Bill's hat is bigger in The Sacrifice, Zoey's facial structure is completely different in The Last Stand, and Rochelle looks completely dead inside in Dead Center. Also, Coach and Rochelle are noticeably changing size, with Coach sometimes growing and Rochelle sometimes shrinking.
I mean.. I'm not sure we can call rochelle looking dead inside a reasonable nitpick. Have you HEARD the in-game dialogue? If anything that's accurate to her lol
I was always under the impression that the loading screen posters were B-Movie posters based on horror from the 80s and early 90s. The characters in both are campy and exaggerated stereotypes. It’s a “hey look at what we think a real life movie poster based on this campaign would look like” - hence the subtle differences in likenesses (actors portraying them), weapons (budget rifles) and scenery. It’s not meant to be seen as a ”this is a one for one accurate representation of what you’re about to play”. It’s about the vibe, don’t get lost in the sauce chief.
Ngl l4d loading screen movie like posters and the minor flaws in details reminds me of the recent AI generated art, which know that I think about it this gives me an idea...
If anyone every played Dead Island or better yet remember it (CMON the 2nd game is finally in the works again) Thw art reminds me of a character named Xian Mei just more dead and boring.
Lmao I would love if Rochelle was the only survivor that can equip a chainsaw in 1 hand and a machete on the other 😂 she about to go ham on them zombies
The Australian version was also censored the same as the German one, even more so because our version of the front cover was changed because the peace sign is an offensive gesture in some states. but unlike Germany, we didn't get the extra CSS weapons until the last stand.
@@nolawstar6552 Your right, I just said piece sign to get my point across, the hand representing two looks like an offensive gesture. I've never actually met anyone here who was offended by the peace sign, but apparently those people exist.
@@Shotdirrect It was completely banned for a little bit, at least I think, then we we're stuck with the censored version only, with no option for uncensored for a while, until after about five years we got the uncensored version but its not on by default.
Fun fact: the pump shotgun and chrome shotgun are slightly different, and it's not just visual. The same can be said about the auto-shotgun and also the SMG, Silenced SMG, and the MP5.
Chrome has less pellets more accuracy/ damage per pellet, same with the Combat/Tactical. (Combat has less pellets). Also the Uzi is more accurate and does less damage than the Mac-10.
Man, remembering the time when Developers had to figure out a way not to bored people with loading screens. Man imagine a game where crucial information is shoved into the loading screen and no where else... Actually a game like that does exist and it is potentially essential information but with new computers it zooms by.
Symphony of the Night and the first Mass Effect cleverly disguise loading screens as corridors and elevators. Code Vein did the same thing though clumsily (because if you stutter while walking on a tunnel/corridor, you're walking into a loading zone) Then there are the Call of Duty games (from the first Modern Warfare up until Modern Warfare 3) where except for Multiplayer there is no "plain" loading screen... all the video cutscenes play during loading... the first three COD games set in WWIII shows a diary entry written by the character you play instead.
@@LazyBuddyBan I need fucking names because who ever made that happen needs their throat slit in the middle of the night. That is such an evil thing to patent that only is done by people who want others to suffer.
@@superderfmen that exactly is what Bandai Namco held patent of since Namco were just Namco (before Namco merges with Bandai's videogaming division) About the play pac man thing, not "listen to sounds of your choice".
I think the reason the Counter Strike weapons feel so out of place is because nearly all the weapons in the base game can reasonably be owned by a civilian, depending on your state’s laws. The CS weapons look like the kind of stuff that only the authorities and military could have access to.
i love how the rare one is described as shown when you load something the game "cant comprehend" like certain mods are just unholy eldritch horrors to the game itself and its just all like "ey idunno fuck it lmao im terrified"
to be fair the mod Might be i found a map literally just called fnaf and it was like the fnaf map from memory and then hollowed out with like no hammer experience, it was a survival map and i swear it is guaranteed you will get rushed by zombies and torn to shreds by a tank in a couple minutes, and id say it is an eldritch horror of a map tbh
I thought of it as the computer not understanding what was going on. As a wanna be game developer, that translates to an unholy eldritch horror anyways, but still.
i got a theory on why you have so many loading screens to sit through: the game wont actually let you load in until all or most of the players have loaded in, so if you're in a lobby with fart pc players then you're gonna be waiting days
actually the zombies dissappearing thing is really useful against the witch since you dont have to worry about getting clawed by her, this would only work if the server host sets it to local and has their violence to low but all is worth it... unless the host is a laggy mess
Well, L4D was an internal mod based from Counter-Strike Source, and some alpha footage shows that they used CS Source weapon models during gameplay testing. Even the idea came from CS Source, when the dev (Turtle Rock Studio, at that time not the same team as the ones that made Evolve and B4B) enjoyed the gameplay of 1 full geared player against 30 knife only bots.
I can't believe that in a whole year, no one said a thing about how in 6:07 he tells the bots by chat to stop typing because they aren't humans...why am I watching a video of over a year old?
