I can't help to notice that in all of his fixes he always makes the boobs bigger than they were originally. Like, if you want that for your art more power to you, but what is so wrong about having a female character without cleavage? Small chested characters deserve love too.
"HE MAKES THE BITCH BLOND . HE DETRANSITIONS THEM" HAD ME ROLLING SHDGDHDH i love love your vibes i need to check out your other vids. i absolutely agree with everything you've said in this vid, this guy makes me so annoyed 😭 completely strips every drawing of its character...
@@cryingwatercolours kooleen? I watch her..she doesn't seem like that. 🧐 ----Months later I've now realized.. ...she's exactly like that. Koolen sucks.
@CryingWatercolors , honestly, Koolean does have some good advice.. the thing is, her advice isn’t universal and mostly applies to her own style. Each time she redraws someone else’s drawing it always looks like either: A) sexy mommy or B) sexy daddy, which is fine, really, but it’s sometimes kinda sad to see a very charming drawing turn into a thirst trap.. Just my opinion of course, I still think what she does is impressive anyways (I could never pull of semi-realism, cartoonism for lifeee).
@@amaiodayaka8926 oh yeah she has *some* good advice… but yeah it’s very much directed to her style which is fine ofc but not when everyone is following them to the point… it just looks like a style challenge. ppl are losing what made their art unique, what gave it life, by following koolean and i just find it sad :’)
Oh nuh uh. This guy reminds me of my HS art teacher, who assumed everyone wanted to draw people with a realistic style... and basically ONLY euro-centric features. One of my friends in that class was a Chinese transfer student, and we sat next to each other during a self portrait project. I vividly recall the teacher walking up to us, picking up an eraser, and changing literally everything about her self portrait to make her look less like HERSELF. I dunno, something always rubs me the wrong way about art teachers or critics who think stuff like epicanthal folds, aegyo sal, eyes turned in any way that isn't perfectly straight, curly hair, thick hair, etc. are "wrong." Like no... I'm not gonna make accusations as it's not really my place, but it's a very telling bias.
He made the asian character have upturned disneyfied European eyes, and took away the fat pooch under the eye, which is a mark of beauty in Korea! Boo! This was all terrible.
@@wolvesbane_and_buttercups bro if anything black hair has more defined shapes??? like, an afro is very circular, braids and dreads hang down in chunks and are easier to define than white hair. like that's a really poor excuse. it terms of shapes, black hair is way more defined than white hair.
YUP!!! My buddy had an art teacher in high-school who insisted the students needed more *texture* in their art, and more *expression.* Soooo she tossed SAND on my friends painting, insisting it made it better. Said painting was a gift for his partner, who he's still with 10 yrs later. That teacher may have been all about Expression and Abstract Elements and Texture... but heaven forbid you have your own vision for a painting. She would change it to suit her taste before you could even tell her what you were going for.
Seriously, there’s this thing called “artsyles” and even if the artstyle is “ugly” in your opinion, it’s still not like it’s offensive and doing actual harm, god I hate cringe culture it’s so dumb, if the person in question isn’t doing /showing anything offensive or harmful such as hate towards a group/community of people then it’s fine.
The thing is, drawing conventionally attractive characters, when you got decent skill is easy. Drawing conventionally “unattractive” characters and making it look good is the real show of skill
Honestly same. I also find stylized art more difficult than realistic art, cause with realisim you know the rules and references and you can follow them which can be done with practice but with stylized you have to not only be very well aware of those rules to break them, but you have to break them in a way that looks aesthetically pleasing. Like i am not saying realistic is easy cause it isnt but man i am having so much trouble with making my own style especially if it is detailed stylized it ends up looking like hochpoch mess of anime style
The image of the DaVinci sketches where he exaggerated "ugly features" to figure out what "beauty" is pops into my head. Because those still looked really pretty
How he messin up my boy Weather Report like that bruh. like he completely missed the essence of the original piece, which captured the JoJo aesthetic and the artists own touch. I‘m sobbing
@@GoingSwimmingly not everybody knows what Jojo is. no matter how popular. additionally why would he look up something when he wouldn't know what it was supposed to be other than a drawing.
My jaw actually droppped when he detransitioned the character 😭 The fact that he "fixes" art by making it coventially pretty and completely erases the original concept is absolutely wild omg
Ohhh my good lord. Him taking someone with obvious top surgery scars and turning the character into a conventionally comic-book-sexy woman with huge bazoongas straight up made me see red. UURGGH
Yes!! Like I think it’s obvious what the person of the original artwork had in mind? And even if it wasn’t, he could ask them before doing his “fixing” …
Artists like him really take away diversity in drawings. People in real life have different faces and bodies, yet he wants every character to look the same. It's so boring.
Taking the downturned eyes on the Asian female (which is so beautiful, some Korean people have this eye shape, square and slightly downturned) and taking away the lil pooch of fat under the eye and making them big, open, upturned eye…gross. He took the diversity and ethnicity away and made it generic.
@@gildedpeahen876 yeah his "fixed" drawing isn't bad or anything, but it just isn't the same person. the negative canthal tilt isn't a mistake that artist made, it's a choice how they wanted that girl's eyes to look. same with the longer face and nose, those weren't wrong they just weren't his beauty standard
@@overgrownkudzu you hit the nail on the head, he’s just enforcing Eurocentric, modern beauty standards onto artists and saying he’s fiXiNg the drawings
I CANNOT express how annoyed I am at him completely changing the expression of the sad girl drawing, sure the position of her facial features may of been anatomically unrealistic but it made her look so expressive!
I wonder if the eyes being slightly high is to exaggerate the looking-up of her expression. Thr 1/2 1/2 1/2 rule of feature placement is general averages and the original work was still within range. It didnt cause the 'uncanny valley'by being slightly out of perfect proportions. The 'fix'was your standard vanilla pout face and I hated the fix on the eyes. Didnt just adjust placement but completely changed thwir expression! Why!
Taking away racial signifiers, useing the extremely rough face layout you get taught at eight years old as gossiple, misunderstanding the stylistic intention of artists, changing fundamentals about a character... does Kenton even like art? 😭
i feel like he's a beginner that's really good? his understanding of art seems like beginner to me, he looks very young too... he's technically good at drawing characters that are attractive to him, in his own style, but doesn't seem to understand the essence of art, it's odd
@@hibaelb8909 The character literally has breast reduction scars, he didn't even notice which says a lot about how he's just projecting his own standards into the drawing and not caring about the original artist intentions, and intentionally or not is harmful. It's not as much of a problem as if he was doing in purpose but still shows how closed-minded he is, not only cause of the detransition but because of how he's kinda saying that his way is the correct way
As a trans person myself, who has gotten top surgery, i think making them into boobs was probably just an ignorant mistake (hopefully) because i honestly didn’t recognize they were top scars at first glance, and, if someone didn’t know much about trans people (or double mastectomies for that matter at all) they probably wouldn’t recognize it either it’s still a facepalm moment, and he shouldn’t have fixed things that dramatically, i’m only trying to look at it from an optimistic standpoint
Back in my art school, whenever we asked our teachers to paint over for guidance, they'd ask us first what direction are we going for, like if the character is supposed to be cute, is it anime style, what parts are these, etc. The guy could at least take the base designs into consideration. It just seems like he just goes with what _he_ wants.
I think this is more of an issue with wanting to put out content fast and so by assuming a lot of things he makes many mistakes. Like the idea of helping people is ok, but there is poor comunication on both ends.
