Animals as Leaders | The Woven Web - "Dat Riff" Cover + LESSON!!
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- Опубліковано 25 сер 2024
- Here's a cover of the slapping section in The Woven Web, otherwise known as "dat riff", along with a lesson on how to play it!
Contrary to popular belief, it's played with 7-strings, meaning you don't need an 8-string.
This was my first ever guitar lesson, so I hope you enjoy it.
Standard tuning, from low to high: BEADGBE
Played with my Black Water Guitars 7-string and Bare Knuckle Pickup Cold Sweats
hey man just wanted to let u know that this video got me into music school - i auditioned for berklee with this song and ur video was part of how i learned it, so than you!!!!
Awesome man, glad it helped! Can't wait to learn a song from you one day!!
Watched you play it man it was great!
No way Donny in da comment section
hey donny whats up
oh my gosh thats crazy
you don't need an 8 string, just a backwards bending thumb
@@badnoodlez Are you serious or just joking man?
Hahaha "Dat Riff" is probably the perfect way to describe it lol
was having hard time learning this, it takes a long time to get to grips with the motion, but don't get discouraged, it takes time for it to sink into the muscle memory. practice the motion on and off and in about 3 days it will start coming naturally. I was having trouble then i had a dream last night that i was playing it, woke up this morning and my finders were agreeing with me.
That's awesome man, and actually very interesting. Gotta dream about guitar more often !
SaintScapin funny enough, I had a dream last night that I purchased an ibanez tam 10, it played like butter, and it was as if the guitar had no action!
haha go buy it ! I bet it's a great guitar !
Thank you for the encouragement!
I remember hearing this riff and my jaw just dropping, kind of when I picked up the guitar, I’ve been playin around 2 years practicing like 4 hrs a day and now I kinda feel like a bamf playin this riff, great UA-cam lesson!
YOU ARE CHEATING. YOU HAVE THE ABASI THUMB! :D
Nah just kidding. Awesome playing.
that fucking thumb
I will pick up guitar just because I have the abasi thumb
to peeps who struggle: It really helps if you're already comfortable with thumping.(which can be done with a straight thumb, at least i can)
Go learn the intro to An Infinite Regression first if this is to tricky, just to get comfortable with all the hammer on, thumping and picking.
its more intense but simpler; every note just as long and same picking for every chord.
Even the first 2 chords alone is a good exercise.
And as always: use metronome, have patience, play a comfortable speed.
As stated there are some differences between this and Tosins vid.
Only minor things tho. Its close enough.
What i did was learn this first as is, not thinking about how Tosin does at all and then, when I memorized all the patterns, play his version with 0.5x speed 100000000 times from 3:20 mark.
then switched to .75x and 1x once i nailed it.
I've compared this lesson video to the live videos of Tosin playing it and I've noticed a few differences:
- It looks like Tosin will double downstroke with his thumb for the bend not and the release; not upstroke. It looks like he goes down on the bend and comes all the way back up during the bend, not hit the release note with an up-thump.
- During the 4 16th notes following the three notes after the bend are all done with the thumb. He does down slap - up thump - down slap - up thump; not down - up - index - down.
- He does start the triplets with a downstroke, but he goes into the triplet following down - up - down - up. It feels awkward going into the triplet following an index stroke because of how the rhythm is obscured by hitting the release note with an upstroke.
- He starts the second measure with 2 downstrokes of the thumb; not index - thumb (bend note). It took me awhile to watch what he was doing, but he begins every measure with a downstroke of the thumb.
- Since he is muting all the strings except for all the accented notes, such as the open A notes, he doesn't JUST play the muted notes on the low B string. When he plays open A - triplet - open A - triplet, it's all done on the muted A string. Same with the C# - triplet. It actually changes the timbre and sounds much different. It's also easier and there isn't the added difficulty of having to string skip between the two strings, since they're muted notes anyway.
- When he does the Open A - triplet, He hits the A with his ring finger and does the triplet: down - up - Index. It allows for the wrist to easily go up for the open note and down for the triplet.
If none of this makes sense or I seem completely wrong, oh well :/
Trying to learn this song as well
+Zack Pollard It just seems a lot easier and economic that way. The only part that seems a bit more challenging is the double down thumb of the second measure.
+Zack Pollard It is kind of awkward an uncomfortable to have your fingers close to your palm, but that's how they get to use all of their fingers for thumping. It's just another thing you have to practice. You have to practice lining all of your fingers up within the space of the strings so they're all ready to pluck when you rotate your wrist back up for the upstrokes. Such is described during the Victor Wooten bass technique vids, as well as the video of Tosin teaching at the clinic in Rockville, MD in 2012
Okay, I'm done now. My mind is empty.
+Zack Pollard Makes complete sense! I never said that my way is a 1:1 way of how to do it, I do state that do whatever is most comfortable to you! There's no wrong or right way to play the guitar, just whichever way gets you the result you want is the "right" way for you, everyone's hands and fingers are different so it's only natural :)
Zack Pollard he pkaus it weird i saw them live yesterday actully love animals and the closeing song was woven web and i was right in front and he is insane xD love AAL
Yeah he's not playing it entirely correct in this video.