There are two other "rare" loading screens ; one with the L4D2 silhouts and a green background and the other is the same one but yellow background. I only got the green one just right after TLS update and they never appeared again
5:42 I know that feeling 6:26 Rochelle has a chainsaw and a machete (dual melee when?) 8:17 Coach's face when he gets cheeseburgers scout & knife only challenge if insane
Sad people consider the Last Stand as a "bad" update, genuinely don't know what people hate about it. It was such a great update. It fixed lots of bugs, made the pathfinding for Witch better (she no longer retreats for stupid reasons such as you walking up the stairs), added new weapons, has cool new FOVs (i like old too), and lots more.
I like the new melee weapons besides the knife because its hitbox is entirely broken, but the other guns it added in should have stayed disabled. Their animations are buggy and besides the STG and MP5, they are useless. Whenever I see a weapon spawn taken up by a knife or bolty, I die inside.
@@FUJIIDEW Agreed, I also dislike the Pitchfork because its hitbox is a little bad. I DO like the Snipers, because they do more damage than the normal ones if I'm not wrong? But they're painfully slow they're basically useless in Versus.
I used to he obsessed with L4D2, I dropped the game when TLS came out for a number of reasons: -All the new weapons are awful. They conflict with L4D2's aesthetic and their balance is non-existent. Why would I even use the bolt sniper over even the pistol? Seriously, did the update devs even play L4D at all? These weapons feel designed for a completely different game. Oh wait, that's because they are, they were designed for Counter Strike. -They removed exploits that no one had problems with. Who asked for a fix for bile/grenade jumping? No one. I agree with patching exploits in versus, but not in campaign. It just ruins the fun and lowers replayability. -It broke a massive amount of mods, many which haven't been fixed to this day. -The Last Stand campaign, the update's namesake, is a short, shallow, forgettable campaign that was clearly rushed. -On release, they implemented an extremely stupid "anti vocalizer spam" system which would kick players if they spammed voice lines. Problem is, this was obviously never tested because it would kick people just using the vocalizer normally. I would sometimes get kicked just by saying one voice line, and sometimes never get kicked when spamming death screams. It was thankfully patched out very quickly. -Speaking of the vocalizer, a lot of the "new" voice lines were actually unused and they were unused for a good reason. All of the unused laughter lines are terrible, they sound extremely forced and unnatural, you can tell they were unused for a reason. Worst part is they didn't add them back, they replaced voice lines. I still miss Nick's "can you forgive me?", my friends and I loved this specific voice line for some reason and would even repeat it in real life, and now it's gone, replaced by some dumb snicker no one asked for. -This is subjective, but many of the new animations look very unpolished and amateurish. Why did they even think replacing Valve's animations was a good idea? -Mods were disabled for versus matches now, even in private games with no option to enable them. I understand a very small minority used to install mods that gave an advantage like bright colors for special infected, but who cares? If people want to play competitive, balanced versus then go to a competitive versus server, there's a lot of them. Public versus is fun because of how chaotic and unbalanced it is. This isn't TLS specific but it was a server side update made shortly just before the update so I'm including it anyway. These are all my personal reasons off the top of my head, I know I'm missing more but I can't remember right now. I used to play L4D2 daily for hours but now last time I played was a couple of months ago. The update claims it was made by the community, but there was a clear disconnect between the community and the update devs, so it was more of a "made by a group of the community who wanted these changes". Don't get me wrong, it made some good changes as well, many bug fixes were welcomed and the FOV slider is a godsend, but overall I feel the game was in a much better state before TLS.
I have nothing against turning off gore plus to that in some situations it's making gameplay better (like situation with headless infected bug in only headshots game mode or making it's easier to notice that he already died) or sometimes they hitting player with missing hands P. S. And, yeah, scout and awp is disbalanced
This is the hardest I've laughed at a UA-cam videos in YEARS. Thank you! You have this mystic abiility to be relatable and with a humility so admirable. I subbed and liked. I'm looking forward to new content.
Im on mobile and I literally got an ad before the video started and your thumbnail worked so well for that small rectangle that says "loading video after add"
@@eyebeensleeping The vast majority of people either like the update or are neutral about it. There's just a handful of people that dislike it purely because it involved changes, and are making it their life goal to spread lies about what actually changed just to make the update and the dev team look bad. In reality, they just hate the fact that some things were changed, and cannot stand change ,regardless of how positive it is. The only valid criticisms for the update is subject to Valve granting another update (new CS weapon models and animations, knife update, global vocalizer cooldown without specific line blocks, etc.), but pretty much everything else you commonly see as "reasons why TLS was bad" is completely made up or has already been in the game for years before the update came out. Take a look at the game's ratings since the update for proof of that: The like to dislike ratio is 40 to 1. The vocal minority that hates change is just so loud, it makes it seem like there's more of them than there really is.
