OSRS Leagues IV - Guide on area picking (V1 - OUTDATED - READ DESCRIPTION)
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
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UPDATE: Amethyst dart tips can be fletched in sets of 8 and do not require completion of The Tourist Trap. Thanks to @SkilleyeFE. This punches a hole in my current presentation about the ranged route and I will fix this in a later video.
With this information you can pick Tirannwn without picking Desert. The Desert now only gives Masori for ranged. The best route for ranged is likely to be Tirannwn + Asgarnia + Free Pick. Kourend for Rigour (and Tbow) or Desert for Fortified Masori.
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UPDATE 2:
My video, and some resources, say DHL requires only Asgarnia. It will probably require Kandarin as well for access to Barbarian Training, which is required to wield the Lance.
Thanks to @swiftcrow for pointing out that Virtus + Magus + Saturated heart is more DPS than Ancestral + Augury. Kandarin + Desert + Fremmy is not only valid, it's probably the best route. Going Kourend is not bad by any stretch of the imagination but you'd pick it for Slayer tasks or other content instead.
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UPDATE 3:
People have mentioned Vorkath drops Ddart tips and you don't need the Desert to craft Ddarts. They are 100% correct but I'd like to make a sidenote here: With a 1tick weapon, even with 98% saved darts (relic + assembler) you still blow through them in minutes. My personal conclusion is not to go Blowpipe without Desert (Rune) or Asgarnia (Amethyst). As this was a point of discussion in Leagues II it had not cross my mind to put this in the video but I should have.
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There is a bunch of information about Leagues IV that we don't know. But what we do know is the areas and the uniques within these areas. Because it is safe to assume that Jagex will probably give us the range/melee/magic relics as an option, we can theorycraft some routes with this information.
00:00 Introduction
01:58 About CA's
03:34 Combat Relics
09:25 Melee Route
13:34 The Desert
14:20 Ranged Route
21:34 Magic Route
26:16 Morytania
28:09 About DT2 Bosses & Ancient Rings
30:00 Deciding on Areas
34:08 My Path
34:54 Closing Statements
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Hello everyone. I made a 2nd video where I correct the mistakes I made in this one: ua-cam.com/video/XnfSSYBEzWE/v-deo.html
The feedback and support has been overwhelming! I've been at the office the entire week and my phone was red hot from all the UA-cam notifications! Thank you for that.
Great video, a lot more nuanced and appropriately sceptical about certain areas and tasks than many other content creators
Magnificent video, the leagues hype is beginning. I'm hoping for a 4th dragon cup this year!
I've been doing some DPS calcs and it looks like Heavy Ballista and Blowpipe are not only the best ranged weapons, but possibly the best weapons in the game. On a high defense target the Heavy Ballista might be better but on low defense targets the blowpipe easily wins. As a side note, you get the most benefit from the 100% accuracy when your pre-boost accuracy is around 35%. At extremely high and extremely low accuracy, the boost does relatively little. The accuracy boost ends up making ranged a lot better than melee in many end game scenarios.
One noteworthy thing is the half attack speed _rounded up_ from the third relic. This means that weapons like the Ballista and Blowpipe are both double DPS while Fang, Scythe, all Shortbows, TBow, all autocasted combat spells, and any other 3 or 5 tic weapons get a significantly smaller boost.
Absolutely correct. This is also why I am not overstating Bowfa. It won't be a bad weapon whatsoever but the reason to get it in the main game is accuracy. Because it's in the same area I think a blowpipe will outclass everything.
I haven't considered the Heavy Ballista potentially being one of the best weapons in the game. Only a viable one. Thanks for your comment.
@@Velikan314 Yeah, I don't know if it's worth it to take Kandarin just for the Heavy Ballista. Your total DPS depends on the target, it depends on your gear, and definitely depends on the movement requirements of the encounter and the maximum distance you want to stand away from your target. So many of these things aren't reflected on a spreadsheet. Even in the best case scenario, Ballista is at parity with the Blowpipe.
Either region is a good choice for an S tier weapon. Tirannwn gives the crystal bow, which is a very good early game bow and Kandarin gives Zenytes. 🤷
great vid, thanks
Great vid!! Thinking of going mage with KZD which I feel will be the "meta" this league. Of course that all depends on relic changes and tier 7, but going in with a goal and a combat style preference helps keep things organized.
