There are many things i learned watching videos of Mr. Jacque Fresco. Utmost Respect & admiration for this person. Thank you all who continue building up on his work. Expecting more documentaries of such elegance.
@@LovingTinha not far, it’s here. And what do you mean “we” - f*ck the nihilism. Nobody will stop this inevitability. There’s two new world orders The evil one and this. This one is victorious. No need to predict, wait what happens, fear for martial law...it’s game over
Equality and Love are corrupted words - use extensionality as Jacque says in one of the Venus Project documentaries. Pedophile Cults and Corrupted Sellouts always use Equality and Love to their benefit for sinister agendas.
I can't see it ever happening, it threatens too much but mainly things like the military industrial complex, big pharma and so on. Can't see them ever being able to fight against that much power and money.
@@noshotnova2432 I’m glad you are here and watched this video. A lot of people feel the way you do. If more people know about this & how it can help to heal humanity and the planet, they will wake up to the possibilities of what can happen if we make it a reality 💚 especially if we open the possibility to children ? They are the future and they can make it happen
@@ms.marvelous7019 yeah I hear you, makes me angry that Jaque didn't get the recgonition he deserved. I always try to get people to watch Future by Design, sometimes to the point of being annoying. Many documentaries change the way i think, but none quite like that one.
@@noshotnova2432 keep showing people ! I’m always talking about it ! The way things are going with the world as it is the only way to survive harmoniously in the future will be to evolve to Jacques’ level of reasonable thinking
I first heard Jacque speak from The Zeigiest Movie 2. I thought that his ideas would never happen. Yet, years later, I kept coming back to listen to him talk more and more, he was the only one who made sense to me. I studied his work for 10 years, trying to disprove it, I could not. He did his homework and beyond. I am in favor of a resource-based economy. It’s not perfect, just better than the system we have now.
Jacque is why I'm a Bernie Sanders Progressive. I believe that the only way we will build such a future is to create a progressive society today that will inform the underlying societal moral values tomorrow. On our current path it's gonna be a Elysium/Ready Player One-esque hypercapitalist dystopian hellscape that will likely lead to our extinction within the next century or so
Participatory democracy doesn’t mean eliminating individual accomplishment or ignoring the fact that all changes and advancements are products of highly skilled individuals working at the limits of their current abilities. What participatory democracy does is make sure the rules governing our civic and economic systems are always open to public deliberation, not beholden to powerful special interests or corruption.
He talks about this at other times with "opinions " and I think he is spot on. Opinions are fine as long as you are not trying to replace educated opinions with uneducated opinions.
It's not about educated, it's about experienced, educated is relative, in the actual system educated means to have a piece of paper that proves that the one who has the paper is able to obey, to take everything as a fact the person has been told, but it says nothing about actual knowledge, intelligence or abilities.
@@juandiegovalverde1982 No, but let only talk doctors who actually really experienced it, who really can honestly say "Yes, Corona is real", also coroner, let it be even morticians, but definitely no corrupt pseudo-doctors, bureaucrats and media-clowns, it now shows that the numbers aren't worth anything, because they have been sent double and triple times, atleast that is what they told in german media. Shoot all bureaucrats to the moon, give them the world and we will be dead in an hour, most incompetent beings in the whole universe, but by far not that incompetent like media-clowns.
At a young age I remember someone saying “politics has nothing to do with science.” I thought, how could that be? Our decision makers do not base their decisions on science? Yet it has become perfectly clear that if a political majority believes an ‘alternative fact’ then they will vote for an alternative reality.
Well, let me explain my defense for participatory democracy in the way Jacque Fresco wanted: I was a freight forwarder for 5 years, I wrote documents for both air, sea and customs. I had learned how to write for road and rail, because I learnt that in the Norwegian freight forwarder school headed by NHOLT. I wasn't "top of my class", but I was essentially as high up as you could get without being a leader... or getting better pay. I sent to shipments to every continent, nearly every country, with... only a few incoterms since customers didn't really know how to write documents. Oh, and I helped customers write documents, since apparently writing a shipping invoice was so impossible even though they've been working in logistics since BEFORE I was even born. There's my qualification and I had zero say in how to improve the world. Instead it was a bunch of managers with only hardly any logistical education that decided on the logistics. Instead politicians decided. Instead people that didn't even touch on anything within air, sea, road, rail and customs had a say. Or people who hadn't even touched a shipment in years had a say. Instead I got new rules every single day and got handed the shipments with the words "Do it". I had to find the perfect combinations to avoid fines and avoid doing things as "smuggling". And while the world was crippled in indecision during C19, the floods in Europe, the invasion of Ukraine and the Ever Given blockage: I was the first on the "frontline", though given never without help or a struggle _(do any of you know what it's like to get people to work without them wanting to listen?)._ Only during events like these did I have anything to say, because those in charge were paralyzed by indecision. All this to say that *you guys could actually do better.* Not kidding, that entire field was just wrought with stupidity. With participatory democracy or at least a form of it where those with qualifications actually deciding. Even so, all of you know better than these stupid politicians. None of you would look at UK's rules of importation and think "Yeah, you know what? It's great that the customer has to fill out all this information that only the forwarder knows anything about! Yeah, so great that it's not just to/from and what type of goods imported like in other countries.", none of you would think "Yeah! Great idea to keep 'secret' documents in an envelope and give it to people who can just open the envelope anyways! WOW, SO SECRET!", none of you would think "Yeah, Brazil is a great country for logistics!" and finally none of you would think BULLYING within these companies is fair. So before you say Participatory democracy won't work. Look at a country where it did: The Roman Republic. And look at your countries now that has ZERO participation, where your vote doesn't even matter.
