2021 KTM390 ADVENTURE Modifications and Long Term Test
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Jimmy Lewis gives the @DirtBikeTest @KTM 390 Adventure lots of attention with proper modifications to address some of the bike's shortcomings. It makes it much more capable with these sensible upgrades.
Parts List:
Dubya Custom Wheel Set $1899.95 (www.dubyausa.com/)
Coober USA Power Kit $584.99 (cooberecu.com/...)
Rottweiler Performance: (www.rottweiler...)
Headlight Brace Set $49.95
Passenger Peg Luggage Strap $39.95
Rear Brake Master Cylinder Guard Kit $59.95
Touratech USA Extreme Waterproof Saddlebags $399.95 (touratech-usa....)
Rekluse Radius X Centrifugal Clutch Kit $713.99 (rekluse.com/)
Doubletake Mirrors $130.00 (www.doubletake...)
Kenda Big Blocks $220.00 (www.kendatire....)
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0:21 intro
1:56 footpegs
2:58 Skid plate
4:03 wheels
5:34 tires
6:41 ecu control
9:15 handlebars
10:13 mirrors
10:33 rottweiler freebies
11:23 saddle bags (aftermarket clutch shown)
12:10 exhaust protector
12:39 wrap-up start
12:47 suspension
13:20 fork issues
13:42 tft issues
14:19 battery issue
14:58 abs/mtc delete
15:32 final wrapup
15:43 top speed
16:06 clutch remembered
17:29 final final wrapup
Thanks a ton. You rock.
nice bike indeed but i hate how it looks at front:(
I love mine. Ride it within its limitations and it is a very competent and capable bike. Throw camping gear on and hit the backcountry trails. BTW, Hyperpro has progressive fork springs and tunable shock.
Matt, love your videos!
Keep em coming! 👊🏽
yes! and your video about the hyperpro made me think about buying them!
I ordered them after seeing Matt's Instagram post on them.
Worth every penny. They removed the fork dive I had when heavy breaking with my Motocamping gear on the bike.
I’ve always rode dirt bikes or sport bikes so getting one of these bad boys soon, a great free way to have a lot of fun on weekends 👌
Including the wheels and Rekluse, you prolly spent 50% of the MSRP on farkles and fixes. Still much less cost and weight than a 690 or 890, but still, would be nice to see an Adventure R with proper 21/18 spoked wheels and flat pegs. Perhaps they are going to leave this bike as "entry level/world bike" and sell the 490s in Duke, ADV and R trims.
Expert, informed testing. I guess my take-away is - buy a different bike if you need to make all these mods to make your ride. I am guessing you're into +$4-5K and with the price of the bike, you're into T7 territory which has a lot of these things taken care of already (though not perfect I suspect). As you say, maybe wait for the "R" version of the 390 if it's the platform you love. Anyway, good info - thanks.
true... but the weight of the bike is very low... and that is a huge advantage!
Will wait for the 490 adv R if ever.
@@metalsadman hopefully 2022
@@metalsadman The work on 490 already started at Bajaj factory in India. Next year 2nd half expect some spy shots :D
A 490 "R" would be a bike to watch!!!
At 70 it is time to transition from dirt bikes. I had to check out this video to see if this bike would be good a choice to make the transition. After watching the answer is "yes" moreover, I don't have to figure out how to make it more dirt worthy. Thank you for spending the time on this bike.
Thanks for the kind words! Cold start issue has now been completely fixed 👍
The only good thing about this bike is the HP from this little engine, otherwise it is ugly as F, crap ground clearance, terrible headlight design, plenty of issues mainly electrical. Better buy a Honda/Kawasaki/Yamaha.
So much money, for what feels like such a cheap bike in person. Reminds me of the no name scooters you rent in third world countries
To me this just doesn't have the ground clearance to be an adventure bike. It's a gravel road friendly duke.
This is my very first motorcycle and I just got it about 6 months ago. Perfect beginner bike and this thing is a blast.
Mine too! Got mine about 3 months ago!
Can’t decide between this and the CRF300 for my 1st
@@outsidewithboone423 I was in the same boat
How it’s going bro ?
