How To Prot Paladin Tank in TBC | 5 Tanking Tips

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  • Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
  • 5 General tips on how to get started with Protection Paladin Tanking in TBC The Burning Crusade.
    Twitch: / graysfordays
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    0:00 Intro
    0:40 Tip #1
    3:20 Tip #2
    4:29 Tip #3
    6:26 Tip #4
    7:58 Tip #5
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  • @NicolaiMainz
    @NicolaiMainz 3 роки тому +10

    Good stuff, but pretty basic if you've touched the class in Classic :). For the the DS macro, you should be able to pop and cancel in one GCD. Also you can downrank to save mana if the purpose just is to wipe debuffs :). Good videos man, keep it up!

  • @huuhuu907
    @huuhuu907 3 роки тому +20

    For me the most important tip is: use the addon threat plates

  • @BlackOUT1448
    @BlackOUT1448 3 роки тому +5

    Been waiting for the newest video. Thanks for the content!

  • @Rational_Driver
    @Rational_Driver 2 роки тому +1

    It may be a niche thing, but I like to have my cancel aura Divine Shield tied into my Redemption and not to Divine Shield. The reason I do this is because I'm afraid of spamming the keybind and removing the bubble when I really wanted to do something like throw out a heal while bubbled. It may be a bit more complicated, but it works for me.

  • @zachvanetten
    @zachvanetten 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video. I have a question. Lots of guides that I read say vengeance is the best tanks, yet I noticed you didn't mention it. Are there certain situations where vengeance is the go to over righteous, or am I misinformed and righteous is the go to minus the situations you mentioned here?

  • @mylesreid3977
    @mylesreid3977 3 роки тому +1

    Add Sunnart to your ui. It will take the bottom 20 percent ish of your screen an black it out, and redraw the rest. Effectively removes all of your ui from your viewable area.

  • @freyerik123
    @freyerik123 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the video :)

  • @hawkry9886
    @hawkry9886 2 роки тому

    Hey mate. Good playtrough. Is there any situations you should go Blessing of Sanc vs. Blessing of Kings?

  • @the_do0d
    @the_do0d 3 роки тому

    thanks for the video

  • @switchfox1977
    @switchfox1977 3 роки тому +2

    Hiyas Greys. I am having trouble keeping up mana in time-sensitive fights like Black Morass. Should I use a down-ranked Consecrate in order to conserve mana and still be able to keep at least "a" version of Consecrate on the ground at all times to pick up all the adds trying to murder Medivh?

    • @sensationmarc
      @sensationmarc 2 роки тому +2

      Get high threat gear and use the whole time seal of wisdom, judge, seal of wisdom.
      I use this all the time for dungeons.
      For bosses: cruisader, judge, righteousness.
      (Sometimes wisdom, judge, righteousness and just hold it up)
      Just look at threat addon what could be better for you.
      Consecrate highest rank, holy shield highest rank and retribution aura.
      If you have defence and crush full, just go for stamina and spelldmg.
      I sit down to drink up like....2 -5 times in shattered halls.

  • @cewlgeyegaming1094
    @cewlgeyegaming1094 2 роки тому

    I love this guide but I have just one question what about mana if we are going to cast consecration off cd isnt that a huge mana drop? because after every fight or even pull i do consecrate off cd and im always oom im trying to find a guide that helps me with conserving mana while still being able to hold aggro and dps if thats even possible

  • @Ally.Cat.252
    @Ally.Cat.252 3 роки тому +1

    Do you use max rank spells? Do you have mana issues?

  • @DubhghlasMacDubhghlas
    @DubhghlasMacDubhghlas 3 роки тому +5

    I think good key binds is more of key than a good ui. you shouldn't have to look at your UI if you know your key binds. And you can weak aura your skills cd's

  • @Emmanuel-sb7tz
    @Emmanuel-sb7tz 3 роки тому +1

    your macro at 7:18 does not work. do you have a fix?

  • @schwann145
    @schwann145 2 роки тому +1

    Everything on Pally is expensive af.
    Wanna use Sanctuary but I'm going OOM even with Wisdom up.
    Wanna judge SoW but not using SoR for an entire Judgement CD is rough.
    Conc downranked isn't holding threat reliably but max rank is too expensive.
    How play? What do? Tips plz!

