I look forward after my work shift to coming home and listening to these audios thank you so much for providing them tonight. Just gonna listen in reverse part 2 then part one lol.. another 4am bed time.
I'm horrible I listen at work lol all my employees know that I'm obsessed 😂 if they need something, they knock and wait for me to pause it so they can talk to me! A girls got to do what a girls got to do! 😅😅
Thank you East Idaho News for your coverage of this trial. The prosecution is doing a great job. The defense? There is no defense. She deserves everything she's got coming
@@bonnienelson7373 I don't believe it's psychopathic. Lori never got her hands dirty. Alex and Chad disposed of all the unwanted. If anybody had psychopathic traits it is Chad Daybell.
Thank you all for providing such high quality, dependable access to this trial. Not having it video recorded is difficult, but you have made it feel like we’re watching.
You are so right! Do you know if Charles was killed in the same house that he called police for help earlier? He had reported her bizzarro and threatening behavior, as well as his concerns for the safety of his children. That had to have been a unique call, so it's outrageous that police didn't connect these dots until after the children had been murdered. So sad and senselessly. 😢 Hope Lori is found guilty and NEVER walks free. She has no conscience and is extremely dangerous.
the police woman Archibald was asked about Lori's demeaner after Charles was killed , yeah to me it was bizarre how someone can be so calm after knowing your husband has just been shot.
Nate just s a note about Lori's note taking. I learned from watching the Depp Vs Heard trial, that when you have a Hugely unpopular defendant, like Amber Heard or Lori, especially one like both of them that are unable to control their facial expressions and inappropriate laughing, smiling, smirking, etc. The defendant's attorney will advise them to take notes to busy their minds, their hands, etc. In the case of Amber Heard, the court Camara caught her doodling little things that meant nothing. At one point, the Camara even caught her pretending to write something. He pen wasn't actually even touching the paper. It made her look like she was feverishly composing rebutles to what the witnesses were testifying to. She frequently would show her note pad to her attorneys as though she was helping them with her defense. But as I said, the Camara had caught the fact that she wasn't actually writing anything. It was all an act. I have a feeling the same thing may be going on with Lori. So she can't sit there and smirk & laugh and become even more unlikable to the jury. See if you can get a glimpse of her note pad. She may not be writing anything other than I heart Chad. Or I'm going to kill Zulema when I get out of here. Or all jail and no castings/😊killings makes Lori a dull girl. 😅
This chick is a loony tune & she will never get out of prison not to mention women in prison hate child killers so she will be put in protective custody all to her self 23 hrs a day maybe her god will free her to the next world.
I agree, and I remember that about Amber Heard! Always doodling, but it turned out to be nonsense! Just one tiny thing, it's camera, not Camara. That might be you're spell check acting up! 😎
In the Murdaugh trial the jury deliberated for 3 hours...my guess is this jury will figure this out in less time. I kind of feel sorry for her lawyers as representing her must be difficult. She'll have a rough time in prison, but that's where she's headed.
Mr. Archibald sounds so defeated. He is also a very good lawyer and is representing Lori as well as he can, considering what he has to work with. He does nearly no cross either. Poor guy.
Dyanne Lynne ,I know the feeling I'm up even later due to my watching several other videos pertaining to this case so by the time I got to Part1 of the trial for April 19th and started part 2 of April 19th it was 7.02am.eastern time. I have decided to listen for an hour of the 2hr video and finish it when I get up for the day. 😊😊😊
1:03:00 so Tylee threatened to hit her DAD with a baseball bat to help her MOM (who had stolen her dads phone). 🤔 The same MOM who later killed her, cut her into pieces, set her afire, and buried her in the backyard. 🤦
She was probably under alot of her mother's manipulation as well at that time and there's so little about Tylee coming out in this case like everyone just forgot that she existed. They only really realized she was missing while looking for JJ and the one person in her life that wasn't Lori who would have raised any alarm was being tricked by Lori into believing she as still alive. It's incredibly heartbreaking that a 16 year old girl would go missing and nobody seemed to notice and there's nobody to testify, not even any friends, as to how she might have been feeling or thinking throughout the course of all of this
@@dowehavetoputournames2420 And yet there were so many that knew that she was deemed a zombie, and then didn't see her,... Melanie Gibb Melani pawlowski Alex Zaluma And the countless other people in their groups that I don't remember the names of......
So Lori got JJ ready for school for Charles to pickup. Then Charles comes, gets JJ and puts him in the car, but forgot his phone so went back in to get it. Why would lori need to buy flip flops? I am positive Charles wasn’t taking JJ to school with no shoes. He probably wouldn’t take him out of the house without shoes. And JJ never got out of the car at the home after Charles put him in.
Chandler police should have been concerned on the sequence of events reported by Lori and the time-line of events from Charles arrival at the house through to Lori's return to the house.....far MORE than the demeanor of Lori.