The fact that he changed the artstyle created by one of the biggest mangakas in the world Hirohiko Araki... And he didn't even acknowledge that the drawing is ok besides it being a bit deformed, and he drew it ALSO deformed but in an odd "semi realistic" style
Original Fanart of Weather Report: maintains a bit of the original manga’s style, but has its own unique vibe going on, and keeps Weather looking like a badass “Corrected” Weather Fan Art: Fabio as a Homestuck OC
at 4:02, where he redraws the jjba fanart, aside from the obvious way he completely destroys the face i'm *losing it* at how he misinterprets the character's horned hat thing as straight hair with horns. If you're going to, in Rin's words, warp something into a weird caricature, at least know what it's fanart of. Jesus christ
When he “fixed” the character with transition scars made me mad. The character is obviously not a woman but he made them into one, practically detransitioning the peice. All because he thought that it was “wrong” or whatever. I hate art fixers but whether or not it was intentional is in poor taste
@@Rosalin997People are going to be upset over something like this, it’s a big thing to mess up for a trans person. If it’s an well intentioned oversight that’s fine as long as he realises what he did and doesn’t do it again but it’s something that needs to be addressed.
As someone that is currently majoring in the fine arts I have had teachers that draw over some of my art before but it's never been over a stylized piece, just studies of real life people and learning proportions. If someone wants to idk improve upon their art style it is nice to have a critique then the artist make the changes themselves. All this is to say, if you want to improve and get critiques it should be on the basics not your own creativity
a teacher drew over my art once too… black felt tip scribble outlines. absolutely ruined the soft watercolour piece i was working on. a lil bit of me died that day 😂 all i asked for was some ideas and she demonstrated
@@cryingwatercolours oh my god that is horrible! Drawing over stuff is tricky enough even when you can do it in a non-destructive way (another layer on a digital piece for example) I don't get why someone would do so on a traditional piece. Just give the feedback and have the student try again ffs. Absolutely horrible
But those are art teachers whos job it is to teach you art and you chose to go to art school knowing this A random kid posting their art on instagram shouldnt be bombardered with unwanted criticism, some people just want to have fun with drawing and thats totally okay! If they ask for help sure but otherwise people just need to learn to shut up imo
I think that's a huge problem in the art community. A lot of artists think that the only good art is realism and that a more stylized artstyle is automatically bad. Which is so stupid
5:25 this one! literally took the life out of her and made her nose rlly thin and her nose bridge really obviously- basically changed the whole facial structure. first one i saw
To paraphrase my sculpture teacher, Thad Duhigg: It's my job to help you elevate your own artwork and style. If your art comes out looking just like mine, I'm failing.
I was quite shocked when he got rid of the transition markings and - like you said - detransitioned the character all of the fixing disguised as critique is bad enough, but that especially rubs me the wrong way :( (not trans myself, but still - not cool)
Even if he didnt know they were topsurgery scars and thought it was a woman, he still wouldve been "fixing" a flat chested woman by giving her huge tits. I dont even know which possibility is worse.
That top surgery one is so upsetting to me, as a trans man I love making those scars visible on my male characters because it’s a comfort to me and a way to express my ideas..and he just put the chest back on?? That’s so icky, the scars are there because they didn’t want the chest
he’s sucking all the fun parts out of the pieces. cannot be messy. can not be fun. can not be queer. even the unique outfit and unique facial structure had to be changed. he seems to not understand that “imperfections” in a character or in the art piece as a whole can be placed on purpose and mean something. these are the types of people who make me not want to do visual art. no appreciation for the experience and creation if it doesn’t look how they think art should.
"This character (The trans dude with puff sleeves) is dramatically melancholic? Mh we can't have that, let's make them solar and joyful. And let's remove the mask, change the hairstyle and change the clothing." My man, the artist specifically asked for technical tips whilst not changing the fashion.
He always tries to follow these ridged rules that should be treated more as guidelines. No one is perfectly symmetrical and always having the same proportions in your art is gonna make you develop some bad same face syndrome as he definitely has.
6:20 The eye proportion thing is good for beginners to have a rough baseline as to where the eyes should be. But that is all it is, a ROUGH baseline, lots of people (esp poc) have features that are not conforming to this art rule! When you have the basics down, you can try to mix it up a bit and slightly deviate from this guide. I agree that the eyes were a bit far from the lower features but everything else was good. It was just the eye to nose ratio.
honestly why i like it when people submit their art to be "fixed" by certain artists like jackie drujko (forgive me if i spelt her name wrong) is bc people like her don't "fix" their art the way some artists do or draw over their art with her own standards and style, but work with the person's already existing art style and give tips as to how their art would work better in a certain context, which in her case is 2d animation. there is a clear purpose in what she's fixing and it's not just an artist imposing their own standars over everyone else.
I really enjoy that you see art for what it is. Its Objective! and every art that is 'corrected' by a random , it looses what makes their art individual. Love your standing point. Have a greate day and stay critical. 💝
I remember seeing him do a ‘critique’ of a piece he thought the character was supposed to be tilting their head back and instead of helping the artist get the perspective on something like that right, he just,,, made them looking face on which rubbed me the wrong way because that’s probably what they needed help with because perspective is fucking hard
completely agree with every point you made. these aren’t critiques. these are redraws. i can’t even fathom how he even justifies these as critiques, because like you said, there is no back and forth discussion being had between himself and the artists who submit work to him. if he had the smallest amount of respect for the original works, i genuinely believe he could help fix what might be considered the weaker parts of the work while retaining the artists style and the vibe they’re going for.
people in the comments of the vid where he detransitioned the character are insisting that it's "almost impossible" to see the scars. and im here to say that's fucking bullshit. even if it was just a mistake something about that gives me such a major ick, between that and the completely unnecessary hair color change.
Jackie Droujko has good examples of how to do it right, she has actually good videos doing this. She maintains the original art entirely while using editing and liquify tool and says what she’s doing and why. Only some parts are redrawn and it’s coming from someone who is a professional character designer with a professional ability in character design, colour, lighting, posing. It just feels right, I think it can be done right. I would want some artists to do it to my art to see what they would change for their aesthetic.
Great advice! I've not seen this chap's videos but yeah, agree that you have to be careful with criticism and give yourself a chance to evolve your art organically...
i actually study fine arts, and critique is amazing for improvement. the problem i have is that he's not critiquing shit! like, this guy would be kicked from any actual college-level critique circle. one of the main things with critique is that you have to honor the artist's original intentions and help them elevate it, not just make it look more appealing.
@@aiiluves but kooleen actually critiques stuff.. she helps people with proportions and also if people didnt like their art being "roasted" why would they post it in? lol she does say "this is how _i_ would do it" not in a way to tell them, "this is how you should draw" but just giving her fans, that clearly enjoy her art, a way that she would do something.
critique is good but to give criticism you first need to understand what was something is going for, so you can then improve upon those things. he seems to completely ignore the style and subjects and just slaps some proportion on it, sometimes not even correctly.
Tbh with the detransitioned one I think he just mistook the scars for underboob or something. I feel like it would help if he communicated with the artist about what they're trying to go for first. He's also clearly not very experienced with anime styles, so he should probably just stick to critiquing styles he's comfortable with.
And that is part of the problem she is adressing, that this guy didn't seem to have even talked with their artists to even know what they were going for and therefore help them to get there.