@@joao34386 I like that the update exists for the simple fact that it breathed new life into L4D2, and most of the changes were good (fixes, adding L4D1 infected back to L4D1 campaigns, most of the balance changes, the return of the Last Stand and overall more survival/scavenge maps, more mutations) or neutral, but let's not pretend like anyone who has any criticism is just change-averse. The fact that the CS weapons and new melee weapons dilute the resource pool, even despite the team's efforts to make them as unintrusive as possible, can't be ignored when many of them are simply not viable options compared to what they replace (mostly talking about the AWP, Scout, pitchfork, and reworked knife, the rest are fine.) I get that they decided it would be better for things to be underpowered rather than overpowered when there was a risk of never being able to get a second update, but no one's wrong for being unhappy that we're stuck with the lesser of two bads here, since there's no sign of any second big community update on the horizon. Likewise, the changes to the dialogue, especially when they involved replacing existing lines with unused ones rather than being additive, is questionable when so many of the alternative lines are subjectively less good. There's a reason Rochelle's 150 decibel downed scream wasn't kept in the final game, but someone on the team felt it was a good idea to add it back in. I don't hate the update, but it's weird that being even remotely critical of it gets you met with severe backlash (and being portrayed as "making hating it your life goal" even when you've only made one or two comments about it in the 2 years since it came out.)
0:11 theyre holding MP5A3 with a RIS interface, KAC rail covers, with what looks to be a Truglo 30mm red dot sight The one that francis has has a side folding stock (you can see its folded, and you can see the MP5 charging handle in the "open" position). While is not a weapon found in game, they could have gotten them from deceased SWAT officers or Navy Seamen, since those guns were in service with them [that would be my in-lore explaination] [Now for the more grounded awnser] Or the artists had a prop MP5 lying arround, they asked for their model to pose in a certain way, then to give the next model the prop and to pose in that other way, and finally to the third model to pose in that other way, then they use that sketch to make a final drawing and thats how and why they have the same gun that its not in the game.
you forgot to mention that in the dead center loading screen the survivors are holding MACHETES, a melee weapon that is reserved for the endgame campaign the parish (sometimes on the 1st level of swamp fever if the director is generous enough) and is IMPOSSIBLE to find in dead center
The knife used to be the best melee in the game until those clowns that made the last stand update nerfed it. Edit: i don't care if you think knife was OP or stuff like that, it was never part of the game in the first place, and Valve introduced the weapon scripts of the CS:S weapons without even looking at them, that's why the guns are garbage while the knife was good. On top of that, an update to revert the nerf is planned so stop whining about it.
@LOAN NGUYEN can't argue with that, the melees in general are unrealistic in that regard, they just mow down zombies. though a light knife if swung with full force will still end up swinging faster than a machete.
the german l4d2 version has been uncensored for quite some time now... Since january 2021 to be exact. I would know since i am german. And before that, there was a patch to uncensor it.
The censored version wasn't just the German version, it was also for the Australian version if I remember correctly. What was also removed was the Riot Zombie on the Perish, which made the campaign a whole lot easier lol. Luckily that is all in the past now
The reason Zoey's appearance changes so much in the loading screens has to do with the survivors being redesigned very late into development. Her jacket for example often resembles the jacket she had in Turtle Rock's version. Additionally Valve had a hard time deciding what kind of hairstyle to give her and at one point even planned to give her a bandanna. The Sacrifice was made post launch during the development of Left 4 Dead 2 hence why it features Left 4 Dead 2 weapons like the SPAS 12.
I was playing the cut german version for over 7 years. I never thought after I got the uncut version update in 2021 that the game would become infinitely better.
1:57 expired milk instead of dying of thirst from nothing is better… your point still stands though as that wasn’t nearly enough compensation for the lobotomy the censored version
The loading screen posters were actually made in SFM and then modified with editing software/filters, that's why it looks like Zoey has 3 hands in the No Mercy poster (cause of the filter), and why her hand is _clipping into the rifle_ for The Sacrifice (SFM oversight).
Really? I always thought they got the actual actors (well the ones who they used their likeness to create the characters) dressed up for a photoshoot where they got them doing different poses, and they ended up picking the best ones for the game. Bill, Louis and Francis look exactly like their IRL in some posters. Thats something i didnt know.
i'm still wait someone make the AKM Pax walking animation also did the swamp fever and the parish Poster change after TLS update? i remember they use the Alpha and Beta model of Coach And Ellis in them
I apologize if you already stated this further in the video, but a lot of people tend to forget L4D was developed by the same developers of CS:S, the port of 1.6 to Source. This probably explains why the CS:S weapons were used in the loading screens because they were most likely placeholders.
I bought the game in 2012. And am a German. So yea, disappearing zombies is fairly fun. When you just slaughter an entire horde of zombies... and are left with a room you could invite your in-laws to. And then gun them down. Though zombies disappearing DOES help the visibility. When zombies disappear, you can stop worrying about them. Out of sight, out of mind. Tho it also gets worse. With explosive bullets zombies have a chance to just... pop out of existance. Like, not even fade out. Just... fwoOOP! and they're gone. This can even happen with witches. Imagine, there's just a crying woman, she is shot a few times and then she is just... gone. Reduced to ashes.