And the fact that Lori was so vague about what was happening and what they were arguing over. It's like there was no argument, and she couldn't come up with a decent explanation.
I’ve been following this and the Leticia Stauch case and it’s funny it seems like if anyone should’ve pleaded insane and had a chance it would be her Lori Cox-Ryan-Vallow-Daybell !
I think she tried and was shown to be sane enough to stand trial. Lori Vallow Daybell's case was paused in June 2021 after she was declared incompetent for trial and committed to the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare. Ten months later, she was deemed competent and proceedings resumed.
Lori had no business with Charles's phone. It's ridiculous that she wouldn't give it back to him. I wonder if it even happened. I don't believe a word that woman says.
@@danieldougan269 Yes, but Lori is manipulative and cunning and spent time with Tylee before they went to the police station. It's very likely that she told Tylee what to say.
My guess is Tyree later realized her uncle’s self-defense was actually a murder to get rid of Charles, and she felt that she needed to protect JJ this she moved to Idaho with them. When JJ was drugged, she started questioning Lori and Alex so they silenced her.
Tylee probably overhead Alot being around these people. Especially her mother. I remember when this first came out, there was a video (?) saying Tylee was either dark or turning into a zombie & she said "No Not me Mom " like she knew it wasn't good. .
@Emma Knightley Just touch the East Idaho News icon on your screen, it will bring you to that platform. Hit "videos" and you will see part 1 behind this video.
Does anyone know if Charles' family is suing the chandler pd ? Just the fact that poor Charles was shot again after on the floor shows obviously not self defense.
The police should have taken him seriously back in Jan 2019 when he told him she was saying crazy things and threatened him.. He even told them he was worried about what she could do to the kids.... Boy did he have her pegged! He freaking told them this and I can't believe they didn't take him seriously....
For everyone saying Chandler PD botched this case, I couldn't disagree more. They were masterful. Murder cases in which the killer claims self-defense are notoriously difficult to prove. A case like this was even more complicated because it was a conspiracy. They would have to build their case brick by brick, very methodically. There was no way to arrest anyone that day. They had to find a lot more evidence, and they went looking for it. They knew there would be a lot more investigating to do after these interviews, and sometimes suspects get sloppy when they think they are in the clear. They wanted to see if Lori and Alex would do something more to incriminate themselves, and they did. Detective Ynclan was keeping her cards close to the vest and lulling Lori into a false sense of security. She was playing dumb and "just a girl." With that said, they didn't have a crystal ball to predict what would happen next, and they couldn't make an arrest in time to save JJ and Tylee. Gilbert PD really did screw up by falling under Lori's spell. But even they sent her for a psych evaluation, and she was released. So, Lori fooled a lot of people as psychopaths often do.
Lori said her and JJ went Burger King to get him some chicken fries. This is 8:36 in the morning. Does Burger King serve chicken fries with breakfast? And, who killed Joseph Ryan? Could knowing how he died and who was around when he died tell the tale.
Do people generally have cameras in their homes pointed at their stoves so they can be "on camera not involved with the shooting"? She went all the way to Hawaii to be "not involved" with Chad's wife's death. It was to get her on camera being innocent, no question.
OH WOW! I didn't notice it was part 2! The way it began, with the judge talking about taking lunch early I didn't even second guess if it was parts 1 or 2. Maybe it's mislabeled?
@@EmmaKnightleyNo1 P.S. there is also a deleted video right next to this one on the playlist, and at the end of it also, wonder if the download went wrong somehow, or if UA-cam flagged it for some reason???
Oh Miss Ynclan, your interview with Lori was lacking any detective skills. We all watched it. You did not question Lori's actions at all, ask her why she did not JUST GIVE HIM BACK HIS PHONE. You fell for all the bs she fed you. You do not sound guilt-ridden, but I see you responsible in part for the children's deaths. You were so gullible it's unbelievable. Enabler, not investigator.
She wasn't gullible at all. She was merely holding her cards close to the vest and lulling Lori and Alex into a false sense of security. She handled the interview like a pro and didn't want Lori to think she was onto her. She knew there would be a lot more investigating to do after this. Chandler PD did an excellent job with this complex case. You just don't realize what they were up to.
The state miss a point to mention to April( Lori said she was done with JJ and Charles was Ned) if Charles was this demon ned, why would Lori be done with JJ and leave him with his dad. It would have been a good question and also show that she was a bad mom
IF this was the case, was it really necessary for Lori to have his phone in the first place? She had no right to have his phone when they were split up. Charles was right they were planning something and that was for them to take his phone to have an excuse.
Can anyone tell me, why was Lori so intent on holding onto Charles' phone, once she had got hold of it on the morning of CVs death. Why did she want it, or was it a way to cause a fight??
To start a fight yep bcos she knew what his phone meant , when MG asked her if she knew his passcode she said no the spirits gave it to me and there were pics of other women on there …MG is as crazy as Lori smh
Ok so the jurors are not to have any verbal contact with other jurors(or anyone) throughout the trial as well? Isn't that like not talking for 8 wks or something?