GUYS, how about we invest as much money as possible to promote The Venus Project youtube videos? For example "Paradise Or Oblivion"??? Even accumulating 1$ from members of the core audience TVP has around the globe would accumulate A LOT. Why not use FB ads manager?? We could raise attention, in period of global pandemic, global financial crisis - this probably would be the best time in history to do so.
People fear for their existence, more than usually, this is we need to care about, while the ones fear to become homeless or even die from hunger or already are, already lost their existence, the others are burned out and the fear drives them to obey, we live in very dangerous times again, Corona is a joke compared to what people are ready to do just to keep their standard of living, not talking about what they are ready to do to stay alive, everyone who is allowed to use violence, psychological or physical, will do it without any questions, it is now only about orders. What we need to do is propagate work sharing based on the basic income, so those who have work, can relax a little without losing their standard of living and the others can see a future again. Watching movies won't help anyone at the moment.
Truth is that I'm alone because I've been pushed around all my life, harmed and damaged, and nobody else feels my perceptions of harm because my feelings are mine alone. I can try to trick myself sometimes, that things aren't as bad as I feel, but it really doesn't work. I've come to an seemingly logical understanding that we all have a fundamental need to not feel harmed, yet it seems painfully true to me that humanity at large doesn't act in manners that try to prevent feelings of harm in others and often in ourselves. I don't know nor understand what living is supposed to be; child abuse still exists, so I don't think any of you know nor understands what living is supposed to be either.
I think there's only one way to prevent suicide, depression, angst, oppression, stupidity, delusion, unreasonableness, corruption, dominance, hypocrisy, contradictory behavior, fraud, abuse, torture, trauma, and murder. And that's to do so during childhood by smart enough and intelligent enough people to succeed where humanity has been failing and continues to fail. But since nobody is close enough to being smart enough nor close enough to being intelent enough, horrors and damages and premature loss of life continues while especially the rich and powerful, among us all, do whatever to escape and/or ignore and/or reject humanity getting more worse than better and innocent and helpless children continuing to be brainwashed, used, tortured, poisoned, oppressed and murdered by humanity at large that can't or won't accept the ugly truth going on right now - proving the failure and incompetence of humanity.
Why is there almost 800 subscribers in the Russian-language UA-cam channel of the Venus project, and in the English-language version there are only 131 thousand ... And in the Russian-language version there are more views and videos are more often released ..? !!
"Причина почему я не говорю о партиципаторной демократии не в том что я не верю в участие, я думаю что когда Дарвин говорил о эволюции, он был в сознание что обстоятельства и вещи изменяются, я не думаю что он говорил что человек произошёл от обезьяны, я думаю он сказал что человек произошёл от на обезьяну похожее существа, я так не думаю, я не думаю что он говорил так специфический, и так люди говорят Дарвин был прав или не прав, я думаю что всё изменяется, вы можете это увидеть в камнях, в деревьях, доисторический деревьях, деревьях которые были. Партиципаторная демократия не смотрит люди квалифицированные по топологии или похожее, так они пользуются стандартами которые они приняли, а если новая теория покажется, как теория относительности Эйнштейна, он не когда не кого не спрашивал о согласие, он сказал "я думаю что вещи относительные", это как я раньше сказал, если мышка могла бы говорить и смотрела на собаку, она бы сказала собака здоровая, а жырафа противоречила "нет, это мелкое существо", кто прав? Оба правы, дело в точке зрения, но учёные не говорят об этом, они говорят жырафа такого размера, собака такого, мышка такого, если говорим о температуре, 85°F или 110°F, человек знает, если он уже знает что это значит, что он не хочет выходить, потому что горячо на улице, если сказать что очень горячо на улице, это недостаточно информации. Когда Дарвин представил теорию эволюции или Тесла ???(Понять не могу что Жак сказал), это не была партиципаторная демократия, они просто узнали, я не понимаю что люди имеют ввиду если говорят о партиципаторной демократии, только если специалисты по какой-то теме, а так расскажите нам что вы делали, если вы растили пищу вверх ногами, потому что так быстрее растёт, это интересно, если вы рассказываета что вы делали, вам не нужна квалификация, у вас должна быть подоплека, так что вы можете нам рассказать что вы делали. Яне знаю что такое партиципаторная демократия."
Without changing the language, and after it, the person's thinking in the direction of understanding the events taking place without anyone's help from the outside, this project can remain only a project. Jacques talked about it, but he himself was not fully aware of it. He said that it is necessary to change people's thinking, but how do we transmit our thoughts to each other? Correctly through the language, that is, in words. Our speech is strongly related to how we think and vice versa. Jacques also said that people do not speak to each other but to each other, in a sense he was right, most often the words are like a wall of peas. Understanding this, Jacques proposed the idea that the language of the future should be universal and everyone should understand each other without translators, as for example: a mathematician understands mathematics, a chemist is a chemist, but I see here also a fragmentation or division, regarding the sciences, they should be united. But few people understand or know that our language is already perfect, just (a little) distorted and scattered. The first task to "grow wiser" is to return the original (proto-language) language. It is also clear to everyone (if they have logical thinking) that if the foundation of the house is made crooked, then during further construction the house will fall into the sky, and this is what happens to your society. Your community has (laid) a curved foundation. It is "embedded" in quotes for the reason that further on we will not talk about that fundamental bookmark, but what we consider to be a bookmark. THE ESSENCE is that (initially) more precisely what you consider to be the beginning or given out as the beginning of your academies of sciences is a lie or, to be precise, superficial knowledge. And if reality were revealed to you, the very construction of society would be fundamentally different. 2 things that do not allow you to normally lead the logical course of building a society are: 1.) YOUR ORIGIN AND RELATED OTHER KNOWLEDGE. A PERSON IS NOT A PROGRESS OF THE EVOLUTION OF YOUR BODY, PART OF ANOTHER PROJECT. 2.) YOUR LANGUAGE WAS GIVEN TO YOU BY THE SAME WHO SPECIFIED THESE BODIES FOR THIS PLACE IN AN ALREADY READY FORM, and subsequently humanity itself divided and reduced this language beyond recognition. this is the root of your troubles. regarding the translation into your language, the translator at the very beginning translated the first 4 sentences not as they were actually written. that is, I cannot even convey to you exactly what I wanted. and I'm sorry for everyone who did not know about this information earlier.
