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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- Today we cut some nice cherry Firewood and Test the Stihl MSA 220 C Battery Powered Chainsaw and find out how much wood you can cut on a single charge. Also had the Kubota KX-080 Excavator there to make things even easier
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i use husqwarna battery chainsaw. i like no vibration, no loud saund. it cost a lot,but work has become more pleasant.
Brushless motors have really upped the game on all types of portable power tools...
Mike, thanks for your well-explained and interesting tutorials. You are a gifted, informative, and compelling communicator!! It’s very enjoyable and instructional to watch and listen to your videos.
I've got one, first one for me. Always used gas, but was pleased with the results. My first cut was a pecan tree about 13 to 20". Carried it by the stihl dealer and they took pictures for their wall. Be safe! Beach, NC. Big I see lots of bowls and goblets in that cherry!
Mike, I like Stihl, Echo and Husqvarna. My favorite is Husqvarna. My aunt and uncle bought me the 120i this past Christmas. It is sweet! I have the older 340 and 350 gas powered saws, I love Husqvarna. The 120i has a nice 14 inch, .043 gauge bar and 3/8'' pinch chain, I'm amazed and so happy with it. I love the savE economy button. It slows the chain speed, conserving battery power but doesn't reduced to power of the machine. Two weeks ago, I fell a "hung up" sixty foot balsam fir, limbed and bucked it into twelve inch logs. 10 inches or so at the base. All in one charge with a little juice left in the battery. The third and final light was blinking but it had life left. It made a great gift!
I bought one after you got that one originally. It is wonderful! Best tool I ever bought. Thanks Mike!!!
I was skeptical of the battery powered blowers and chain saws until I saw you guys using them, I have both now and love them. I went with the 40v Ryobi blower and 14" chain saw. I love the instant on/off, less noise, and convenience. I don't use the chainsaw for large jobs but it's great for small / quick jobs like limbing / storm cleanup. They also are much less intimidating for the females, especially the chainsaw.
Same here. I had the 18V Ryobi batteries so that’s what I bought. I’m looking forward to using it this hunting season as a ride along saw.
Thats my main complaint with electric saws... they're really only good for limbing and very small stuff. The cost for the saw + batteries puts them at pro level saw pricing, which do the job significantly faster and are built significantly stronger. I also feel like electric saws dull chains much quicker because they are taking much finer chips/more passes required.
The battery stuff is not bad at all! They are making new battery’s
I cut a 24 inch poplar tree down the other day with my ryobi 14 inch chainsaw. It's capable of a lot more than we give it credit for. I almost never use my gas saws anymore.
Brilliant for team environments. The quietness makes for much easier communication.
I use mine for brushing -l Limbing and ms362 for cutting the wood
You don’t have to restart big saw while you drag brush
Scott Teske Same set-up here but with the MSA200. Use mainly in the fall and winter bushing trails for snowmobiling. Made a mount on the back of my sled for the MSA200 to carry when I ride for those quickie cuts. Stihl did a good job on design and manufacturing of their battery outdoor tools.
lasted one hour, 300s battery? Spain🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸 a greeting
I have four Stihl chain saws , and my battery Stihl is quickly becoming my favorite, don't be fooled by the quietness of it., its just as dangerous as ANY gasser ! But I like not having the gas/oil mix in my vehicle and all the grime that goes with mixing and storing fuel mix. Plus this saw is a workhorse ! You wont be disapointed
and you never buy gas again, oil to mix in, spark plugs, filters, services costs etc etc etc .....
I just got the smaller version of this saw a couple of weeks ago. Just to clean up fallen limbs and do some trimming. So far, I love it. Haven't used a full battery yet though. I was excited to see your review. Always enjoy your videos. God bless your family.
