WHAT is Keychron Thinking!?
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Keychron just made one of their best mechanical keyboards... But it's the Lemokey P1 and its CHEAPER than their other keyboards?!
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can you try out the lemokey l3 please
@HipyoTech can you check out the hyperX alloy 60 please? i've heard it's a nice keyboard but i don't know for sure. it also seems pretty good for the money!
checkout the hyperX alloy origins 60???
I don't mean to seem beggy, but alas, I would really like to run a custom keyboard by you here in the comment section and you can tell me if you think it's good, and very possibly make an Akko vid on it? Pros and cons? It would get lots of views because a lot of people like Akko. If that is not for you it's fine, I am just honoured for getting a like from you and you replying was enough to make my day, thank you so much, keep Hipyo-ing!
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Keychron has had force break mod on all their aluminum keyboards since at least 2022. They even re-released the Q1 (version 2) with a forcebreak mod because of the pinginess of their Q1 design. People overtighten the screws and compress the silicone force break to where the aluminum still comes in direct contact. If you have a keychron board and think it's pingy, try loosening the screws 1/4 to 1/2 turn.
I’ll also say I actually believe it was Scott from Keybored (a keyboard content creator) who invented (or was at least the first to show it) the force break mod specifically to help with case resonance back when the Keychron Q1 came out years ago! keychron got that feedback presumably more or less at the inception of their aluminum two piece boards.
Guess what its still pingy. Keychron sucks ass for its price. sounds like a tuning fork unless you stuff it with so much foam the assembly starts flexing upwards
Luminkey is way better for half the price.
@@forg.a Because it's all about the sound. Which Luminkey model is way better for half the price?
wow keychron thanks for listening to Hipyo, very cool! Also keychron, can you please make a lilac board thanks
i feel like they are following the trend of other chinese brands(like rainy75, qk75v2 and hi75) on this new one. i know people form west doesnt know about this, and most people dont even know that keychron is a chinese brand.
I just slapped Akko Tokyo World Tour caps on my custom Q2 and called it a day (I do have a lavender GMK67 for on the road)
My Q5 had a force break mod from the factory, think they've been doing it for a little while now
Yup, my Q1(v2) has it too. It seems they started doing it in the second gen of all the aluminium models.
@@laniusdev Q1 Pro also have it.
At least for the latter part of 2022, my Q2 ISO KIT has it from factory as well
I paused right after Hipyo mentioned force break mod, because; is it still a mod if the manufacturer does it?
Wait- Hipyo- Saying a keyboard is GOOD? -no. TOO GOOD? If you are being held against your will by glarses for complimenting Cherry Mx Browns say this sentence in your next video because I know it's something you would never say: ASUS is climbing the keyboard ladder and becoming a strong competitor to many large keyboard brands such as Akko.- This will stand out to your LOVELY VEIWERS because Akko will *ALWAYS* stand tall and never be defeated. (Wink wink pls custom Akko keyboard video/s wink wink)
I just did an akko vid ahaha
@@HipyoTech I saw and tysm, your channel means so much to me as a way to escape from everyday life and get a chance to retreat to the dark nerdy corners of my brain (almost all of it) and get absorbed into the Hipyo goodness. I have not used many keyboards, a total of two, but am getting a custom Akko keyboard that I am making with my friend and would maybe like to run it by you as it is the first one i am making and want it to be good. If not, thanks for replying. Just seen this vid, very good and I see why you like it. Keep doing what you're doing and continue to be brilliant.
@@_pacman_1445good for u
@@HipyoTechwe want more 🗣️🔥
I've had two sets of Akko switches develop double presses within a few months of use, I don't think that well of them (switches at least)
Here is a challenge for you. Try to find the best ISO keyboard - get back to me when you give up cause we are shit out of luck.
just use an ANSI 💀
Zoom75 supports ANSI and ISO.
Keychron is the best ISO keyboard
@@zero__i7796 Why? Many countries use ISO, like 80% of them
@@MacheteSideral6969 most of the US uses QWERTY 100%. doesn't mean it's a good layout.
