LISTEN | PART 1: Day 12 of Lori Vallow Daybell trial
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Here is part one of the audio recording from April 19, the 12th day of Lori Vallow Daybell's trial.
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00:00:00 Talking about evidence numbers
00:04:48 continuing with Rexburg Police Det. Chuck Kunsaitis
00:56:50 Michael Douglass (forensic accountant)- going through evidence numbers
01:13:46 Michael Douglass actual questions begins
Thank u! That was very helpful!
Thank you so very much! Very helpful!
thanks
Thank you 😊
Thank you.. this testimony is very important but also extremely dry even on 2x speed . Absolutely zero inflection in their voices .. oyyy
It's amazing to me that they are willing to have all this brought out in court instead of just pleading guilty. Spotlight on their evil shows us how despicable and deplorable they are.
A lot of them seem oblivious... But then a lot of the notorious villains confess all. 😢
I think that they think, that they are going to get out of this somehow. 😂
I think she is defo going for the 'Chad make me do it' plea
They'll probably end up trying to blame all of it on Alex, he'll be the fall guy just like he expected
@@rhutabaga420 I agree. I've belive that since the day Alex died.
The text messages and emails aline are enough to convict her.
I agree with you 100%. There's also an exchange between her and Colby where she says "You don't know. You weren't there. I was". Ba-zinga!!!
@@VictoriaCatLadyexactly 💯!
He is a great judge. He is making sure that she has nothing to appeal
Yes I think it's why the no cameras
Yes he is a good fair judge,
That she killed her children for a few thousand dollars disgusts me beyond belief. I can't believe they took away the possibility of the death Penalty. This evil person deserves it !
While many of us don't like it, removing the death penalty is likely good in the long run. If only one juror starts to have misgivings about the death penalty, it would result in a mistrial - or worse, she could walk.
Her living in general population in prison after what she has done might give her the same results as Jeffrey Dahmer as there will be other evil mothers residing there who will loathe her.
Oh no, let the “princess” sit in prison and rot. Let those ladies give her what she deserves for the rest of her life.
She thought she was getting Charles Vallow's million dollar life insurance policy, which is why she was stopping him from divorcing her, despite her wanting to marry Chad Daybell. Charles didn't tell her he'd recently changed the policy beneficiary to his sister for the financial benefit of JJ. I wonder if Charles' life would've been spared, if she'd known she was no longer the beneficiary. I also wonder who's idea a million dollar policy was and if it was JJ's welfare really being looked out for.
So between loris caregiver benefits and Tyler and jj social security Lori was receiving over 88,000.00 a year courtesy of her killing spree.
Thankfully not for long.
EVIL
Poor Tylee everyone was helping themselves to her account; wonder if they ever paid her back 🤷🏼♀️Sounds like Lori had complete control over any $$ coming into the house, as if it were hers
Yeah, they paid her back. They put her in the ground, disgusting human Lori
Right disgusting how they were taking that poor child's money
Unfortunately she was a minor so the adult got the check I believe and is supposed to use it for her and her only.
Just as a counterbalance to the insanity of this case, SSI survivor's benefits for children go to the care of the child, very similar to the idea of child support. My ex husband died when our child was 10 and I have been the representative payee since that time. The money goes for housing, clothing, food, medical/dental care, recreation, lessons, etc...etc...ETC. The idea that a child should get the money to spend is ludicrous- I would have a house full of pokemon cards and no college fund, lol
@@reefshadow1 great point ✔️
Wow the paper trail this couple generated is humongous. Did they really believe that by hiding it all in the lock up, detectives would not discover the true horror of what they had done?
How were the children killed, did they say?
@@Alwaysherethere I believe the medical examiner testified early in the trial, though I can't recall which day. I haven't listened to it yet to give you a more complete answer but wanted to at least mention the testimony if you wanted to find it.
@@AuntCathyPoohI haven’t heard the ME testify yet.
@@AlwaysherethereNo! Hasn’t been any testimony about any of that yet
@@tammyirwin703
Oh ok,, I wasn't aware of this case until 2 weeks ago. Thank's!
I can't believe all the traveling these people seem to have been doing. Constantly traveling to visit friends, church stuff, vacationing, moving all the time, etc. When raising kids who are in school, who has the time or money for that? Assuming they have to work to afford traveling, how do they get so much time off? Just something I thought was excessive and odd.
She was living off the children and her SS benefits: $6,000.00 a month.
It’s so excessive I also think Charles lifestyle made is possible for Lori to travel her looney ass around without a care In he world
@@Missstrish I think you're right.
@@vz4779 So sickening to think about!
Yeah, and who paid for it?
I find it ridiculous that she'd be found incompetent, even for a millisecond, to stand trial, but she's competent to do all of this skuldugerous high finance? PLEASE.