Thanks for the demonstration Mike. Hope all are well. Be safe
I got the 80 volt Kobalt and absolutely love it . It cuts fast and smoothly (Mostly Oak Logs). I asked my brother about the RPM's. I said that I didn't think it goes as fast as a gas powered chain saw. He agreed with that but it doesn't seem to make any difference. Goes through hardwood like butter. I wonder if the slower RPM would give less kickback if you accidentally bury the tip. I had an uncle 30 years ago whose blade kicked back and hit him in the face. It tore his lip up. He was lucky that was all it did. He had a shorter blade which is why I went with the 18" blade. Hearing about what happened to him has always made me nervous about using a chainsaw but I have really enjoyed using this tool. I haven't had it jump up at all. I love the automatic oilier because as a newbie I would always wonder if I'm using the right amount. Mike, would love to hear your thoughts on this when using a gas one as well as adjusting chain tightness. Heck, maybe they all use an auto oilier now - not sure. I thought this machine would be cleaner than a gas powered one with the advantage of being able to throw it in my truck and not having it leak all over. I did find a small puddle of oil under it in my garage even though this is a new product for me. Not sure if it came off the bar or if they just tend to leak. So if you have nice carpets in your truck, you'll need to throw a blanket under it or figure out some kind of case that will keep it from messing up your truck. PS. Love not having to mix gas/oil, keep separate gas containers, have plugs get fouled, etc. I bring an extra battery with me from my weed whacker and throw them both on the charger when I'm done. Very nice.
I’ve had a battery still for two years and love it. I even dropped it in the lake and got it out and it still works great.
When I'm out cutting in the woods, or by the splitter, I reach for the 220 more than any other saw. Light. Quite. Powerful. Battery lasts a long time. Not for big rounds.
I bought the msa 220-c earlier this year and it's been great. I find that I can charge my second battery while using the first and it finishes well before I need it.
Maybe you cutting wood that is very soft because I have the MSA 220 and a 500S battery and it not work like that. Test with cuts that take 90% the blade length.
@@sirvozelo1 I own a few acre wooded lot. Generally it's oak and iron wood (iron wood is smaller but super hard). I'm solo clearing branches and other stuff while doing it though so definitely plenty of non-run time for the saw. I do a touch up sharpen every other battery as well
Good morning all. The sun is returning today and maybe reach 80. Elizabeth is participating in Bocce for Special Olympics. I hope everyone stays safe and spreads good news with a positive attitude.
Have a day.
There is a privately owned place i prefer to camp at these days. They frown on using a chainsaw. But I always find dead/fallen logs that are waiting to be cleaned up or cut to burn. The electric saw is quiet and helps both me and the property owner.
A friend let me borrow a cheap soft metal axe which allowed me to cut a few pieces that lasted for 12 hours. But it was a lot of effort and I already had split logs. This is the answer.
Just picked one up yesterday. Battery tech has way improved since I was young!!! Love it
I am an old retired guy living in Vista Ca and like to turn wood. I cried watching this knowing it will be firewood. Great video!
Occasional use, no carberator to get gunked up, no mixing of fuel/oil…seems like a decent option.
I bought the Ryobi to match my batteries I already had. Same thought - great ride along saw.
@@KingsOutdoorLife Thinking of one of those myself.
Wait until summer and the toy overheats and catches fire 🔥
RadCobs thanks for the warning. Is it more likely I overheat first probably. 😂🤣😅. I don’t like sawing in Alabama heat!
@@MTnumber11 Do you know that really happened?????
I bought a Stihl hedge cutter and an MSA220c both with batteries, and I use the battery chainsaw now more than the petrol one. Having 2 batteries is a must. The most important difference I find is that the saw stops the moment you take your finger off the power, and you can lay it on the ground to move the logs in silence, and simply pick up the saw to make the next cut without trying to re-start it. Yes, I would still use the petrol saw for bigger trunks, but for the stuff most people cut and split for their wood burner, the battery saw is an easier and probably safer option.
I got the 220c a few years ago and I'm still satisfied with it
I have a Stihl MSA140c and it "lives" in my campervan, for all the traveling needs. I also have 3 larger petrol/(gas to you) chainsaws that I use for cutting my home firewood in the field. But I can easily cut a 6x4 trailer load of wood with the MSA140. I carry 2 batteries just in case, but they are quite expensive.
It’s a bit foggy here in the bluegrass but this to shall pass. It’s going to be a beautiful day....in the meantime it’s a great morning to watch Outdoors with the Morgan’s. I bought one of those saws with a spare battery. I rarely need the spare.
As a carpenter I use battery powered tools every day and I am surprised and impressed with the performance of that saw.
