I used this coffee grinder at the 2023 Taiwan Coffee Expo. It is more difficult to grip compared to the previous generation（X or X lite）, and the grinding efficiency is lower. It would be beneficial if a non-slip rubber ring could be included as an accessory for this grinder.
We didn’t compare it with the X or Lite, but it is faster than average hand grinders, requiring about 50 rotations for a 15g pour-over size. However, you are right that grinding can be challenging, 😅 especially with light-roasted coffee, as it's not very smooth.
@@IMNOTABARISTA Yes, it's a bit challenging with light-roast beans. There are many details that need improvement, but it's indeed a fascinating product.
Thank you for sharing your experience with it. It can’t hurt to mention that I just read a review, that this S3 is more convenient for people with larger hands. The slim model was recommended to fit smaller hands better. They mentioned that the recommended settings were quite accurate. Extremely fine 0.01 per click. In many videos I see they compare different handgrinders with the same amount of clicks. Or by how much time they take to grind 15 grams. The problem is, that they don’t have a Particle Size Measuring Device. Maschine’s Performance must be measured how effortlessly and *consistently* they achieve a certain amount of fineness. Otherwise brewing recipes will not be very consistent, and the taste will be bad. I will only be persuaded if the S3 does it’s supposed job well: grind *fine* 🙏
We don’t have the K6, so we can’t make a comparison. However, we really enjoy the taste profile this grinder produces and the way it feels in hand. The only minor issue is that grinding light roasted coffee requires a bit more effort, but it’s manageable! 😊
How is it, any updated videos? Because I ordered one and hoping it doesn't suck :D I was actually impressed with the basic versions of the Timemore C2 and C3 so I got this one after hearing how satisfying the foldy handle is :P
@@yosiaandre2432 If you're wanting to grind for espresso, French reviewer CoffeeGeek didn't think the S3 could grind fine enough as his Lelit espresso maker would only register about 4-6 bars when brewing. He later preferred the Kingrinder K4 (plus more expensive 1Zpresso options) which were designed for espresso grinds. Your results may vary. Hopefully you can find alternate reviews for the S3 making espresso. BTW, he ground 16g of coffee beans in about 45 seconds at setting '0'.
@@borbetomagus I wouldn't recommend a hand grinder for espresso especially if your doing more than one shot a day or using light dense coffees it's too much work. The timemore c2 says it can do espresso but it takes forever to grind it doesnt really work. C3 can do espresso but I only tried one shot and it was pretty bland. Like not bad but no flavour clarity at all. I had the 1zpresso k plus before and it does espresso Pretty well but steps were a bit too large.
Is there any information on the burr size? From looking at it and the fact that it can grind espresso potentially uniformed it may be a 48mm size but I'm not certain. I can't find the burr size on the official website either.
Maybe I can add interesting other facts besides SUS420 serrated stainless steel conical burrs? Model X lite had SUS440. Both SUS440 and SUS420 are iron-chromium alloys. But SUS420 with slighly less chromium less than half carbon is typically used for cutlery. SUS440 would have more tensile strength like for slim cutting edges like scalpels. From my experience with cutlery the SUS420 should be longer lasting and therefore beneficial for longer lifetime. But it also depends on how well they were heat treated. But let’s get vack to coffee ☺️ It’s the brandnew S2C890 burr set // 15 mu per click compared X/X lite // 40 mu and C3 // 80 mu per click Tolerance reduced from 7 mu to 5 mu for higher grind consistency. Only 2 mu right? Is that much? Yes! That is an insane improvement of 20%, by increasing dimensional stability to 200% 🥹
@@IMNOTABARISTA sure looks neat. i have the chestnut x model and it's served me really well, i was tempted by niche zero however and decided not to fight this temptation and i'm loving it! keeping my timemore though just in case. had i not bought the niche, i would probably have bought s3, even just for the kicks. the weight, speed and price are big factors - do you think the s3 is also a contender for chestnut x when it comes to grinding itself? i'm a pure espresso drinker so when looking for a grinder i'm all about the fine, consistent grains and my chestnut x has done a wonderful job, i wonder if s3 would have served me just as well
Timemore mentions that consistency has improved by 20% from 7 to 5 mu. But each click is now 15 mu compared to 40 mu from the X The material of the burr has changed from SUS440 to SUS420 but it’s difficult to reach conclusions to hardness because the procedure of heat treatment is unknown.