  • @randallflagg2207
    @randallflagg2207 3 роки тому +5

    On Moroes, using Blessing of Sacrifice to break the gouge is better than a DS macro.

    • @danbill9165
      @danbill9165 3 роки тому

      Sacrifice is really strong in a lot of content and underrated

    • @JoseRamirez-cl7te
      @JoseRamirez-cl7te 3 роки тому

      How does this work?

    • @Undecidedable
      @Undecidedable 3 роки тому

      @@JoseRamirez-cl7te Gouge breaks on damage, so if you put sacrifice on someone and they take damage, it ends the gouge on you

  • @notkingkoopa
    @notkingkoopa 3 роки тому

    is there an offensive ret tank shield?

  • @aal5508
    @aal5508 2 роки тому +1

    When u flirt with michael jackson 1:17

  • @nickelodeann
    @nickelodeann 3 роки тому

    I'm so torn right now and I'd love any input. I absolutely love the gameplay and fantasy of ret pally in tbc. However, I've seen how good prot is, and would also love to get into groups fast and tank and farm; I'd like to be more of a commodity. But ret will always be my overall priority. Obviously we don't have dual spec, what would you guys recommend I do? Should I tank at the start of tbc as I get gold and gear for ret?

    • @edwardcarballo390
      @edwardcarballo390 3 роки тому

      Ret is simply more fun and great if you mostly play solo. If you want to do heroics or pvp Holy is what everyone wants. Prot is great for dungeons but I think there will be a lot of prot pallies running around.

  • @mr.purple1674
    @mr.purple1674 2 роки тому +1

    never turn your back to mobs, or sit down, because you cannot dodge block or parry when doing those things. also when ur stunned you don't either. with spiritual attunement u get mana back when healers heal u so if u got a healer (usually a druid because they just press lifebloom and afk for mana regen) who u can talk to about spamming sit or something to take extra damage to get mana back in a fight it's really nice

  • @duzoone3838
    @duzoone3838 2 роки тому

    NR 1 can be skipped if you just get a good weakaura, there are people who made good ones that shows every info you need in a weakaura box, i play default with a class bundle weakaura.

  • @v1ce21
    @v1ce21 2 роки тому

    Your giggle emphasises the message!

  • @1bhitte
    @1bhitte 3 роки тому

    You going make your pally on Skeram?

  • @ksherman51
    @ksherman51 3 роки тому

    grays you mentioned in your other video that you have a guide on quests to turn in for 62 on launch but i cannotfind it

    • @Graysfordays
      @Graysfordays  3 роки тому

      I'm going to post my version the first few days of pre patch, there are a lot of people posting their routes, I'll copy 90% of theirs most likely and show how long it took to prepare the route

  • @gregjones2268
    @gregjones2268 3 роки тому

    why wouldnt you open up with avengers shield in aoe scenarios then go into your undead rotations on moroes?

    • @JoseRamirez-cl7te
      @JoseRamirez-cl7te 3 роки тому

      I think hes talking about when there is 1 big mob In the other trash mobs where most the single target dps will be attacking the big guy so u need quick threat on him so exo does more dmg/threat than avengers shield

  • @maverick4731
    @maverick4731 2 роки тому

    what is that cd timer you have?

  • @robertcuvelier6016
    @robertcuvelier6016 3 роки тому

    Hey Grey, quick question:
    How useful is the alchemist stone for tanking? It tooltip is very interesting and says it increases hewing received by 40%. Wanted some perspective and to see how useful this might be

    • @robj4078
      @robj4078 3 роки тому +2

      Healing from potions.

    • @Cludo_
      @Cludo_ 3 роки тому

      Yeah potions only. Only really useful for healers. Pop trink then chug a mana pot

  • @dummytube1542
    @dummytube1542 3 роки тому +2

    Is divine shield a threat reset or just temporary suppression? When it ends, whether I've used the cancel aura macro or not, do I start at zero threat or still have the threat I've built until then?

    • @lolpaladins
      @lolpaladins 3 роки тому +7

      Just a temporary suspension, much like a lip.