John Procidano
In your best case review it looked great. What happens while in the woods and if you had to fell a full grown Rock Maple with a base of 30 inches with a 18 inch bar. Then, limb up, drag the log out of the woods to have to cut to chunks on the ground. Would you be carrying a few extra batteries or rely on a gas chainsaw. This description had been done with a Stihl 300 with an 18 inch bar. For the most part the limbs/branches were the size of a large pizza.
I bought one of these saws in the spring of 2020, not because of your video, but because I saw your wife using one in one of her videos. So I bought one for my wife. I like it for all the same reasons you say; which is basically convenience. I own a couple larger gas Huskys, but this saw is great for limbing or just taking a break from the gas saws on smaller logs. With the battery and charger, they are a little pricy though. Oh and by the way, my wife still doesn't use it much. But hey, she's 64 and I'm going on 70!
Great review, Mike! I love seeing Hunter come into the scene at 5:45 standing in the doorway, supervising as he does so well! Have a great weekend everyone! ❤️💪🪓
I noticed Hunter in the background from 5:30 to 6 min timeframe, I think he’s ready for a BK run!
I have a few Stihl 36V tools including the MSA200C chainsaw and am impressed with the overall build quality and performance. Since I moved house 5 years ago I've had little use for the chainsaw and I might try to sell it - and the FSA 85 line trimmer for which I have no further use.
The tools I use regularly are the HLA 85 and HSA 66 hedgers. These are the bees knees. Exceptional performance, ergonomics and build quality when compared to those sold by brands which specialise in drills, drivers and the like. In fact I enjoy working with these tools so much that I almost wish I had a few high trees so that I could justify buying the 36V pole pruner!
However my battery [AP 300] failed after 2 years. Stihl Australia gave me the cold shoulder - claimed they hadn't had any failures blah ... blah ... but as a gesture of good faith would sell me a new AP 300 S battery for half price. Bearing in mind that this offer only came 2 weeks after I had already paid full retail for a replacement AP 300 battery and they flat out refused to give me a credit.
TL / DR: Stihl makes an excellent range of high quality, excellent performing 36 volt tools and they sell them as a premium product for a premium price. However if you're unlucky and have a failure out of warranty they'll tell you to hit the road instead of investing in brand loyalty.
It’s also an excellent idea in a suburban setting where noise restrictions are enforced. You can pretty much use that type of a saw anytime, day or night!
Nice video. At my older home this would’ve been perfect for me. My needs were few and far between so I just borrowed my fathers saw occasionally. Now I’ve got some land and cut a few cords a year so it’s a gas saw for me but this was pretty impressive. Thanks for doing it
Good demonstration. Next I would like to see how fast the 880 is compared to the 261 cutting logs in the grapple. Maybe a shorter bar than the 48".
I bought one of these and its excellent. Buy a second battery and you can coppice all day. Still the pros will roll their eyes at the thought of anything other than petrol....
Going off of MSRP pricing for the MSA 220 saw, the AP 300 battery and the charger purchased as a kit, you've got a $729.00 chainsaw for part time use. It definitely wouldn't be something I'd leave in a side by side.
If you were heavily invested in Stihl, (string trimmer, hedge trimmer, blower) it would make sense to purchase, but not Johnny homeowner.
Well said.
I have a Poulin, starts on one or two pulls. Cost me a six pack of beer and a carb kit. Keep a container of pre-mixed fuel on hand, empty the oil and fuel each time. Runs like a champ, probably 25 yrs old now.
Great clean up saw, obviously not a Stihl, but never meant to be one.
Thanks nice video, I would have preferred hearing the saw rather than the music.
If I didn’t own a 1.5 year old MS250 I would definitely go buy that
If I was purchasing a chainsaw, I would go for battery operated over gas for 2 reasons. Elimination of noise and fumes. Though they do make noise, but far less than gasolines
We have 4 battery saws. Two Stihl; two Milwaukee. Love them.
I’m 100% sold on battery chainsaws. Battery tech has come a long way! I’d like to know a comparison; how many batteries would you go thru before you’d empty a tank of gas. I like that you don’t have to pull a cord to start, it’s quiet, no mixing fuel, no engine issues... Just need to buy a supply of batteries ($$$). Thanks Mike!