You need to review all the improvements they've included in the Q1 HE - The double-rail gateron nebula switches are absolutely heavenly. RTINGS reviewed the new receiver (1000 MHz polling) and you can see in their performance graph how well it works! I'm definitely excited for more of their lineup to include this module.
This is it right here. I'm going to buy one eventually. I was in contact with them and they told me they're going to release more HE boards in the coming months. I'm waiting for a 65%
I got one and love it!!! 😍
Crazy timing, I just received mine. Looked like an absolute steal.
I love mine. Sounds better than my Q1. I got an ND75 but got used to the knob. I do have a Bridge75 on the way. Finally got shipped.
What do u think of it?
@@HipyoTechI’m not a super enthusiast but for $150 i love mine with the banana switches
@@HipyoTechcan you make a video on what mods you would recommend we do for a better experience with this keyboard
@@HipyoTech I'll know soon, need to wait one more day to receive the switches I plan to use and then I can give my thoughts.
I was just shopping for a clean, lowkey-looking keyboard and it was so hard to find a plain case that's not outlandishly expensive. So I'm glad Keychron's cases are plain. If you want something else, I feel like there's plenty of other good options that you reviewed in this channel.
hey Hipyo, i just upgraded my logitech g pro tkl from blue to yellow switches, lubed them, made my own plate foam, did the tape mod and added case foam, lubed the stabs and oh my goodness does it sound good now. thanks for the inspiration, tips and tricks!!
Did the end of this video abruptly cut off for anyone else?
Must be force break.
@@drissakelnya3794 yeah I thought it was funny 🤣
@HipyoTech It was pretty funny, but should I buy this or the Womier sk75? And if it is this one should I get the brown red or yellow keys?
Actually because of price competition, Keychron has a lot of brands in China. Include Keychron(渴创), James Donkey（贱驴），SKN，Jingzao（京造）（Keychorn is taking OEM part for JD)，Keychron is there flagship brand, target overseas market, and other brands are taking China market, offer reasonable price products. This one looks like SKN or James Donkey for overseas market.
Very important to point out that Keychron recently added encryption to their 2.4 GHz connections via a firmware update for the dongle. This puts them leagues ahead of all the other Chinese brands as none of the rest have encryption. The only other viable options are gaming brands like Logitech and Corsair.
They need to make more 96%/1800 layout keyboards; I think I stick to my Asus Scope 2 96 wireless for the moment! (Which I got for 105€ new on sale)
wow keychron thank you
for listening to Hipyo, very cool!
Also keychron, can you
please make a lilac board thanks
Separating the down motion (key compress) and key return (key rebound sound) with longer pause would make the sound test so much better and this review perfect.
We all know that o-ring will silent the compression of the key, but how to silent key rebound?
Well done.
Honestly the Bridge75 still looks like a better deal, it's $85 prebuilt and has pretty much all the features of the Lemokey and sounds better
checking it out soon tm
No knob
But has it QMK/VIA support for that money
6:43 sound test
I hate to be ‘that person’ but: I bought the Keychron for a writing project that was starting to make me want to throw my MacBook out the window… and I was NOT expecting it to be ‘as good’ as people said it would be. It was NOT as good as people made it sound. It was better. WAY better.
15 months ago I would have said this was all nonsense, but now I am a fan!
Obligatory please give your thoughts on the Ajazz AK820 pro comment. Seriously it's a $50 board made of plastic that could almost pass for aluminum with how thick and heavy it is.
It's even got flippy feet, a LCD screen, and knob??? The software is also nominally... good? Sure VIA support would have been better, but most of this works well enough (not the options to change the LCD screen, that's a mess).
But it's the sound that comes off this thing that blows me away. I'm using your coffee keycaps with HMX Poro Linear Switches from Kinetic Labs with this board and the sound coming from this is pure heaven.
I found my forever keyboard, the RK84 is awesome, I changed the switches to AKKO Lavender V3 Pro and got a foam kit lubed the stabilizers and I'm in heaven.