I think the thing that makes this even funnier, is that even if that was what happened, he still inserted his own bias in when he clothed the character 😂 Like, if it was supposed to be a woman with her bacon bits hanging out, why would you change it so drastically haha. He's not really helping anyone achieve the drawing they wanted to achieve, he's helping people achieve the drawing HE wants them to achieve lol
@@cidevant002 And I mean, this artist specifically said _in the communication with the "fixer"_ they didn't want to change the fashion... The guy transformed the hip bits into gloves, removed the puffy sleeves, changed the headpiece and removed the mask, alongside with going for a joyful vibe rather than a sad one... Dude had one job.
the best and simple way to help someone to improve their art is telling: "this is the art fundamental you're missing and you should start studing this subject so then you could adapt it to on your onw style". Because composition and style is something really personal, but art fundamental is universal
I came across your video on my feed and I was intrigued by the title and figured I'd watch it. No regrets, you spit out a lot of good points and you're so damn funny.
As someone who is still a beginner in art. I would really like someone to look at my pieces and tell me what I should improve etc. but after seeing his videos I’m kinda scared lol
I think what's important is to ask about specific things you want to improve and have that person ONLY respond about those specific things. ALSO they have to give you tools so you can go yourself, find these tools & use them your self. Like, I dunno: "I want to improve my facial structure". Then I'd say, to look at facial anatomy images (real ones, not drawn ones) & take notice in how everything is placed & is tied together. Even practice placing where muscles & features should go for a bit to really get a sense of facial balance. Then when you do your own work, keep them in mind. Then it's just practice, practice, practice. People say you should do realism first before stylizing your art but I personally think that you should just do what your heart & inspiration tell you to do. You need to find joy in it & if you get bored practicing basics, then draw stuff for fun & get back to that if you want to keep studying. It's very true that basic exercises in drawing with strengthen your understanding in how to draw but there's more than 1 way to do it.
I suggest finding a community that draws the sorts of things you like! There are entire websites for some types of art, with forums and such, and people there should be able to give you really good constructive criticism from a place that understands what you're going for. Good critique, like Rin said, isn't like this. A good critique shouldn't say "See all this art? Change all of it." And it should also praise you for the things you've done well to encourage you to keep drawing the way you love.
If you want some valuable feedback, look for examples on how someone gives it before submitting. Good feedback should take into account what you want to do and your style. I was lucky because in the online course I attended the teacher really took notice on what we each wanted to do, it was very rare to have the same advice as any other student if it wasn't exclusively technical. He even gave us some names of artists to go look at based on our styles
Ideally it should be irl or at least talking to someone one on one so if they have a question or assume something you can immediately answer like if they go "oh here it looks like you were trying to do X" and then you can go "actually I was trying to do Y" that way the critique is actually useful rather than if someone just assumes you were trying to do X and then they tell you how to improve X even though that's not what you wanted to do in the first place
If someone tells you a part isn't working, they're probably right. If they tell you how to fix it, they're probably wrong. No one can art for you, your style is unique to you!
I wonder how he'd fare with my stuff, I purposefully draw features way outside the beauty canon because they're very underrepresented (and because I have them :D). It'd be funny to send a caricaturized self-portrait and end up with a beautified pretty picture 'cause that's what he likes to draw, lol.
That teal haired character that he 'fixed' was looking at an angle. Does he not understand the concept.. of someone looking down a little..? Why did he make them face up??? I'm screaming
i will never forget when i was a teen and asked an artist i was friendly with on deviantart to critique a piece i did and they proceeded to redraw the entire illustration to completely suck the life and purpose out of it. i realized then and there that a "critique" in this manner is not actually productive because of how impersonal a context-lacking redraw is.
I greatly appreciate this video! Not just from an angle of having realized that online critique is...difficult at best, but also that I think encouragement can go a very long way. It takes time for folks to learn not just how to make art, but also what art they desire to make.
YASSS I've been waiting for someone to speak up about this! The saddest thing is that (from what I've seen) soooo many people in his Tiktok comment section agree with him, some people are downright mad that he gets so much negative feedback.
i went on a bit of a ramble ahead so i just want to preface it by saying that you're really funny and i had fun watching this video despite how frustrating the actual subject was. on that note, i also really like how you express your points and how you emphasize that what he's doing doesn't work because every artist is different and has their own skill set and their own intentions and that art is something too personal to be one size fits all. i think that's a perspective that can be lacking in those kinds of "critiques," and even lacking in actual professional art teachers which SUCKS. there's so much beauty in all the different ways that people make art and express themselves through that, to try and erase that and "fix" it feels so disingenuous. i appreciate the way you see that and point it out and talk about it. have a good day! 💙
A big problem with all these “art fixers” have in common, is that they change the proportions and features to make them more white. wither they realize it or not, they are. The traditional “proper proportions” taught that are supposed to replicate the “old masters” are very Eurocentric. Not only that, but they erase the “ugliness” of characters. All of which are features that aren’t Eurocentric or realistic. Not everything needs to be pretty or happy, and they can’t understand that.
4:07 jojo fan here to tell you how badly that dude butchered the original character.. that character is weather report from jojo part 6, HE TURNED HIS HAT INTO HAIR LMAOOOOOO
One person I think who does the “drawing over art” thing well is Saito Naoki. He really goes in on the intent, and while he draws over he explains every step, how to get across what you want, and the end result always keeps the essence of the original artist
An artist i think has mastered the video art critique is Sinix Design with his Paintover Pals videos - he doesn’t paint over the entire pieces and follows the requests of the person (AND he knows what an art style is!!) I’m totally with you on your critique of this creator’s critiques and honestly the problems you listed in the beginning with video critiques as a whole.
Yess I love sinix he always tries to enhance the vibes of the original piece instead of making it fit his own aesthetic and when he changes stuff he also explains why you might want to change it that way AND he never makes it sound like his opinions are fact but rather just suggestions
he's able to recognize that there's something to improve but he can't figure out what it is so he just redraws it ☠️ in the drawing with the person with blue hair all that he had to do was to maybe bring the nose and mouth up a bit, instead he changed the whole drawing?? like how did the eye shape relate to the height of the facial features
This, this, this!! Though I had to drop out, when I was in art school we did critiques to help us on our subject. And it never addressed the style, it was always technical (i.e, I really like the composition, but think there could be more variety in shading.) And that was just us speaking, walking around our easels or drawing horses. The only time a mark got made on our work was by the professor in our beginning stages to help us with the proportions of an object by making a small dash in charcoal where a certain part of it would end.
i just wanna say i like the fact u have ur own captions bc i have fucking adhd n other things that need to get figured out and i struggle to understand some accents but omg urs is so fucking prety
As a concept I find helping people fix their art super fun, because I can see a lot I could offer at 5:26 in terms of additional shading/lighting, and maybe some tips for a stronger silhouette for the snake person character design at 8:00 but this dude is just yassifying all of them
I saw the title and and i thought this was gonna be about the character artist lady that will talk about impoving character design by redrawing characters and i was about to throw hands
I saw the art in the thumbnail and i can immediately notice that the original artist had great choice with their color, specifically with the shading. Infact I've been trying to learn this sort of shading, using desaturated and hue-shifted colors in the shadow. The sort of stylized realism that I really love Honestly my only criticism I have for their art is better application of their materials, and since its a close up which makes the hair take up somewhere like 30% of the artwork, the hair needs more attention. It has the texture of hair but not the shape of hair which kind of clashes with the style of the rest of the piece.