I keep my gas chainsaw in the back of my Chevy Trailblazer all the time as well as a heavy chain. I live way out in the country, up in the mountains, with a lot of forests around. You can come across a fallen tree at any time. I once found a couple of trees that fell across the road down from my house that were about 15 inches across. I cut the small branches off and tossed the small branches off the side of the road and then hooked my chain onto them and drug them 1/4 mile up the road to my place and into my driveway. Took 2 trips to get all the trees. I then finished cutting them in the driveway.
Thanks for the great test. This is what I expected before buying the machine! Good job 👍
Good luck and stay in a good health.
Nice review Mike . But if I am going to Spend almost $ 500.00 on a Chainsaw , It will be a Much Better GAS One . That price is based off of The saw with a 16" Bar , Charger , Battery and One spare Battery . Also Stihl is trying to convince me by using a Battery operated Chainsaw I am saving the world . Here is what Stihl says on their own WEB PAGE ... Reduced-Emission Engine Technology - Caring for Nature: The STIHL Inc. “Caring for Nature" seal identifies its powered products that are more environmentally conscious, producing zero or low exhaust emissions. STIHL Inc. defines “low exhaust emissions" as being cleaner than EPA and/or CARB exhaust emission standards. In your Area you have all of the GE Nuclear Power Plants all along the Susquehanna River . I worked for GE from 1977 to 1988 . So HOW is having Anything Battery Operated Saving the World again ? Not to mention the stuff used to Build the Battery's come from China where they use Slave Labor to dig it out of the ground . So how am I saving the word ? Sorry , I am NOT A Believer in Battery Operated anything is saving the World . It is Making it worst . Think about it , Think About it .. LOL... I own 9 Chainsaws . I live in REDDING , CA . Where the Fires are at AGAIN ....
think about solar power..
i run a dewalt 20v saw. its the best at camp on state land were they dont allow gas saws. its quiet ,and i can get plenty of firewood for the weekend with 2- 5ah batteries. battery saws do have there place. also limbing while your in a bucket truck or lift . no fumes and quiet so you yell down to the ground crew.
I own this saw. I bought if for my Wife but it's very robust and is perfect for de-branching felled trees. Love it
Stephen R bought it for the wife, I’m sure that went over well!
I was wondering but I don't wonder any more. Thanks.
Since most of my cordless tools are Milwaukee. I bought the 18 volt 16 in Milwaukee saw. Very pleased with it.
I have owned one for 12 months with 2 A300 batteries . When new they went for ~30 mins each and now I'm lucky if it goes for 15 mins. Stalls out all the time too. I have to sharpen the chain after every use otherwise it won't cut anything.
Review it again in a year.
I'm always surprised with the dislikes on most videos. What is there to dislike in this video. If you are getting bored or whatever move on, nobody is forcing you to stick around.
@Game Bred Duramax I think people are just letting Mike they didn't like the content of the video. From what I've been told the thumbs down still get counted by UA-cam for Mike, I do not know if that is true, however!
Chris, good positive point. Remember that the average guy is calculated from the whole range of the population.
Tree huggers are good people.
35,000 views...86 dislikes.
@@coldspring624 I commented early on shortly after the video was posted. I still don't understand why they push the dislike button. It's not like there is anything controversial or objectionable
@@PEI_Guy Brand loyalty may be a motivator. Personally, I'm interested as long as it's not made in China.
Great endurance Vid! It will sell some 220’s for sure. Thumbs up!
Nice Job 👍 next time plz try 16inch hardwood 💪
That is pretty impressive, they get better all the time.
Thanks for the video. Very informative.
Mike that is Quite a bit of wood for a Battery powered saw!!👍👊
The Stihl battery equipment is popular in the resorts and condominiums in South Beach Florida. The string trimmers, hedge trimmers, blowers and pole pruners are favored because they are quiet.
Good video Mike, can’t get a better showing of that battery powered chainsaw anywhere!👍👍. You covered it real good and the proof is in the cutting. Thanks for sharing with us, keep up the good work and videos.
I have the msa140 to carry on my Quad ..it's awesome
The issue here is the price.
The battery alone is $300.00
The AP platform is not homeowner dedicated. It’s for the pro who can write of the tool.
I’m a huge Stihl fan but spending $700.00 on a saw that will last 30 min at most… it’s not like a dewalt where you have 7 batteries.
Ryobi, Makita and Cat make saws that work just as well for the fraction… plus the batteries are easier to collect on your wallet.