Narcissists become 'incompetent' when they lose control. 😅
So she also stopped giving JJ he's medicine😢
Cause he was dead
@@janehilliard4265 they could not find any prescriptions that were filled in 2019....they suspect the children died in September 2019....
Here it is! 😉👍 (Part 1)
I'm starting to feel sorry for the defense 😂😂 they have zero chance of defending that lunatic.
It's got to be one of the hardest jobs. But really what they're doing is guaranteeing her right to a fair trial. And we all need to appreciate that is their constitutionally required duty and we need people who are willing to toe that line. So even though people like to hate on defense attorneys, a fair system could not work without them.
@@therealdeal3672 you are so correct, thank you.
Defense counsel’s only role is to protect her/his client according to their Constitutional rights. Period.
Defense counsel does not ask her/his client if guilty or not. The defendant’s rights remain intact until convicted.
@@therealdeal3672 Well said. People like to hate on the defence in obvious guilt trials but you have to appreciate and acknowledge their position. Like they chose that case???
Are these court appointed public defenders????
This case is so incredibly unbelievably terrifying.Its almost surreal that this actually happened. Yet the victims were living with this Evil filthy Monster.I believe this thing was simply carrying out her agenda,and really just started her next chapter of horror
They're all definitely in la la land!
I believe that she killed Tylee's father Joseph Ryan as well. It's impossible to prove now since (like Tammy), his death was initially ruled 'natural' and, like Charles Vallow, his body was cremated.
All of this testimony pertaining to all of the financial information should surely be able to convict evil lady and Evil guy of theft from the kids social security and social security might also be able to get them both as well. 😮😮😮
Jason Rowe, I agree Judge BOYCE is trying his hardest to keep evil lady from being able to claim anything was wrong. I think that is why he kept cameras outside of the court room, as much as I wanted to see it. At least we have adio. 😊
That has nothing to do with why he's keeping the cameras out of the courtroom.
@@samsmom400 Okay, why is he then?
Every judge can rule on what happens in their court room. Boyce could say no so he did.
Why
@@Florida-Plant-Mom It's a Mormon thing. Lori and Chad and all the other crazy people are making the multi-billion dollar a year corporation church look bad, as if they needed any help. They want this and all their crazy brainwashing doctrine to go away. This case is shedding light on the darkness, lies, and secretive practices of the Mormon (LDS) church
As important as this trial is…why is it not seen…..? People need to know what is going on…..
Mormons protecting Mormons.
I read that the Judge banned filming as he felt the visuals would not lead to a fair trial or something like that.
It would be detrimental to Chad's trial. And we do know what is going on, we have a verbal record daily.
I think the truth lies more with, this psychopath ended up getting what she wanted, (her way.) and that was not to be publicly shown. as the villain she is. Coupled with, the FLDS church didn’t like their business and religion on full display. And we all know how involved churches can be politically. I am also believing that the judge may also be part of that church. 🤷♀️JS!
I think she was (is?) involved with the mainstream LDS (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) church, but became involved with a separate group, with Chad being some sort of leader of that group.
This woman seems like she will kill for 💰 🤑 💸 mostly. Her oldest had zero from his dad ...so no need to kill. Sad. This is before Chad..meeting him made a dynamite of calamities.
I am sorry to say it But I do not think she became evil the minute she met Chad. But whatever she was before he mulitplied it x 4.
I wonder if her demon name was skanky 🤔
Her demons name is insane. That doesn’t forgive her. She is crazy. She knows exactly what she was a part of
If your truly crazy you talk crazy to everyone. She knew who she could talk demon talk to and who she couldn’t. That’s calculated, cunning and capable…not crazy.
Demon put the Dog up for Sale. Sickening
Religion is horrible.
This was not a religion. Seems like they made it up as they went along.
No people that created religion are horrible. That's why they created to have control because deep down they are weak and cent control their evil nature
God hates religion too. Religious leaders had him killed, at least, his human flesh he put on for a while.
It's the route of all evil 😈
IMO The evidence given so far in relation to finances Chad and Lori definitely had a plan to eliminate Tylee and JJ. Their callous disregard that the children were already deceased ,collecting funds for the children and caregiver funds, they continued spending those funds shows me they had no intention to ever disclose the passing of the children. How any parent can do what they did is beyond me.
Much love from Pennsylvania ❤❤❤❤
No children ummmmm and I wonder why? Could it be because evil lady and Evil guy murdered those poor innocent kids. Yep it sure is the reason they have no kids 🧒 😢😢😢
She is looking rough!