Any problems until now? How many kilometres have you done;
great video , you didnt seem to mention the muffler / exhaust . ? in your power section , i have a 2021 model , do agree with most of the other mods , i have replaced my muffler and pipe which makes the bike sound like a bike and not a sewing machine ,and doesnt seem to have made any difference in starting or running , so ill see how it goes and let you know , im keen on swapping the foot pegs , and mirrors too. cheers Steve/Australia .
Nice video, another option for pegs that I went with was the pivot pegs. Both on and off road they've been great. I've upgraded a lot of my bike already, 790 windscreen, bark busters, 22" risers, Adv Tribe radiator guard, toe guard, double take mirrors and larger kick stand base plate, and GPS mount. I did go with the upgraded KTM skid plate, however after watching Adv Matts video, I'll be saving up for a black dog. This video highlighted that fact even more. Once my stock rims pack it in, I will be going spoke. Upgraded to the k60 scout tire, so far I've been pretty happy with them, very tough tire good traction for what I'm doing off road, and other than humming like a mofo on the hwy, really not a lot of complaints. Might try the Midas E07 next time around. The K60's did change the handling on my bike as they are heavy and I find the bike likes to stand up, but after a little time with them, easy to get used to. The TKC 70's were a great street tire, just didn't cut it for me off road. I've only got about 5,500 km on my bike, about 1,200 of it has been off road and I am loving it. Love watching these videos, I love to see how others are just making this bike better.
I have a 2021 KTM 390 ADV on order, it should be here in a couple weeks! Thanks for all the suggestions! 👊🏽
If possible to replace the stock rims to spoke ones..
How it’s going bro ? Any changes or issues or updates you done ,?
What do you think a rider weight limit would be on something like the 390?
I recently bought a 2023 KTM 390 ADV. MOD LIST AND DYNO RESULTS HERE: BDCW skid plate, FuelX Pro+ (worth the price! zero issues! more power!) Dominator full exhaust (cat delete, resonator delete, moves the o2 sensor out of way for BDCW skid plate) Rottweiler air box lid, K&N Foam Air filter. SW mo-tech Crash bars. 2 inch handle bar extensions and longer clutch cable (came together). GIVI top case rack (30l) and GIVI side paneers and rack(22l each), Tusk Tank bag. RHINO water proof bags on crash bars (two 6l). DYNO RESULTS.. - 62 HP 54 TQ.. 388 wet weight. I weigh 220 lbs. with gear on. 6'1 height. My PB 0-60 is 4 sec flat (trying to get her in the 3s lol). Paid $6,000 for the bike brand new. put around $2000 into mods. I got into a big accident(not my fault).. only the plastics broke (cheap replacements). Bike is super tough, super durable, extremely safe, and over all well built. only issues I ran into was some of the wire routings from the dealership was not done correctly ( nothing major easy fixes ). Hope this help anyone looking to buy one, They are so much fun and the perfect bike for all stages of riders, fairly inexpensive compared to other bikes. Off-road on these bikes is INSANELY FUN!
Pass on the (way overpriced) black dog products and pass on the rekluse clutch. Otherwise good info.
I’m 230 and 6’ 1”. I’m about to get this and wreck it’s whole world. Lol.
Ride the way it was designed to be ridden, as an adventure bike and there are no mods necessary.
Groan. If you have to modify any motorcycle that much it’s either not the right motorcycle for you or you simply aren’t in their target demographic. It would be interesting if you could evaluate the motorcycle from the standpoint of their targeted customer, someone who’s just looking for a fun and light adventure bike. And someone who wants something reliable so they are not stranded alone in the middle of nowhere.
Here is the review of the stock bike: ua-cam.com/video/BruZ2RDQ6WY/v-deo.html
I love the review. As ADV Matt stated, I ride mine within it's limitations and it's a blast. I did change the rear tire to TK70 Rocks (outstanding tire for off and on road) also added a real skid plate. I Just took it on the UTAH BDR and it did fantastic but the old mining trails in Colorado is my primary stopping grounds and it will take me just about everywhere I want to go and on these trails you'll never see a large Adventure bike ever and you shouldn't. Single track over rocky ground and steep sections are no problem if you have the off road skills.
While I totally dig this bike. Hopefully the 490 will arrive and and save me some coin on modifying a CB500X
Kinda the same boat. I'm waiting to see the 490 to see if it saves me from having to mod out a 390 🤷♂️
But why when the power to weight of the 390 is better than the 500x, plus better suspension?