Yooo subd! Thank u
Nice PowerPoint broskimon. Can you come to my school and deliver it in person?
One thing you missed for magic/kandarin is that path of glouphrie unlocks the warped sceptre which will be an excellent starter weapon for magic.
I can't seem to figure out by only using the OSRS wiki if the Path of Glouphrie quest is completable by only going Kandarin or if it needs Tirannwn. I will double check this in the main game on a separate account later.
@@Velikan314 They have confirmed in the FAQ that it's available with just Kandarin.
@@tehownerful Ahh yes you are correct. Your addition about the warped sceptre is very much appreciated.
I'm thinking Tranwinn, Asgarnia and not sure on the 3rd. Couldnt I get amethyst darts for the blowpipe?
You can. I corrected this mistake just now in another video. ua-cam.com/video/XnfSSYBEzWE/v-deo.html
Twisted League did not have relics that benefit a single combat style and in Shattered Relics you could switch out your fragments. I don't think it's an entirely safe bet that Leagues IV will have combat style based relics so I think it's worth doing some theorycrafting with that in mind.
The first trailblazer league only buffed 1 combat style, and Mod Arcane unintentionally leaked in the leagues discord that there will be combat locked relics.
Don't forget that unlocking Fremmy gives assembler, which solves your dart problem. Ranged relic + 80% assembler means your 50 dragon dart tip vorkath drop will last A LONG time. Also worth noting that fremmy gives you venator ring (assuming you also have desert).
You are not wrong but you have to consider the fact that the blowpipe is a 1t weapon. 50 darts will last me 2500 shots (98% save?), 2500 ticks, 1500 seconds, only 25 minutes of (fulltime) use. Banking on ddarts may be a mistake. That said, other comments have pointed out you have access to Amethyst darts without needing Tourist Trap from Desert. My conclusion would be not to go for a Blowpipe without Desert or Asgarnia.
Yeah 1t bp will plow through darts, but i do think thats why its important to try to go for an ava's device, especially when dragon darts are +7 ranged strength over amethyst and +9 over rune. Its about as big of an upgrade as 1.5 anguishes. @@Velikan314
Also quick edit, 98% save is 5 times better of a save than 90% save. 50 darts will only last 5 minutes without an avs
I'd argue that tiranwinn supplies you with sufficient ranged gear in the form of the crystal armor. Its competitive with arma and you can then skip over amethysts by getting dragon dart tips from vorksth in fremmy and larrans and wilderness which opens up a likely far easier set of tasks than asgarnia or the desert will have.
you dont need tourist trap for second bis darts amethyst, so you can go tak, getting blowpipe, crystal, rigour, amethyst darts and potential tbow
Wildy underrated here for melee specs and magic
Can you elaborate why you don't consider Wilderness at all? You brought it up briefly in ranged route for Webweaver Bow, but Voidwaker could be a really fun choice with Weapon Specialist as well.
Area and relic choices tie into PVP combat in such a way that I am unfamiliar with, I don't want to pretend I have anything useful to say about it. On top of that, I think the Wilderness, like in Leagues 2, despite the addition of the Voidwaker, will still not be a popular pick as I think people who pick Wilderness aren't going to pick that area just for it's PvM options.
It is inconsistent of me to mention the Webweaver though as I don't mention the Voidwaker at all, while the Voidwaker is probably going to be one of the best spec weapons in Leagues 4. I fully intend to do another video on Leagues 4 once more is known about it and I will explore the Wilderness as an option more.
So with draining strikes in god wars, theres also the minions to consider when it comes to hp restore. What's more, is it might not reduce spec % use, but you don't have to worry about using healing specs as much, so you can use defense dropping specs, and when you start hitting ridiculous numbers it makes most things (including raids) foodless. It's op in my opinion. Also, with the magic route, doesnt kourend give thralls?
Kourend gives thralls but I think this will be useful for any route. I glossed over this in this video but I will mention this in any next video I do. Good addition. As for draining strikes, for last recallable bosses I'd argue weapon specialist will blow any relic out of the water. For raids it will be much better so I'm with you there.