Rules are the same pretty much everywhere. Imagine being on a year long trial! Robert Durst trial lasted 6 months (a break in the middle because of COVID lockdown, but really).
No talking or hearing about the trial. They can speak to family and friends, go out on the weekends, etc. but the conversation has to be anything but this. The point is to prevent someone trying to influence their decision.
Lori has a Psychopathic Superiority Complex. Chris Watts killed his children and then unenrolled them from school the same day. Lori rehomed JJ's dog and continued to text from Tylee's phone. These people are not Sick they know exactly what they are doing.
@@Warwck24I think it will be worse for him, since the bodies were found in his back yard and he was sitting in his car and transferring money into his kids accounts. Plus everything about Lori points towards him since the time he came into her life, I really think he was all about money. She wanted money and power of being Mrs.prophet and leader as she was married to Chad. Made for each other.
Evil lady always smiling and laughing because she has to be ready for the camera incase someone shows up to report because she thinks that she is on stage due to the fact that she was in Beauty pagent In TEXAS in 2004and she was also on the show WEALOFFORTUNE in 2004,so she is always trying to look her best in her opinion. 😮😮😮😮
I think it started before then, and Alex's ex-wife's remarks about the family lead me to believe she was Daddy's girl and was coddled, spoiled because of her beauty. It's rapidly declining though.
I feel that the call regarding asking about Alex Cox’s arrest was unfair to let the defense ask it and not have the prosecution ask anything in regards to it. In my opinion it should have all been allowed or none. Not just one sided.
The attorneys from both prosecution and defence get together with the judge and estimate the amount of time their presentations will take. This involves getting the witnesses there on time according to presentation schedule, their openings, and closings. Then they jointly arrive at an estimate. Sometimes the trial is shorter, sometimes it is longer. This is done so the judge can schedule other cases as well as fairness to the jurors who have lives outside the trial. 😊
@@jimskeuh they scheduled for up to 8 weeks, although that was when death penalty was still on the table so it will likely be shorter. Estimate 4-6 weeks.
The standing objection is about any of the evidence and witnesses out of Arizona, because defense argues Charles death doesn't have anything to do with the kids and Tammy's. In previous hearings back in February the state explained why they needed the Arizona evidence to prove their case. The judge granted them permission to use it under Idaho's 404B even though Lori's team objected. All Lori's team can do is point that out at every opportunity.
If I had just seen ANYONE shot to death let alone an ex husband I would be so shaken and distressed I wouldn’t have been able to drive my car let alone swing by BK and take my kid to school who does that ???
Many people failed to these kids. If they putting in knowledge to their bishop maybe things would have been different. They would have been kicked off long time ago.
It’s amazing when people are brainwashed they will do whatever their leader tells them to do they cannot think for themselves, and this type of grooming starts young and that’s what this woman did to her brother, so he would do whatever she said 49:32
I'm hearing a new perspective about lori I hadn't considered before. In addition to being a malignant narcissist, she had desperate housewife syndrome. It is incredibly difficult and all consuming taking care of special needs children. And being from an extremely superstitious/religious family, she was expected to adhere to highly challenging and unequal standards of being the perfect housewife/mother. Which became another motive for her murderous behavior. Imo.
BS there are women that have to do all that and work full time. She wasn't expected to be perfect and she has never had to work for a living. She prefers to kill ex's for their life insurance money.
She left a guy who supported her in style for 13 years for a chinless cartoon character with no money. For what? Being convinced she is a goddess? Sounds more like a male mid-life crisis turned inside out.
All the 'challenges' you describe Lori having have absolutely nothing to do with the reason she killed her kids. There were plenty of people who would have willingly taken the children into their care. No excuses for her behavior. Look at the trail of money, dead bodies, multiple husbands, multiple bank accounts, multiple cell phones and the list goes on. She thought she was the powerful almighty and used her power to do all the heinous crimes she's accused of. Power, money and sex. Just like the prosecution said in the opening statement.
@Tammy and there's no power, money, or sex being the perfect little housewife is there? No goddess status in being a stay-at-home mom for special needs kid, how dare anyone leave the narcissist lori at home. She took the role at first for the money and stability, but then she got bored. And rumor has it Charles actually did cheat, waiting for confirmation but it would fit her rage . Your attitude is garbage. Open your eyes and be willing to learn. I lived with a malignant narcissist for many years and have studied cluster-b for over 15 years in recovery from the abuse.. Ordinary people tasks are taken as an insult to a narcissist. Sounds like you need to do more research. In fact, what I said was just pointing out the extremely boringly obvious. Lori didn't want to be an ordinary housewife she wanted to be a goddess.