Needs a custom downpipe that goes under the clutch casing and under the RH footrest, there's 2" extra ground clearance there, the fork extenders are a must to, and Indian guy has them CNC milled out,posts W/wide.
The replacement for the Suzuki DR-Z400, DR650 and KLR650, jumping forth into the 2020's! Oh,the Powerparts 1 piece seat too, a must!
I have no idea how someone can say this has linear power delivery. The one point every review makes is it does not have have linear power delivery, it comes on strong at 5,000 to 6,000 and revs to about 9,000...first time here and found that an odd comment. Respectfully!!
$6600 on a bike, $2000 on wheels and tires, $500 on a new computer for a bike that cruises at 70mph on the highway. Hmm, or you could just spend $7690 on a Kawasaki Versys. Tough choice.
As always, the gold standard of review and mod commentary. Still using all the skills you and your wife taught me at Dirt Daze a few years ago and your 450L vids were helped me buy that bike…which I’ve now modded the crap out of……:-). Thanks for all you do!
Do you know the 2021 electrical power output in city driving vs. highway speeds with everything stock maxed out (e.g. high beams, display brightness etc)? It would be nice to know for planning to add heated and other power gear. How many watts to we have to work with after the bike draws power for stock systems?
Great reviews. Really the best. But what I take away from this review is that you're going to be another $7,500 - $10,000 into the bike after purchase just to bring it up to where it needs to be. And this is if you are handy and do most of the proposed work yourself. .
Thanks, we will discuss tonight on TTTT#108
No, you throw 10.000 into a bike to get it up to where it has no place to be. This is a lightweight adv touring bike, not a hardcore offroader. But it seems in the US people tend to take any bike into ridiculous environments and then complain they have to upgrade. I never understood that. Just buy an enduro bike. Ktm has enough other bikes that will do what you want, why choose the cheapest one and try to make a dakar racer out of it. Makes no sense.
Spot on !
That top speed you showed was in 4th gear. Is it the same in 5th or 6th gear?
spending so much money on a bike just to make suitable for off-road which he is not designed for? one should just get a more suitable bike. it looks like commercial to sell different parts.
are ktm's reliable enough to keep for 4-5 year without much issues?
It's not what you ride it's where you going??? Naaah m8 naaah. :D
In my experience. When you start trying to put in products that mess with the motor/transmission performance to make your bike into something that it's not, you start having issues.
Bro i want to go on light off road adventure not compete in the Dakar tour. JK most normie riders say the seat is too tall, the suspension is too hard and a pro offroad adventure is like the opposite, thanks im getting one asap
Spoked wheels are available from KTM powerparts catalogue. They require tubes though.
It is a really good bike, except that it is really crap.
So you just have to invest about $10.000 in it, so it would be really good.
Na, for the standard price the standard bike is sitll a pretty good deal price / value wise in comparison with all the specs / technic on it.
2023 version comes with spoke rims from factory
Great upgrades. I went with an AXP plate, I should. Have waited for the Black Dog one!
Yep. I just effectively destroyed my AXP on one BDR trip. Buying the Blackdog now, like I should have to begin with.
@@battlejitney2197 Hello Battle, honestly I think for 90% of what folks will do with the 390 Adventure , the AxP is a fine option, but if you plan to do a BDR or serious rocks, the Black Dog is the right part for the job. - Frank
I had a 990 ADV, 1190, got down to a G650GS Sertão and CRF250L, after watch this video I understand the corks of this bike and they can be fixed, now I'm considering buy one.
Tks for the video, no BS talk straight to what really need to be done!
Why did'nt you change the ugly scooter like exhaust and manifold ? Also no change to the suspension ? How many Hp and Torq did you gain ?
We changed what we complained about. Lots of HP and Torque in a percentage way.
It's a great little bike. I have over 5000 on mine with no problems. I put an air seat cover on for comfort then installed risers, but I really wish it was 2" higher at the front. There's some fork extenders being sold from the UK that will raise the front 1-2" but the jury is still out on them. Lots of front-end dip on this bike - normal for real dirt bikes but they have the length to make it tolerable, not so with the 390A, feels like a sport bike, hard on the forearms. Anyway, because of its weight it will go anywhere. MTC is a pain though.