AKKOOOOOO!!! YEEEEEEEEE
@@_pacman_1445 Lol
@@michaelboyer82 Akko is best, no one is better. -sir Alfred spront, 1463
Bought this after watching your video. This is now the nicest keyboard I've ever owned after replacing the switches. Thank you for this
Are you gonna make a full comparison video going over the pros and cons over each keyboard?
I own a Keychron K10 that I uses to make my video with. It's a decent keyboard, but my workstation is currently in my bedroom. And every night before I fall asleep, I just hear the keys crackle up. I don’t know why it does it, but I’m so used to hearing it now. It’s just a part of my sleeping schedule, so I don’t really want to clean it.
That's so interesting hahahaha
I’m a simple man: Keychron Q6 Max + Q0 Max is my endgame. Yes, I’m also a dual-wield numpad enjoyer.
The configurator software of Keychron is a nice bonus, but it's very limited compared to what you can do with other Keyboards that have visual configurations, like the Dygma Defy or the Moonlander.
Have a Keychron V1 with Brown switches for more than a year now, love this thing
Would like to see the Q14 Max (Alice Southpaw design, harharhar), but I guess I can wait 'til it arrives at my place xD
I love my Keychron!
I have a metal Q3 for the weekends and a K17 has a daily. Both kick ass.
Worth mentioning it is a BT keyboard imo. As a both windows and mac user this is a huge plus cause I would intend to use it with the 2.4hz adapter on windows and BT for mac. Big ups there. Worth the money on that regard
HYPYO!! redragon is making enthusiast keyboards now!!!! pls review!!!!!
After looking into a new keyboard and watching your vids I eventually came around this one! I’ve had it for a month or so now and it’s my first custom (even though I got it prebuilt) and I love it! I’m not brave enough into modding it yet but maybe one day!
Switches and keycaps are the easiest change to make, and you don't have to unscrew anything or pry anything apart. Just use a keycap and switch puller.
@@arthurwintersight7868 What switches should I use?
@@Logan-nl4ws - Depends. Do you want silent switches, clicky switches, linear switches, or tactile switches? The feel and noise profile is different on each, and there are tons of varieties in all four. I would start with some reviews on different switch types.
I'm using Durock Silent Dolphin switches, which are a bit expensive, but my keyboard is a lot quieter since adding them in, and I don't regret the purchase.
Low key want a north facing version of the keychron keyboards (I'm a sucker for shine through)
Check out that super greasy fingerprint below the space bar at 4:48. That thing is a fingerprint magnet.
lol he did say he is super sweaty
I clicked and it just told me to download War Thunder for free.
I've been keyboard hunting for 5 weeks now and i've learned a few things. The hobby is a huge disappointment and pain in the rear. When you think you found your keyboard you find out its been sold out for months maybe even years. The used market is still bad because those keyboards you found are now going for double the price. Also, if you do find one in stock that ticks all the boxes the board is severely overpriced at $300-500+ its absolutely crazy. So instead of getting a nice unique board i'll end up with another keychron because theyr're in stock and have a volume knob. I wanted a zoom75 but because of how its sold its never in stock for more than a few days if that lol. But your channel has helped me with some pointers and definitely how to mod things effectively and on a budget.
My favourite keyboard and you upload it the day after my birthday. Thanks hippo :)
i really hope they come out with a 96% version of this keyboard as that's what I mainly use and I'd like to switch to a keychron as my daily driver (i do prefer the numpad as I have it memorized and it makes it easier for any number-based data entry that I have to do)
I’m currently working on building my first custom keyboard with a royal kludge r75 and putting on some different key caps and you and switch and click are my biggest inspiration.
Man... I wish Keychron releases those keycaps in market.
I bought their low profile keyboard. And I honestly think it will be the keyword that I rock for a long time
Love my keychron and have never looked back
I have k8 pro since november 2022 and I'm still happy with it
when there are (and have been) super high quality stock switches on the market for years, I find it staggering that so many prebuilts (especially above $100) ship with mediocre to bad switches. I’d just be shocked if 99% of people buying at this price point wouldn’t be happier with gateron milky yellows (if there’s a need for RGB LED diffusion) or many of the HMX and Bsun offerings. Transparent polycarbonate top housings almost always sound thin it seems.