I know you've already retconned the darts section, but you also didn't mention that vorkath drops a farily large amount of dragon darts, and it doesn't require tourist trap to add feathers to them
You are correct, I should have mentioned this in the video. I do think however you need some math to put the ddarts in perspective as with a 1 tick weapon, even with a 98% save you'll blow through your darts in minutes. This was a topic of discussion in Leagues II too and that's why I didn't even think about mentioning it. Now that I have uploaded this vid I realize this was a mistake.
Amethyst darts dont need tourist trap? Or am i missing something (for the range route)
I had to look this up. You are absolutely correct! This is a huge oversight on my end.
"Metal dart tips can be smithed in sets of 10 per bar after completing The Tourist Trap quest. Amethyst dart tips can be fletched in sets of 8 and do not require completion of The Tourist Trap. Each tip requires a feather to make it into a dart; feathering dart tips does not require completion of The Tourist Trap." Source: oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Dart_tip
I have adjusted the video title & description as this information punches a hole in the route.
@@Velikan314 yeah it punched a hole in my route as well. looking into going range as melee was fun last time but wanting something different. ranged is just so hard cause all decent to good ranged gear/content is end game and getting there in tyranwin + desert + fremmy doesnt sound fun (as in the early game). also keep in mind they want to change alot of the relics and tasks to make everything more balanced compared to last time. probably going to wait untill day of release and have some routes planned available for adjusting to what jagex is going to do. love the vid and theory crafting tho!
@@SkilleyeFE I expect changes to Last Recall, The Botanist and Unnatural Selection and I think they will put them in different tiers as they were easy picks in Leagues 2. I will not be theorycrafting these too much until Jagex confirms the relics. Unfortunately I think this will be only a few days before the release of Leagues 4.
As for tasks, I don't think they will change them up too much except for maybe the point distribution. Of course they will add tasks for the new content too. I'm not sure if it's worth theorycrafting on this before the list is confirmed. I will identify (and perhaps publish) the grinds that each area has (MTA, Chompy hunting & Ape Atoll laps to name a few) regardless of Jagex giving us any info.
@@Velikan314just another quick point, tourist trap is only for smithing dart tips not making darts. It hugely expends the amount of monsters on your dart drop list.
150 dragon tips for vorkath with the relic is equivalent of about 1300.
great video, a lot of effort was put into this
I personally really don't want to grind raids, like I see so many people on reddit saying they're taking desert/mory/kourend for all 3 raids and i'm like do you really want to be grinding raids for thousands of kc , youre very likely to go dry on at least 1 or 2 items which sounds awful (and possibly hundreds of kc on nightmare, fuck that lol), and how are you generally going to progress your account with desert/mory?
this is gonna be my first league basically so I think i'mjust gonna do a "vanilla/hybrid" and be happy with just gwd gear and then figure it out from there
All three raids is such a massive mistake I feel like. Like you are saying, big ticket items are still quite a grind. We speak of Tbows and Scythes as if they are easy to get but you may still go pretty dry. This means you need to plan out your mid-game and your pre-bis correctly.
My advice for a first timer is, assuming you aren't going for dragon cup, you have to realize you will destroy most bosses even with a whip and you probably have loads of fun in doing so. Take a look at what popular streamers are doing and you'll have a safe route on your hand. I think Jagex may be late this time around with releasing all information but you can decide on a route days after launch still.
It IS possible to pick a very bad route but even then it can be fun.
for melee build, nex for torva may require desert as well?
According to the reddit post which I used to base some of my routes on, Nex will not require both Desert and Asgarnia. Unfortunately we only have a Discord message to trust. Source: www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/15z8mia/updated_regional_unlocks_for_leagues_iv/ and i.imgur.com/ShnaPVf.png
Great video, love the theorycrafting.
I would be disappointed if all of their talks about "changing the previous metas" resulted in the same combat relics, I personally am expecting a variant of the combat relics that makes the 5t god-tier weapons like shadow/tbow/fang/scythe definitively the most powerful rather than the "halved attack speed" which benefits 4t/2t weapons much more. As such, I'm most excited for a mage build focused on shadow. Just like your route, Kandarin for Occult/Warped Sceptre/Torm (and chins/zmi), Desert for Virtus/Shadow, Kourend for the Ancestral upgrade/much easier Imbued Heart and a lot of skilling options for easier max cape.