The only good part about those snipers is that they can be considered the Tier 1 snipers (I don’t know if the hunting rifle would count as it was the only one in L4D1).
good video, minor addition tho: the german version is only censored by a single number in a text file, change that number and you get the proper version so while valve kept up appearances they also by no means ripped anyone off that is genuinely bothered by this oh also you can easily force that untitled loading screen by using snd_rebuildaudiocache from the main menu (however that will crash the game if you didn't do snd_updateaudiocache first)
9:19 Very nice advice, and you can also put this bind F10 disconnect into your console or autoexec.cfg. It's faster than what I saw in the video. Change from F10 to another key if you want
The fact the zombies dissapear is because the corpses would be so much that it would lag everything... The game also has an anti-gore setting you can deactivate.
HAVEN'T SEEN ANYONE TALK ABOUT THIS VIDEO'S ENDING 😭, It's accurate to how the loading screen feels when that huge stop happens, gave me a good laugh lmao
I think the No Mercy poster has those weapons because L4D was originally developed off of CS:S's code, back when it was called "Terror Strike," so it's likely those weapons *were* intended to appear but were cut for whatever reason
Probably the most mentally stable left 4 dead player
Most mentally stable L4D2 *versus player
most mentally stable valve games player
thank god he didnt start typing racial slurs mid video
What is "mentally stable"???
I dont understand. What do ya mean?
Bill's hat is bigger in The Sacrifice, Zoey's facial structure is completely different in The Last Stand, and Rochelle looks completely dead inside in Dead Center. Also, Coach and Rochelle are noticeably changing size, with Coach sometimes growing and Rochelle sometimes shrinking.
You guys have better eyes than i do
Her face is too old
I mean.. I'm not sure we can call rochelle looking dead inside a reasonable nitpick. Have you HEARD the in-game dialogue? If anything that's accurate to her lol
The facial and size changing it's just the artstyle, probably done by different artists
Also Rochelle is dead inside lol
The game is cursed
I was always under the impression that the loading screen posters were B-Movie posters based on horror from the 80s and early 90s. The characters in both are campy and exaggerated stereotypes. It’s a “hey look at what we think a real life movie poster based on this campaign would look like” - hence the subtle differences in likenesses (actors portraying them), weapons (budget rifles) and scenery. It’s not meant to be seen as a ”this is a one for one accurate representation of what you’re about to play”.
It’s about the vibe, don’t get lost in the sauce chief.
...Good explanation.
⭐ Gold star.
It's the point, this video is what you call shitposting.
The whole ending point was that he got lost in the sauce
@@beltionbambie1239 Omg you... Understood the video.
Ngl l4d loading screen movie like posters and the minor flaws in details reminds me of the recent AI generated art, which know that I think about it this gives me an idea...
I'm glad this game is still being talked about, flaws and all
6:36 you forgot to mention Rochelle duel wielding a machete and a chainsaw.
Good catch
I think they tried to represent Women as strong as Men, but that chainsaw is heavy af
@@OG-jc2vl They weren’t trying to represent anything, it’s simply A poster showing the in-game content.
If anyone every played Dead Island or better yet remember it (CMON the 2nd game is finally in the works again)
Thw art reminds me of a character named Xian Mei just more dead and boring.
Lmao I would love if Rochelle was the only survivor that can equip a chainsaw in 1 hand and a machete on the other 😂 she about to go ham on them zombies
The Australian version was also censored the same as the German one, even more so because our version of the front cover was changed because the peace sign is an offensive gesture in some states. but unlike Germany, we didn't get the extra CSS weapons until the last stand.
That will be a video for another day.
im pretty sure its not even souppsted to be a peace sign, just representing two
@@nolawstar6552 Your right, I just said piece sign to get my point across, the hand representing two looks like an offensive gesture. I've never actually met anyone here who was offended by the peace sign, but apparently those people exist.
I thought the game was entirely banned in Australia?
@@Shotdirrect It was completely banned for a little bit, at least I think, then we we're stuck with the censored version only, with no option for uncensored for a while, until after about five years we got the uncensored version but its not on by default.
Left 4 dead 2 but survivors have schizophrenia
survivor*
@@CrispyBorgir huh
@@TrollGarlic i aint explainin cuz then it wont be funny
@@CrispyBorgir It wasnt funny in the first place
@@TrollGarlic maybe other people with good humor will see my comment and think its funny. for now just keep it to urself
Fun fact: the pump shotgun and chrome shotgun are slightly different, and it's not just visual. The same can be said about the auto-shotgun and also the SMG, Silenced SMG, and the MP5.
Chrome has less pellets more accuracy/ damage per pellet, same with the Combat/Tactical. (Combat has less pellets). Also the Uzi is more accurate and does less damage than the Mac-10.
Who said they were the same? They obviously have different statistics.
Man, remembering the time when Developers had to figure out a way not to bored people with loading screens.
Man imagine a game where crucial information is shoved into the loading screen and no where else... Actually a game like that does exist and it is potentially essential information but with new computers it zooms by.