Currently learning this song and this riff is giving me so many problems 🤣🤣 looks like I’ll have this vid on repeat
Love the crystal clear audio!
Been practicing with this a shit ton and finally gotten around to actually write a comment.
Thanks a lot mate :D
Never could get my head around this til' i found this vid. Easier than i expected.
I thought I was a decent guitarist then I stumbled upon this band. And Tosin's compositions make me feel like I have no clue what a time signature is. God I need to improve, and this is my inspiration!
Javier has so much to do in this too
man, thank u so much! at first this riff seemed tough as hell but the way you taught me to do it helped me a lot and u made me understand this complicated rhytm
Remco Skippers btw that is one damn beautiful looking guitar
This is some quality production.
holy shit you nailed it nigga
Best tutorial ever for the technique
Thanks! This video is very useful!
You plucked up big time!
His thumb even goes all the way back just like Tosin's
Fuck this I give up. Back to mindless sweep picking for me.. :/
Dat feel.
higler420 start with some simple slap basics stuff :) this is pretty advanced and hard even for bass players :)
Fantastic dude, thanks so much! I've been trying to get my head around this one for a while!
Really high quality video man. Great job
Good job! Nice cover, and thanks for the lesson!
Helping me out big time! Thanks Brian.
Killer Technique, btw
Awesome lesson, well done... you have that riff down man! Im glad I found this vid to because the tab I originally had was a bit off. Thanks for sharing!
Awesome lesson. Thank you for sharing this. I'm finally learning to play this thanks to you! Just one small correction: on the last note on the A-string, he plays the string open and does a super fast hammer-on to the 2nd fret.
Brilliant video man, great tuition!
that guitar is the dopeness
This was really good! Great video
Awesome video lesson!
actually i think the tuning is BDADGBE
That's literally only on CAFO
Chukmag i don't think so. i tried with standard tuning and with the low D, and the second one sound a lot better
Nope they've used it on other songs too like On Impulse
The E is tuned down to D. Just watch Tosin's playthrough. You can see him tapping octaves in the opening, and both fingers are on the same fret. If it were standard tuning, his fingers would be two frets apart. The people who think it's not D have never bothered playing any part besides the thump riff.
Chukmag it is
You are a Hero
Great video.. awesome technique
really really good. Having had a good few days at it I would make one change... I think the final none muted note on 2nd fret on the A should be replaced with a hammer on from 0 to 3. Saw it in this video:
Tosin Abasi plays The Woven Web at Cosmo Music
Thank You so much
THANKS A LOT! :) I'm gonna try this on my bass :)
thank you for this son
great cover and tutorial man!
So bad ass to see other asians into this music
Very good !!!
Instant like just for the name.
Great video! Definetely a THUMPS UP ;)
That guitar is badass.
Perfect bro !
YOU"RE A GOD
Gracias men!!! En hora buena!!
Hey I'm not sure if you've seen videos of Tosin playing this, but hitting the A string with your thumb just seems to be making a difficult riff even harder on yourself. Not even he does that. But maybe you already know that. Either way thanks for the tutorial, awesome video :D
Great job man!!
Damn, I was convinced it was done on an 8 so I only learned the intro and didn't even bother with the thumping bit.
Thanks man
dude you made my day
once you can do the up-down-index triplets this riff gets a lot easier, the only hard bit after that seems to be incorporating the middle finger
i don't even fucking play the guitar but damn this shit is ridiculous
Tosin uses the annular to do a triple pluck
Good job bro!
No matter how much i practice this it's impossible for me to get it.
it's all muscle memory! practice sloooooow
Brian Nguyen
How long does it take to learn? I've been practicing for a month:(
Hola Joseph start with something easier :D
I got all of this song learned except for the thump! WHICH IS THE BEST PART! I feel like i'm never going to learn :(
Hola Joseph First you'll need a bendy thumb
cant play guitar but this seems usefull :D
Thank YOU
liked before even watching the video lol
Can you teach me how to break my thumb and make it heal back in a hyperextended "hitchiker's thumb"?
As a drummer I find the rhythmic parts with the right easy as fuck after some practice. But that's about all I can do lol
i subbed!!!
I started with this yesterday and I noticed you have to find a certain wrist placement. I barely move my pointing and middle finger and make a turning motion with my hand. When my thumb travels back I automatically hit my pointing finger on the string. I just have to move my middle finger slighty when I have to use it. I am at the beginning but this works for me.
can i do the index and middle plucks on the other strings
I can only dream of learning this one day holy fuck
Rabin Miguel it's easier than you think just try
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What camera/lens are you using?
Awesome playing/lesson!
This is so hard.
You're my idol 😍
When you think you're getting good but someone puts you in your place again.
