Briggs & Stratton migrated valve guide repair

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  • Опубліковано 23 сер 2024
  • We have a Briggs V-Twin cylinder head that has the valve guide movement problem. It had caused a miss and a bent (possibly broken) pushrod. We're gonna drill the head, put a dimple the guide and install a set screw to fix her up and use on a future repair job. Let's see how it goes....
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  • @MastGunWorks
    @MastGunWorks 2 місяці тому +2

    Tried this on mine. Worked like a charm. Thanks for the video sir. My next step was to make a new one on my lathe with a flange on the piston side

  • @thomasroche164
    @thomasroche164 Рік тому +3

    Very interesting repair. Only a little time and a set screw. It sounds like a solid repair! Thumbs 👍

  • @lawrencecarroll2031
    @lawrencecarroll2031 Рік тому +3

    Clever solution. Good video!

  • @magicone9327
    @magicone9327 3 місяці тому +2

    Keep it clean! It’s not just the fins on the head! Pay attention to the casting around the exhaust valve, oil with dirt makes multiple layers from the valve cover leaking. This causes insulation and the area directly at the surrounding casting of the exhaust guide cannot cool, only get hotter and hotter. Pay attention to the carb also, if it’s to lean that means more combustion heat. All these mowers these days are running so lean by EPA standards that they are asking to self destruct.

  • @jacquespoirier9071
    @jacquespoirier9071 День тому

    the true solution is to have a guide say 0.002" oversize, heat the head to expand the guide bores then press the new guides on it.
    any lathe can downsize an universal guide to fit your application
    Look at Goodson for universal guides for the valve stem your engine uses.

  • @magicone9327
    @magicone9327 3 місяці тому +1

    Just finished mine. Used the set screw, then staked around it, then staked around the top and bottom side of the guide. Now just to put it back together. Thanks for your vid!

  • @billb2832
    @billb2832 Рік тому +3

    i like you tap holder never seen one like that that had a ratchet

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  Рік тому +2

      It's a Pro Point brand. Sold in Canada at Princess Auto. Very handy for places you can swing a full length tap handle

  • @BestKoskon
    @BestKoskon Місяць тому +1

    Thank you so much for sharing. It is very detailed and l followed the instructions. Worked perfect and my rider drive charms. God bless you and wish you all the best. 🙏

  • @nop3noperson
    @nop3noperson 11 місяців тому +1

    Genius...i really didn't know what you where going to do but the set screw is great.

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  11 місяців тому +1

      Should work just fine. Thanks for watching

  • @someguy1717
    @someguy1717 10 місяців тому +2

    I peened around a loose valve seat in an aluminum block flathead push mower. This is a very nice technique to save an otherwise shot valve guide when you don't have access to a mig welder Iike I don't.

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  10 місяців тому

      I've seen valve seat repairs like that before. Seems to work as well

  • @tacker77G
    @tacker77G 9 місяців тому +1

    Great option for repair. Did a full replacement on a 27hp B&S....will try this method on any "next time"!

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 11 місяців тому +1

    It does work great, happy seeing you trying it, can also very very lightly nerral it a tad also
    This works great but most of the time I just tack guide thru port😊

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  11 місяців тому

      A little tack weld inside is a positive stop for sure

  • @marksancken9571
    @marksancken9571 8 місяців тому +2

    chrysler had a problem on 3.0 l v6 cut a groove on the guide installed a snap ring and drove it down to the head. was a good repair. but i think your repair is great and premanent

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  8 місяців тому

      I actually remember that Chryco repair back in the day!

  • @ronnieicard
    @ronnieicard Місяць тому +1

    A tip for you: To keep more carbon from building up, the piece should have been cleaned before putting everything back together. As it is now, you're gonna be adding carbon on top of carbon.

  • @DescartesDooley
    @DescartesDooley 11 днів тому

    Very helpful, thankyou for making this video (liked and subbed). I have precisely this issue right now. Did you make a valve clearance/timing video while reinstalling?

  • @bertgrau3934
    @bertgrau3934 4 місяці тому

    I never seen this before, but should work very well. A good interesting and educational video. Thank you sir. 😊
    I had a Briggs 1 cylinder something similar happened except the guide moved towards the combustion chamber and held the valve (intake) open. A friend of mine has a machine shop. He removed the valve guide, knurled the guide, put it back in did a valve job on both the intake and exhaust. That engine never ran so good .

    • @bertgrau3934
      @bertgrau3934 4 місяці тому +1

      @@bourne-ib7ms
      Was about half the cost of a new head.

    • @bertgrau3934
      @bertgrau3934 4 місяці тому

      @@bourne-ib7ms
      I agree.

    • @clydepurk7162
      @clydepurk7162 25 днів тому

      Bert, did you guys add loctite onto the guide after knurling or just press it in dry? I'm about to knurl a guide.

    • @bertgrau3934
      @bertgrau3934 25 днів тому

      @@clydepurk7162
      Yes, we used red locktite . And I waited about 22 hours before I put the head back on.

  • @PSN7373
    @PSN7373 11 місяців тому +2

    Thanks great video

  • @rayray9777
    @rayray9777 Місяць тому

    They pop out so easy he says…
    Who says that?
    I’m on my phone and I don’t see your bell to ring. lol
    Love your accent.. A
    Originally from Minnesota so yeah A
    Great video you have a new subscriber.
    RayRay down here in the south. Always sunny and summer year round

  • @steveriggenbach90
    @steveriggenbach90 Рік тому +2

    Great idea, thanks for sharing this. Pls let us know how it worked for you

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  Рік тому +1

      Haven't had a need for it yet, but I'll report back when I do...