Symphony of the Night and the first Mass Effect cleverly disguise loading screens as corridors and elevators. Code Vein did the same thing though clumsily (because if you stutter while walking on a tunnel/corridor, you're walking into a loading zone)
Then there are the Call of Duty games (from the first Modern Warfare up until Modern Warfare 3) where except for Multiplayer there is no "plain" loading screen... all the video cutscenes play during loading... the first three COD games set in WWIII shows a diary entry written by the character you play instead.
Weren't there was a very long lived patent that prevented adding minigames to loading screens?
I’d like an interactive loading screen. Like you can casually play pac man or listen to sounds of your choice.
@@LazyBuddyBan I need fucking names because who ever made that happen needs their throat slit in the middle of the night.
That is such an evil thing to patent that only is done by people who want others to suffer.
@@superderfmen that exactly is what Bandai Namco held patent of since Namco were just Namco (before Namco merges with Bandai's videogaming division)
About the play pac man thing, not "listen to sounds of your choice".
We germans got a Uncensored DLC like 1 year ago, it was even announced on the L4D2 paged. FInally we can play uncensored legally.
I probably should've stated that somewhere in vid. Oh well.
I think the reason the Counter Strike weapons feel so out of place is because nearly all the weapons in the base game can reasonably be owned by a civilian, depending on your state’s laws. The CS weapons look like the kind of stuff that only the authorities and military could have access to.
civilians where the game take place obviously , cause sadly if that happens to me irl, i only got european weapons to defend myself, not guns...
@@Alger3456 european weapons, like what? you gonna throw haitian refugees at the zombies?
@@714w8 shhhh don't tell them
Buddy if you can owned a select fire Uzi in L4D universe then MP5 or SCAR is nothing special.
and the cs guns look out of place cos art style differences
it's funny you're describing the loading screen at 8:04 that way. that's my most seen loading screen by far
I’m assuming you’re always playing on modded servers.
@@doggoadexx2680 any server running zonemod or any other competitive config has that loading screen
@@beachdog5058oh damn. at least *someone* here is actually good at the game unlike me.
i love how the rare one is described as shown when you load something the game "cant comprehend" like certain mods are just unholy eldritch horrors to the game itself and its just all like "ey idunno fuck it lmao im terrified"
to be fair the mod Might be
i found a map literally just called fnaf and it was like the fnaf map from memory and then hollowed out with like no hammer experience, it was a survival map and i swear it is guaranteed you will get rushed by zombies and torn to shreds by a tank in a couple minutes, and id say it is an eldritch horror of a map tbh
I thought of it as the computer not understanding what was going on.
As a wanna be game developer, that translates to an unholy eldritch horror anyways, but still.
i got a theory on why you have so many loading screens to sit through:
the game wont actually let you load in until all or most of the players have loaded in, so if you're in a lobby with fart pc players then you're gonna be waiting days
Can confirm lol
actually the zombies dissappearing thing is really useful against the witch since you dont have to worry about getting clawed by her, this would only work if the server host sets it to local and has their violence to low but all is worth it... unless the host is a laggy mess
the ending makes this feels like a shower thought.
6:25 Rochelle is literally holding 2 melees at once.
4:55
It's so funny how she turns lol
Well, L4D was an internal mod based from Counter-Strike Source, and some alpha footage shows that they used CS Source weapon models during gameplay testing. Even the idea came from CS Source, when the dev (Turtle Rock Studio, at that time not the same team as the ones that made Evolve and B4B) enjoyed the gameplay of 1 full geared player against 30 knife only bots.
Finally someone who also takes 4 hours to load a map
I feel you man
I can't believe that in a whole year, no one said a thing about how in 6:07 he tells the bots by chat to stop typing because they aren't humans...why am I watching a video of over a year old?
There are two other "rare" loading screens ; one with the L4D2 silhouts and a green background and the other is the same one but yellow background. I only got the green one just right after TLS update and they never appeared again
I had both that green and yellow loading screen with the silhouts of our survivors and the one in the vid
5:42 I know that feeling
6:26 Rochelle has a chainsaw and a machete (dual melee when?)
8:17 Coach's face when he gets cheeseburgers
scout & knife only challenge if insane
I'll do the scout and knife challenge.
Sad people consider the Last Stand as a "bad" update, genuinely don't know what people hate about it. It was such a great update. It fixed lots of bugs, made the pathfinding for Witch better (she no longer retreats for stupid reasons such as you walking up the stairs), added new weapons, has cool new FOVs (i like old too), and lots more.
I like the new melee weapons besides the knife because its hitbox is entirely broken, but the other guns it added in should have stayed disabled. Their animations are buggy and besides the STG and MP5, they are useless. Whenever I see a weapon spawn taken up by a knife or bolty, I die inside.
@@FUJIIDEW also there’s nothing worse than thinking you found first aid when it’s actually just the shovels handle :/
@@MannFace51 Or when you think you've found adrenaline but it's just the knife :(
@@FUJIIDEW Agreed, I also dislike the Pitchfork because its hitbox is a little bad. I DO like the Snipers, because they do more damage than the normal ones if I'm not wrong? But they're painfully slow they're basically useless in Versus.