In my experience, how we speak or write to each other, all to often causes bad feelings. - At first I thought you might be meaning similarly, but after reading on I don't think so. Also in my experience, language indifference is a huge problem, but even people speaking the same language that I was forced into - people don't use very well nor teach children to use very well; some kids seems to catch on, perhaps people figure out they will sound smarter to others or will be more superior to others, but I think big words confuses matters, leaves others in the dark or frustrated or give up, and causes more problems that we already can't handle. I think putting a stop to child abuse and doing no harm needs to be top priority, no matter the language; hurt or bad feelings seems to be a trait every conscious person has - we need to be more sensitive to hurt feelings and not so controlling I think, otherwise aren't we just a bunch of hurt and harmed people, now doing the same to innocent and helpless children as once we were?
@@01mustang05 this is a translator's mistake, due to the difference in the number of letters and images of the language from which the translated text comes.
@@01mustang05 I understood you, and I will not dispute what you have written. But until all people start speaking the same language, it will be difficult for them to understand each other.
@@pikassospb The language and absolutes that I and my children need to hear is... our priority now is to put and end to child abuse. And my children and I need a majority, not all people, to speak this and work together to make this happen now.
This is something most folk don't think about. They've been trained to believe that a democracy is the most fair system when really it's mob rule and oppression of the minority. Unless there can be open discussion about facts, variables, and individual circumstances then no real conclusions can be reached that will benefit everyone. Some folk think it's good enough to provide for the majority without understanding that it still leaves some folk destitute, begging for basic survival necessities, and living in squalid inhumane conditions. The scientific method could provide an equitable quality of life or all if we'd just apply it.
Oppression of anyone who is perceived by the mob in going against the mob I think better describes a better picture of what's really going on. So I don't think the mob can apply "the scientific method", let alone "all" of us.
@@01mustang05 That's basically what I said because, in mob rule democracy, anyone who didn't vote for whatever rule or ruler the majority wanted is part of the minority and is oppressed by the will of the majority. A the minority who wanted something different they are perceived as going against the mob and are oppressed, so we said the same thing differently. Believing that the mob CANNOT apply the scientific method is just a product of the current state of society, the failure of the education system, and unwillingness of people to think critically. Perceiving it as impossible is a product of having difficulty visualizing reality outside of what already is. With proper training everyone could eventually understand and apply the scientific method to the point it becomes commonplace, we just need to share it with people we know, teach it to the children who aren't learning it in state sponsored or private schools, and eventually the majority will be those who understand and utilize it. It will just take time and effort but it CAN be done.
@@Cothfotmeoo I just said I what I thought would be better to describe, even though what you wrote does cover what I thought. I'm trying to find a way to talk in simpler manners because humanity at large is so messed up and is hurting innocent children. Also, humanity at large (aka the mob) is already messing up efforts (ie. sharing, teaching) to break the cycle or (change who's in the majority). I know this because "the mob" has tortured and disabled myself and my young children, so much so that my son is poisoned, alienated, and estranged from myself and my daughter; and my daughter (as smart and not wanting for more harm to occur) is becoming more and more disabled because there's just too many people who keep hurting people, creating more and more adversity and poverty while the rich get richer and the poorer become more damaged. I also know that people have already applied the scientific method on child abuse and narcissism and come up short, so I think things are not just as you dictate or likewise. I know you don't have the answer because it's already been tried, is still being tried, and it's falling on its face so to speak. The scientific method doesn't work; it might be the best thing we got so far, but it's still failing. If someone could find a way to get through to a person who's become a narcissist, and we might be onto something that might work on the mob perpetuating the mob and messing up people who feel do no harm is what they and humanity needs. If we can't find a way to get on the same page, how are you supposed to with a child without brainwashing or indoctrinating them?
Join the discussion to learn more and connect with other supporters around the world! Search for TVP Support - International to find the discussion group on Facebook and join in.
I’d love to know a little more about meeting of JF with Einstein…if I understood JF correctly he meet him and they spoke together…ones or maybe more often…no idea. But it would be very interesting what they were talking about.
Not much according to Jacque, Einstein didn't had societal perspectives, Jacque asked something to him, and he did answer that he only knew about mathematics more or less, I don't remember the interview in wich he describes this. I would really like to hear his conversation with Skinner, wich he mentions he had, but didn't talk about them much.