Art critique like this has been on the internet for ages. I remember once when I was in highschool, in like 2013 or 2014, there was a fairly popular youtuber who did "drawing classes" and "art critique" where they would essentially do the same thing, "fix" someone's drawing while explaining what they thought needed to be fixed. A big part of their content was looking at the face of a character and adjusting it--and sometimes it would be reasonable stuff, like explaining how to draw wrinkles in a more believable way--but the biggest thing that ticked me off, is they would often get a drawing of a man and say "this man's face doesn't look masculine, here's how to make them look like a man." And then they would adjust the features, maybe make the jaw bigger, or whatever. I remember commenting that I didn't understand why it was a problem for the character to look more feminine, and getting a response from someone being like "you need to know how to draw men who look like men and women who look like women, not everyone looks the same." or something to that affect. I was being treated like I was a child crying about how it's just my art style, instead of asking a real question about the efficacy of de-androgynizing a character design. Ultimately, creators like this never have the artist who drew the original image there with them to explain their intent with the piece, and that's always going to create strange assumptions that the uneducated viewers of such content will repeat and take into their own art, not realizing that it's harming them and their ability to create unique work.
Genuinely there are a million ways he could be critiquing these pieces without doing what he does- like on the last one, I know why he made the character blonde. It's totally because the value shading is all too similar, muddying an already dense design more. What he should have done is make it greyscale, demonstrate and explain value grouping (by copying and doing a side by side where he changed up the values a little while preserving the haircolor) and explain the *why* he does it. Like, in the first one? I can agree that the features on the face are a little low. But then he did shit like changing the expression, tilting the eyes, and shit that shouldn't be touched. Art critique should always cater to how a person can apply art values to their style to make it more like what they want.
I just hate when people try to push art advice onto me when I did not ask for it. Its very rude. I had one girl tell me my art looks messy when she literally drew stick figures, and it was irritating to me because I never asked for advice or said anything about her art, but she felt the need to say something about my art when I was just minding my own business drawing.
Love your accent when u get mad 😂😂 “let the bit*h be sad” Also I hate how much ego someone has to start “fixing” others ! And those who feed this ego by submitting their Art need to have some confidence in their work abit 💪🏼
There’s one woman who’s a Disney animator or something, she “fixes” art but genuinely helps the artist understand anatomy and doesn’t change anything other than the technical things, she’s super nice about it too
I saw the Weather Report thumbnail so I clicked, but I really stayed because you are SO funny. Constant one-liners, and you're also SO right about this guy. Subscribed!
This is the first ever video of yours that I'm seeing and I'm not even all the way through, but I've had to hit subscribe. Your accent, your mannerisms, your lack of patience for fuckery and directness are great... You're just really entertaining to listen to, so if you kept doing this style of video, I think it'd do pretty well!
I'd like to point something out with the character with white hair and horns. This has most definitely been said before but that is fanart if a character from jojo's bizzare adventure, his name is weather report and his hair is up in an almost pillar shape, when this guy redraws art, not only is he misunderstanding what is originally shown (which I notice he does a lot in just what you've shown here) but he also messes with the character's design which is 1. not what he was asked to do and 2. belittling.
One of my issues with a fair amount of art influencers like the critiquer being talked about is what makes them qualified? Most of the time it's, "I went to art school" or "people like my art" I mean I went to an art college and some of the teachers don't even follow what they teach, are contradictory, or are literally impossible to please unless they find something you did good, by accident. So I don't even feel art school is that good of a qualification.
I don't like the guy he seemingly just customizes characters, but f qualifications. Taste is taste. Talent is talent. Someone can be a great Artist artschool or not.
I can't help to notice that in all of his fixes he always makes the boobs bigger than they were originally. Like, if you want that for your art more power to you, but what is so wrong about having a female character without cleavage? Small chested characters deserve love too.
Bet it’s simply his lack of awareness for certain features he doesn’t fully align with as an artist
The eyes too, he always make them the same shape
9:10 ??
He should do that with the male characters, we need more man tiddies...
Bro as a member of the itty bitty titty comittee I love some flat boob rep
"HE MAKES THE BITCH BLOND . HE DETRANSITIONS THEM" HAD ME ROLLING SHDGDHDH i love love your vibes i need to check out your other vids. i absolutely agree with everything you've said in this vid, this guy makes me so annoyed 😭 completely strips every drawing of its character...
FRRR ^
"He transgenderedly gayed down the street NO MORE." 💀
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Changing the whole art in the name of improving is just friendly way to say "your art is ugly let me draw it in my own style 🥰"
this is how i feel koolean sees the world
@@cryingwatercolours kooleen? I watch her..she doesn't seem like that. 🧐
----Months later I've now realized..
...she's exactly like that. Koolen sucks.
Cough cough kooleen cough cough
@CryingWatercolors , honestly, Koolean does have some good advice.. the thing is, her advice isn’t universal and mostly applies to her own style. Each time she redraws someone else’s drawing it always looks like either: A) sexy mommy or B) sexy daddy, which is fine, really, but it’s sometimes kinda sad to see a very charming drawing turn into a thirst trap.. Just my opinion of course, I still think what she does is impressive anyways (I could never pull of semi-realism, cartoonism for lifeee).
@@amaiodayaka8926 oh yeah she has *some* good advice… but yeah it’s very much directed to her style which is fine ofc but not when everyone is following them to the point… it just looks like a style challenge. ppl are losing what made their art unique, what gave it life, by following koolean and i just find it sad :’)
Oh nuh uh. This guy reminds me of my HS art teacher, who assumed everyone wanted to draw people with a realistic style... and basically ONLY euro-centric features. One of my friends in that class was a Chinese transfer student, and we sat next to each other during a self portrait project. I vividly recall the teacher walking up to us, picking up an eraser, and changing literally everything about her self portrait to make her look less like HERSELF. I dunno, something always rubs me the wrong way about art teachers or critics who think stuff like epicanthal folds, aegyo sal, eyes turned in any way that isn't perfectly straight, curly hair, thick hair, etc. are "wrong." Like no... I'm not gonna make accusations as it's not really my place, but it's a very telling bias.
He made the asian character have upturned disneyfied European eyes, and took away the fat pooch under the eye, which is a mark of beauty in Korea! Boo! This was all terrible.
@@wolvesbane_and_buttercups bro if anything black hair has more defined shapes??? like, an afro is very circular, braids and dreads hang down in chunks and are easier to define than white hair. like that's a really poor excuse. it terms of shapes, black hair is way more defined than white hair.
@@k4nd1incyb3rsp4c3 right??? it was so weird and nobody liked her
Wtf how is the art teacher allowed to physically take a student’s artwork and change it? Like they can give tips but like…what?
YUP!!! My buddy had an art teacher in high-school who insisted the students needed more *texture* in their art, and more *expression.* Soooo she tossed SAND on my friends painting, insisting it made it better. Said painting was a gift for his partner, who he's still with 10 yrs later. That teacher may have been all about Expression and Abstract Elements and Texture... but heaven forbid you have your own vision for a painting. She would change it to suit her taste before you could even tell her what you were going for.
There’s a difference between helping someone be a better artist vs helping them be a better kenton Scott.
this is a great way to word it. this is gonna stick with me
Seriously, there’s this thing called “artsyles” and even if the artstyle is “ugly” in your opinion, it’s still not like it’s offensive and doing actual harm, god I hate cringe culture it’s so dumb, if the person in question isn’t doing /showing anything offensive or harmful such as hate towards a group/community of people then it’s fine.