Its too low from the ground
I know they are not really the same types of bikes but has anyone ever compared the KTM390 and the DRZ400?
Nice video, About KENDA tyres , How many km you can do with the Big rock K784 on KTM 390?
Can you guys drum up a video on the 2023 version Adv SW and probably look at the mods all over please? Its been a while.
Hi...1 question regarding abs and traction control is it possible to disable fuse without removing abs sensor
Good question for our weekly show, Tech Talk Taco Tuesday!
@@DirtBikeTest thank you will follow
How u have improved the low end torque
The ECU modification and air filter improvement help.
Have you tried going back to the stock ECU and adding the FuelX?
Think you need to give one to Taco Moto... and Then see what is able to be done.... for a good price...
I think after hearing all your mods o the KTM, I will look at the Triumph and Kawasaki adventure series . Thanks, Sorry Shana T B…my favorite motorcycle race rider.
Any idea where I can buy a fuel pump as a spare for 390 Adventure? Mine broke after just 500 km and the estimated arrival time is more than 2 months. Even if it is replaced under warranty I still want to have one, just in case, as the original one is so faulty. Cheers!
Forget the foot pegs don’t bother me the clutch shit it self in 3000 miles the wheels are good stranded all wheels bend
Can you expound a bit on replacing the fork seals? My brother and I have both had leaky fork seals after riding our 390's through the mud and dirt of a BDR. I assumed it was just due to typical dirt particles getting hung up in the seal, as I've had happen on other bikes. Did you guys find something more problematic with the stock seals?
Actual entry level adventure is 250, which I ride in India now as an expatriate working here, enough power and speed for here :)
How tall are you? People over 6 feet will be able to be comfortable riding long terms?
Excelente y honesta prueba de una de las mejores motos de su segmento. Tengo una KTM 390 Adventure que cambié por una BMW F800GS y voy más seguro y, ágil y ligero que con la bábara. Un saludo desde España.
I hope to add a 390 adv to my street and dirt bike stable. Now that the ‘23 version comes with spoked wheels and tubes, the wheels have to come off to fix a flat. That’s a lot harder than plugging a tubeless tire. I understand the advantages of spoked wheels but I’m curious how you adventure guys deal with this out in the middle of nowhere. I ride alone most of the time too. I Always carry a plug kit and Co2 with me on the street and have used Tubliss on the dirt bike, also repairable with tire plugs. Thanks in advance for any insights! 👍🏼
I wondered that too. A trail jack is the answer.
I'm surprised y'all didn't delete the cats and straight pipe out with a slip on haha
I'm definitely doing that on mine next season. The thing is so bottled up it's sad
@@tannerhawes6890 might need to adjust fuelling I reckon
@@yatube3313 yeah that's why it's not happening till next season, kinda a big task. But I think this thing could sound amazing despite being a small thumper
Just buy a 690 Enduro
What if you have a 27" inseam?
@@DirtBikeTest : learn 2 ride. Two words : Gaston Rahier.
Maravilloso tu video , Felicitaciones ...una pregunta el elevador de manillar donde lo puedo comprar ? y cuantos cm sube ?
Great video. This helped me settle on getting this bike! Thanks.
Hi, is this video shot in Pahrump, NV?
Brother how much money did you spend on this bike?
That’s a lot of issues for a new bike
Im pretty sure no one would dump 4k into a 6k bike it makes no sense in my opinion. Why not just buy a better adv bike or a dual sport at that point. The duke 390 adventure i think is designed to introduce people to adventure riding and thats it, sell it and upgrade.
We'll debate your opinions on tonight's Tech Talk Taco Tuesday show #102 if you care to join... FYI we have a lot of ammo to throw in your direction...
@5:14 you can see a lump on the front tyre.
instead of messing around with wires and ECU just chuck a 1 tooth down sprocket on it and it gives you the same result for 20 bucks
Not even close, but that is a very cost effective way of changing the acceleration.
Jimmy, what do you think of the 390 Adventure versus the Svartpilen 401? Which is a better all around and light off road motorcycle for a beginner?
I have not ridden the Svartpilen so I can't compare but the 390 is an excellent platform for novice/beginner.
We'll just throw a stupid amount of money into a dollar friendly bike and ruin the point of the thing.