    • @lavarball9186
      @lavarball9186 3 роки тому

      It temporary you’ll keep the threat you had before you pop it but since your invulnerable the mobs just jump to next highest threat which could be a healer so it’s important to not keep it up longer then the split second to cancel any debuff

  • @Keyfromtheend
    @Keyfromtheend 3 роки тому

    Liking every video, I need more pala content!!!

  • @mikleman996
    @mikleman996 2 роки тому

    i dont know if something is bugged lately, but i had a good 5-10 seconds head start on a boss in BM normal, iam fairly fresh so my gears isnt amazing...
    anyways Wings>AS>>Conc>Judge>HS was top threat, mage did two frost bolts and got max threat... wtf is that about?
    Yes i had all buff up too

    • @jasKSG
      @jasKSG 2 роки тому

      are you sure you had Righteous Fury on?

  • @lastsaneman19
    @lastsaneman19 3 роки тому

    why not judge with seal of blood/martyr instead of righteousness? it does more damage and damages you so that the healers can refund more of your mana

    • @rustyshackleford3316
      @rustyshackleford3316 3 роки тому +2

      You want holy dmg done for the bonus threat from righteous fury, I think. I am not a pro so I am not sure though.

  • @herodrink1234
    @herodrink1234 3 роки тому

    use the cancel aura on divine protction instead its way cheaper

  • @mauricioviggianoneto6308
    @mauricioviggianoneto6308 3 роки тому

    give us moreee :D

  • @michaelmitchener1822
    @michaelmitchener1822 2 роки тому +1

    #showtooltip divine shield
    /cancelaura divine shield
    /cast divine shield
    this is so others can copy paste the macro

  • @Allenschezar4890
    @Allenschezar4890 3 роки тому +5

    First off i like your content and i think you're doing an awesome job in getting to know Prot Paladin. You helped me a lot with getting the Information to start off in TBC.
    Now to the Video. To me the First Tip is not a good one. Everyone plays different. The UI is a tool to be used to enable you. There is no right way to do it. There are a lot of people using default UI and some of them are amongst the best WoW players in the World. As long as you can perform and do your job no guild should care what your UI looks like. Especially new Players shouldn't focus hard on their UI imo but rather learn to actually play the game. As you learn your class and your role you automatically know what information is important and i think that's the point were you should start focussing on how to display this information as efficient as possible. But again the UI shouldn't follow some arbitrary standards. You have to play with your UI and no one else.

  • @GoldbondPowder
    @GoldbondPowder 3 роки тому

    I like having a ret pally in my group for Sanc aura and he can Seal improved crusader.
    Don't forget seal of vengeance for extra single target threat. You won't need wisdom while raid tanking.
    Keep up the content.

  • @M5_Zybka
    @M5_Zybka 3 роки тому

    I need your advice mate- I am lvling apladin for solo grinding strat UD - lbrs e.t.c- but with out boosting everyoen is saying that i can have only lik100-150h per Hour - not more (cause havent good gear it will be difficult for me)Should i lvl up for example Druid or Hunter for farming (skining herbs e.t.c ) ? which class is better for solo grinding?

  • @SC2Spectre
    @SC2Spectre 3 роки тому +1

    Gonna try tanking Kara, I'm ret main but the tank drought has forced me to re-spec for raids. Some helpful tips here.

    • @svilendenchev9984
      @svilendenchev9984 3 роки тому

      Get crush capped. 103% avoidance with holy shield up . It's very important when tanking bosses.

  • @paladrous206
    @paladrous206 3 роки тому

    SOC then Exo bumps your dps hugely against ud mobs and if it crits oh boi

  • @atcera8714
    @atcera8714 Рік тому

    UI makes it easier for tanks and healers. For dps not so much

  • @Sgtmoody85
    @Sgtmoody85 3 роки тому +14

    If you prio Consecrate as your #1 ability to pop on CD over everything else you will end up as a smooshed pile of dead paladin. ALWAYS keep Holy Shield on cd THEN keep Consecrate up. If you dont its very likely you will dip above uncrushable and you could get one shot before you have a chance to pop Holy Shield again.

    • @Average1212
      @Average1212 3 роки тому +9

      He specifically said on trash and in 5 mans, where there is no issue with crushing as the mobs aren't 73.