This! So true!!
This comment👏
Dude.
The thing is, drawing conventionally attractive characters, when you got decent skill is easy. Drawing conventionally “unattractive” characters and making it look good is the real show of skill
Honestly same. I also find stylized art more difficult than realistic art, cause with realisim you know the rules and references and you can follow them which can be done with practice but with stylized you have to not only be very well aware of those rules to break them, but you have to break them in a way that looks aesthetically pleasing. Like i am not saying realistic is easy cause it isnt but man i am having so much trouble with making my own style especially if it is detailed stylized it ends up looking like hochpoch mess of anime style
@@keeratkahlon9035 yeah as an artist i'm really struggling to get the spot right in the realm of stylized things.
Yep!!
The image of the DaVinci sketches where he exaggerated "ugly features" to figure out what "beauty" is pops into my head. Because those still looked really pretty
@@error-try-again-laterliterally a lot of twitter artists lmao
How he messin up my boy Weather Report like that bruh. like he completely missed the essence of the original piece, which captured the JoJo aesthetic and the artists own touch. I‘m sobbing
I thought it was so obvious that the op was tryna go for a jojo like art style, how did he miss that😭
@@otakuweeb8557 not everybody knows Jojo.
@@GoingSwimmingly not everybody knows what Jojo is. no matter how popular. additionally why would he look up something when he wouldn't know what it was supposed to be other than a drawing.
I very much agree weather deserves more than that 😭😭
#justiceforweather
My jaw actually droppped when he detransitioned the character 😭 The fact that he "fixes" art by making it coventially pretty and completely erases the original concept is absolutely wild omg
He doesn’t pay attention enough to the art
@- glitchbug. 💫 I'm an invasive species 😌
"conventionally pretty" I'm not so sure about that one... Did you see the first fix she showed?
I swear if he “fixes” my art- I WILL do- that son of a b-! Politely 😊
Glad he doesn’t go after random artists who might be content creators… 😅
Ohhh my good lord. Him taking someone with obvious top surgery scars and turning the character into a conventionally comic-book-sexy woman with huge bazoongas straight up made me see red. UURGGH
Yes!! Like I think it’s obvious what the person of the original artwork had in mind? And even if it wasn’t, he could ask them before doing his “fixing” …
@@Prrrprrt If you're going to be "correcting" someone publicly, you have the responsibility to know what you're looking at.
It's the transphobia for me
@@Prrrprrt Those are very obvious scars what
@@sophitiaofhyrule not trynna be rude but I’ve thought those were boobs too but I’ve never seen transition scars so
Artists like him really take away diversity in drawings. People in real life have different faces and bodies, yet he wants every character to look the same. It's so boring.
Taking the downturned eyes on the Asian female (which is so beautiful, some Korean people have this eye shape, square and slightly downturned) and taking away the lil pooch of fat under the eye and making them big, open, upturned eye…gross. He took the diversity and ethnicity away and made it generic.
@@gildedpeahen876 yeah his "fixed" drawing isn't bad or anything, but it just isn't the same person. the negative canthal tilt isn't a mistake that artist made, it's a choice how they wanted that girl's eyes to look. same with the longer face and nose, those weren't wrong they just weren't his beauty standard
@@overgrownkudzu you hit the nail on the head, he’s just enforcing Eurocentric, modern beauty standards onto artists and saying he’s fiXiNg the drawings
Yeah oh my god when he said positive canthal tilt or whatever I was like oh my god he's removing her intentional eyes
I CANNOT express how annoyed I am at him completely changing the expression of the sad girl drawing, sure the position of her facial features may of been anatomically unrealistic but it made her look so expressive!
I wonder if the eyes being slightly high is to exaggerate the looking-up of her expression. Thr 1/2 1/2 1/2 rule of feature placement is general averages and the original work was still within range. It didnt cause the 'uncanny valley'by being slightly out of perfect proportions. The 'fix'was your standard vanilla pout face and I hated the fix on the eyes. Didnt just adjust placement but completely changed thwir expression! Why!
Taking away racial signifiers, useing the extremely rough face layout you get taught at eight years old as gossiple, misunderstanding the stylistic intention of artists, changing fundamentals about a character... does Kenton even like art? 😭
i feel like he's a beginner that's really good? his understanding of art seems like beginner to me, he looks very young too... he's technically good at drawing characters that are attractive to him, in his own style, but doesn't seem to understand the essence of art, it's odd
Oh my god when they detransitioned the character I lost it 😭💀💀 THAT WAS SO UNNECESSARY?????
But like he didn’t know. The artist in the comments said that it was okay
@@hibaelb8909 That still makes it unnecesary.
@@cidevant002 he didn’t do it on purpose. If he did it on purpose then we would have a problem
@@hibaelb8909 yeah but it just shows how careless he is. he barely pays attention to the characters actual features.
@@hibaelb8909 The character literally has breast reduction scars, he didn't even notice which says a lot about how he's just projecting his own standards into the drawing and not caring about the original artist intentions, and intentionally or not is harmful. It's not as much of a problem as if he was doing in purpose but still shows how closed-minded he is, not only cause of the detransition but because of how he's kinda saying that his way is the correct way
As a trans person myself, who has gotten top surgery, i think making them into boobs was probably just an ignorant mistake (hopefully) because i honestly didn’t recognize they were top scars at first glance, and, if someone didn’t know much about trans people (or double mastectomies for that matter at all) they probably wouldn’t recognize it either
it’s still a facepalm moment, and he shouldn’t have fixed things that dramatically, i’m only trying to look at it from an optimistic standpoint
Obviously it was a simple mistake but it means he didn’t communicate with the original artist at all before redrawing their entire piece
Back in my art school, whenever we asked our teachers to paint over for guidance, they'd ask us first what direction are we going for, like if the character is supposed to be cute, is it anime style, what parts are these, etc. The guy could at least take the base designs into consideration. It just seems like he just goes with what _he_ wants.
I think this is more of an issue with wanting to put out content fast and so by assuming a lot of things he makes many mistakes. Like the idea of helping people is ok, but there is poor comunication on both ends.
The fact that he changed the artstyle created by one of the biggest mangakas in the world Hirohiko Araki... And he didn't even acknowledge that the drawing is ok besides it being a bit deformed, and he drew it ALSO deformed but in an odd "semi realistic" style
He straight up gave Weather a Habsburg jaw
looks like the most recent episode of American Dad where Stan got facial reconstruction surgery (Saving Face)
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If they’re going to do these things they should change their title from “fixing” or “critiquing” your art to REDRAWING you art in my style.
They won't bc their goal is to humiliate you by saying they made your art better
Original Fanart of Weather Report:
maintains a bit of the original manga’s style, but has its own unique vibe going on, and keeps Weather looking like a badass
“Corrected” Weather Fan Art:
Fabio as a Homestuck OC
EXACTLY!
Nah, he entered the Habsburg lineage with that protruding jaw
Poor Weather...
Tbh both are kinda bad
@@jksupergamersure the original art wasn’t the best but he removed all the jojo parts
at 4:02, where he redraws the jjba fanart, aside from the obvious way he completely destroys the face i'm *losing it* at how he misinterprets the character's horned hat thing as straight hair with horns. If you're going to, in Rin's words, warp something into a weird caricature, at least know what it's fanart of. Jesus christ
When he “fixed” the character with transition scars made me mad. The character is obviously not a woman but he made them into one, practically detransitioning the peice. All because he thought that it was “wrong” or whatever. I hate art fixers but whether or not it was intentional is in poor taste
Exactly! Even if he "didn't know", it just proves that he doesn't communicate with the artist at all.