I purchased the S3 and I don't like it. It only has 10 clicks for espresso. I used it with 3 types of coffee beans and on the finest grind size it is still not fine enough. Coffee (30grams) runs in 12-14 seconds. Way too fast. Next to this, the grip of the grinder is awful. And the exterior is hard to clean. Be aware: not suitable for good espresso!!
I really enjoy the C2 and C3 for pour overs, and I have more expensive larger flat burr grinders too! I ordered the S3 to see if it's really that much better. The burr design looks similar to the C3 I think, but larger.
@@pewdiepiechannel5974 I've only tried the C2 And C3 basic versions so far. Both are very nice for the price. I've hear some people may have issues in the long term with those as the burr supports are actually plastic. I didn't realize that with the black version since it's dark. Commendante C40 may also have plastic supports? Or am I remembering that wrong. But has plastic somewhere for some reason.
@@pewdiepiechannel5974 x was the top end one. Never actually looked into it much but I think s3 is supposed to be even better.All metal build (plastic burr supports are on the basic c2 and c3 versions), and they all have different burrs although I think s3 and c3 are similar burr styles.
I would be interested in a comparison to the kingrinder k_6 as many people seem to like that one too!
I used this coffee grinder at the 2023 Taiwan Coffee Expo. It is more difficult to grip compared to the previous generation（X or X lite）, and the grinding efficiency is lower. It would be beneficial if a non-slip rubber ring could be included as an accessory for this grinder.
We didn’t compare it with the X or Lite, but it is faster than average hand grinders, requiring about 50 rotations for a 15g pour-over size. However, you are right that grinding can be challenging, 😅 especially with light-roasted coffee, as it's not very smooth.
@@IMNOTABARISTA Yes, it's a bit challenging with light-roast beans. There are many details that need improvement, but it's indeed a fascinating product.
@@chrislee4550how the cup result?
This is improment result from x lite?
Thank you for sharing your experience with it. It can’t hurt to mention that I just read a review, that this S3 is more convenient for people with larger hands. The slim model was recommended to fit smaller hands better. They mentioned that the recommended settings were quite accurate. Extremely fine 0.01 per click.
In many videos I see they compare different handgrinders with the same amount of clicks. Or by how much time they take to grind 15 grams. The problem is, that they don’t have a Particle Size Measuring Device. Maschine’s Performance must be measured how effortlessly and *consistently* they achieve a certain amount of fineness. Otherwise brewing recipes will not be very consistent, and the taste will be bad. I will only be persuaded if the S3 does it’s supposed job well: grind *fine* 🙏
Hello. What is this grinder for moka and aeropress like? By the way, it is better than the K6 if we do not take into account expresso?
We don’t have the K6, so we can’t make a comparison. However, we really enjoy the taste profile this grinder produces and the way it feels in hand. The only minor issue is that grinding light roasted coffee requires a bit more effort, but it’s manageable! 😊
Very cool, looks promising. Would love to see their newest flagship. Timemore has the best design in the game.
For $199 ? This is a go-to grinder for many
@@IMNOTABARISTA It's only about USD130 here in SE Asia!
@@zammie01 its 88usd in indonesia. but im still hesistate to buy this or c3s
How is it, any updated videos? Because I ordered one and hoping it doesn't suck :D I was actually impressed with the basic versions of the Timemore C2 and C3 so I got this one after hearing how satisfying the foldy handle is :P
how is the grinder now ? is it worth it ?
@@yosiaandre2432 still haven't recieved mine. Hopefully soon!
@@BensCoffeeRants pls kindly review it if you can. bcs i wonder either i need to buy this s3 or just c3s will be enough for me 😁
@@yosiaandre2432 If you're wanting to grind for espresso, French reviewer CoffeeGeek didn't think the S3 could grind fine enough as his Lelit espresso maker would only register about 4-6 bars when brewing. He later preferred the Kingrinder K4 (plus more expensive 1Zpresso options) which were designed for espresso grinds. Your results may vary. Hopefully you can find alternate reviews for the S3 making espresso. BTW, he ground 16g of coffee beans in about 45 seconds at setting '0'.
@@borbetomagus I wouldn't recommend a hand grinder for espresso especially if your doing more than one shot a day or using light dense coffees it's too much work. The timemore c2 says it can do espresso but it takes forever to grind it doesnt really work. C3 can do espresso but I only tried one shot and it was pretty bland. Like not bad but no flavour clarity at all. I had the 1zpresso k plus before and it does espresso Pretty well but steps were a bit too large.