I guess what Jacque is trying to emphasize here is the relativity of participation in any system. Opinions/standards aren't so easily accepted unless the person claiming them has some kind of background in it or can prove his knowledge by means of education credits. However, in reality, several points of view remain possible on that opinion or standard, regardless of people's backgrounds. I do feel something's missing here because it sounds like the entire idea isn't explained here.
Yea, I mean, the transition from one Utopian country to another is often painful. Like the transition from a monarchy to a democratic country. Both of them are utopian, they cannot be implemented at 100%, yet the large amount of people trying to pursue them is what made all the difference.
not anymore, its here now bc the one major obstacle has been removed/ capitalism and money reward n punishment culture are over... its now a blank chalkboard to create whatever we see fit to make.... peace n love to all that see as i see
Dear Jacque... Participatory Democracy (among other things) means that if you have an Idea, you get an equal opportunity as any other person who has an idea to present this idea to the public in equal share and time, as any other person. And not to Favor more other persons ideas on the media, against your idea.
@@bagiee1 ? "jeezzz!!!" ?, ? "figure of speech" ?-which & why? - a phrase used in a non-literal sense for rhetorical OR vivid effect. rhetorical? - Rhetoric?; Why?
@@bagiee1 No, I'm not happy; I find your and others actions to cause nothing close to happy. I also find humanity is a mess, children are killing themselves, children are being abused, tortured, traumatised, permanently damaged, and putting a stop to this isn't humanities top priority; words are difficult to describe my feelings about the crazy humanity is doing, causing, and perpetuating.
Wat. Participatory democracy isn't control of individual lives. It's asks "what can we do with wirelesses technology" and then puts that to a vote instead of in the hands of CEOs and corporations.
Well Jacque is confusing facts with opinions, opinions from the people on political matters, not Science or Technology. But yes, politics should be a fact based information to the public so through Common Sense they can realize what's best for Societies
Отнюдь не сложные раз люди подписываются и смотрят. Рано или поздно первый город по проекту Венера будет построен. Это как с революцией рабочего класса. Надстройки не смогут невелировать угнетающий характер базы (основы) и поэтому производит революция рабочих.
We must end citizens united, get ALL money out from controlling our politicians and switch to a ranked choice popular vote for an actual democracy of, by, and for the people. #DEMEXIT #StillSandersPlatform
The troublesome man of power will just sabotage it. You need to crush the existing power structure first and design a system that cannot be corrupted. Good luck with that. Both on the execution part and the design part. Every system can be exploited and sabotaged if you have enough power, influence and resources. Guess who has all those things currently? It's not the good guys.
Go out and propagate sharing work based on basic income, people fear for their existence or lost it already, in a long run a basic income will weaken corruption/blackmailing, people will obey less and the chances will got up.
Music doesn't help, especially if you want to focus and deeply understand Jacque. Please don't turn Jacque into another youtuber by editing the videos the way so they look like everything else on UA-cam, as those meaningful words will disappear among all the internet noise.
This video was mislabeled. This organization doesn't seem to me to care about democracy and may be trying to belittle it. He doesn't even mention participatory democracy. He seems to think collective collaborative decision making is less effective than oligarchy. That's just my reading, but that's what this video and the intro video on the Venus project indicate to me. It seems like empty platitudes. 😕
The World is a lesser place without Mr Jacque Fresco 🌍❤☘
Yes brother
it isn’t because there are other people as critical, honest and benevolent as him, but you might just not realize they exist
Actually it seems exactly the same without him.
this place is near finshed without this guy R.I.P Jacque Fresco
@@john_dren Difficult to find them with such hearts and passion for knowledge
There are many things i learned watching videos of Mr. Jacque Fresco. Utmost Respect & admiration for this person.
Thank you all who continue building up on his work.
Expecting more documentaries of such elegance.
Like, share, subscribe. It really helps the message get out there‚
(Peter tvp volunteer)
Envision a new earth with compassion, equality, transparency and love for ALL.
Seems nice, too bad that is so far from reality and the path we are taking.
@@LovingTinha not far, it’s here. And what do you mean “we” - f*ck the nihilism. Nobody will stop this inevitability.
There’s two new world orders
The evil one and this.
This one is victorious. No need to predict, wait what happens, fear for martial law...it’s game over
Equality and Love are corrupted words - use extensionality as Jacque says in one of the Venus Project documentaries.
Pedophile Cults and Corrupted Sellouts always use Equality and Love to their benefit for sinister agendas.
@@organicwins91 hey whatever delusion you are most comfortable with
@@LovingTinha Stay comfortable in your nihilism, you seem to feed it on the daily.
He was so wise. We really need to keep getting the word out about The Venus Project. ♥️🌹
I can't see it ever happening, it threatens too much but mainly things like the military industrial complex, big pharma and so on.
Can't see them ever being able to fight against that much power and money.
@@noshotnova2432 I’m glad you are here and watched this video. A lot of people feel the way you do. If more people know about this & how it can help to heal humanity and the planet, they will wake up to the possibilities of what can happen if we make it a reality 💚 especially if we open the possibility to children ? They are the future and they can make it happen
@@ms.marvelous7019 yeah I hear you, makes me angry that Jaque didn't get the recgonition he deserved.
I always try to get people to watch Future by Design, sometimes to the point of being annoying.
Many documentaries change the way i think, but none quite like that one.