I wouldn't assume 2x speed relics when Jagex probably wants people using tbow, scythe, fang, shadow. Leagues 1 relic was 1 tick faster per weapon. I wouldn't be surprised if they go similar to bandosian might from SRL where weapons max hit was increased based on tick speed so all weapons dps stayed similar to main game. Just a theory tho
Did they confirm that odd tick weapons will be rounded down?
Accumulator required morytania or fremennik last league as unlocking fremennik autocompleted ghosts ahoy.
I havn't done dps calcs, but I'm pretty sure that Virtus + magus + saturated heart is more dps than Ancestral + Augury.
So outside of ancients Virtus gives +3%, magus gives +2%. Saturated Heart gives +3 Magic levels over Imbued Heart. Ancestral gives +6%. Augury doesn't increase magic damage but the visible levels from Saturated Heart do so I think you are right.
Doesn't dragonhunter lance require a hasta and to get that don't you have to spend 300k money at Otto's Grotto which I thought was Kandarin? I think I'm just not realizing/understanding/forgetting something. I've been wondering this cause I'll be doing a lot of chambers so may grind this out. That said this will be my first league so keep that in mind with what I mention below.
I'm thinking a range route another consideration might be the dark bow. Could be another thing useful within Tirannwn if you go that route with increased damage/accuracy and lowered special along with going from an 8 tick on rapid to a 4 tick and weapons specialist making it so spec only takes 20%. I couldn't find any videos of people using it so not sure if its at all good. That said I won't be going tirannwn since I plan to do toa/chambers with the boys and/or solo when I wanna be a sweat and they aren't on. That said I'll still be gong for acb/zcb for range spec primarily in asgarnia as my picks. Probably will go for max cape too. May consider mage route kourend/desert/kandarin but kandarin falls off late game outside of occult/zenyte jewelry which is really strong. I'll probably have enough content with just desert/chambers grinding but I'm on the ropes about it.
Dark Bow is interesting but I am hesitant in recommending it. I don't see it's spec being on par with BGS, Chally, Dclaws or Voidwaker. I could be wrong. As for raiding, any combat relic is still valid with Desert + Kourend. Keep in mind you can run around without Piety with a Tekton hammer and still destroy everything and have fun.
For content that requires a lot of moving around , the heavy balista is king.
Yea. I'm thinking if 1/2 speed weapons relics make it, ballista at TOA makes sense. BP isn't going to be useful for warden fight but Ballista would be like t bow?
I dont think desert will be a trap for points because temporos
Love the guide. So many people are saying Kourend/Mory/Desert and I don't think many are thinking through the grinds/midgame too well.
One note for ranged: Fremennik auto completes DS2 giving you instant access to accumulator. Meaning the assembler will not require morytania. Additionally, the ammo save from quick shot stacks with avas for 97%/98% ammo save.
Personally debating between ADT or ADF. Blowpipe is great, but Venator sounds more fun. Don't think I want to grind CG though.
grinding virtus is gonna take a long time
I love me some An-chestral
you also need kandrin for dragon hunter lance right for the barb training.
I think you are correct. Jagex mentions "you'll still need to unlock Kandarin to learn the necessary techniques from Otto Godblessed" for Barbarian Fishing. I assume the same thing is true for hasta usage.
@Velikan314 this definitely makes choosing my 3 areas difficult, good video though!
If you are looking to focus on solo cox for league, why would you want to be mage focused? wouldn't that be the least helpful style for cox?
While I do believe ranged will be stronger, my assumption is that the accuracy bonus for ranged and magic relics will be so big the attack styles will become interchangeable for most content. I am not sure if some npcs in cox are straight up magic immune.
@@Velikan314 I am also planing on doing solo cox, olm hands are mage and melee only. and his head is ranged only. Mage hand being the least important to worry about imo as you take no damage whilst doing 4:0.
And for the rooms leading up to olm mage is probably the least important, tho with the crazy relics i wouldn't rule out any style specifically. but my guess is that melee and range will be more useful to spec into.
