, I was wrong. I thought you would immediately go for the m10, but you went in a different direction completely! Good luck on your search for the perfect one. It’s not easy.
Thanks! I think, given the Leica isn’t a one-and-done camera and the fact I like the CCD colors and B&W, this is the right camera for art making. If I get more proficient with the rangefinder I could end up with an M10 one day but for now it’s an S5 + M8
@@ericrjennings What do you think about large format for art making? Full control of everything, and really process oriented. Good for the spirit.
Too much to lug around.
@@ericrjennings Noooo! For the love of the art!
There’s a landscape guy I follow that shoots everything on large format film. His pack is huge
I shoot only b/w with my M240 and I like it very much
This is well known. Great black and whites are fab
(youll love the Voigtländer Ultron 35 1.7 VM. Got it in my Fuji. Awesome Sharp lense).
‘Niche’ is pronounced like ‘Neesh’, it’s not ‘Nitch’. Don’t know if this is an americanism or not?
I thought I said “nish” … but you know… tomatoe tomahto… potatoe potahto… milk melk…
My M9 is the Leica sweet spot for me. Best stills camera for me ever. Inspirational. Cheers
Sold my M240 for an M9!
...so a month ago the 240 was your dream camera...
...you trade it for the m8 for the reasons of needing faster focus.... which the m8 doesn’t alleviate....
No. Fast focusing isn’t a thing on a Leica so it’s a non issue.
Great video as always. Been following you for a few months now and I think you will finish up with a Leica M10-P. I have been round the houses with Leica over the past 2 years and its cost me!! Started with M240, then went to the silver M240-P and after about 6 months went to the M10. The M10 was a very good upgrade, especially in terms of OOC JPG and ISO. Then just 2 weeks ago I was seduced by a used M10-P. I wanted to love the Fuji Xpro 3 but somehow it doesn't engage me like a Leica does. I used to be anti-Leica, thinking it was just for the people with more money than sense. However as soon as I went to the Leica store in London and held an M10 I knew no other camera would feels that wa, its build and simplicity is awe-inspiring. I also have a Sony A7R III but (whilst it has many benefits) it feels like a computer with a lens attached. Great channel and I look fwd to your review next year of the M10-P :) Ian (UK)
I completely agree and I could see it
There is only one reason to sell a M240 to get a M8, to save money. I think it is an insane move.
M240 was too fat IMO
How are you enjoying the Leica m8? I love this camera, I’ve had the m8.2 for over a decade now and taken it to most continents. Absolutely love it.
I ultimately sold it because I need a hybrid camera and Af but if I come across more money in the future I want to get another M body. I loved my M8
Hope the sensor lasts for you! I looked into buying but found out the sensors on the M8 are on the way out, and over £2000 for a fix. Great video on it here: ua-cam.com/video/W7TvsQrwCAE/v-deo.html The M8 is such a nice camera, although I would have pushed for an M9 with a replaced sensor instead.
If sensor gone buy a new used one :)
@@dennisbrandtfoto Then you might as well buy an M9 with a replaced sensor. Better camera, and would cost the same as 2 M8s
@@tomarber6488 had ff Cameras for my Jobs the M8 is only for fun and slow down a bit.
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Oh Boy, you need help:D
Photography hobbyist ; gear enthusiast…
If I’m being honest, this was just a tweak on the kit. Between the GR, S5, and now M8, I’m satisfied. Just need a longer lens for the S5.
What a downgrade. Super
Wanna buy it?