@@noshotnova2432 keep showing people ! I’m always talking about it ! The way things are going with the world as it is the only way to survive harmoniously in the future will be to evolve to Jacques’ level of reasonable thinking
Agreed. The only thing I would ask for is for it to be illegal to make robots think and feel
I first heard Jacque speak from The Zeigiest Movie 2. I thought that his ideas would never happen. Yet, years later, I kept coming back to listen to him talk more and more, he was the only one who made sense to me. I studied his work for 10 years, trying to disprove it, I could not. He did his homework and beyond. I am in favor of a resource-based economy. It’s not perfect, just better than the system we have now.
Thanks for your comment it is beneficial
(Peter tvp volunteer)
Jacque is why I'm a Bernie Sanders Progressive. I believe that the only way we will build such a future is to create a progressive society today that will inform the underlying societal moral values tomorrow. On our current path it's gonna be a Elysium/Ready Player One-esque hypercapitalist dystopian hellscape that will likely lead to our extinction within the next century or so
Participatory democracy doesn’t mean eliminating individual accomplishment or ignoring the fact that all changes and advancements are products of highly skilled individuals working at the limits of their current abilities. What participatory democracy does is make sure the rules governing our civic and economic systems are always open to public deliberation, not beholden to powerful special interests or corruption.
Like, share, subscribe. It really helps the message get out there‚ (Peter tvp volunteer)
I want to know how to become a part of this beautiful vision.
I would dedicate my life to making this become a reality.
He talks about this at other times with "opinions " and I think he is spot on. Opinions are fine as long as you are not trying to replace educated opinions with uneducated opinions.
It's not about educated, it's about experienced, educated is relative, in the actual system educated means to have a piece of paper that proves that the one who has the paper is able to obey, to take everything as a fact the person has been told, but it says nothing about actual knowledge, intelligence or abilities.
For example, replacing doctors’ opinions about COVID-19 with conspiranoics’ opinions about it.
@@juandiegovalverde1982 No, but let only talk doctors who actually really experienced it, who really can honestly say "Yes, Corona is real", also coroner, let it be even morticians, but definitely no corrupt pseudo-doctors, bureaucrats and media-clowns, it now shows that the numbers aren't worth anything, because they have been sent double and triple times, atleast that is what they told in german media. Shoot all bureaucrats to the moon, give them the world and we will be dead in an hour, most incompetent beings in the whole universe, but by far not that incompetent like media-clowns.
@@Wilson84KS its not about education or experiance, its about a confirmed opinion.
Beautifull person, beautifull man. I shiver every time i listen to him...
I'm ukrainian, and don't understand a word, but I listen to him because I want to make this channel more popular
There is a russian speaking/translated you tube channel. Are you familiar with it?
(Peter tvp volunteer )
@@TheVenusProjectGlobal yes I follow this channel
At a young age I remember someone saying “politics has nothing to do with science.” I thought, how could that be? Our decision makers do not base their decisions on science? Yet it has become perfectly clear that if a political majority believes an ‘alternative fact’ then they will vote for an alternative reality.
But the entire idea behind this literally revolves around science
I cry when I hear Jacque Fresco's voice
Brainwashed cult member. I'd recommend you not drink any cool-aid when it's offered.
@@JohnDoe-le8fy lol. That's not very nice!
He was the Tesla of our times. And I hope someday ih the future we can live in a world like this before that our own destruction...
The people who know how to solve the problems must be those who be in charge of solving those problems.
I miss you so much Jacque...!
Support from Ukraine 🇺🇦
Well, let me explain my defense for participatory democracy in the way Jacque Fresco wanted: I was a freight forwarder for 5 years, I wrote documents for both air, sea and customs. I had learned how to write for road and rail, because I learnt that in the Norwegian freight forwarder school headed by NHOLT. I wasn't "top of my class", but I was essentially as high up as you could get without being a leader... or getting better pay. I sent to shipments to every continent, nearly every country, with... only a few incoterms since customers didn't really know how to write documents. Oh, and I helped customers write documents, since apparently writing a shipping invoice was so impossible even though they've been working in logistics since BEFORE I was even born. There's my qualification and I had zero say in how to improve the world.
Instead it was a bunch of managers with only hardly any logistical education that decided on the logistics. Instead politicians decided. Instead people that didn't even touch on anything within air, sea, road, rail and customs had a say. Or people who hadn't even touched a shipment in years had a say. Instead I got new rules every single day and got handed the shipments with the words "Do it". I had to find the perfect combinations to avoid fines and avoid doing things as "smuggling". And while the world was crippled in indecision during C19, the floods in Europe, the invasion of Ukraine and the Ever Given blockage: I was the first on the "frontline", though given never without help or a struggle _(do any of you know what it's like to get people to work without them wanting to listen?)._ Only during events like these did I have anything to say, because those in charge were paralyzed by indecision.
All this to say that *you guys could actually do better.* Not kidding, that entire field was just wrought with stupidity. With participatory democracy or at least a form of it where those with qualifications actually deciding. Even so, all of you know better than these stupid politicians. None of you would look at UK's rules of importation and think "Yeah, you know what? It's great that the customer has to fill out all this information that only the forwarder knows anything about! Yeah, so great that it's not just to/from and what type of goods imported like in other countries.", none of you would think "Yeah! Great idea to keep 'secret' documents in an envelope and give it to people who can just open the envelope anyways! WOW, SO SECRET!", none of you would think "Yeah, Brazil is a great country for logistics!" and finally none of you would think BULLYING within these companies is fair.
So before you say Participatory democracy won't work. Look at a country where it did: The Roman Republic. And look at your countries now that has ZERO participation, where your vote doesn't even matter.
I love this project with all my heart & soul!
