Magical Practicing Tool: Extreme Repetition
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- Опубліковано 30 січ 2023
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Welcome to LivingPianos.com, I'm Robert Estrin. Today I'm going to discuss the incredible value of extreme repetition in your piano practice. This type of practicing can be really annoying to listen to, but it's incredibly valuable. Anybody who's lived with me knows that I do a lot of this kind of practice. I find it to be one of the most helpful ways of practicing. So I thought I'd share it with you!
I love practicing like this, not only is it extremely beneficial, it drives my five family members absolutely insane, wonderful, passive agressive revenge.
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Excellent! I would say the most important part is to RELAX! Repeating over and over again, under tension, can be extremely frustrating, tiring, and do actual damage.
Superb! Correct in every detail. Wynton Marsalis used to practice just ONE note over and over (according to lore). When I was still acting in film and TV...(given time)....I would do this with a script...especially if it was a TV commercial where I was "the hero" with all the lines...... ..Such excellent counsel on your part. Thanks for the reminder.......
I’ve practiced this way most of my life - over 50 years of such practice. Unfortunately, most of it was on the saxophone, flute, and electronic wind instruments. I switched to piano 3 years ago, and I’ve done that on the piano for 3 to 6 hours a day ever since. It pays off extremely well, but it makes everyone in the house hate you. Fortunately my cats think it’s all lovely, and my practice space has at least two doors between it and most of the house, so it’s really not very loud outside of my practice room, which happens to be the “cat room.” The cats tolerate it, but they really love it when I play something like Chopin’s Nocturne in Eb, or Scriabin Opus 42 etude no. 4. They aren’t swayed by a lot of notes, real fast!
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I have been doing this while learning Nocturne Op9 No2. It is the most advanced piece I’ve ever tried (I’m just an early intermediate) but the repetitions are the only way I could learn certain passages. Glad I’m doing something right! Thank you for this video.
I've been doing this, like one really difficult measure over and over--glad to hear I'm on the right track. Thanks, Robert! Oh, also the part about arm weight--right on!
Thank you, Maestro.🌹🌹🌹🌹
This is so timely it's frightening. Thank you so much Robert.
Thank you for the lesson! Your videos are very helpfull!
As a Horn player, I “take stock” by playing one note, D flat concert (second space written A flat) to get my mental picture of my sound (a John Barrows sound). I imagine pianists might do similarly for their touch. Thank you Robert for your recent detailed videos.
Awesome! extremely useful
Will definately try this. Thank you. Super!
Take a listen to my Chopin 10/1 and that was after about 5000 repetitions, maybe more. But, you NEED a digital piano with headphones, or a felt to mute the strings. And Robert....have you listened to Cziffra's practice reels? Even one of the greatest pianists to ever live had insecure moments in easy pieces, and he needed to do the work just like any other person. So kids....DO THE WORK!!!
And Richter apparently used to practice small difficult sections 100 times before moving on.
Thanks Robert 🎉
Robert - All of your practgice tips are pure gold! Thanks for sharing this!
Thank you so much Robert! I am putting this advise to work right now with Bach's G Minor and Halvorsen's Passacaglia to get me up to speed on these two pieces. This feels like I am getting professional advice from a master at some renown conservatory. I repeat, you are the virtuous virtuoso but with no limits! I can't afford the Bosendorfer concert grand so I play a Casio Privia Px-S7000 digital piano with 400 voices and I have a big Amp attached to blast my music to the world! Take that or enjoy that! Blessings 🌹🌹🌹
Yes. When I have a difficult or new short passage to work on I will set a timer and just rep it as accurately as possible until I crack it. I go slow and strive for accuracy and just repeat repeat repeat.
Such a great teacher, so cool and useful
That example is brilliant. I can see that ‘melody’ being used to build up tension. “What will happen, will he commit the murder?” “Will the commandos be able to creep past the enemy soldiers and plant the bomb”.
Great advice. Enjoy the optimism and enthusiasm too :) Thanks for posting.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you Soo much.. my flute teacher has been encouraging me to do this. Annnd trying to relax. Which I am not good at. Work in progress 😊
Love this lesson! Thanks Robert!
I like this new format in wich you use a little fragment of the video before the intro.
That's good to hear - thanks for letting us know!
I've been practicing the first two measures of Linus and Lucy over and over to get the hand independence correct.
Practice, practice, practice!
Well done 👍
“Repetition legitimizes” as they say…
It’s funny how you breaking down the Scherzo sounds like a whole new piece it can be like that almost. True words though, slowly and repetitious in chunks can do wonders for any piece no matter the difficulty
Thank you!
Fantastic advice as usual.
Great tip, thank you.
Thank you so much
That scherzo is a buster.
That gives me hope I’ll be able to change my fingering in the Prokofiev Toccata on the measure where I discovered a wrong note I’d learned wayyyy back. If I just practice it incrementally over and over ….
I switch to using the digital piano with headphones when practicing using this method...
Excuse my naive way, but how many repetitions are you talking, in general. I know, till it´s fine, but give me a ballpark idea, please? Thanks for your video
How extreme are you talking, Robert? 20 repetitions? 50? 100?
I would say, there’s no magic number. As many as it takes. If you aren’t seeing progress, break the section down even smaller.
Work it up from a really, obnoxiously slow tempo. Little increments at a time. By the time you get within shouting distance of performance tempo, you'll have a lot of reps.