    • @philliphall5198
      @philliphall5198 11 місяців тому +2

      I’ve been doing it for 5 years now
      Not a problem at all 😊

  • @garyshaffer68
    @garyshaffer68 11 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for sharing. Another way to push out the valve guide put it in a vice take a mig welder put a few spots of weld on valve side push the guide back in . that keeps it from moving out so far. Then ping around it. Just a idea .

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  11 місяців тому

      I've seen it done that way as well. Thanks for watching

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 11 місяців тому +1

    Now you can make a sheeve so it only goes in the correct depth and you’re all fixed up for next one 😊😊

  • @gloditis
    @gloditis 8 місяців тому +1

    Supper video, have exactly this problem, will try to fix guider event keeping head on engine!

  • @mikejerrett7354
    @mikejerrett7354 Рік тому +2

    Honestly I'm probably going to try this out if the problem comes up, good job random if that works out gonna save some "loonies" 😊

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  Рік тому +1

      It's certainly worth trying. Worst case scenario, it fails again and you need to get a new head. Best case scenario, it turns out to be better than original and NEVER fails again...lol

    • @mikejerrett7354
      @mikejerrett7354 Рік тому

      @randomwrenching exactly never hurts to try buddy

    • @Rein_Ciarfella
      @Rein_Ciarfella Рік тому +2

      I’ve seen this repair one other time on UA-cam. Seems like it should be this way from the factory! I probably would have done both while I was in there and had the tools and set screws at handso no chance of a comeback with the other guide.

  • @rayray9777
    @rayray9777 Місяць тому

    They pop out so easy he says…
    Who says that?
    Lol

  • @DerrickJohnson
    @DerrickJohnson 10 місяців тому +2

    Just applied this fix next reinstall.....B&S 27hp, we'll see 👀.......

    • @someguy1717
      @someguy1717 9 місяців тому

      How's it holding up?

  • @stevea6722
    @stevea6722 9 місяців тому +1

    I was wondering if this fix was possible, guess we know it is now. Next question is, will it hold/last? Time will tell, hopefully it will as new heads are hard to find.

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  9 місяців тому

      I'm not the only one to do this repair, it seems to work fine for them.

    • @bertgrau3934
      @bertgrau3934 4 місяці тому

      That repair should last, and much less than the cost of a new head. That's assuming you can find a new head. 😊

  • @fraydnot
    @fraydnot 4 місяці тому +1

    Great upload, very detailed. I used a balled up t-shirt to keep the valves up. Is it normal to have that residue around the exhaust on the valve head?

  • @trudyburns86
    @trudyburns86 11 місяців тому +1

    would a over size guide be available, thanks Lewis

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  11 місяців тому +1

      That's a great question! I'm not sure if that is something that's available. I haven't seen them...

  • @kebo57
    @kebo57 4 місяці тому +2

    So, to be clear.... was that migrated valve guide on the intake valve, or the exhaust valve? And would it have allowed oil from the crankcase to get into the carburetor?

    • @johanh2319
      @johanh2319 4 місяці тому +1

      Sorry to hijack...the exhaust one! They got too hot for a few reasons. Generally not related to oil in carb, that could be from oil level to high (gas draining into crankcase, also common ) overfilled oil, excessive blowby/POSSIBLE plugged breather

    • @kebo57
      @kebo57 4 місяці тому +1

      @@johanh2319 Thank you for the reply and information, I do appreciate it! I hope that engine is still running good!

    • @pigman571
      @pigman571 3 місяці тому +1

      9 times out of 10 oil in the carb indicates a blown head gasket. I'm betting you have smoke coming from your air intake and dipstick after it's been running. If so shure bet it's the head gasket.

  • @Ironmountain81
    @Ironmountain81 5 місяців тому +1

    I have a 16.50 342 briggs with bent push rods.i pulled the head and the intake valve looks like it dropped.you can visually see it in the port.are the guides supposed protrude into the port around the valve stem or has my exhaust valve somehow got pulled up?
    Thanks for your video and hopefully you can help me with this!

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  5 місяців тому +1

      Guides will be visible in the port. Should not sit high inside the spring though.

  • @joshuawray5917
    @joshuawray5917 3 місяці тому +3

    did you get this from taryl fixes all

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  3 місяці тому

      I'm sure he's done it as well. It's not an uncommon repair procedure on these.

    • @tazmun
      @tazmun 13 днів тому

      Taryl pulled it off on a Kawasaki twin pointing out this caused by failed or blocked cooling fins…fluffy the mouse strikes again.

  • @mechanicallycreative9788
    @mechanicallycreative9788 2 дні тому

    Ive peened both sides of the head 8 times no comebacks. With customers permission of course.

  • @PatrickD-gp3qq
    @PatrickD-gp3qq 3 місяці тому

    I replaced the entire head and my push rods won’t set back in. Engine is at TDC. ¿¿¿

  • @mth2nd
    @mth2nd 10 місяців тому +1

    Has this held up so far?

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  10 місяців тому +1

      I haven't had the need to use it, but from what I've seen and heard, it usually works out just fine

  • @user-sp3em6do1i
    @user-sp3em6do1i 5 місяців тому +2

    Have you ran this on a machine yet?

    • @randomwrenching
      @randomwrenching  5 місяців тому

      Not yet. But it's actually a common, valid repair I have seen on other videos.

  • @DescartesDooley
    @DescartesDooley 7 днів тому

    Sir, I am having a heck of a time finding the correct product code number for new push-rods. I have a 3500 E series Briggs Twin Vanguard (18hp. The Briggs store gave me the wrong number for this model. Any assistance would be very welcome. My model and serial is - 356447 0164-e1 , if that helps!?