  • @mcfarvo
    @mcfarvo 3 роки тому

    Graysformuthasuckin'days

  • @aldeen9190
    @aldeen9190 3 роки тому

    which race should i play in tbc ilike goats but dont mind other races

    • @edwardcarballo390
      @edwardcarballo390 3 роки тому

      What feels right when you look at it on the screen.

    • @aldeen9190
      @aldeen9190 3 роки тому

      @@edwardcarballo390 o ok I meant racial wise

    • @svilendenchev9984
      @svilendenchev9984 3 роки тому

      @@aldeen9190 For pally all choices are good tbh. Humans have mace and sword spec, draenei have +1% hit and dwarves have a minor defensive cooldown so it's totally up to you.

    • @aldeen9190
      @aldeen9190 3 роки тому

      @@svilendenchev9984 man that is so much late bro Ipicked goat

  • @pickrobber9449
    @pickrobber9449 2 роки тому

    main basic tip is to use fflame wrath macro. 7 k dps on thrats no problem.

  • @mushbrain1753
    @mushbrain1753 Рік тому

    I got a good tip, use threat plates... you pally tanks I swear

  • @aggiefan88
    @aggiefan88 3 роки тому +1

    My Shatt doesnt have training dummies. Where are they?

  • @ToH1ZZL3
    @ToH1ZZL3 3 роки тому

    Had no idea about the 10 yard threat thing

    • @mababobo08
      @mababobo08 3 роки тому

      Afaik there is no such thing.

    • @lolpaladins
      @lolpaladins 3 роки тому +5

      He didn’t explain it correctly. In order to pull aggro off the tank, you need to be 30% above the threat of the tank. If you’re in melee range you only need to be 10% above the tank. If you’re 25% above the tank and then you move into melee range of the boss you will pull aggro simply based on proximity.
      Once you’ve ripped threat, the tank needs to be 30% above you to pull aggro back of the tank is at ranged, or 10% above you if the tank is in melee range (or simply hit taunt which automatically moves you to the top of the list)

  • @70Slinger
    @70Slinger 3 роки тому +3

    "Guild Application" Been playing since Vanilla. Never done this, but then I'm a filthy casual.
    When it seems more like work to me than a game I'm out.
    Thanks for the video.

  • @megamanx627
    @megamanx627 3 роки тому

    So a couple questions I noticed that you use Seal of righteousness not vengeance.
    I've been told by everyone that vengeance is the way to go because it scales with your spell power however I've also heard a lot of people say that righteousness is better because it gets agro faster.
    So I'm curious which one is it also a question on your 2nd tip I would like to ask 1 rink of concentrate are you using?
    I mean like it or not we don't not stack Intel not extensively at least a mean you're in have maybe 2 or 3 pieces with it on you until you get your tear how can you afford to Spam concentrate on cooldown you're Going to be out of manner before the fights.
    So are you down ranking concentrate to rank 1 or 2 or which is it because if you go that lower ranking because of the down ranking penalty is I could be enough to hold threat.
    I ask because I'm a paladin tank myself and I run into this issue even with the passive which does help a lot but it's still not enough.
    I mean are you going to go into every single heroic every single dungeon pretty potted up?
    I know this might sound sarcastic but I'm actually curious because I'm just now going to step in heroics.
    And I actually tanked my 1st to last night And I had a lot of problems with where a model would be on me and I would have full thread and then it was just like all the sin dropped and we go right for the healer.
    And yes solve was on everyone So I'm curious about that I mean obviously you can't use your Max rate concentrate you're Going to go out of manna.
    And that's actually another question like how much spell power of you actually need to take affectively I have been told generally if you're round the area of 200 you're fine.
    But quite honestly from what my experiences as Ben it's not enough like I'm using those wizard oils putting me about to 62 and I still have some agro issues.
    Now granted I'm not prix this I'm still actually farming for the righteous than set RNG is not kind to me but still.
    I was just kind of wondering on that because I Mike how do you concentrate on cooldown without going out of manner before the fights over.
    Add I'm wondering what brink of concentrate do you actually use because I know as you got to on your bars so I'm a silly ones Max rank and the other ones another rank.
    Those are my questions at least

  • @anubis9116
    @anubis9116 3 роки тому +1

    Every 9 times out of 10, take a shot

  • @rustplugz1383
    @rustplugz1383 2 роки тому

    1:17 LOL cute laugh mate

  • @ricksher1320
    @ricksher1320 2 роки тому

    DPS NEVER starts early, the tank is just slow to get aggro :)