Also I know this was posted forever ago but why would you not hit the A string with your index finger rather than having to reach your thumb down? Idk if you still check comments for this but it struck my curiosity
I thinks it's BDADGBE bc the rest of the song is played in that tuning. I have the same tab and it was super confusing playing tha thump on the wrong string. This video rocks dude #tosinthumb
Has anyone else had an issue with the thumping where your thumb strikes the string one the upstroke and makes it a like half-assed tapped harmonic and if so, how did you get past it? I mean it's not as much of an issue I this since it's mostly dead notes, but it sounds awful when I play an infinite regression.
+Riley Tucker Also after watching Tosin play this, I believe that when he does the opens on the A string that he actually does XX with the thumb, then goes to the E string and does a dead note with his index finger then does the open A with his middle finger. I actually found that easier to do than to skip to the A string with my thumb, but it's just preference.
how do you dial in this tone on axe fx 3?
Great video! Is that playable on a 6 string guitar? Because right now I don't have a 7 string
The technique is applicable to a 6 string but to play the song requires 7 strings.
does anyone else’s thumb get stuck/catch on the string when trying to Thump upwards??
where did you get your tabs? or did you transcribe them yourself?
How can I stop my index and middle finger nails for scraping the strings? (My nails are cut btw)
Where do I even start to try and learn how to play this? Any help someone?
one question how does the nail lenght changes this technick and sound? Couse i have a realitve long nails and would like to keep them for flamenco and classical guitar song.
No, in fact Tosin uses flamenco length nails to play this part, to get kindof a percussive attack
thanks a lot man, I have a hard time with the thumping technique, especially going up, any advice to improve on it would be welcome. For the record I watched Ben Eller’s lesson about it but when I do it it lacks a bit of that spanky tone, but maybe it’s also because I can’t split my bridge pickup (I think Tosin plays this with the bridge pickup coil-tapped). I’m thinking you need a hitch-hiker thumb to play that too :)
When you hit the string it helps to land on the string Immediately below it. As for the upstroke leave the string in the same way you entered it.
Dude I know how to thump and stuff but I can’t even play the first half without forgetting the fingering.
For some reason I have a very difficult time with the Thumping of the the thumb. I can't tell If I'm doing it wrong but seems as if I really have to put a lot of effert in the down stroke. Any tips
Check out this guy's lesson on the thumping technique, he explains it better than I could. I actually referred to his video when I was first learning it too!
Tosin Abasi Animals as Leaders slap / thump thumb technique lesson! 2013
Wow this is so easy.........wow.......try playing Death or Vader!!!!
whats is the drop ??
My dead notes sound like shit no matter how hard I thumb. Can you show your amp settings?
If I wanted to play bass, I would
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Congrats Buddie...can u say about the gauges? Thank U
Hi, do you know if black water guitars still makes instruments?
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Check out my cover of The Woven Web on my channel! I asked Tosin to play this riff for me slowly at a clinic and learned it that way. Nice job Brian. The thump is done on the 7th string!
Now the hard part... Dat tone.
Bro did you have to use coil tap to get that tone? because i have humbuckers w/o coil tap
+Allan Joseph No coil tap, the Bare Knuckle Cold Sweats are pretty low output, so this was just between the neck and middle position
+Brian Nguyen the tone is from a high-gain amp with low gain settings, or a pushed clean tone? I've never been able to discern the tones AAL uses in their slap thingies.
Anyways, thanks a lot for the lesson!
+Emilio Sfeir a pushed clean tone
Would help to compress your tone a little bit, but only do that after you can play it, otherwise you would start to hide behind compression.
Question:
When you hit that first hard downstroke with your thumb, how do you keep from hitting adjacent strings and when you come back up for the upstroke, how do you make it as pronounced as the downstroke?
I seem to be able get the downstroke to sound fine, but the main trouble I have is hitting that upstroke with my thumb and getting it to sound out without hitting an adjacent string. It's sort of muted when I hit it because i'm afraid of hitting the wrong string with it. This is such a nuanced technique... Any further insights will help. Thanks!
+snicklefritzfry thumb control! if you're afraid of hitting the wrong string with your thumb, it's all about practice and accuracy. Once you really get the muscle memory down you shouldn't have an issue with hitting wrong notes
+snicklefritzfry I have the exact same problem and despite practicing for hours upon hours, I just can't get it right. I've tried using my wrist to make the movement as well as my fingers. I've tried holding my hand in various positions. Nothing works for me. I am not meant to thump. :(
Samtallica, Did you manage to get it to work?
tytyty
I think it's easier for people with "hitchhiker's thumbs".
Man for the sake of us all USE A METRONOME for such hard riff work...
Can you do backfiefengeist?
Dude, thank you!
I see no reason this couldn't be done on even a 6-string (everything on the 7th is muted, right?).
The rhythm is really what’s important but there are notes on the 7th string (the c# to d bend) and it does change the sound to use the other strings rather than the low b
Funny how the part with the least amount of notes is the hardest part in the song
What amp and pick up setting is this my dude?