GUYS, how about we invest as much money as possible to promote The Venus Project youtube videos? For example "Paradise Or Oblivion"???
Even accumulating 1$ from members of the core audience TVP has around the globe would accumulate A LOT. Why not use FB ads manager?? We could raise attention, in period of global pandemic, global financial crisis - this probably would be the best time in history to do so.
People fear for their existence, more than usually, this is we need to care about, while the ones fear to become homeless or even die from hunger or already are, already lost their existence, the others are burned out and the fear drives them to obey, we live in very dangerous times again, Corona is a joke compared to what people are ready to do just to keep their standard of living, not talking about what they are ready to do to stay alive, everyone who is allowed to use violence, psychological or physical, will do it without any questions, it is now only about orders.
What we need to do is propagate work sharing based on the basic income, so those who have work, can relax a little without losing their standard of living and the others can see a future again.
Watching movies won't help anyone at the moment.
@@Wilson84KS
ua-cam.com/video/AXQKwalsb9o/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/AuXFJNvwgy8/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/0ySRcF_5uvw/v-deo.html
woah, thats some deep wisdom there.
thank You, i love you 💖
Todo aquele que pensa para o bem encontrou o caminho para o alto. "ABDRUSCHIN"
Obrigado Jaques fresco.
I love you jacque❤️
Truth is that I'm alone because I've been pushed around all my life, harmed and damaged, and nobody else feels my perceptions of harm because my feelings are mine alone. I can try to trick myself sometimes, that things aren't as bad as I feel, but it really doesn't work. I've come to an seemingly logical understanding that we all have a fundamental need to not feel harmed, yet it seems painfully true to me that humanity at large doesn't act in manners that try to prevent feelings of harm in others and often in ourselves. I don't know nor understand what living is supposed to be; child abuse still exists, so I don't think any of you know nor understands what living is supposed to be either.
I think there's only one way to prevent suicide, depression, angst, oppression, stupidity, delusion, unreasonableness, corruption, dominance, hypocrisy, contradictory behavior, fraud, abuse, torture, trauma, and murder. And that's to do so during childhood by smart enough and intelligent enough people to succeed where humanity has been failing and continues to fail. But since nobody is close enough to being smart enough nor close enough to being intelent enough, horrors and damages and premature loss of life continues while especially the rich and powerful, among us all, do whatever to escape and/or ignore and/or reject humanity getting more worse than better and innocent and helpless children continuing to be brainwashed, used, tortured, poisoned, oppressed and murdered by humanity at large that can't or won't accept the ugly truth going on right now - proving the failure and incompetence of humanity.
Why is there almost 800 subscribers in the Russian-language UA-cam channel of the Venus project, and in the English-language version there are only 131 thousand ... And in the Russian-language version there are more views and videos are more often released ..? !!
Пожалуйста перевод !
Жак великий !!!
"Причина почему я не говорю о партиципаторной демократии не в том что я не верю в участие, я думаю что когда Дарвин говорил о эволюции, он был в сознание что обстоятельства и вещи изменяются, я не думаю что он говорил что человек произошёл от обезьяны, я думаю он сказал что человек произошёл от на обезьяну похожее существа, я так не думаю, я не думаю что он говорил так специфический, и так люди говорят Дарвин был прав или не прав, я думаю что всё изменяется, вы можете это увидеть в камнях, в деревьях, доисторический деревьях, деревьях которые были. Партиципаторная демократия не смотрит люди квалифицированные по топологии или похожее, так они пользуются стандартами которые они приняли, а если новая теория покажется, как теория относительности Эйнштейна, он не когда не кого не спрашивал о согласие, он сказал "я думаю что вещи относительные", это как я раньше сказал, если мышка могла бы говорить и смотрела на собаку, она бы сказала собака здоровая, а жырафа противоречила "нет, это мелкое существо", кто прав? Оба правы, дело в точке зрения, но учёные не говорят об этом, они говорят жырафа такого размера, собака такого, мышка такого, если говорим о температуре, 85°F или 110°F, человек знает, если он уже знает что это значит, что он не хочет выходить, потому что горячо на улице, если сказать что очень горячо на улице, это недостаточно информации. Когда Дарвин представил теорию эволюции или Тесла ???(Понять не могу что Жак сказал), это не была партиципаторная демократия, они просто узнали, я не понимаю что люди имеют ввиду если говорят о партиципаторной демократии, только если специалисты по какой-то теме, а так расскажите нам что вы делали, если вы растили пищу вверх ногами, потому что так быстрее растёт, это интересно, если вы рассказываета что вы делали, вам не нужна квалификация, у вас должна быть подоплека, так что вы можете нам рассказать что вы делали. Яне знаю что такое партиципаторная демократия."
@@Wilson84KS братан ты прям огонь!!!))) Молодец
@@admin8386 👍 Всё хорошо понятно? Я живу в Германии и ещё учу опять русский язык, больше пол часа мучился через три языка 😆
Without changing the language, and after it, the person's thinking in the direction of understanding the events taking place without anyone's help from the outside, this project can remain only a project. Jacques talked about it, but he himself was not fully aware of it. He said that it is necessary to change people's thinking, but how do we transmit our thoughts to each other? Correctly through the language, that is, in words. Our speech is strongly related to how we think and vice versa. Jacques also said that people do not speak to each other but to each other, in a sense he was right, most often the words are like a wall of peas. Understanding this, Jacques proposed the idea that the language of the future should be universal and everyone should understand each other without translators, as for example: a mathematician understands mathematics, a chemist is a chemist, but I see here also a fragmentation or division, regarding the sciences, they should be united. But few people understand or know that our language is already perfect, just (a little) distorted and scattered. The first task to "grow wiser" is to return the original (proto-language) language. It is also clear to everyone (if they have logical thinking) that if the foundation of the house is made crooked, then during further construction the house will fall into the sky, and this is what happens to your society. Your community has (laid) a curved foundation. It is "embedded" in quotes for the reason that further on we will not talk about that fundamental bookmark, but what we consider to be a bookmark.