If I was the defense I would be like I left my kids with Alex I had no I did this was going on and I had no idea the Alex was going to take them to chads when I was ask where is the kids I didn’t know exactly was to say and I thought Alex was taken care of them and I don’t know but it sounds like chad help kill my kids I don’t if actual killed them or help buried them on his land but I’m shock that my bother and chad my husband did this to me just cause they thought they might get insurance money I don’t know sound better than sure up the state case with this whole cult thing cause she can’t Deni that but she could play dumb on the who took and kill my kids that’s her best chance
Does not fly because of what she said on the jail phonecall to Colby. She always said 'They are fine' (because rid of evil spirits and dead is fine in her delusional universe), and she said 'You weren't there', IMPLYING that SHE WAS.
Did anyone else catch the whispering at the end, right after April’s testimony ended? It’s audible but my hearing isn’t the best, so I only caught part of it…..
damn judge just got her an appeal. she should be been stopped she had clearly been talking to the media. Such a bad judge. He should be removed. This is one of the worst judges in this country
I look forward after my work shift to coming home and listening to these audios thank you so much for providing them tonight. Just gonna listen in reverse part 2 then part one lol.. another 4am bed time.
I'm hearing uou there. It's after 1am in Australia and I'm just starting Part 2.
Take care of yourself!
I'm horrible I listen at work lol all my employees know that I'm obsessed 😂 if they need something, they knock and wait for me to pause it so they can talk to me! A girls got to do what a girls got to do! 😅😅
@@Beautiful-disaster13 i'm sorry how can you work and listen at the same time?
Thanks for uploading! Waited all day for this. What a case. Unbelievable.
00:05:09 Scott Cowden (firefighter)
00:14:30 Det. Ariel Werther
00:37:25 Det. Ariel Werther cross examination
00:43:30 Det. Sandra Ynclan
01:11:43 Det. Sandra Ynclan cross examination
01:22:40 April Raymond (Lori's friend)
01:47:36 April Raymond cross examination
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Thank you East Idaho News for your coverage of this trial. The prosecution is doing a great job. The defense? There is no defense. She deserves everything she's got coming
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She antagonized him started the fight. And then had her brother kill him and she went on with her with her day. WOW.
Exactly!?! No empathy or conscience!! Definition of a psychopath!!! It's ALL about Lori!?!
@@bonnienelson7373 I don't believe it's psychopathic. Lori never got her hands dirty. Alex and Chad disposed of all the unwanted. If anybody had psychopathic traits it is Chad Daybell.
I think they took his phone after he was shot.
@@T.Rex33 you think....😂😂😂
I think she is a zombie…
Thank you all for providing such high quality, dependable access to this trial. Not having it video recorded is difficult, but you have made it feel like we’re watching.
We can thank Kirtland McConkie for that🙄
It’s a shame the murder of Charles wasn’t investigated properly. Lives could have been saved.
Exactly! They didn’t start investigating until way later. Had Alex been arrested and put in jail, at least 3 more people would be alive.
So true...I also dont think Alex death was natural
You are so right! Do you know if Charles was killed in the same house that he called police for help earlier? He had reported her bizzarro and threatening behavior, as well as his concerns for the safety of his children. That had to have been a unique call, so it's outrageous that police didn't connect these dots until after the children had been murdered. So sad and senselessly. 😢 Hope Lori is found guilty and NEVER walks free. She has no conscience and is extremely dangerous.
I fell asleep around 1 a.m. watching Day 22 and woke up to Day 12 playing! Oops.
Omg the time difference between Burger King visit and the 911 call!!!
Here it is! I was wondering if it was going to be downloaded tonight. Thanks Nate & East Idaho News!
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the police woman Archibald was asked about Lori's demeaner after Charles was killed , yeah to me it was bizarre how someone can be so calm after knowing your husband has just been shot.
she didn't even pretend to be upset..
She was seeing $$$ signs. What a hoot when reality set in.
I'm sure she cried when she found out NO MONEY FOR YOU!!!
I hope I'm Chad trial they bring up that he increased Tammy's life insurance policy one month before he killed her.
Any normal person would be very upset. I guess lori isn't normal. She's Crazy.
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Nate just s a note about Lori's note taking. I learned from watching the Depp Vs Heard trial, that when you have a Hugely unpopular defendant, like Amber Heard or Lori, especially one like both of them that are unable to control their facial expressions and inappropriate laughing, smiling, smirking, etc. The defendant's attorney will advise them to take notes to busy their minds, their hands, etc. In the case of Amber Heard, the court Camara caught her doodling little things that meant nothing. At one point, the Camara even caught her pretending to write something. He pen wasn't actually even touching the paper. It made her look like she was feverishly composing rebutles to what the witnesses were testifying to. She frequently would show her note pad to her attorneys as though she was helping them with her defense. But as I said, the Camara had caught the fact that she wasn't actually writing anything. It was all an act. I have a feeling the same thing may be going on with Lori. So she can't sit there and smirk & laugh and become even more unlikable to the jury. See if you can get a glimpse of her note pad. She may not be writing anything other than I heart Chad. Or I'm going to kill Zulema when I get out of here. Or all jail and no castings/😊killings makes Lori a dull girl. 😅
Interesting. Thank you for sharing your observations.