@@soup5634I didn’t know either 🤷♀️ not everyone noticed it
@@Rosalin997People are going to be upset over something like this, it’s a big thing to mess up for a trans person. If it’s an well intentioned oversight that’s fine as long as he realises what he did and doesn’t do it again but it’s something that needs to be addressed.
@@Rosalin997no shit you weren't asked to critique the art, he was. he drew over it. no excuse, hes just bad at what he does.
@@Dancinglemon if you feel offended by every little thing, it'd be better if you go to therapist instead of "transitioning"
As someone that is currently majoring in the fine arts I have had teachers that draw over some of my art before but it's never been over a stylized piece, just studies of real life people and learning proportions. If someone wants to idk improve upon their art style it is nice to have a critique then the artist make the changes themselves. All this is to say, if you want to improve and get critiques it should be on the basics not your own creativity
a teacher drew over my art once too… black felt tip scribble outlines. absolutely ruined the soft watercolour piece i was working on. a lil bit of me died that day 😂 all i asked for was some ideas and she demonstrated
@@cryingwatercolours oh my god... at least use the same materials
@@cryingwatercolours oh my god that is horrible! Drawing over stuff is tricky enough even when you can do it in a non-destructive way (another layer on a digital piece for example) I don't get why someone would do so on a traditional piece. Just give the feedback and have the student try again ffs. Absolutely horrible
@@PthumerianDusk I agree, imo redraws and corrections should be done digitally or on tracing paper
But those are art teachers whos job it is to teach you art and you chose to go to art school knowing this
A random kid posting their art on instagram shouldnt be bombardered with unwanted criticism, some people just want to have fun with drawing and thats totally okay! If they ask for help sure but otherwise people just need to learn to shut up imo
I think that's a huge problem in the art community. A lot of artists think that the only good art is realism and that a more stylized artstyle is automatically bad. Which is so stupid
He's not giving any sort of critique that the person can use to improve, he's just changing it to what he likes.
5:25 this one! literally took the life out of her and made her nose rlly thin and her nose bridge really obviously- basically changed the whole facial structure. first one i saw
To paraphrase my sculpture teacher, Thad Duhigg:
It's my job to help you elevate your own artwork and style. If your art comes out looking just like mine, I'm failing.
He is helping. Hes showing people what absolutely NOT to do 😂
He’s completely ruined countless pieces of beautiful pieces.
I was quite shocked when he got rid of the transition markings and - like you said - detransitioned the character
all of the fixing disguised as critique is bad enough, but that especially rubs me the wrong way :(
(not trans myself, but still - not cool)
As a trans ftm person I agree. It’s not cool at all.
@@riverofchaos13 it wasnt on purpose
@@materialgrowIl still it’s not cool regardless if it was on purpose or not
i think it’s likely he just didn’t know, but imo its still a facepalm moment lol
Even if he didnt know they were topsurgery scars and thought it was a woman, he still wouldve been "fixing" a flat chested woman by giving her huge tits. I dont even know which possibility is worse.
That top surgery one is so upsetting to me, as a trans man I love making those scars visible on my male characters because it’s a comfort to me and a way to express my ideas..and he just put the chest back on?? That’s so icky, the scars are there because they didn’t want the chest
he’s sucking all the fun parts out of the pieces. cannot be messy. can not be fun. can not be queer.
even the unique outfit and unique facial structure had to be changed.
he seems to not understand that “imperfections” in a character or in the art piece as a whole can be placed on purpose and mean something.
these are the types of people who make me not want to do visual art. no appreciation for the experience and creation if it doesn’t look how they think art should.
"This character (The trans dude with puff sleeves) is dramatically melancholic? Mh we can't have that, let's make them solar and joyful. And let's remove the mask, change the hairstyle and change the clothing."
My man, the artist specifically asked for technical tips whilst not changing the fashion.
He always tries to follow these ridged rules that should be treated more as guidelines. No one is perfectly symmetrical and always having the same proportions in your art is gonna make you develop some bad same face syndrome as he definitely has.
6:20
The eye proportion thing is good for beginners to have a rough baseline as to where the eyes should be.
But that is all it is, a ROUGH baseline, lots of people (esp poc) have features that are not conforming to this art rule! When you have the basics down, you can try to mix it up a bit and slightly deviate from this guide.
I agree that the eyes were a bit far from the lower features but everything else was good. It was just the eye to nose ratio.
honestly why i like it when people submit their art to be "fixed" by certain artists like jackie drujko (forgive me if i spelt her name wrong) is bc people like her don't "fix" their art the way some artists do or draw over their art with her own standards and style, but work with the person's already existing art style and give tips as to how their art would work better in a certain context, which in her case is 2d animation. there is a clear purpose in what she's fixing and it's not just an artist imposing their own standars over everyone else.
This!! I love her critiques and "fix" videos. They're insanely helpful.
She was the first person I thought of who does this "the right way"
I hope that one day an *actual* realism artist does the same to his art
I really enjoy that you see art for what it is. Its Objective! and every art that is 'corrected' by a random , it looses what makes their art individual. Love your standing point. Have a greate day and stay critical.
💝
i think you mean subjective!!
@@mnpxdrm yea, I got lost in translation. Modern art is rather Subjective while old, (classical art) were objective. c: thx
I remember seeing him do a ‘critique’ of a piece he thought the character was supposed to be tilting their head back and instead of helping the artist get the perspective on something like that right, he just,,, made them looking face on which rubbed me the wrong way because that’s probably what they needed help with because perspective is fucking hard
4:04 - He changed the hat into hair... Why would you bother "fixing" something when you clearly have no idea what it's meant to be like... 💀💀💀
HE UN-WEATHERED WEATHER REPORT 💀 he thought weathers hat thing was weird hair 😭
Your hand has more attitude than my entire body will ever have
THE WAY HE FUCKED UP WEATHER REPORT HAS ME SOBBING
Ikkk
completely agree with every point you made. these aren’t critiques. these are redraws. i can’t even fathom how he even justifies these as critiques, because like you said, there is no back and forth discussion being had between himself and the artists who submit work to him. if he had the smallest amount of respect for the original works, i genuinely believe he could help fix what might be considered the weaker parts of the work while retaining the artists style and the vibe they’re going for.
people in the comments of the vid where he detransitioned the character are insisting that it's "almost impossible" to see the scars. and im here to say that's fucking bullshit. even if it was just a mistake something about that gives me such a major ick, between that and the completely unnecessary hair color change.
I can’t beleive tjis… bro literally got rid of a characters top surgery?? also on the last example he made the chest bigger??? this man is weird..
Jackie Droujko has good examples of how to do it right, she has actually good videos doing this. She maintains the original art entirely while using editing and liquify tool and says what she’s doing and why. Only some parts are redrawn and it’s coming from someone who is a professional character designer with a professional ability in character design, colour, lighting, posing. It just feels right, I think it can be done right. I would want some artists to do it to my art to see what they would change for their aesthetic.
Great advice! I've not seen this chap's videos but yeah, agree that you have to be careful with criticism and give yourself a chance to evolve your art organically...