I’d love this saw and 5 batteries, $3500
That saw would work good for limbing. Have someone come behind with a gas powered saw and cut into firewood lengths. Lookin like rain later today here in our area. You have a wonderful Saturday. Jason from Indiana.
I have a Stihl MSA 160C and it’s been a revelation to me. I do about 20-30 cu m of firewood a year, at least half with the battery saw. It’s light, quiet and I can use it inside a barn - no fumes. I bought 2 AP200 batteries, so I can charge one while using the other, if I’m near the house. And pure serendipity: one ‘fill’ of the battery, on logs thin or thick-ish, fills my wee (0.6 cu m) trailer behind the quad. I would definitely recommend the Stihl cordless electric tool range.
I’m a wood turner and it seems a shame to burn that beautiful wood.
I got to get me one of those saws👍
I also thought he could put it on the saw mill.
I heat with wood in Alaska and see tons of applications for this saw , thanks for the review , it’s definitely on my shopping list 😊
A good battery powered device will prevent the battery from being run down to zero charge. Lithium Ion batteries do not like being run to zero, it shortens the life of the battery. I guess Stihl has good battery management technology built into the battery/saw. Good video - I get about twenty rounds from one 2AHR battery on my electric chain saw, however, I mainly use it for limbing and what not - cheers
35 chunks of wood ! ..good amount
I use to have that 40cm bar I change now for the LIGHT 04, 35 cm, not much but it got me some little more battery time and if I have a biger log I just use the MSA300 with a 45 cm bar.
I take my battery saw and cut the limbs off the trees. My back is not the best in the woods and the light weight battery saw triming limbs let's me stay out there a lot longer than doing all the work with the heavy gas saw.
God bless Stay safe
This is also a good idea I hadn't thought of )just got my cordless saw). Run the big gas saw to do the felling then shut it off and limb with the cordless saw.
Nice presentation. I have sthil batteries with a hedge trimmer, whipped snipped and a 230mm 9 inch wet saw. I have an earlier 36 volt 4 amp hour that's about 144 watt hour. Also later bought the same as your battery the 7.2 amp hour 260 watt hour battery.
I looked at this chainsaw at the sthil shop and it is impressive. You can also carry a battery back pack with different amp hour that will run all day.
So there is a lead that plugs into a battery adapter. Say for instance you are cutting lumber or hanging from a tree. This is what the saw was designed for.
The larger batteries take about 4 hours to charge.
The battery world is catering for mining industry. Also laws regarding emmisions. So more of this will come out.
I have a tree that died and needs cutting down.
I did own a kabolt 80 volt 2 amp hour chain saw. I gave it to a friend because it leaked too much.
Well even the sthil will leak oil unless you empty the oil reservuar. Did I spell that right?
Since the sthil is smaller than the kabolt and has easier functions than the kabolt. I think the chain adjustment and actually changing blades for a bigger chain is relatively easy.
Great video. Thankyou for uploading.
I still have my Dad’s blue and white Homelite XL12, but after spending an hour or so helping the son in law equipped with the Stihl 220, an extra battery pack and chain, I’m convinced . Lithium ion battery technology is mature, and this Stihl product PERFORMED . WOW , this saw is well designed and quirk free. I have had previous experience with other brands of lit ion saws that left me unimpressed. That so called tropical storm made a mess of SW CT , and this saw got quite the workout.
The battery-powered chainsaw is a one-way trip. Once you've tried it, you can't put it down anymore.
Except when the battery is dead lol
@@mrbig1022 in one hour
@@StartVisit haha yeah just tried to be witty, I haven't even needed a second battery for mine so far
I think I want to get one of these for my Dad this Xmas. He’s 77 and is starting to have trouble with his gas chainsaws.
Looking good for home kill cow should plow through the Bone's?
Hello from Charleston WV. Your comments were spot on I just purchased a Dewalt to keep in the back of my truck after trying to go to my property and couldn’t get there do to a tree across the road.
Great video. Been thinking about a battery saw for limbing and brush clean up. I agree would be perfect for a quick session after work instead of hauling out the gas saw. Stay safe and be well!