I've also heard of lawyers making their defendants wear glasses because people perceive glasses wearers as less likely to commit crimes
This chick is a loony tune & she will never get out of prison not to mention women in prison hate child killers so she will be put in protective custody all to her self 23 hrs a day maybe her god will free her to the next world.
I agree, and I remember that about Amber Heard! Always doodling, but it turned out to be nonsense! Just one tiny thing, it's camera, not Camara. That might be you're spell check acting up! 😎
@@mysticalmargaret6105 it’s also your, not you’re , again maybe your spell check.
In the Murdaugh trial the jury deliberated for 3 hours...my guess is this jury will figure this out in less time. I kind of feel sorry for her lawyers as representing her must be difficult. She'll have a rough time in prison, but that's where she's headed.
Mr. Archibald sounds so defeated. He is also a very good lawyer and is representing Lori as well as he can, considering what he has to work with. He does nearly no cross either. Poor guy.
If Lori brings that Goddess attitude to prison, she'll get it beat out of her real quick.
Let's hope the jury comes to the right decision.
Hopefully they will see that she's been involved in All of it from the start.
@@Darksidemoon2012 true but he will present his case next.
Vicky are you that sure? It seems possible Lori was brainwashed by the cult of Chad Day bell.
Thank you for providing the audio
The Prosecutor Ms Blake is amazing
Agree. So clear, concise and confident. Love listening to her. Excellent prosecutor.
Dyanne Lynne ,I know the feeling I'm up even later due to my watching several other videos pertaining to this case so by the time I got to Part1 of the trial for April 19th and started part 2 of April 19th it was 7.02am.eastern time. I have decided to listen for an hour of the 2hr video and finish it when I get up for the day. 😊😊😊
Where is Part 1 @East Idaho News ???
m.ua-cam.com/video/cnNyYnYsdSU/v-deo.html
So, Lori tells April that Charles is a demon but she’s going to give JJ to him? Crazy af
Yeah, I noticed that too.
And the stuff Lori did to Charles (cancelling flights, siezing his car etc) - good grief!
1:03:00 so Tylee threatened to hit her DAD with a baseball bat to help her MOM (who had stolen her dads phone). 🤔 The same MOM who later killed her, cut her into pieces, set her afire, and buried her in the backyard. 🤦
I believe Lori took his phone after he was shot. Everything else was part of the story that Lori invented to justify self defense.
It's absolutely horrifying how much Tylee was protecting her mother, knowing what happened to her afterwards.
She was probably under alot of her mother's manipulation as well at that time and there's so little about Tylee coming out in this case like everyone just forgot that she existed. They only really realized she was missing while looking for JJ and the one person in her life that wasn't Lori who would have raised any alarm was being tricked by Lori into believing she as still alive. It's incredibly heartbreaking that a 16 year old girl would go missing and nobody seemed to notice and there's nobody to testify, not even any friends, as to how she might have been feeling or thinking throughout the course of all of this
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@@dowehavetoputournames2420 And yet there were so many that knew that she was deemed a zombie, and then didn't see her,...
Melanie Gibb
Melani pawlowski
Alex
Zaluma
And the countless other people in their groups that I don't remember the names of......
So Lori got JJ ready for school for Charles to pickup. Then Charles comes, gets JJ and puts him in the car, but forgot his phone so went back in to get it. Why would lori need to buy flip flops? I am positive Charles wasn’t taking JJ to school with no shoes. He probably wouldn’t take him out of the house without shoes. And JJ never got out of the car at the home after Charles put him in.
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Chandler police should have been concerned on the sequence of events reported by Lori and the time-line of events from Charles arrival at the house through to Lori's return to the house.....far MORE than the demeanor of Lori.
And the fact that Lori was so vague about what was happening and what they were arguing over. It's like there was no argument, and she couldn't come up with a decent explanation.
I’ve been following this and the Leticia Stauch case and it’s funny it seems like if anyone should’ve pleaded insane and had a chance it would be her Lori Cox-Ryan-Vallow-Daybell !
I think she tried and was shown to be sane enough to stand trial.
Lori Vallow Daybell's case was paused in June 2021 after she was declared incompetent for trial and committed to the Idaho Department of Health and Welfare. Ten months later, she was deemed competent and proceedings resumed.
I’m following Staunch too! And boy o boy… she’s another masterpiece of manipulation
Idaho doesn't have an insanity defense. You can be incompetent for trial and held by the state until you're competent, but you can't plead insanity.
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Lori had no business with Charles's phone. It's ridiculous that she wouldn't give it back to him. I wonder if it even happened. I don't believe a word that woman says.
Chandler PD definitely needs better training in conducting investigations, including interviewing witnesses
(Alex, Tylee and Lori).
Funny how there was no talk of demons when Lori was taken off in the police car..