I very much want an in depth review on the magnetic keyboards. There are others, but please start with Keychron QX HE series. (I am partial to a TKL and a Q0 keypad combination, but I think I'd get the point of a review with a 75% or whatever.)
The rest of my comment is about the Lemokey L3 which I own and I am pretty happy with. Before that KB, I mained a Keychron K8 which I modded/customized, but was never really happy with.
I have a Lemokey L3. That is a TKL, knob KB, with 2.4GHz, BT support for up to 3 devices. I have the Keychron Red switches ... which are "fine." I wish they were quieter, I want silence in fact, but you know ... real life. It's a pretty good KB. Aside from replacing keycaps and adding O-rings to make up for my own heavy handedness ... it's stock.
Yes it has a force break, but I have not needed to open it so I can't confirm what the force break is made from. I can confirm it is ping free. Also it weighs a LOT. Much more than my MacBook Pro 16". Seriously it feels like 4Kg. (8.8lbs for my fellow Americans)
I got an early version ... and the wireless features were problematic for a while - wouldn't connect or would randomly disconnect. After a couple of firmware updates it settled down and became reliable and "driverless." I can recommend it now.
I don't like the keycap sets it had available... I don't understand the obsession with RGB backlighting paired with SOLID no shine through keycaps. Sorry - I think shine through keycaps need to be the default ... I can turn off the backlight if I don't want to see the legends.
I ended up getting side facing keycaps ... a similar set are now an option on the LemoKey site. Mine were a set I got from Amazon, and I repurposed some extra keys I had from a spare set of the K8 stock keycaps for the MacOS function keys. These are still not "end-game" keycaps, but they are shine-through, and they have an unusual look that makes them worthwhile and eye catching.
I had Keycheone keyboards before but once I bought the Leogob Hi75 I am not bouying another keyboard
I want to tell this to everyone everywhere. I have two with BBKs and OEM Caps. The feel and sound is soooo perfect
I've got a Keychron K3 Pro V2 RGB. I don't know, but I really like it for working and gaming. The only thing is: new switches only can be found on their site. I don't know about caps, didn't try to change it yet - but I will since the original ones are ABS that get greasy very very easily.
Any Gateron or Nuphy low profile 2.0 switches should work (I've changed the larger keys to Gateron low profile bananas for some extra feedback compared to the browns on my K3 Max), for keycaps most work as long as the attacking stem is at the same level as the key's skirt - otherwise the skirt will start hitting the keyboard plate. Womier and XVX have pretty good low profile options if you don't need non-UK ISO. If you want low profile non-UK ISO keycaps, you're pretty much out of luck.
ISO CREW LET'S GOOOO
What in the world was that cut at the end? 😄
Yeah I thought that the video started buffering since I was just listening to it and not watching.
Got mine, the spacebar is hitting the switch before bottoming out. Feels pretty bad. Switching to a different spacebar fixed it. Interesting issue
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LOL i got my keychron for 60 bucks because of good timing and a wired keeb, keychron does weekly discounts on different models of keebs that they sell
at 5:21 there is a type on the table here that has been updated on the Lemokey website, the Banana switches should say 57g not 47g
Im thinking of backing the new Keychron K2 HE special edition in white.
I've had a Corsair K95 Platinum XT with brown switches for a few years, but I want a smaller keyboard and a keyboard in white. I came across it and the aesthetic will fit very well with the white and wood finish.
Ive just got absolutely no idea if ill actually like the damn thing LOL. I mainly game, but pretty casually now days.
Pretty new to keybaords tbh, only had a Razer Blackwidow Ultimate Stealth (before they made their own switches too!) before my current keyboard, which i also had for years.