THE ESSENCE is that (initially) more precisely what you consider to be the beginning or given out as the beginning of your academies of sciences is a lie or, to be precise, superficial knowledge. And if reality were revealed to you, the very construction of society would be fundamentally different. 2 things that do not allow you to normally lead the logical course of building a society are:
1.) YOUR ORIGIN AND RELATED OTHER KNOWLEDGE. A PERSON IS NOT A PROGRESS OF THE EVOLUTION OF YOUR BODY, PART OF ANOTHER PROJECT.
2.) YOUR LANGUAGE WAS GIVEN TO YOU BY THE SAME WHO SPECIFIED THESE BODIES FOR THIS PLACE IN AN ALREADY READY FORM, and subsequently humanity itself divided and reduced this language beyond recognition. this is the root of your troubles.
regarding the translation into your language, the translator at the very beginning translated the first 4 sentences not as they were actually written. that is, I cannot even convey to you exactly what I wanted. and I'm sorry for everyone who did not know about this information earlier.
? "people do not speak to each other but to each other" - was this a mistake, or intentional, or a translator problem?
In my experience, how we speak or write to each other, all to often causes bad feelings. - At first I thought you might be meaning similarly, but after reading on I don't think so. Also in my experience, language indifference is a huge problem, but even people speaking the same language that I was forced into - people don't use very well nor teach children to use very well; some kids seems to catch on, perhaps people figure out they will sound smarter to others or will be more superior to others, but I think big words confuses matters, leaves others in the dark or frustrated or give up, and causes more problems that we already can't handle. I think putting a stop to child abuse and doing no harm needs to be top priority, no matter the language; hurt or bad feelings seems to be a trait every conscious person has - we need to be more sensitive to hurt feelings and not so controlling I think, otherwise aren't we just a bunch of hurt and harmed people, now doing the same to innocent and helpless children as once we were?
@@01mustang05 this is a translator's mistake, due to the difference in the number of letters and images of the language from which the translated text comes.
@@01mustang05 I understood you, and I will not dispute what you have written. But until all people start speaking the same language, it will be difficult for them to understand each other.
@@pikassospb The language and absolutes that I and my children need to hear is... our priority now is to put and end to child abuse. And my children and I need a majority, not all people, to speak this and work together to make this happen now.
Thank you
A spanish sub please..!
This is something most folk don't think about. They've been trained to believe that a democracy is the most fair system when really it's mob rule and oppression of the minority. Unless there can be open discussion about facts, variables, and individual circumstances then no real conclusions can be reached that will benefit everyone. Some folk think it's good enough to provide for the majority without understanding that it still leaves some folk destitute, begging for basic survival necessities, and living in squalid inhumane conditions. The scientific method could provide an equitable quality of life or all if we'd just apply it.
Oppression of anyone who is perceived by the mob in going against the mob I think better describes a better picture of what's really going on. So I don't think the mob can apply "the scientific method", let alone "all" of us.
@@01mustang05 That's basically what I said because, in mob rule democracy, anyone who didn't vote for whatever rule or ruler the majority wanted is part of the minority and is oppressed by the will of the majority. A the minority who wanted something different they are perceived as going against the mob and are oppressed, so we said the same thing differently.
Believing that the mob CANNOT apply the scientific method is just a product of the current state of society, the failure of the education system, and unwillingness of people to think critically. Perceiving it as impossible is a product of having difficulty visualizing reality outside of what already is. With proper training everyone could eventually understand and apply the scientific method to the point it becomes commonplace, we just need to share it with people we know, teach it to the children who aren't learning it in state sponsored or private schools, and eventually the majority will be those who understand and utilize it. It will just take time and effort but it CAN be done.
@@Cothfotmeoo I just said I what I thought would be better to describe, even though what you wrote does cover what I thought. I'm trying to find a way to talk in simpler manners because humanity at large is so messed up and is hurting innocent children. Also, humanity at large (aka the mob) is already messing up efforts (ie. sharing, teaching) to break the cycle or (change who's in the majority). I know this because "the mob" has tortured and disabled myself and my young children, so much so that my son is poisoned, alienated, and estranged from myself and my daughter; and my daughter (as smart and not wanting for more harm to occur) is becoming more and more disabled because there's just too many people who keep hurting people, creating more and more adversity and poverty while the rich get richer and the poorer become more damaged. I also know that people have already applied the scientific method on child abuse and narcissism and come up short, so I think things are not just as you dictate or likewise. I know you don't have the answer because it's already been tried, is still being tried, and it's falling on its face so to speak. The scientific method doesn't work; it might be the best thing we got so far, but it's still failing. If someone could find a way to get through to a person who's become a narcissist, and we might be onto something that might work on the mob perpetuating the mob and messing up people who feel do no harm is what they and humanity needs.
If we can't find a way to get on the same page, how are you supposed to with a child without brainwashing or indoctrinating them?
Is there any updates for 2021?
Super
Join the discussion to learn more and connect with other supporters around the world! Search for TVP Support - International to find the discussion group on Facebook and join in.