Looks like her fillers are wearing off
When my son died, I thank God that one of my first phone calls was to the Soc Sec office to inform them. The same with my mothers death. 🙏🏻🙏🏻
🙏🙏🙏
Didn’t she accept about 10 months of checks (about $3400) for these kids for 10 months? ($34,000)
I'm so sorry to hear about your son. 🫂
@@ksr55555 Her checks were cut off in January so she did not receive checks through June. In January he FBI informed SS that the children were missing which resulted in checks being stopped.That testimony was earlier this week. I imagine when she did not receive those deposits she upset.
So.....Alex tootles off to Mexico to buy Meds....oh really....that a regular thing fit this family ?🤔
I'd put money on Lori having a history of administering Colchacine ( or similar Gout meds) to Her Ryan husband.....Tammy......and Alex at the very least.
80 bank accounts 😮😮
With the death penalty off the table what punishment could equal these crimes?
Fom what timemachine are you coming from?
Life without parole
@Paula M. Are you not aware that the death penalty has in fact, already been taken off the table? Otherwise, your comment doesn't make sense.
DP takes so long anyway. Most pass LONG before that will happen. We're over populated........
Imho, for her to wake up and realize none of it was true.
She does not have a moral compass and definitely does not have any shame.
I think the defense determined from the start of this case that the state has no links to Lori Vallow being involved in these deaths. I think the prosecution is going to go for convicting her on the financials instead. That’s what I’m seeing anyway.
Conspiracy to commit murder is pretty clear-cut, however. So she may not be connected with the actual deaths she's connected with the conspiracy against these innocent murdered people. Although it's true there is no direct connection between her and actually committing the murders. She's implicated in the plans for sure. And the financial crimes wouldn't give her the time that prosecution is going to push for. No I think they've got her for the murders, too. If you view it as conspiracy.
Also, since Lori directly benefited from the murderers by virtue of receiving stolen money from the deceased, that definitely implicates her in the murders themselves. Not just the financial crimes.
The prosecution is going for both. She’s charged with 1st degree murder, conspiracy to murder and the insurance fraud/theft.
@@CMRBURE I’ve been following the case from the beginning and have listened to all of the audio except for the day that they were showing the pics of the dead kids.
This trial is just getting started. It was estimated to go for like 10 weeks at least, I think.
@@Cali-is-top10 you said 10 weeks. i feel like most things have been said now i wonder who are tehy gonna bring in for 8 more weeks??? i mean do you know?
Anyone who is prepared to murder a child should have a speeded up death penalty
NATE EATON from East Idaho News says that won't be any videos and the ones that are being streamed to other court room's they say will be destroyed and not keeping them. I hope someone changes their mind and that at some point they will show it. 😊
If I had 2 people, a crackhead and a Mormon, in front of me telling me 2 different stories, I'd believe the crackhead over the Mormon every time.
@@samsmom400 Ditto!
They’re not saving the video files. So they are deleted every day. There will be no way to show them in the future
@@samsmom400 I have to agree with you.
@@Cali-is-top10 that's not true 😮
I wonder what tylee knew and if she had any inkling this would happen to her and JJ🤔
She can’t say she’s not guilty it seems she was with T always till she wasn’t so sad! I can’t imagine any human doing this to anyone!
This is a very sad case
I didn't know about Alex's health until yesterday. No wonder Lori had so much control over him. I think Lori would eventually get bored with Chad and trade him for a newer model with lots of money. Do you have to an official lawyer to say "No thank you your Honor.:"?
1:59:10 Mister Vallow!? Got that right! 😂
I want to know if these kids knew was was coming. Did they suffer? Pray not.
Unfortunately, I believe someone testified to Tylee asking her mom if she thought she was a Zombie?
I think she knew something.. and the way her mom talked about JJ. She probably caught on.. and is why they killed her so much sooner (imo)
I think that Alex smothered jj and Dumbell shot Tylee?
@@CMRBURE thanks 😊!
I wouldn’t be surprised if they drugged him half the death and just buried him alive.
@@yourinnerlawyer4035 very possible!
I am blown away that she WANTS all this evidence made public… what benefit does this give her???
Other than a swift judgment day by the other prisoners. There’s a lot of criminals serving time and the ones who harm children either don’t last long or their in confinement… so… she’ll definitely be popular!!!
she IS getting a LOT of attention !!!!
Narcissists won't admit guilt. She thinks she is above the law and has a sense of entitlement. She has got away with a lot in her life and is willing to take the chance in court. They will play the victim card to the hilt.
Why was Colby getting money from his mom
He’s like 27 years old right now, so he was in his early 20s when he was receiving money from her. A lot of kids are staying in their parents home until they’re like 30. So he did move out, but was apparently still receiving some financial support. Or maybe Lori was just sending him money as gifts.
To keep him quiet about joe Ryan's death
She is a psychopath without feeling except for herself. She cut a deal to not get the death penalty. Chad on the other hand can and should get the death penalty as he couldn’t cut a deal.