I paid $1400 AUD for one of these saws, 2 batteries and a rapid charger. How many cuts did I get with the factory new saw, fully charged….7. I also needed to clean out the cover as it was packed solid with sawdust and fill the oil container, as it was all but empty from that one short session. My MS180s will do 4 or 5 times that amounbt of cuts in similar wood.
Not for serious wood cutters IMO.
I could see Hunter in the background supervising the sawing. Nice video Mike.
Thanks, I have one ordered.
After over thirty years owning gas saws I know them pretty well and no question I'll be keeping my beloved old Stihl 460 Magnum as long as it (and I) am still running. But after my first weekend using a 16" 60V DeWalt (A step down from this nice Stihl since I already had the DeWalt batteries and charger) for lighter work I can also say that 80% of my chainsaw days will be with the little cordless saw. It's a break not having to fire up or wrestle with the lumberjack saw just to clear brush. Even better is that I have always despised fussing with carburetors.
That saws pretty impressive. I have a good battery saw and i love the convenience. Its not a replacement for gas by any means. Compared to my Stihl 391 the battery saw is like a toy. Ive gotten to finish up some jobs late in the evening with that battery saw and not piss off the entire neighborhood.
'Absolutely', you're on to it. Finally a man who can recognize what the true purpose of the saw is for, and it's not for clear felling forests, well done!
The saw sure does cut nice and fast! I’m impressed
Looks better than the Milwaukee we demoed. Our company did extensive testing for safety. Found Milwaukee blew through pair chaps like butter. Theses saws are clutch less. They require heavier chaps.
Thanks!
Great Video
Got me one of these today, love it
Yes it’s a great saw to have in the back of your truck for a down tree or to grab some wood for your back yard fire ring😎
Battery saws have come a loong way. In the future the batteries will hold more capacity - that's the only disadvantage here. Power is great, tho ;)
Do you have a rough guess of the time wise how long it took to cut that with the battery I might of missed it if it was mentioned but nice jag of wood
Mike, you should do a video on how you cleanup all your equipment. They always look brand new...
Great video mike. My in-laws don't have a wood stove anymore so they don't need a big saw anymore. But I just can get my father in law to switch to something like this. He's got an 044 stihl chainsaw and it's to him taking away his man card. Keep up the great videos.
I have a husqvarna 18 inch battery saw and love it. I cut 2 to 3 cords a year. The gas saws, would wear me out just to get them started. Would spend alot on repairing them also. Just threw them in the trash.....
I'm a first time viewer, totally impressed with this saw, WOW!! Great video, awesome presentation, I'll be watching for more of your videos!!👍👍👍👍!!!
Another chilly morning here in NE Pennsylvania
Just right for yard work. cool
Battery saws would be great for tree trimming as well. God bless
Wow that pretty fast for a cordless chain saw..but which is better m18 brushless chain saw or this stihl chain saw cordless?
Stihl makes good stuff but they're very proud of the battery powered chainsaws. Went to a local dealer to price a 16 or 18 inch saw and all he had at the time was the 12 inch bar saw. Almost fell over when he priced me the saw with the 12 bar, battery and charger $750. I'm going to keep looking.
I ended up buying the EGO 18 inch bar, 56V 5ah battery and charger for $349 at Home Depot. Watched a lot of videos, read a lot of reviews and it's a wood eatin machine with a 5 year warranty.
great tool for small jobs and with power
Lot of nwer tree cutters love them!!
Hi all , i keep one in my truck for occasional use fencing and small limbing jobs in my job as property maintenance, really useful, cheers from Taunton, somerset , uk , oh weather is lovely here few clouds but nice and warm 👍
Looks like 1/3 cord per cutting session. Not bad for home use and hone use wood cutting. If you buy 3 batteries you can do a cord a day. Nice and quiet too.
Great video by the way
Sorry to see excavator leave and didn't get to see Melissa run it. Also surprised to see how much the saw would cut.
Not fuckin bad definitely a Must Fuckin Have!!!
Nice video. The saw certainly has its uses but the cut speed and run time is slow and low. Not sure if the battery in it was 180 or 240 but that makes it expensive to keep another one or five on hand. But for homeowner use this is an excellent option when their gas would probably go bad before they used up the whole can. Not a bad product, just not for everyone and certainly doesn't replace a quality 2cycle saw for serious applications.
You will get even better results if you let the battery cycle at least 10 times