My current thoughts are that having balanced relics for cox might be the plan: thralls and void relics are my current thoughts on things to look for.
I am by no means experienced enough in CoX to speak on this manner but to my knowledge the hands and the head aren't immune to the "wrong" attack styles. With the range/magic relics accurary bonus I theorize you can probably hit all Olm parts perfectly fine. Ranged will probably outdps mage by a mile but my intention is learning chambers, not farming it efficiently, that's why I'm not afraid to go mage.
its not a 100% freeze rate on Barrage its 100% accuracy which is an insane dps increase on most bosses
Best overview I've seen yet! I've been doing some theorycrafting myself. I got dragon cup in all 3 leagues so far.
In trailblazer 1 I went with an unconventional route/relic loadout: Desert>Kandarin>Tirannwn with magic and exploding strikes. It was surprisingly synergistic and the ONLY drawback was going Tirannwn because (as you pointed out) the only thing from there worth a damn for magic is the swamp trident upgrade.
I had so much fun with magic last time that I'm tempted to do it again, with some changes based on relics.
Thanks for your comment! Do you have any specific activities worth mentioning in regards to exploding strikes? It's a niche pick and I want to make an overview of the posibilities with this relic once they are confirmed for Leagues 4.
@@Velikan314 I saw the most value in it because the other options were a bit underwhelming for my mage build. Exploding strikes was amazing with unnatural selection. I repeatedly choose smoke devils for a task, as the superiors had a 100% chance to drop both a hard and elite clue. So having a toxic trident with the speed of a blowpipe smashing clusters of smoke devils felt really strong, more dps than using ancient spells.
It was nice for nibblers and blobs in inferno. Although not too important but it was also nice for the small 1x1 mobs you kill at the start of a CG (gets first your weapon frame faster), making speed tasks a little easier.
I think it'll be even stronger this time around with the kourend catacombs being multi. Imagine going a range build with exploding strikes destroying nechs, dust devils, and jellies with a 1tick blowpipe. Or absolutely smashing the Baba puzzle as an AoE god.
Edit: Would be great at Nylo as well.
I'm sure I can think of more things.. it's definitely not something to sleep on 😂
@@mutants4882 I did some more research on Exploding Strikes and it definitely deserves some attention once Jagex confirms the relics as it blows Draining Strikes out of the water for slayer and it's not bad at GWD because of the sergeants. It's only downside, albeit a big one, is that it's completely useless when doing a boss that's by himself. It's a very interesting pick for magic and ranged users.
@@Velikan314 It's difficult to have any concrete plans without seeing the tasks/relics. My gut tells me that D>K>T (range) is going to be very strong. Hopefully they release all the information 2 hours before the update (like they did in years past). D>K>W (mage) also seems like it would be a lot of fun.
Draining strikes was busted, theres a reason it was most picked. I literally sat at fight caves with 1t bp and 0 supplies then afked until 27 fire capes were in my inventory.
Why does everyone keep sleeping on the tome of fire + smoke battlestick? Yeah its gunna stink to kill rune drags for wrath runes but you need 99 prayer anyways and their drops are pretty good gp.
Admittedly I haven't considered Tome of Fire but I'm not convinced. Fire Surge is 5t and trident is 4t. If the relics halve our attack speed then the trident will gain more dps. The biggest drawback for me are the pages that the tome needs. Unless the relic will save these pages, you'll be burning them too fast I reckon. We're gonna have to wait for Jagex to confirm the relics.
you can still fletch darts without desert you just cant smith them
If we get double speed relics again, then odd attack speed weapons that aren't raids mega-rares become garbage tier. Fang will be worse than whip nearly everywhere, and the gap between BP/Bowfa and T-bow gets smaller. Bowfa with double accuracy will beat other combat styles at places where it has no right to; it will probably be better than mage at olm mage hand and better than melee at olm melee hand.
They may steer away from 1/2 speed for that reason. Will have to see. But yea 2t tent whip way better than fang.
If you have 2x attack speed, Bowfa will make T Bow obselete
damn bro just reupload this video without the mistakes
Vids a day old. I'm fishing for feedback first.