Lemokey sounds soooo much like a "let's make an entry level low cost brand and keep Keychron aside to go nuts on price later" so now I'm fully expecting a ludicrous keyboard from Keychron under keychron with a software you download with Lemokey using a forked qmk/via online easier to maintain
I just bought keychain q1 max, and it feels great while typing. It sounds like marbles
I think I'll wait for Keychron to redesign their L3 (as well as a price drop or discount deal) then have it as my home unit, and have the K8 Pro as my studio keyboard (now cleaned with Akko V3 Creamy Yellow Pros in it)... but this tempts me to try out a 75%, tbh... even though what I do always compels me to have a full-sized or TKL.
this is my first enthusiast keyboard and i love it. i got it a about a month ago. did the tap mode and durock v3 stabs and CK pastel lemons and im super impressed! the web page is the most user friendly and has a tone of features. the build quality is also very very good.
I got my Keychron K10 Pro for about 150$ Canadian. Probably the best Keyboard I've ever used.
I feel so seen with the acknowledgment of number pads
you could get a stand alone number pad. keyboards with builtin number pads are like sporks, they do both jobs with exceptional mediocrity
@@reedoken6143 pary more money, take up more space. No thank you
@@reedoken6143 I don't need more shit on my desk. I'll take the spork.
I ordered a Keychron Q1 Pro ISO CH 2 months ago. Today I otdered the ISO barebone Lemokey P1 Pro also with ISO CH keycaps. Damn why only Keychron provide ISO CH keyboards ???? I love the design of 8bitiso but.... Only ANSI ... Why !????
I don't want to change my typing layout. Where on earth are the other ISO keyboard brands? (Please no Logitech)
Looks identical to my new Keychron V3 Pro... Same colors and everything.
Hmmm interesting. I've never really cared for Keychron boards but I am in the market for an inexpensive 75% with a knob. Been looking at the NJ80. I love the Rainy 75 but really need a knob (I'm always in need of convenient volume adjusting). I'm kinda getting tired of my GMMK Pro that I've been modding over the years; I like it and put a lot of work into it, but I really want to try something different, especially since the mechanical keyboard landscape has changed so much over the last couple years since I started with this one.
I would like to hear your take on the Q1 HE. I like the idea of being able to customise the actuation point but want to know how it feels to use compared to traditional linears.
This or the V Max series? Asking for a friend 👀.
$34 to get a much heavier metal keyboard but without the extra receiver. There was already barely any difference between the Q1 Max and the V1 Max. The V1 Max only has one color too. I went with the P1 Pro because metal and blue!
At this point there have been so many good Keyboards around the 100 mark that I've just lost track of them. Any chance you'd like to make a small ranking list of your personal favourites for different factors? Out of the box / modabillity / sound / feeling / wireless / whatever you'd like to rank them on?
@@6thXero yeah! I plan on making something like that in October! (There's a few more coming out 😜)
do a vid on the epo maker 75, if you have, sorry! I personally think it is brilliant for the price. One of the best perhaps.
I have my eye on the Gamakay LK75, but im really going to miss the shine through RGB I have on my logitech keyboard. I want to see the letters on my keys, not the space underneath.
Sometime it's a bit frustrating... I'm "just" looking for an 100% and maybe some extra keys, wireless (not (only) BT), QMK/VIA keyboard, optionally with a knob that preferebly is blue. Something like the Lemokey L3 or P1 but bigger or the Keychron Q6 Max but in blue and with a knob... and not breaking the bank? Something, that's good enough, sounding and feeling good.
I guess, I still have to patient...? Hopefully, one day I'll own my perfect keyboard :D
sweaty finger guy
Yooooo why can’t this premiere now! Perfect time (if you live in Australia)
I see a Home key, but no End key. Anyway you can press End with this thing?
Keychron's get an End key (5 more keys total) with their (series)3 versions i.e. Keychron Q3 Max, Keychron V3 Pro, Lemokey L3, there is no Lemokey P3 yet unfortunately. You can always reprogram another key to behave as End, though
Just got the Womier SK75, and I'm loving it. It's so far beyond my old membrane keyboard it's not funny. I've used my friend's Keychron too, and those stabilisers are pretty rattly.