I used to he obsessed with L4D2, I dropped the game when TLS came out for a number of reasons:
-All the new weapons are awful. They conflict with L4D2's aesthetic and their balance is non-existent. Why would I even use the bolt sniper over even the pistol? Seriously, did the update devs even play L4D at all? These weapons feel designed for a completely different game. Oh wait, that's because they are, they were designed for Counter Strike.
-They removed exploits that no one had problems with. Who asked for a fix for bile/grenade jumping? No one.
I agree with patching exploits in versus, but not in campaign. It just ruins the fun and lowers replayability.
-It broke a massive amount of mods, many which haven't been fixed to this day.
-The Last Stand campaign, the update's namesake, is a short, shallow, forgettable campaign that was clearly rushed.
-On release, they implemented an extremely stupid "anti vocalizer spam" system which would kick players if they spammed voice lines. Problem is, this was obviously never tested because it would kick people just using the vocalizer normally. I would sometimes get kicked just by saying one voice line, and sometimes never get kicked when spamming death screams. It was thankfully patched out very quickly.
-Speaking of the vocalizer, a lot of the "new" voice lines were actually unused and they were unused for a good reason. All of the unused laughter lines are terrible, they sound extremely forced and unnatural, you can tell they were unused for a reason. Worst part is they didn't add them back, they replaced voice lines. I still miss Nick's "can you forgive me?", my friends and I loved this specific voice line for some reason and would even repeat it in real life, and now it's gone, replaced by some dumb snicker no one asked for.
-This is subjective, but many of the new animations look very unpolished and amateurish. Why did they even think replacing Valve's animations was a good idea?
-Mods were disabled for versus matches now, even in private games with no option to enable them. I understand a very small minority used to install mods that gave an advantage like bright colors for special infected, but who cares? If people want to play competitive, balanced versus then go to a competitive versus server, there's a lot of them. Public versus is fun because of how chaotic and unbalanced it is. This isn't TLS specific but it was a server side update made shortly just before the update so I'm including it anyway.
These are all my personal reasons off the top of my head, I know I'm missing more but I can't remember right now. I used to play L4D2 daily for hours but now last time I played was a couple of months ago.
The update claims it was made by the community, but there was a clear disconnect between the community and the update devs, so it was more of a "made by a group of the community who wanted these changes".
Don't get me wrong, it made some good changes as well, many bug fixes were welcomed and the FOV slider is a godsend, but overall I feel the game was in a much better state before TLS.
I have nothing against turning off gore plus to that in some situations it's making gameplay better (like situation with headless infected bug in only headshots game mode or making it's easier to notice that he already died) or sometimes they hitting player with missing hands
P. S. And, yeah, scout and awp is disbalanced
This is the hardest I've laughed at a UA-cam videos in YEARS. Thank you! You have this mystic abiility to be relatable and with a humility so admirable. I subbed and liked. I'm looking forward to new content.
Im on mobile and I literally got an ad before the video started and your thumbnail worked so well for that small rectangle that says "loading video after add"
The last stand pretty cool, I don't think it was a disaster
That's what i was wondering ? Is it generally frowned upon since it came out? I recall it being generally positive back then
@@eyebeensleeping The vast majority of people either like the update or are neutral about it. There's just a handful of people that dislike it purely because it involved changes, and are making it their life goal to spread lies about what actually changed just to make the update and the dev team look bad. In reality, they just hate the fact that some things were changed, and cannot stand change ,regardless of how positive it is.
The only valid criticisms for the update is subject to Valve granting another update (new CS weapon models and animations, knife update, global vocalizer cooldown without specific line blocks, etc.), but pretty much everything else you commonly see as "reasons why TLS was bad" is completely made up or has already been in the game for years before the update came out.
Take a look at the game's ratings since the update for proof of that: The like to dislike ratio is 40 to 1. The vocal minority that hates change is just so loud, it makes it seem like there's more of them than there really is.
@@joao34386 I like that the update exists for the simple fact that it breathed new life into L4D2, and most of the changes were good (fixes, adding L4D1 infected back to L4D1 campaigns, most of the balance changes, the return of the Last Stand and overall more survival/scavenge maps, more mutations) or neutral, but let's not pretend like anyone who has any criticism is just change-averse.
The fact that the CS weapons and new melee weapons dilute the resource pool, even despite the team's efforts to make them as unintrusive as possible, can't be ignored when many of them are simply not viable options compared to what they replace (mostly talking about the AWP, Scout, pitchfork, and reworked knife, the rest are fine.) I get that they decided it would be better for things to be underpowered rather than overpowered when there was a risk of never being able to get a second update, but no one's wrong for being unhappy that we're stuck with the lesser of two bads here, since there's no sign of any second big community update on the horizon.
Likewise, the changes to the dialogue, especially when they involved replacing existing lines with unused ones rather than being additive, is questionable when so many of the alternative lines are subjectively less good. There's a reason Rochelle's 150 decibel downed scream wasn't kept in the final game, but someone on the team felt it was a good idea to add it back in.