@@aiiluves what?
i actually study fine arts, and critique is amazing for improvement. the problem i have is that he's not critiquing shit! like, this guy would be kicked from any actual college-level critique circle. one of the main things with critique is that you have to honor the artist's original intentions and help them elevate it, not just make it look more appealing.
@@aiiluves but kooleen actually critiques stuff.. she helps people with proportions and also if people didnt like their art being "roasted" why would they post it in? lol
she does say "this is how _i_ would do it" not in a way to tell them, "this is how you should draw" but just giving her fans, that clearly enjoy her art, a way that she would do something.
@@unoriginalpersonALT yeahh sorry bout that deleted it tho, the comment
critique is good but to give criticism you first need to understand what was something is going for, so you can then improve upon those things. he seems to completely ignore the style and subjects and just slaps some proportion on it, sometimes not even correctly.
I'm about to cry, he just changed the whole identity of those characters. 💀😭
9:57 im a trans guy and ur so right like wtf is he doing to the character designs 😭
i agree "A good Critique is done from a place of respect for the initial art."
Tbh with the detransitioned one I think he just mistook the scars for underboob or something. I feel like it would help if he communicated with the artist about what they're trying to go for first. He's also clearly not very experienced with anime styles, so he should probably just stick to critiquing styles he's comfortable with.
And that is part of the problem she is adressing, that this guy didn't seem to have even talked with their artists to even know what they were going for and therefore help them to get there.
How does the look like an under boob? It’s clearly a flat chested person
I think the thing that makes this even funnier, is that even if that was what happened, he still inserted his own bias in when he clothed the character 😂 Like, if it was supposed to be a woman with her bacon bits hanging out, why would you change it so drastically haha. He's not really helping anyone achieve the drawing they wanted to achieve, he's helping people achieve the drawing HE wants them to achieve lol
@@cidevant002 And I mean, this artist specifically said _in the communication with the "fixer"_ they didn't want to change the fashion... The guy transformed the hip bits into gloves, removed the puffy sleeves, changed the headpiece and removed the mask, alongside with going for a joyful vibe rather than a sad one...
Dude had one job.
@@NWolfsson bro is an average McDonalds worker 💀
the best and simple way to help someone to improve their art is telling: "this is the art fundamental you're missing and you should start studing this subject so then you could adapt it to on your onw style". Because composition and style is something really personal, but art fundamental is universal
I came across your video on my feed and I was intrigued by the title and figured I'd watch it. No regrets, you spit out a lot of good points and you're so damn funny.
the way he went:"I normalised the facial features" LIKE EXCUSE YOU? Normalised???? nah man open your eyes and see
As someone who is still a beginner in art. I would really like someone to look at my pieces and tell me what I should improve etc. but after seeing his videos I’m kinda scared lol
I think what's important is to ask about specific things you want to improve and have that person ONLY respond about those specific things. ALSO they have to give you tools so you can go yourself, find these tools & use them your self.
Like, I dunno: "I want to improve my facial structure". Then I'd say, to look at facial anatomy images (real ones, not drawn ones) & take notice in how everything is placed & is tied together. Even practice placing where muscles & features should go for a bit to really get a sense of facial balance. Then when you do your own work, keep them in mind.
Then it's just practice, practice, practice. People say you should do realism first before stylizing your art but I personally think that you should just do what your heart & inspiration tell you to do. You need to find joy in it & if you get bored practicing basics, then draw stuff for fun & get back to that if you want to keep studying. It's very true that basic exercises in drawing with strengthen your understanding in how to draw but there's more than 1 way to do it.
I suggest finding a community that draws the sorts of things you like! There are entire websites for some types of art, with forums and such, and people there should be able to give you really good constructive criticism from a place that understands what you're going for. Good critique, like Rin said, isn't like this. A good critique shouldn't say "See all this art? Change all of it." And it should also praise you for the things you've done well to encourage you to keep drawing the way you love.
@Rowan Crane You know what's up! Drawing as to be fun & personal. Otherwise, might as well use AI art for soulless "pretty" pictures.
If you want some valuable feedback, look for examples on how someone gives it before submitting. Good feedback should take into account what you want to do and your style. I was lucky because in the online course I attended the teacher really took notice on what we each wanted to do, it was very rare to have the same advice as any other student if it wasn't exclusively technical. He even gave us some names of artists to go look at based on our styles
Ideally it should be irl or at least talking to someone one on one so if they have a question or assume something you can immediately answer like if they go "oh here it looks like you were trying to do X" and then you can go "actually I was trying to do Y" that way the critique is actually useful rather than if someone just assumes you were trying to do X and then they tell you how to improve X even though that's not what you wanted to do in the first place
7:19 As a person who has aegyosal mistaken for eye bags them being removed severely pains me and I will now explode.
not only did he take away the whole idea with the face being obscured BUT THE DETRANSITION?
HELLO?
Asking for red lining is really helpful. Without re-doing the whole thing and just explaining anatomy is really helpful.
4:02 Aint no way he mades Weather Reports hat in to hair 😭
FR THATS WILD
If someone tells you a part isn't working, they're probably right. If they tell you how to fix it, they're probably wrong. No one can art for you, your style is unique to you!
I wonder how he'd fare with my stuff, I purposefully draw features way outside the beauty canon because they're very underrepresented (and because I have them :D). It'd be funny to send a caricaturized self-portrait and end up with a beautified pretty picture 'cause that's what he likes to draw, lol.
Yassified underrepresented features 💀
"sometimes bitches be sad" is now immediately becoming a part of my daily vocabulary
That teal haired character that he 'fixed' was looking at an angle. Does he not understand the concept.. of someone looking down a little..? Why did he make them face up??? I'm screaming
i will never forget when i was a teen and asked an artist i was friendly with on deviantart to critique a piece i did and they proceeded to redraw the entire illustration to completely suck the life and purpose out of it. i realized then and there that a "critique" in this manner is not actually productive because of how impersonal a context-lacking redraw is.
You deserve millions of followers. Keep going. I'm not even an artist - I can hardly draw a stick figure, but this is entertaining as f***.
'He messes up the vibes.' - Couldn't agree more :D
I greatly appreciate this video! Not just from an angle of having realized that online critique is...difficult at best, but also that I think encouragement can go a very long way. It takes time for folks to learn not just how to make art, but also what art they desire to make.
why dont they just call it "redrawing ur art in my own style" that would be sm nicer
YASSS I've been waiting for someone to speak up about this!
The saddest thing is that (from what I've seen) soooo many people in his Tiktok comment section agree with him, some people are downright mad that he gets so much negative feedback.
People ask for something new, and then when they get it they suddenly don’t want it anymore. ITS SO HARD TO PLEASE ANYONE ANYMORE
i went on a bit of a ramble ahead so i just want to preface it by saying that you're really funny and i had fun watching this video despite how frustrating the actual subject was. on that note,
i also really like how you express your points and how you emphasize that what he's doing doesn't work because every artist is different and has their own skill set and their own intentions and that art is something too personal to be one size fits all. i think that's a perspective that can be lacking in those kinds of "critiques," and even lacking in actual professional art teachers which SUCKS. there's so much beauty in all the different ways that people make art and express themselves through that, to try and erase that and "fix" it feels so disingenuous.
i appreciate the way you see that and point it out and talk about it. have a good day! 💙
LOOK AT HOW HE MASSACRED WEATHER REPORT I AM CRYING 😭 😭
NAHHHHH WHEN HE DETRANSITIONED THE CHARACTER 😭😭😭
A big problem with all these “art fixers” have in common, is that they change the proportions and features to make them more white. wither they realize it or not, they are. The traditional “proper proportions” taught that are supposed to replicate the “old masters” are very Eurocentric. Not only that, but they erase the “ugliness” of characters. All of which are features that aren’t Eurocentric or realistic. Not everything needs to be pretty or happy, and they can’t understand that.
the intensity of the eye contact in this video is awesome, I've never felt less blind. Thank you Rin!
