Piano Lesson - How to Develop Brilliant Octaves in Your Piano Playing
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Welcome to Living Pianos.com, I'm Robert Estrin. The subject today is about how you can develop brilliant octaves in your piano playing. It's exciting when you go to a concert and there are big octave sections, like in the Tchaikovsky B-flat minor Piano Concerto. Or, in Liszt or Chopin octave sections where both hands are playing octaves in unison. There's a power to it that is so exciting! It almost seems impossible if you've never done it before. But there are techniques that I'm going to share with you.
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These videos truly are invaluable and immensely appreciated!
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Hey Bob! it's Trevor! I was one of your students YEARS ago in Orange County. Hope you are well! I have you to thank for inspiring me to record music and create music production!
Yay, you're back on a REAL acoustic piano! I love it. (I personally prefer these over the other setup.) Thanks for making all of these videos!
Thanks Robert for another very useful tip. I appreciate all you do for your listeners!
I was just struggling with the quick triplet octaves in the brilliant section of Chopin’s Ballade 1. Good timing!
Dude me too except the end of op 10 no 5. This is posted today and is the first suggested video for me on youtube. Well I guess the Orwellian future is here :^)
Just practiced that section this evening!
@@itzelguerra2655 hows it coming along? I am definitely suffering with the specific technique there.
@@popadopalis4480 Going well. Some other tips that really help for that octave section: Isolate the fingers by playing the octave phrases with only the pinky and then only the thumb. Focus on playing the phrase as a group of octaves. Do not focus on the individual octaves from the larger phrase because this will lead to stiffness, arm fatigue, and inaccuracy. And of course, practice slowly. Good luck.
@@itzelguerra2655 thanks for the advice! I hadn't even thought of splitting the fingerings like that. Both of those sound great and am going to try them
I learned a great deal in this one. Thank you Robert.
Thank you for the lesson on octives....
Amazing! Thank you so much for sharing!
This is so helpful for taking my own students.
Thank you!
I've learnt so much just from this one video thank you.
A most interesting video. So interesting that the 14 minutes seemed like 4 minutes. Most video like this, please. 👍👍
That’s good to hear!
I love how you cover big topics in such a small amount of time. So concise and valuable!
By the way, I got a Tom Snyder flashback at 3:20 or so. At first I couldn't place who you reminded me of, but then it came to me!
Excellent videos and I have small hands! So every clue helps a lot.
Nice video Robert. I agree with your suggestions but I would add that relaxation of the arms goes a long way. Octaves are always fun and impressive. Thanks for all of your very useful suggestions.
You're the best
Robert, I have been teaching piano for 40 years, but I love learning more and more! Thank you for your helpful and inspiring videos! Regarding octave playing, I am interested in how you stay relaxed, esp. when playing fast. Thanks again!
The long modulatory passage to the major at the end of that section from the Liszt sonata you played is one of the most lovely things he ever wrote [IMO]. A very useful video. Thank you :)
Wow! That was amazing. Thank you for sharing this.
Very interesting!
I found the tip by John Brown from the "Memories of John Browning : The Lhevinne Legacy Continues (2006)" video here on UA-cam. Curling and lifting the index finger does help (it seems to open up the hand and allow for more relaxation/control) and the idea of practicing octaves with books between your armpits to help keep the elbows in....Oops, you go on to mention the 2nd finger.
What about using one or two fingers with the pinky? This was also suggested in that video.
Thanx, Maestro 🌹🌹🌹
Amazing 👍, Thank you 😊
Great video! Subbed!
Could you explain the sound setup for your piano. Hope studying this video helps my small hands with octaves. Thank you
This is very helpful, Robert! In Scott Joplin's "The Cascades", I always have to slow the tempo in the Bb second section for the octaves. Maybe now I can play at the same tempo as the first section. Exciting!
BTW--That Liszt part you played was extremely cool. Really nice.
Just sit back, relax the arm and use Robert’s suggestions, that section in the Cascades may seem daunting but it’s really fun if you can actually relax. I find it’s almost a relief to play that section compared to the other sections. Think of that section like a brass band with trombones taking the lead.
Do you support finger replacements? Many music scores provide fingerings, for example, for right hand 4-1 (or even 5-1). Meaning plays the note with fourth finger , then replace the fourth finger with the first finger, and prepare to play the next note upper the piano.
thank you so much for these valuable technique tips :-) - I don't quite 'get' the 2 arches-position in the hands - is there some kind of 'tric' to put your hands correctly in that position?
What the heck. A UA-cam flashback episode?
Now do fast (32nd or even 64th) mordant octaves!
now play the final octaves from "Le preux"
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Thank you Robert. This was excellent and very helpful for me. i had been guilty of using arm on the 8ths. You've fixed that. If i may, I have a request of you. My hands look to be about the same size as yours so i think you will understand my problem. I cannot reach a 10th. i just barely get a 9th and that is only if i play on the edge of the keys. Yet i am currently learning some music that has a lot of 10ths. I have been trying to roll the 10th with a kind of mini=leap but i am having trouble getting it right. It creates a lot of hand tension and it does not sound very good. Do you have a secret for playing tenths that you could share?
I've noticed that octaves are a little easier when I sit a little higher. Didn't Richter sit relatively high compared to other pianists? Horowitz, for example? Then again, it's difficult to say who had better octaves.
A bit of constructive criticism: You want to show how important the wrist is, but the moment you demonstrate, you switch the video to the other perspective (like 1:19 but also 2:06 etc.) which shows the wrist at the very edge of the screen. Keeping the perspective from the side would be so much more informative at that point.
Liszt took his octaves into his string writing. The result was quite unpleasant.
Lol yep!
Not all can play fast. Did you ever do a show about the test with a pencil and metronome used by pro teachers before accepting students?