I wonder did they took the SKN Bluebird 75 and turned it into Lemokey P1. Everything from the antenna position, USB plug and the shape of the knob is the same.
Well I was hoping this was going to be a look at Keychron's hall effect keyboard but this was a pleasant surprise. Though I would still like to see a review of Keychron's hall effect keyboard.
you should do a video shooting out a few different HE keyboards soundwise and feel wise! A lot of people have done the videos just purely on gamer things and thats it. Maybe, keychron, drunk deer, wooting, etc..
Your thought's on the V Max series (I got a V6 Max)?
It could be much better if there were 'End' key too
Looking at the brand, there also seems to be a lack of wireless options. There is one tenkey version, but only wired
TIL Keychron is $100USD to America. This is the first time something is cheaper in Australia!
Wow the competiton has been ruthless to Keychron.
They were the best cost/benefit just a year ago. Now they are like in 10th place? lol
I feel sorry for them
Still waiting for the Keychron 1”Q1 HE review and I just saw Wooting bringing 80HE🎉
"Buy our lemon!"
I wanted orange, it gave me lemon-lime!
This might sound crazy hipyo, but use softsoap aloe vera, and only that soap when you wash your hands! It cured 15 years of sweaty palms for me. Avoid dish soap where ever possible, wear gloves doing dishes
i recently bought a q12, couldnt be happier
I need someone to test the new HE boards. Pwnage and Melgeek have new HE boards that LOOK gorgeous, especially the made68 pro
In ALL of those keyboards, I just miss the numbers section.
This video hurts. Because back in February I bought a Q1 Max
The Lemokey is not better than the Q1 Max. Dude must be high
? Q1 max definitely build and sound better
you never tried the Attack shark M87 pro for real for 50 bucks this keyboard is absolutely amazing!
I really like the 75% keyboards but the fact that I normally use a ISO-ES layout means that I can mostly only get Keychron keyboards… so I’ve been thinking that maybe I can buy the barebones and make my first custom keyboard, and that way I could make the cons of the keyboard better, which are the switches and keycaps… only thing is that ISO-ES keycaps are as expensive as the keyboard itself hahaha
I had the same issue (ISO-UK) and I bought the Lemokey P1 for that exact reason, mines been great so far
Needs a 100% keyboard layout that's low-profile.
As a gamer, I don't care about mechanical keyboards as much anymore. The build quality improved massively over the last 10 years with almost every brand.
Now more important seem to be the software behind it. Wooting and Razer are ahead of everyone else.
Big plus for Wooting, to even give an update to my old gen 1 keyboard.
Razer software is full of malware. Worse experience ever. After I got a blue screen of death when installing their software, never ever again I bought anything razer related.
Looks like the recent wave of $100 75% aluminum gasket mount keyboards - Rainy75, Bridge75, Womier SK75....
the glarses "whoo yeah" 🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
I would love a Keychron or Nuphy to take on Wooting directly
Wow, you really made the video right after I got my P1 Pro. No idea why they just made more appealing Q1 Max. Granted, I don't have a Q1 Max to compare to...but what else could this really be missing that's worth that much more? Also, it's BLUE!!!!
Sir, I like my stinky num pad.
There is one thing that makes this 75% better than any of the others... ISO version.
Huh wut, you've got Tannoy Gold now? congratulations, looks like your channel is doing really well, it seems.
great video, and I enjoy watching your stuff since I'm new to the hobby. I have tested a LOT of switches lately to start seeing what I like. Keychron, Cherry, HTX, etc. I actually really like the Gat banana switches. Gives me the tactile bump I like with enough click to smile. But not enough click to make my wife or clients gets made at me haha. Granted there are some others Ive kind of liked, but at double the price. Which isn't enough to want to use them. Its all preference, just thought I'd share since it seems like you dont like any of the keychron switches haha.
One side note I couldnt figure out though, was what the difference in those super banana switches and the ones Gat banana switches? hit the topic for 3 sec and moved on and I really wanted to know lol. Thing I dislike about the hobby is how crazy the switch names all are and some the have the same name by different maker or slight different name.. I which there was a super index of switches.