4:07 jojo fan here to tell you how badly that dude butchered the original character.. that character is weather report from jojo part 6, HE TURNED HIS HAT INTO HAIR LMAOOOOOO
I cant get over that he re-titty-fied that one drawing. so many other issues, but like fr??
One person I think who does the “drawing over art” thing well is Saito Naoki.
He really goes in on the intent, and while he draws over he explains every step, how to get across what you want, and the end result always keeps the essence of the original artist
An artist i think has mastered the video art critique is Sinix Design with his Paintover Pals videos - he doesn’t paint over the entire pieces and follows the requests of the person (AND he knows what an art style is!!)
I’m totally with you on your critique of this creator’s critiques and honestly the problems you listed in the beginning with video critiques as a whole.
Yess I love sinix he always tries to enhance the vibes of the original piece instead of making it fit his own aesthetic and when he changes stuff he also explains why you might want to change it that way AND he never makes it sound like his opinions are fact but rather just suggestions
6:40 “I’ve normalized the facial features” the caucasity
Love your energy, your personality, and your art !! and you're so pretty too !!!!
he's able to recognize that there's something to improve but he can't figure out what it is so he just redraws it ☠️
in the drawing with the person with blue hair all that he had to do was to maybe bring the nose and mouth up a bit, instead he changed the whole drawing?? like how did the eye shape relate to the height of the facial features
This, this, this!! Though I had to drop out, when I was in art school we did critiques to help us on our subject. And it never addressed the style, it was always technical (i.e, I really like the composition, but think there could be more variety in shading.) And that was just us speaking, walking around our easels or drawing horses. The only time a mark got made on our work was by the professor in our beginning stages to help us with the proportions of an object by making a small dash in charcoal where a certain part of it would end.
i just wanna say i like the fact u have ur own captions bc i have fucking adhd n other things that need to get figured out and i struggle to understand some accents but omg urs is so fucking prety
As a concept I find helping people fix their art super fun, because I can see a lot I could offer at 5:26 in terms of additional shading/lighting, and maybe some tips for a stronger silhouette for the snake person character design at 8:00
but this dude is just yassifying all of them
The de-transition just pissed me off. As a trans guy that really just made my blood boil.
Bro turned Weather Report into Meteorological Announcement 💀
I saw the title and and i thought this was gonna be about the character artist lady that will talk about impoving character design by redrawing characters and i was about to throw hands
BRO WHAT DID HE DO TO MY BOY WEATHER REPORT 😭😭
DUDE "FIXED" THE HAIRSTYLE AND EVERYTHING 😭😭
I saw the art in the thumbnail and i can immediately notice that the original artist had great choice with their color, specifically with the shading. Infact I've been trying to learn this sort of shading, using desaturated and hue-shifted colors in the shadow. The sort of stylized realism that I really love
Honestly my only criticism I have for their art is better application of their materials, and since its a close up which makes the hair take up somewhere like 30% of the artwork, the hair needs more attention. It has the texture of hair but not the shape of hair which kind of clashes with the style of the rest of the piece.
Art critique like this has been on the internet for ages. I remember once when I was in highschool, in like 2013 or 2014, there was a fairly popular youtuber who did "drawing classes" and "art critique" where they would essentially do the same thing, "fix" someone's drawing while explaining what they thought needed to be fixed. A big part of their content was looking at the face of a character and adjusting it--and sometimes it would be reasonable stuff, like explaining how to draw wrinkles in a more believable way--but the biggest thing that ticked me off, is they would often get a drawing of a man and say "this man's face doesn't look masculine, here's how to make them look like a man." And then they would adjust the features, maybe make the jaw bigger, or whatever. I remember commenting that I didn't understand why it was a problem for the character to look more feminine, and getting a response from someone being like "you need to know how to draw men who look like men and women who look like women, not everyone looks the same." or something to that affect. I was being treated like I was a child crying about how it's just my art style, instead of asking a real question about the efficacy of de-androgynizing a character design. Ultimately, creators like this never have the artist who drew the original image there with them to explain their intent with the piece, and that's always going to create strange assumptions that the uneducated viewers of such content will repeat and take into their own art, not realizing that it's harming them and their ability to create unique work.
Genuinely there are a million ways he could be critiquing these pieces without doing what he does- like on the last one, I know why he made the character blonde. It's totally because the value shading is all too similar, muddying an already dense design more. What he should have done is make it greyscale, demonstrate and explain value grouping (by copying and doing a side by side where he changed up the values a little while preserving the haircolor) and explain the *why* he does it. Like, in the first one? I can agree that the features on the face are a little low. But then he did shit like changing the expression, tilting the eyes, and shit that shouldn't be touched. Art critique should always cater to how a person can apply art values to their style to make it more like what they want.
I just hate when people try to push art advice onto me when I did not ask for it. Its very rude. I had one girl tell me my art looks messy when she literally drew stick figures, and it was irritating to me because I never asked for advice or said anything about her art, but she felt the need to say something about my art when I was just minding my own business drawing.
Love your accent when u get mad 😂😂 “let the bit*h be sad”
Also I hate how much ego someone has to start “fixing” others !
And those who feed this ego by submitting their Art need to have some confidence in their work abit 💪🏼
his art style is literally "pretty bitches only" /neg
There’s one woman who’s a Disney animator or something, she “fixes” art but genuinely helps the artist understand anatomy and doesn’t change anything other than the technical things, she’s super nice about it too
I saw the Weather Report thumbnail so I clicked, but I really stayed because you are SO funny. Constant one-liners, and you're also SO right about this guy. Subscribed!
bruh when i heard "i introduced some positive canthal tilt" i was bursting with laughter. He sounds like a looks maxxer
This is the first ever video of yours that I'm seeing and I'm not even all the way through, but I've had to hit subscribe. Your accent, your mannerisms, your lack of patience for fuckery and directness are great... You're just really entertaining to listen to, so if you kept doing this style of video, I think it'd do pretty well!
I feel like I am being yelled at by a cute French mother. Thank you🥹🥹🥹
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I'd like to point something out with the character with white hair and horns. This has most definitely been said before but that is fanart if a character from jojo's bizzare adventure, his name is weather report and his hair is up in an almost pillar shape, when this guy redraws art, not only is he misunderstanding what is originally shown (which I notice he does a lot in just what you've shown here) but he also messes with the character's design which is 1. not what he was asked to do and 2. belittling.
One of my issues with a fair amount of art influencers like the critiquer being talked about is what makes them qualified? Most of the time it's, "I went to art school" or "people like my art" I mean I went to an art college and some of the teachers don't even follow what they teach, are contradictory, or are literally impossible to please unless they find something you did good, by accident. So I don't even feel art school is that good of a qualification.
I don't like the guy he seemingly just customizes characters, but f qualifications. Taste is taste. Talent is talent. Someone can be a great Artist artschool or not.
8:30 HE TRANSGENDEREDLY GAYED DOWN THE STREET NO MORE 😭😭