I don't hate the update, but it's weird that being even remotely critical of it gets you met with severe backlash (and being portrayed as "making hating it your life goal" even when you've only made one or two comments about it in the 2 years since it came out.)
0:11 theyre holding MP5A3 with a RIS interface, KAC rail covers, with what looks to be a Truglo 30mm red dot sight
The one that francis has has a side folding stock (you can see its folded, and you can see the MP5 charging handle in the "open" position).
While is not a weapon found in game, they could have gotten them from deceased SWAT officers or Navy Seamen, since those guns were in service with them [that would be my in-lore explaination]
[Now for the more grounded awnser] Or the artists had a prop MP5 lying arround, they asked for their model to pose in a certain way, then to give the next model the prop and to pose in that other way, and finally to the third model to pose in that other way, then they use that sketch to make a final drawing and thats how and why they have the same gun that its not in the game.
you forgot to mention that in the dead center loading screen the survivors are holding MACHETES, a melee weapon that is reserved for the endgame campaign the parish (sometimes on the 1st level of swamp fever if the director is generous enough) and is IMPOSSIBLE to find in dead center
The knife used to be the best melee in the game until those clowns that made the last stand update nerfed it.
Edit: i don't care if you think knife was OP or stuff like that, it was never part of the game in the first place, and Valve introduced the weapon scripts of the CS:S weapons without even looking at them, that's why the guns are garbage while the knife was good. On top of that, an update to revert the nerf is planned so stop whining about it.
@LOAN NGUYEN attacks/swings way slower than it used to.
@LOAN NGUYEN nerf the same speed as the machete but the hitbox is smaller.
@LOAN NGUYEN you're carrying a combat knife not a machete, why whouldn't it be faster
@LOAN NGUYEN can't argue with that, the melees in general are unrealistic in that regard, they just mow down zombies. though a light knife if swung with full force will still end up swinging faster than a machete.
also the knife doesn't hit zombies to the right
Zoey in the Crash Course cover looks just like Jen Taylor, but in Death Toll and everything else she looks way more like Sonja Kinski.
When I was a kid, I always thought the crash course chopper on the poster, was a giant spider monster, really disappointed when there wasnt
Just got through all of these nonsense videos bruv. Love them. Will be on the lookout for more. Keep up the great work!
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Not sure what's that means but ai'll take it
Please never get a better mic it makes your videos feel so warm😭
Oh man, I waited forever for a new nonsense video
7:30 That looks nothing like an Aug. It looks like an MK18 with an EOTECH optic.
I had Swamp Fever at the time
All the AK's in the L4D2 posters have been replaced with an AK74M,
“Is that an AUG?!” Zooms in on gun that is clearly not an AUG
the german l4d2 version has been uncensored for quite some time now... Since january 2021 to be exact. I would know since i am german.
And before that, there was a patch to uncensor it.
9:32 starring your ancestor😂
this was hilarious, i love your delivery.
2:10 to be fair, left 4 dead was originally a counter strike mod
Omg I'm dead I love how you talk about zoey then she turns fast asf at 4:50 also my irl name zoey lol
The censored version wasn't just the German version, it was also for the Australian version if I remember correctly. What was also removed was the Riot Zombie on the Perish, which made the campaign a whole lot easier lol. Luckily that is all in the past now
These are my favorite videos of yours keep them up. Also you called the mp5 the mp4 at one point in the video lmao.
mp69 ;)
The background song in the beginning is wounded war song from silent hill 4. It is not mentioned in the description.
God bless your soul
My man cannot identify the guns in left 4 dead 2 posters when it is the left 4 dead 2 crew
Fr when the first time i play it i curious why i cant find M4 with a Scope
The reason Zoey's appearance changes so much in the loading screens has to do with the survivors being redesigned very late into development. Her jacket for example often resembles the jacket she had in Turtle Rock's version. Additionally Valve had a hard time deciding what kind of hairstyle to give her and at one point even planned to give her a bandanna.
The Sacrifice was made post launch during the development of Left 4 Dead 2 hence why it features Left 4 Dead 2 weapons like the SPAS 12.
I really hope this blows up, these types of videos are really what got me into your content.
I was playing the cut german version for over 7 years. I never thought after I got the uncut version update in 2021 that the game would become infinitely better.
I think you forgot to mention that the SG with a laser sight ENLARGES the laser too when you zoom in. Such a weirdy gun.
2:21 If they were added it wouldn’t be the only reference to source outside of the weapons we got in l4d2
This video felt like a classic UA-cam video. The only criticism I would give is the lack of the rebuild audio cache background. Great video though! :D
1:57 expired milk instead of dying of thirst from nothing is better… your point still stands though as that wasn’t nearly enough compensation for the lobotomy the censored version
The loading screen posters were actually made in SFM and then modified with editing software/filters, that's why it looks like Zoey has 3 hands in the No Mercy poster (cause of the filter), and why her hand is _clipping into the rifle_ for The Sacrifice (SFM oversight).