EIN your doing a bang up job covering this trial
Come on where’s part 1
It is sad that Tylee got the BAT to defend her mother and her MOTHER could have cared less 😔 about her in return 😢
The bat scenario was the *story* Lori chose to give--but who knows what really happened?
@Martha Hicks Tylee said that too.
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@@danieldougan269 Yes, but Lori is manipulative and cunning and spent time with Tylee before they went to the police station. It's very likely that she told Tylee what to say.
My guess is Tyree later realized her uncle’s self-defense was actually a murder to get rid of Charles, and she felt that she needed to protect JJ this she moved to Idaho with them. When JJ was drugged, she started questioning Lori and Alex so they silenced her.
Tylee probably overhead Alot being around these people. Especially her mother. I remember when this first came out, there was a video (?) saying Tylee was either dark or turning into a zombie & she said "No Not me Mom " like she knew it wasn't good.
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That hair thingy she has here is not working
Part 1 where art thou?😉
@Emma Knightley Just touch the East Idaho News icon on your screen, it will bring you to that platform. Hit "videos" and you will see part 1 behind this video.
Does anyone know if Charles' family is suing the chandler pd ? Just the fact that poor Charles was shot again after on the floor shows obviously not self defense.
The police should have taken him seriously back in Jan 2019 when he told him she was saying crazy things and threatened him.. He even told them he was worried about what she could do to the kids.... Boy did he have her pegged! He freaking told them this and I can't believe they didn't take him seriously....
His family should sue the pants off the PD.
For everyone saying Chandler PD botched this case, I couldn't disagree more. They were masterful.
Murder cases in which the killer claims self-defense are notoriously difficult to prove. A case like this was even more complicated because it was a conspiracy. They would have to build their case brick by brick, very methodically. There was no way to arrest anyone that day. They had to find a lot more evidence, and they went looking for it.
They knew there would be a lot more investigating to do after these interviews, and sometimes suspects get sloppy when they think they are in the clear. They wanted to see if Lori and Alex would do something more to incriminate themselves, and they did.
Detective Ynclan was keeping her cards close to the vest and lulling Lori into a false sense of security. She was playing dumb and "just a girl."
With that said, they didn't have a crystal ball to predict what would happen next, and they couldn't make an arrest in time to save JJ and Tylee.
Gilbert PD really did screw up by falling under Lori's spell. But even they sent her for a psych evaluation, and she was released. So, Lori fooled a lot of people as psychopaths often do.
Okay... part of part 1 and all of part 2. 😮💨😮💨😮💨
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Hi Nate. What about any dna that was found?
Loris DNA, was found on the ax.
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Axe? Good grief gets worse n worse
@@Hartleymolly are you sure?
Also Zulema lies so bad, she chooses what to remember. She sure remembers what Laurie told her about when Charles was killed.
Lori said her and JJ went Burger King to get him some chicken fries. This is 8:36 in the morning. Does Burger King serve chicken fries with breakfast? And, who killed Joseph Ryan? Could knowing how he died and who was around when he died tell the tale.
BK for Chicken Fries… another lie
Do people generally have cameras in their homes pointed at their stoves so they can be "on camera not involved with the shooting"? She went all the way to Hawaii to be "not involved" with Chad's wife's death. It was to get her on camera being innocent, no question.
Where’s Part 1
OH WOW! I didn't notice it was part 2! The way it began, with the judge talking about taking lunch early I didn't even second guess if it was parts 1 or 2. Maybe it's mislabeled?
@@teresaks6983No, it is after lunch break. My guess is that Part 1 is just a longer video and takes longer to upload?
@@EmmaKnightleyNo1 Thanks, I didn't even realize 😅😮
@@EmmaKnightleyNo1 P.S. there is also a deleted video right next to this one on the playlist, and at the end of it also, wonder if the download went wrong somehow, or if UA-cam flagged it for some reason???
She didn’t even allow her kids to finish highschool or encourage it like a good mom would because she was too busy out chasing men and their money.
And using Tylee to mother JJ
Does this include Part 1 and 2?
m.ua-cam.com/video/cnNyYnYsdSU/v-deo.html
I’m from Katy. I wish they would clarify. Houston and Katy are two different city’s.
An annoying thing throughout this trial is the incessant whispering. Is that Lori? All this testimony is making her look very bad.
She's screwed..good riddance
Yes that’s Lori whispering to her attorneys, or probably performing her “castings” on the witnesses in the hopes of silencing them 😵💫
She’s done
😂😂😂😂 her thumbnail makes her look really bad......😂😂
Why can't we hear the judge speak?
Lindsey Blake is awesome!!!!
Yes she is!!
Oh Miss Ynclan, your interview with Lori was lacking any detective skills. We all watched it. You did not question Lori's actions at all, ask her why she did not JUST GIVE HIM BACK HIS PHONE. You fell for all the bs she fed you. You do not sound guilt-ridden, but I see you responsible in part for the children's deaths. You were so gullible it's unbelievable. Enabler, not investigator.