Dears from DBT, your first part of this video made me consider this 390ADV, I ordered one and might get it in two weeks. Nevertheless, KTM reliability is a matter of discussion all over the internet. What has been your experience regarding reliability of this model? any recommendation? ….. I can still change for a Japanese brand ; ) (I’d not go for BMW, my mechanic, a former BMW mechanic recommended me to stay away from recent 3xx/8xx BMW models).
Other than some quirks with the display, the bike has been rock solid. No issues. Even being built "offshore" compared to other KTM models, durability is the same. The finish of some parts may not look the same but in many cases, the parts are overbuilt if anything.
Don't worry about reliability. That is a matter of any brand/type motorcycle on the internet. Thats just internet. Seriously, type in any brand with the word "problem" and you would think they all suck. Go ahead, type in let's say " honda pan european problems". That's one of the best bikes on the planet (they run for hundreds of thousends of miles) and still people complain complain complain.
Those wheels u guy!!! I love.
I have a 21 390 and i simply Cannot imagine it would do well offroad. You have to ring the hell out of it for the power. Granted im comparing it to my crf450L but still.
For what it is it's suprising. Give it a chance.
It has a lot of torque but you have to trust it. Yes, the power is very progressive but don't let a light flywheel feel confuse you. If the throttle is on, even a little, I'd bet you can't stall the bike under normal conditions.
It is made in India by Bajaj.
In last years bikes there were a lot of reports out of India of low rpm stalling when the clutch was pulled in for a downshift. Has anyone heard whether this has been addressed prior to the US launch?
Not an issue on our bike, but we did find the quickshift could cause a miss if your toe touches the shifter even when you are not shifting.
Indian bikes are not the same as the rest of the world bikes. Tuning is different, sometimes they use different components etc. they cost a whole lot less overthere. Same happened with the enfield himalayan, lots of complaints in India, rock solid bike in the rest of the world.
Your original review of the 390 ADV was one of the best out there; thanks for the follow up. As others have pointed out, KTM now sells a spoke wheels set. I'm waiting to bend my alloys before I go for those. [UPDATE: for some reason KTM discontinued their Power Part spoke wheels set.] The Doubletake Mirrors are great. Also added a stronger bash plate and bar risers. The one thing I found after going to flat pegs on my 390 ADV was that getting the brake pedal adjusted ideally was tough for the standing position, so I went with a two level step plate (AltRider and SW-Motech make them). Loving the bike as a dirt newbie; very confidence inspiring. My last mod was I went to a 14T front sprocket but haven't checked it out in the dirt yet.
Thanks for the update, funny on the brake pedal that we haven't complained about that. Seems like we did everything else.
What is the total weight increase with all the mods n parts ? with ecu mapped increased power n torque... .. how does the new weight to power ratio compare with the original stock bike ?
I'm got my best people on it. They will report back to us and we'll talk about it on our weekly show #102 (If I'm lucky)
@@DirtBikeTest kewl...look forward 🤘🙏
These guys are gawds!
Did you use the decat coober kit or just the ecu?
Muffler is still stock.
Bottom line… it was designed/engineered/manufactured/marketed as a 3rd World TOY…. No matter how much money you throw at it to make it “off road” worthy will easily hit the $10k (includes original OTD cost) .. throw in a Rekluse and aftermarket wheels you’ll hit $15k…and you’re still left with a TOY… only a fool would spend that type of money when there are so many adult options available….and the build quality is horrible.. KTM should be ashamed… save your money and buy a T7 as a starting point….
Topsspeed?
Stock they start and stall numerous times even in warm temps.
Yourse but not all. Let it check at the dealer.
Make sure you use premium fuel. This is a high compression engine.
The footpeg thing seems like a major oversight on KTM's part.
Cool bike but god damn is it ugly!
I've the same bike and same mirrors. Love the bike but if we're honest let's just say the doubletake mirrors do vibrate more than the stock ones. And I've done my due diligence in tightening them correctly.
Great two part review. Need a DBT on the 790/890.
Great video and just what I was looking for. Can tell you really know your stuff. Waiting on delivery of mine and will be ordering some of these items for sure. I'm an experienced rider but only 5'6" and 130 lbs so I'm hoping this will work well for me. Thanks for all the work, stuff like this really helps the community.
How is it? Same boat experienced but 5’5”