Really? I always thought they got the actual actors (well the ones who they used their likeness to create the characters) dressed up for a photoshoot where they got them doing different poses, and they ended up picking the best ones for the game. Bill, Louis and Francis look exactly like their IRL in some posters.
Thats something i didnt know.
Nah it's definitely real people involved
Plot twist: All loading bars are telling you if the assets are loading.
This is like the left 4 dead version of STiP0s dead rising cover art video lmao. Great stuff
i'm still wait someone make the AKM Pax walking animation also did the swamp fever and the parish Poster change after TLS update? i remember they use the Alpha and Beta model of Coach And Ellis in them
Hm... I never noticed until you mention it. Idk.
0:00 She dipped her hands into a pot of ash before Valve had even got to take a picture of her and her team
So no one goona talk about how the bot bill just randomly gets covered in blood
This video is that dude you tell to not think about it to much and still goes on and on
On the dead center poster Rochelle is holding a katana and a chainsaw
6:08 Omagod dat "You're not humans" XD
the last stand update was a blessing.
Sucks for the people who can't stand
@@nascoz3884 you got me there, good one
Louis got that nightskin rizz 💀
*Clicks the video*
I can't look at No Mercy loading screen normaly anymore...
My brain is too small to comprehend this
4:21 Halo dual weapons flashback. 😆
The dead center loading screen is perfect
Rochelle: has two melee weapons
Well, by the time you made this video, we already no longer had the cut version,and those weapons don't exist anymore.
" how come everyone else is posing causally while bill is on guard? "
It's a frecking zombie apocalypse; do you expect *no one* to be on guard? NO!
0:16 literally MP5s with sights(Francis' one is chambered for 10 mm Auto)
Author:"LITERALLY SturmGewehr 552!"
I apologize if you already stated this further in the video, but a lot of people tend to forget L4D was developed by the same developers of CS:S, the port of 1.6 to Source. This probably explains why the CS:S weapons were used in the loading screens because they were most likely placeholders.
This video mentally reloads my brain.
Ain't no way mans said the Last Stand update was a disaster can't have shit in Detroit
Last Stand update was pretty good tho
3:43
@@nascoz3884 yes
I bought the game in 2012. And am a German.
So yea, disappearing zombies is fairly fun. When you just slaughter an entire horde of zombies... and are left with a room you could invite your in-laws to. And then gun them down.
Though zombies disappearing DOES help the visibility. When zombies disappear, you can stop worrying about them. Out of sight, out of mind.
Tho it also gets worse. With explosive bullets zombies have a chance to just... pop out of existance. Like, not even fade out. Just... fwoOOP! and they're gone.
This can even happen with witches. Imagine, there's just a crying woman, she is shot a few times and then she is just... gone. Reduced to ashes.
The only good part about those snipers is that they can be considered the Tier 1 snipers (I don’t know if the hunting rifle would count as it was the only one in L4D1).
good video, minor addition tho: the german version is only censored by a single number in a text file, change that number and you get the proper version so while valve kept up appearances they also by no means ripped anyone off that is genuinely bothered by this
oh also you can easily force that untitled loading screen by using snd_rebuildaudiocache from the main menu (however that will crash the game if you didn't do snd_updateaudiocache first)
At last a good Source related channel that doesn't have the letters "A.R.G" tattooed to their butt
Thanks
4:30 This helicopter always reminded me of a Strider
9:19 Very nice advice, and you can also put this
bind F10 disconnect
into your console or autoexec.cfg. It's faster than what I saw in the video. Change from F10 to another key if you want
Playing this game since I was in the womb still learning new things. Thanks sir.
The fact the zombies dissapear is because the corpses would be so much that it would lag everything... The game also has an anti-gore setting you can deactivate.
serious AVGN vibes, fun video man
Posters Are allways leave many questions but theyre still art
My new favorite UA-camr.
for now
@@nascoz3884 Nah man. I don’t say this loosely. The last time I said someone was my favorite UA-camr was like in 2014. That’s almost a decade ago.
So weird. Just had that thought of the guns on the no mercy poster today while playing
1:39 Lmao,
**Your Ancestor killed Francis**
:)
u cant believe how much more fun l4d2 is since we got the uncensored version here in germany
1:24 It was all in le head
O_O
HAVEN'T SEEN ANYONE TALK ABOUT THIS VIDEO'S ENDING 😭, It's accurate to how the loading screen feels when that huge stop happens, gave me a good laugh lmao
Finally a nonsese video.....
i really wanted it
In the dead center poster rochelle has a chainsaw and a machete, how does that work?
2:32 Actually Story is : Rock Turtle Studio Devoplement UPdates From Counter-Strike: Source When Mike
I think the No Mercy poster has those weapons because L4D was originally developed off of CS:S's code, back when it was called "Terror Strike," so it's likely those weapons *were* intended to appear but were cut for whatever reason
I heavily appreciate all the Silent Hill music in use here
Wait what the fuck do you mean disaster? The last stand legit brought life back to those games for solid months.
1:09 what the music in the background?
Silent Hill never forgive me never forget me
@@nascoz3884 спасибо (thank you)