  • @jaykee1843
    @jaykee1843 3 роки тому +2

    u can see the cooldowns in the normal ui too.. dont need addons just look what u can do xd

    • @nickelodeann
      @nickelodeann 3 роки тому +1

      I use add-ons for uptime rather than cooldowns. Seeing my seals, holyshield, etc is way easier with add-ons as I can make them near the center of the screen and look clean

  • @xariotatriox6284
    @xariotatriox6284 2 роки тому

    I sure wish people would calm down and let tanks generate threat especially when you are LOSing groups...

  • @Tobez
    @Tobez 3 роки тому

    YO I use F for the 5 keybind, too! Usually peoples keybinds are entirely different haha

  • @mladendenni7062
    @mladendenni7062 Рік тому

    1:17 i had to watch that like 5 times wtf was that?

  • @user-jf3kv1jv1x
    @user-jf3kv1jv1x 3 роки тому

    Buble macro is wrong((

  • @josephpeat
    @josephpeat 3 роки тому +3

    "everything is right in the middle of your screen" ya right where all the mechanics are

  • @Tombrunzel91
    @Tombrunzel91 2 роки тому

    Ui doesn't mean shit. There is plenty pvp gods with Stan Ui.
    I like dominos too though

  • @shamantank
    @shamantank 3 роки тому

    You sound like joe pug

  • @INTROVERTING
    @INTROVERTING 3 роки тому

    Does this rly need a guide? Use consec brrrrr

  • @zophix-5741
    @zophix-5741 3 роки тому +4

    I disagree with the UI part. Everyone is different, a condensed UI may not be better for everyone.

  • @decro3177
    @decro3177 2 роки тому

    Isn't this like... all common sense

  • @epicscoreCS2
    @epicscoreCS2 3 роки тому +1

    dominos dose not make you a good player, it just make a player with bad concentration better seems they have no awareness so they need it to be in there- face. Personaly i never seen the use for it
    For trinkets and wins, they should be macrod into abillitys that they profit from, like a block trinket togther with holy shield, wings with consecrate.
    2min cd is so short no point saving wings, have Healthstone and defences into macro's etc...instead of spreading out your buttons to singel - keybind it combind them to make the effects better.

  • @Iranex1
    @Iranex1 3 роки тому

    Very good vid! Beginner tanks need videos like this. Tanks require a lot of knowledge about the game that dps and healers don't need. Check out Preach gaming's tank series too! It starts with this video: ua-cam.com/video/wtg_ricaVZQ/v-deo.html. He goes over a lot of this stuff too, though some of what he says only applies to later wow expansions.

  • @Callmedady21
    @Callmedady21 2 роки тому

    shit is called common sense

  • @telemetriklongwalk4326
    @telemetriklongwalk4326 2 роки тому

    Hard to take you seriously when you talk about paladins de-cursing

  • @sk1ppy2000
    @sk1ppy2000 2 роки тому

    none of these are "tips" ...........

  • @buygp4178
    @buygp4178 2 роки тому

    5 tips
    dont
    watch
    this
    guide
    lol

  • @thomaslegros5028
    @thomaslegros5028 3 роки тому

    To avoid wast of time you should have inclued "for anyone who never played pal tank ever & for somewhat reason they are 70" because you literaly say "what the fuck guys, when you stand on fire, you burn !"

  • @seanallen7410
    @seanallen7410 2 роки тому

    Pretty useless information.

  • @captainthrall
    @captainthrall 2 роки тому

    "tip #1, get a better UI"
    me: downvote and I'm out

  • @natashaowen6545
    @natashaowen6545 3 роки тому

    An Eredar is an undead? Imps are undead?
    You might know your shit for paladin, but for the actual game? You know squat.

    • @SciathDev
      @SciathDev 3 роки тому +6

      Exorcism can be used on demons so same rules can be applied, maybe you should read up a bit

    • @natashaowen6545
      @natashaowen6545 3 роки тому +1

      @@SciathDev I'm fully aware of that fact.
      He stated that "Eredar" and "Imps" are both undead.
      You may want to look up that. :)