She wasn't gullible at all. She was merely holding her cards close to the vest and lulling Lori and Alex into a false sense of security. She handled the interview like a pro and didn't want Lori to think she was onto her. She knew there would be a lot more investigating to do after this.
Chandler PD did an excellent job with this complex case. You just don't realize what they were up to.
I wonder if they had blood on there shoes if they stopped at Walgreens, to by slip ons? I doq believe they ran out of house with no shoes.
Lori...Leticia...proof evil walks this world.
Prison besties!
Archibald’s voice makes me think of death.
Is it common to use the word "indicated" in place of "said" in court?
The state miss a point to mention to April( Lori said she was done with JJ and Charles was Ned) if Charles was this demon ned, why would Lori be done with JJ and leave him with his dad. It would have been a good question and also show that she was a bad mom
I thought the same thing
Why "jump drive"? Never heard that term before this case. 🤔🤨
Because it "jumps" from computer to computer. And because "thumb drive" sounds creepy. It's not made of thumbs. 😉
IF this was the case, was it really necessary for Lori to have his phone in the first place? She had no right to have his phone when they were split up. Charles was right they were planning something and that was for them to take his phone to have an excuse.
I think I ovulated when Detective Wether started talking…. 😅😊🥵😳♥️😆😆😆
Can anyone tell me, why was Lori so intent on holding onto Charles' phone, once she had got hold of it on the morning of CVs death. Why did she want it, or was it a way to cause a fight??
Little 👠 ~ Alabama
IMO ~ Lori was accusing him of having an affair. She may have wanted to make some evidence up on Charles..
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To start a fight yep bcos she knew what his phone meant , when MG asked her if she knew his passcode she said no the spirits gave it to me and there were pics of other women on there …MG is as crazy as Lori smh
What is the defense's case even?? Their case in chief is going to be a whole lot of nothing.
Ok so the jurors are not to have any verbal contact with other jurors(or anyone) throughout the trial as well? Isn't that like not talking for 8 wks or something?
Rules are the same pretty much everywhere. Imagine being on a year long trial! Robert Durst trial lasted 6 months (a break in the middle because of COVID lockdown, but really).
No talking or hearing about the trial. They can speak to family and friends, go out on the weekends, etc. but the conversation has to be anything but this. The point is to prevent someone trying to influence their decision.
Have the bodies of the children been released yet?
Steal phone, have brother double tap in chest with .45….with a hole in floor…..
Oh yeah, that’s obvious self defense 😂😂😂😂
Lori has a Psychopathic Superiority Complex. Chris Watts killed his children and then unenrolled them from school the same day. Lori rehomed JJ's dog and continued to text from Tylee's phone. These people are not Sick they know exactly what they are doing.
They sure aren't normal...
Little 👠 ~ Alabama
Maybe just plain EVIL.
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So the defence is going towards putting all Lori's crimes towards Chad, to make her look innocent.
I wonder how it will go for him as he has a large family of children 😢
@@Warwck24I think it will be worse for him, since the bodies were found in his back yard and he was sitting in his car and transferring money into his kids accounts. Plus everything about Lori points towards him since the time he came into her life, I really think he was all about money. She wanted money and power of being Mrs.prophet and leader as she was married to Chad. Made for each other.
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Evil lady always smiling and laughing because she has to be ready for the camera incase someone shows up to report because she thinks that she is on stage due to the fact that she was in Beauty pagent In TEXAS in 2004and she was also on the show WEALOFFORTUNE in 2004,so she is always trying to look her best in her opinion. 😮😮😮😮
I think it started before then, and Alex's ex-wife's remarks about the family lead me to believe she was Daddy's girl and was coddled, spoiled because of her beauty. It's rapidly declining though.
I feel that the call regarding asking about Alex Cox’s arrest was unfair to let the defense ask it and not have the prosecution ask anything in regards to it. In my opinion it should have all been allowed or none. Not just one sided.
April's testimony doesn't bode well for Melanie Gibb. So Melanie also believed that Charles had been taken over by a demon, according to April.
Clearly she did not have JJ ready for school. He didn't have shoes!
Poor JJ got dumped at school so she didn’t have to deal with him he would have known for sure something was wrong
Do they have a set amount of days for a court trial - in total?
The attorneys from both prosecution and defence get together with the judge and estimate the amount of time their presentations will take. This involves getting the witnesses there on time according to presentation schedule, their openings, and closings. Then they jointly arrive at an estimate. Sometimes the trial is shorter, sometimes it is longer. This is done so the judge can schedule other cases as well as fairness to the jurors who have lives outside the trial. 😊
@@susanelizabeth2222 how long wil this trial last
@@jimskeuh they scheduled for up to 8 weeks, although that was when death penalty was still on the table so it will likely be shorter. Estimate 4-6 weeks.