These are sick murdering puppies!
she did not cut a deal, the judge sanctioned the prosecution and the punishment for not turning over the info on time to the defense, death is off the table.
@Sherri Clark:Lori didn't cut a deal, nor did she try to.
* The judge took the DP off the table for Lori, due to the fact that her trial had been delayed 3 years up to that point, violating her Right to a speedy trial, which Right Lori never waived. Preparing for a DP case would have caused a further delay of her trial. The video of the in-camera proceeding is available on UA-cam.
* Lori's case was severed from Chad's on the same day, for the same reason.
* And Chad never tried to cut a deal. I don't know where you're getting your information, but it's not from the court proceedings (all of which are available on UA-cam), or from reputable news sources like Nate Eaton at East Idaho News, or Justin Lum at Fox 10 Phoenix.
EDIT: If Lori had cut a deal, there wouldn't be a trial. She'd plead Guilty to whatever the deal was, then get her sentence. That's how plea deals work.
He's a god, he should be happy to get the death penalty and go to his own planet. Come to think of it, why wouldn't Lori want the same thing?
Good testimony. It’s a lot of mother may I.
Malachite is a stone for truthfulness.
also poisonous
Could you please not put the predatory psychopaths picture as the thumbnail? It makes it physically uncomfortable to watch/listen to your videos when i see her staring at me. Ive been putting a postit note over her face so i can listen without feeling hunted.
They’re not going to change something because it makes you personally feel uncomfortable. Keep your post it on the picture and stop complaining.
@@yourinnerlawyer4035 people like to get feedback on what they post, you stop complaining.
Way too many commercials. So annoying with the constant interruption
It’s so annoying. The ads come on so loud! So you have to turn the volume down and then turn it back up when the trial is back on!
Ad block hun
Or pay UA-cam 10 a month
i have zero ads? i'm not in the usa though and i also have ad block (if that does anything for youtube)
What a mess! 21:29
🙏🏻Nate❤
Yes. And, all the people who will be impacted, especially those who love the victims.
Makes me wonder WHO chad daybell thought would "follow" him after marrying a 4X'S married woman
Watching the killer stepmother and then move to here and fall asleep
She reminds me of Leslie Van Houten.
Yes..this is the Mormon Manson Family...
Boy I'd love to hear from Melanie Boudreaux
Is she going to be a witness?
She already testified
@@zombiejerry3105 I think at this point of the trial, Melanie Bordeaux has not testified, but Melanie Pastenes did.
Too many damn Comercials
If you pay a monthly fee to UA-cam, you will watch commercial fee. Everything costs money.
Or just put adblock on...😂
@@astrialindah2773 i have literally zero ads, i do use adblock but i also think in the usa youtube is A LOT worse regarding ads
Lori will see Jj and Tylee every night and day. Anyone who proclaims to love God and Jesus could never do such a thing
One of God's commandments is thou shalt not kill. Jesus taught the truth. He healed the sick, and he cast out devils. He showed us how to love one another! I think when she dies and faces her maker, the outcome will not be good for her. She is not the judge. We have one judge, and it's not her! People think Chad was the mastermind. However, she killed her family except her oldest son! She played a part in Tammy's death. So many died at her hands. She claimed she was a god! That's blasphemy at the highest level! She knew exactly what she was doing. She had her brother do her dirty work! She might as well have done it herself. She was the puppet master!
Did they throw the wedding rings out?
Don't you think zulema's refusal to answer was because the defense attorney made snicker laugh at her. When she said she don't remember. Then when she composed herself to answer. He with drawed the question. That withdrawal was not by chance friends. From all the years practicing, he knew she was going to wipe the floor with him.
Absolute venality
😢
1:59:50 again Mister Vallow 😂
Poor guy. 😅 Imagine having to keep the names of all these criminals straight.
Why cant Colby Ryan support himself... These people are all scammers including Colby..it's just that he made it out alive
I believe that Colby was at one point being charged for a sexual assault but the charges may have been dropped?
@@CMRBURE He is 27 years old-time to stop living off of your younger sister... Also you should google him - He admitted to raping a woman last year and has active charges due to that incident - this whole family are a bunch of nuts
JFC as if Colby hasn’t gone through enough you’re calling him a scammer. You need to shut up and crawl back in your mom’s basement. Victim blaming much? You’re gross.
Colby was first on scene when they supposedly found joe Ryan dead. He's not as innocent as he wants everyone to believe. He helped his mom do something to Ryan
I think that was around the time his first child was born. I think I later heard it had been a rough time for him and his young family, but I don't know. My oldest son is his age and started supporting himself around that time, too, but he doesn't have any wife or kids. It can be a bumpy transition for a lot of reasons.