I’d love to know a little more about meeting of JF with Einstein…if I understood JF correctly he meet him and they spoke together…ones or maybe more often…no idea. But it would be very interesting what they were talking about.
Not much according to Jacque, Einstein didn't had societal perspectives, Jacque asked something to him, and he did answer that he only knew about mathematics more or less, I don't remember the interview in wich he describes this.
I would really like to hear his conversation with Skinner, wich he mentions he had, but didn't talk about them much.
I guess what Jacque is trying to emphasize here is the relativity of participation in any system. Opinions/standards aren't so easily accepted unless the person claiming them has some kind of background in it or can prove his knowledge by means of education credits. However, in reality, several points of view remain possible on that opinion or standard, regardless of people's backgrounds.
I do feel something's missing here because it sounds like the entire idea isn't explained here.
Experience and education are the most important.
Bravo.
how far away before we can start joining the venus project? would 2025 be too soon?
its impossible right now with current scenario
why isn't putting a stop to child abuse and doing no harm top priority?
'The Venus Project sounds like a place I want live at. However, utopian societies are easy to conceive, but extremely difficult to implement.
Yea, I mean, the transition from one Utopian country to another is often painful. Like the transition from a monarchy to a democratic country. Both of them are utopian, they cannot be implemented at 100%, yet the large amount of people trying to pursue them is what made all the difference.
not anymore, its here now bc the one major obstacle has been removed/ capitalism and money reward n punishment culture are over... its now a blank chalkboard to create whatever we see fit to make.... peace n love to all that see as i see
Hello American, English our more different nations. What you do not use youtube function "community"?
Dear Jacque... Participatory Democracy (among other things) means that if you have an Idea, you get an equal opportunity as any other person who has an idea to present this idea to the public in equal share and time, as any other person.
And not to Favor more other persons ideas on the media, against your idea.
? "Dear Jacque" ? What was your intent to write that? You cause nothing good here in writing that!
@@01mustang05 What are you talking about?.. its just a figure of speech.. jeezzz!!!
@@bagiee1 ? "jeezzz!!!" ?, ? "figure of speech" ?-which & why? - a phrase used in a non-literal sense for rhetorical OR vivid effect. rhetorical? - Rhetoric?; Why?
@@01mustang05 lol... just because!... you Happy now?:))
@@bagiee1 No, I'm not happy; I find your and others actions to cause nothing close to happy. I also find humanity is a mess, children are killing themselves, children are being abused, tortured, traumatised, permanently damaged, and putting a stop to this isn't humanities top priority; words are difficult to describe my feelings about the crazy humanity is doing, causing, and perpetuating.
Venus project should wait in line after Earth, Moon and Mars project(s). 🎆
It should be Earth project
I thought Participatory Democracy was like ancient rome, where the citizens did a whole lot more voting than those elected, for all the bills.
Superhero
Wat. Participatory democracy isn't control of individual lives. It's asks "what can we do with wirelesses technology" and then puts that to a vote instead of in the hands of CEOs and corporations.
why isn't putting a stop to child abuse and doing no harm top priority?
Taylor Buck people who don't know anything about wireless technology should get to vote on what is done with it? That might not turn out very well.
💜💜💜
Well Jacque is confusing facts with opinions, opinions from the people on political matters, not Science or Technology. But yes, politics should be a fact based information to the public so through Common Sense they can realize what's best for Societies
✊🏾👏🏾🙌🏾
我爱你
Его идеи по настоящему революционные, и обществу их сложно принять.
He is ideas for real revolutionary, it is difficult for society to accept
Отнюдь не сложные раз люди подписываются и смотрят. Рано или поздно первый город по проекту Венера будет построен. Это как с революцией рабочего класса. Надстройки не смогут невелировать угнетающий характер базы (основы) и поэтому производит революция рабочих.
Вот для этого видео робот не может субтитры построить парадокс )))) Жан Фреско твое имя найдут на развалинах наших городов и ты себя прославил в веках
We must end citizens united, get ALL money out from controlling our politicians and switch to a ranked choice popular vote for an actual democracy of, by, and for the people. #DEMEXIT #StillSandersPlatform
We should have a natural law. Do No Harm to others or the earth.
@@garden333 Yes, like first nations people in many places in the world.
The troublesome man of power will just sabotage it. You need to crush the existing power structure first and design a system that cannot be corrupted. Good luck with that. Both on the execution part and the design part. Every system can be exploited and sabotaged if you have enough power, influence and resources. Guess who has all those things currently? It's not the good guys.
Go out and propagate sharing work based on basic income, people fear for their existence or lost it already, in a long run a basic income will weaken corruption/blackmailing, people will obey less and the chances will got up.
Belarus 🇧🇾 🤞
我想加入 你的社会
Wim Hof ...so called the ice man is a kind of scientist to me. Check him out here on You Tube!
🌍💚🙏
Music doesn't help, especially if you want to focus and deeply understand Jacque. Please don't turn Jacque into another youtuber by editing the videos the way so they look like everything else on UA-cam, as those meaningful words will disappear among all the internet noise.
Геометри даш
..
One of the not good part of the venus project
why
This video was mislabeled. This organization doesn't seem to me to care about democracy and may be trying to belittle it. He doesn't even mention participatory democracy. He seems to think collective collaborative decision making is less effective than oligarchy.
That's just my reading, but that's what this video and the intro video on the Venus project indicate to me. It seems like empty platitudes. 😕
thank you