What is the standing objection
Just smh…
I wonder what this standing objection is regarding the shooting of Charles Vallow and the 1st responders testifying.
Maybe because she's not on trial for his murder?
The standing objection is about any of the evidence and witnesses out of Arizona, because defense argues Charles death doesn't have anything to do with the kids and Tammy's.
In previous hearings back in February the state explained why they needed the Arizona evidence to prove their case. The judge granted them permission to use it under Idaho's 404B even though Lori's team objected. All Lori's team can do is point that out at every opportunity.
Like who was paying the rent on unit….
Can we hear about the bullet in the floor??????
If I had just seen ANYONE shot to death let alone an ex husband I would be so shaken and distressed I wouldn’t have been able to drive my car let alone swing by BK and take my kid to school who does that ???
They were still married.
Are the jurors sequestered?
No. Judge said they may be sequestered for deliberation though.
The description…
Exhibits behavior inappropriate for situation.
One of law enforcement that designated Charles’s murder a act of self defense????????
Good judge. Leaves little room for appeal.
The defense seems to be winning many of their objections… nail biter 😬
They seem to have eaten out a lot at fast food places. Is it common to take kids to BK for breakfast … maybe I’m just old 😊
She couldn't be bothered to fix him a nice breakfast.
Help me get past the round in floor detective
How is all this AZ testimony not putting any eventual conviction at risk? Seems to be a lot more than the evidence in Idaho. Just me? 🤔🧐
Lori looks constipated in her orange is the new back clothes.
Many people failed to these kids. If they putting in knowledge to their bishop maybe things would have been different. They would have been kicked off long time ago.
It’s amazing when people are brainwashed they will do whatever their leader tells them to do they cannot think for themselves, and this type of grooming starts young and that’s what this woman did to her brother, so he would do whatever she said 49:32
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Detective Moffit…….
Easy money in Idaho for public defenders. No work required and whining is allowed.
this defense attorney might need a competence evaluation
I'm hearing a new perspective about lori I hadn't considered before. In addition to being a malignant narcissist, she had desperate housewife syndrome. It is incredibly difficult and all consuming taking care of special needs children. And being from an extremely superstitious/religious family, she was expected to adhere to highly challenging and unequal standards of being the perfect housewife/mother. Which became another motive for her murderous behavior. Imo.
BS there are women that have to do all that and work full time. She wasn't expected to be perfect and she has never had to work for a living. She prefers to kill ex's for their life insurance money.
She left a guy who supported her in style for 13 years for a chinless cartoon character with no money. For what? Being convinced she is a goddess? Sounds more like a male mid-life crisis turned inside out.
All the 'challenges' you describe Lori having have absolutely nothing to do with the reason she killed her kids. There were plenty of people who would have willingly taken the children into their care. No excuses for her behavior. Look at the trail of money, dead bodies, multiple husbands, multiple bank accounts, multiple cell phones and the list goes on. She thought she was the powerful almighty and used her power to do all the heinous crimes she's accused of. Power, money and sex. Just like the prosecution said in the opening statement.
@Tammy and there's no power, money, or sex being the perfect little housewife is there? No goddess status in being a stay-at-home mom for special needs kid, how dare anyone leave the narcissist lori at home. She took the role at first for the money and stability, but then she got bored. And rumor has it Charles actually did cheat, waiting for confirmation but it would fit her rage . Your attitude is garbage. Open your eyes and be willing to learn. I lived with a malignant narcissist for many years and have studied cluster-b for over 15 years in recovery from the abuse.. Ordinary people tasks are taken as an insult to a narcissist. Sounds like you need to do more research. In fact, what I said was just pointing out the extremely boringly obvious. Lori didn't want to be an ordinary housewife she wanted to be a goddess.
If I was the defense I would be like I left my kids with Alex I had no I did this was going on and I had no idea the Alex was going to take them to chads when I was ask where is the kids I didn’t know exactly was to say and I thought Alex was taken care of them and I don’t know but it sounds like chad help kill my kids I don’t if actual killed them or help buried them on his land but I’m shock that my bother and chad my husband did this to me just cause they thought they might get insurance money I don’t know sound better than sure up the state case with this whole cult thing cause she can’t Deni that but she could play dumb on the who took and kill my kids that’s her best chance
Does not fly because of what she said on the jail phonecall to Colby. She always said 'They are fine' (because rid of evil spirits and dead is fine in her delusional universe), and she said 'You weren't there', IMPLYING that SHE WAS.
Except there's far too many text and phone calls that show her guilt......
Did anyone else catch the whispering at the end, right after April’s testimony ended? It’s audible but my hearing isn’t the best, so I only caught part of it…..
damn judge just got her an appeal. she should be been stopped she had clearly been talking to the media. Such a bad judge. He should be removed. This is one of the worst judges in this country
That's not correct. He based his decision on the law. He's been excellent from the start.
Evil….just evil. From Alex (the executioner)…to Lori ( the instigator) …to Chad (possessed by the devil himself).