Google does not provide any purchase link options yet, when will it become available?
Looks good especially if at a competitive price.
It should be available now on their website, at least their Instagram has more info
Can someone do a review or comparison between other timore grinders and other competitors
s3 or cs3 pro? in case price to value which one is more worth it?
Don’t have cs3 pro, so can’t compare :(
Is there any information on the burr size? From looking at it and the fact that it can grind espresso potentially uniformed it may be a 48mm size but I'm not certain. I can't find the burr size on the official website either.
42mm
Maybe I can add interesting other facts besides SUS420 serrated stainless steel conical burrs?
Model X lite had SUS440. Both SUS440 and SUS420 are iron-chromium alloys. But SUS420 with slighly less chromium less than half carbon is typically used for cutlery. SUS440 would have more tensile strength like for slim cutting edges like scalpels. From my experience with cutlery the SUS420 should be longer lasting and therefore beneficial for longer lifetime. But it also depends on how well they were heat treated. But let’s get vack to coffee ☺️
It’s the brandnew S2C890 burr set // 15 mu per click
compared X/X lite // 40 mu and C3 // 80 mu per click
Tolerance reduced from 7 mu to 5 mu for higher grind consistency. Only 2 mu right? Is that much?
Yes! That is an insane improvement of 20%, by increasing dimensional stability to 200% 🥹
Thanks fot the unboxing. Wiuld you tell the burr size please ? 😊
Let me check
42mm
When/where is this available? It's not even on timemore's website!
Should be available, check their Ins
@@IMNOTABARISTAlooks like it’s coming soon to the US. it says Sold Out on their website, but likely soon.
how does it compare to timemore chestnut x?
We had the X long time ago, but not anymore. This grinds faster, lighter, easier to use and adjust, and cheaper 😅
@@IMNOTABARISTA sure looks neat. i have the chestnut x model and it's served me really well, i was tempted by niche zero however and decided not to fight this temptation and i'm loving it! keeping my timemore though just in case. had i not bought the niche, i would probably have bought s3, even just for the kicks. the weight, speed and price are big factors - do you think the s3 is also a contender for chestnut x when it comes to grinding itself? i'm a pure espresso drinker so when looking for a grinder i'm all about the fine, consistent grains and my chestnut x has done a wonderful job, i wonder if s3 would have served me just as well
Timemore mentions that consistency has improved by 20% from 7 to 5 mu.
But each click is now 15 mu compared to 40 mu from the X
The material of the burr has changed from SUS440 to SUS420 but it’s difficult to reach conclusions to hardness because the procedure of heat treatment is unknown.
Do it need to re-calibrate after open the burr?
No need.
What is different in the burr? Bigger? Stronger?
Faster definitely, slightly harder to grind
@@IMNOTABARISTAhow does it taste vs comandante
You should review the J ULTRA
Timemore S3 vs Kingrinder K6?
We don’t have K6 😅
Its a shame they didnt improve the threads on the catch cup. Thats my least favorite part of the xlite.
I purchased the S3 and I don't like it. It only has 10 clicks for espresso. I used it with 3 types of coffee beans and on the finest grind size it is still not fine enough. Coffee (30grams) runs in 12-14 seconds. Way too fast.
Next to this, the grip of the grinder is awful. And the exterior is hard to clean.
Be aware: not suitable for good espresso!!
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I doubt it will cost under 100usd, so i will keep my c3 of 25usd
I really enjoy the C2 and C3 for pour overs, and I have more expensive larger flat burr grinders too! I ordered the S3 to see if it's really that much better. The burr design looks similar to the C3 I think, but larger.
@BensCoffeeRants how does it differ from the others like c3 and x? Is it better?
@@pewdiepiechannel5974 it’s waaaaay faster and the adjustment are outside so changing it takes nothing
@@pewdiepiechannel5974 I've only tried the C2 And C3 basic versions so far. Both are very nice for the price. I've hear some people may have issues in the long term with those as the burr supports are actually plastic. I didn't realize that with the black version since it's dark. Commendante C40 may also have plastic supports? Or am I remembering that wrong. But has plastic somewhere for some reason.
@@pewdiepiechannel5974 x was the top end one. Never actually looked into it much but I think s3 is supposed to be even better.All metal build (plastic burr supports are on the basic c2 and c3 versions), and they all have different burrs although I think s3 and c3 are similar burr styles.
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