OSRS Leagues IV - Guide on area picking (V2 - OUTDATED - READ DESCRIPTION)
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
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UPDATES:
Credit @HotLeafJuicer: According to the OSRS Leagues discords, which has Jmods in them, Piety only requires Kandarin and the Soulreaper axe pieces now drop from any DT2 boss.
Credit @Mikaa7150: I confused Bellator Ring with Venator Ring. Desert + Fremennik is the route you need for the Venator Ring.
Credit @DraGramis: I forgot about Amethyst Javelins.
Credit @tehownerful: Please consider how much of a grind Virtus/Magus/Saturated is going to be.
Credit @tehownerful: I may not have explored Kandarin + Kourend + Free Pick enough for Magic.
Credit @daniel69: Bowfa crystal charges are likely to be saved by the Quick Shots relic. I didn't explore this very well in the video.
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There is a bunch of information about Leagues IV that we don't know. But what we do know is the areas and the uniques within these areas. Because it is safe to assume that Jagex will probably give us the range/melee/magic relics as an option, we can theorycraft some routes with this information.
00:00 Introduction
01:18 About the old video
02:03 About the Wilderness
02:46 Notes before starting
04:55 About Combat Achievements
06:43 T3 Combat Relics
09:18 T6 Combat Relics
11:25 Melee route
17:11 About the Desert
18:24 About Kourend and Thralls
19:51 Ranged route
29:02 Heavy Ballista route
31:59 Ranged route cont.
33:12 Magic route
39:41 About Morytania
40:42 Magic rout cont.
42:09 About DT2 Bosses & Ancient Rings
43:15 Deciding on Areas
45:21 Deciding on Relics
46:17 My Path
47:05 Future theorycrafting
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Hey why is this talking about the Bellator ring as if it's a ranged thing? the ranged ring is Venator, from leviathan. not Bellator from Whisperer
I was so sure I got it right this time and 12 hours later I have another reason to redo the video for a third time. I confused the two rings. I'm gonna have to take a look at how wrong the information is and if it changes any routes.
Love the dedication you have to leagues 4. Looking forward to more as we get new information
thanks for your insight, magic looks a lot better since last leagues, i might go for that aswell.
Just to add to the blowpipe discussion, Kree'arra's minions commonly drop steel darts 90+ at a time and crystal implings (also in Tirannwn) give 50-100 rune darts commonly. In leagues 2 I played a ranged build without taking dessert or accumulator. I used rune darts for bossing and steel for everything else and I never felt like I was spending excessive time hunting for darts.
15:00, bit of new information, the soul reaper axe will drop all parts from all dt2 bosses, and work like making a bludgeon(no dupes) Sorry if others have commented on this already, just couldnt see any on a quick scroll.
37:24, Didn't include Accursed scepter, which is a kinda magic bgs. (Lowers target magic level, making magic more accurate) capped to 15% drain, and has 50% inc dmg+accuracy
I'm going to go khandarin, wilderness, and asgarnia with a melee build this time. Awesome video!
voidwaker gang
As you mentioned, we are here to pick apart the video haha. Ranging cape (kandarin) and max cape (Asgarnia) can be used as an Ava's accumulator (equivalent to the Morytania device) - but would still require Fremennik for the assembler effect.
Luckily, any feedback on this video betters us all!
1. I’m pretty sure Jmods have said Piety will be auto unlocked with Kandarin, but since Asgarnia is mandatory for melee that shouldn’t matter for most.
2. I think ZCB + ruby bolts for the guaranteed bolt proc could justify Weapon Specialist for ranged, especially depending on how lightbearer interacts.
3. If Lightbearer does half spec recharge, and weapon specialist works the same, you would get 30% spec every 15 secs, meaning that not only would you be able to do 5 specs to start, you would effectively be able to spec again every 10 seconds. Which could make damage dealing specs (esp voidwaker) absolutely bis
Just a quick heads up: you can get plenty of dragon darts tips from a variety of different monsters in the game. I think you could pick wildy or kourend and still have dart tips from either of the chests there.
The Accursed Sceptre from the Wilderness is an excellent special attack weapon for Magic and is arguably very viable considering if you will be maging bosses that aren't good to mage (Leviathan for Virtus for example) but you are ultimately right that Weapon specialist is pretty much useless for magic as Sceptre spec only works for 1 hit and most people will have a lightbearer from picking Desert so spec regen won't be a problem probably for mage enjoyers this league. Loved the video by the way, you actually made some great points that had me change up my originally planned route!
Thanks for the comment man. Make sure you read the video description & keep an eye out for any changes Jagex announces. Unfortunately, this video is slowly starting to show some cracks.
Great updated video! For range i would like to add a route here if you not only want pure ranged gameplay but overall gameplay as well. Desert + fremmy + tyranwin.
Crystal armor, bowfa, bp, vorkath backpack, upgraded range and mage ring, god dhide boots from clues, 2 additional spellbooks, masori + dragon crossbow as alternative, multible combat styles possible with mage robes from mta(or virtus if lucky), mage ring from dag kings and duke, obsidian armor and shield + blade of saeldor. Great skilling methods for all skills available (lunars is great for skilling) and to top it all off it is a great route for those that want to practise inferno for the main game.
Yes its alot easier then main game iknow... but thats why its practise and a good bit of fun. If something important is missing from this route or it has major flaws please let me know.
Thought it might be a fun route if you want soming else besides teleporting back and forth to gwd. Have a great day!
Adding to this, fortified masori is only a defensive upgrade and leagues is all about attack and we'll most likely have some defensive relic to take less damage
I will be really surprised if I see anyone grind out a dragon crossbow in leagues, but it's valid!
If the relics stay similar to last league, blowpipe can also be used just by having Ava's accumulator and a few drop tables that have darts or dart tips. In the last league Frem Tir Kand with range ended up being the region combo used by rank 1 for points and it focused on using the blowpipe as a weapon. Because the ammo save from the relic stacked with avas, it wasn't a problem.
Regardless bowfa will be better than blowpipe at nearly everything and has no ammo collection issue so it hardly matters.
Tumekens max's 64 with max mage, Sang max's 44 iirc
(with imbued heart outside toa)
If we have 2x attack speed then the sang actually comes out slightly ahead there
Piety will now only require Kandrin according to jmods, but I imagine you know that now. We also now know that minigame points will have buffs.
Soulreaper axe is also now available, they're adding every piece to each DT2 boss.
I haven't noticed anything actually. Where do I find this?
@@Velikan314 Info via the official Leagues disc. Though for the piety part, Archie mentioned it to me when he asked for permission to possibly use my regional unlock image (which you actually linked in your description). Just an FYI also, recently updated that image to version 9.
@@HotLeafJuicer I have found it. Thanks for letting me know!
What do you think about Asgarnia + Morytania + Desert? This way I would miss out Piety but I could have Lightbearer and with combination with sepecial attack relic I would be able to spam BGS but I don't know if it's worth it. Amazing video btw. very helpful.
Spamming BGS will be good but with Last Recall you don't need a Lightbearer. The Lightbearer will be mostly used in raids. With access to both ToB and ToA you have use for it but if that's the content you are primarily going to do you should consider Draining Strikes (if we get it). Speccing BGS twice on a boss is probably enough but I don't see much use for the Lightbearer, maybe in very high invo ToAs.
Do you know if the ammo saving relic will save crystal shards? And where do you think the Isle of souls will be placed? I think it is near Tiranwin so maybe there?
Leagues 2 ranged relic saved Crystal Arrow charges so I would think it would work for Bowfa as well. This is something I didn't explore well in this video. That saves the bowfa for me. As for Isle of Souls, I don't know. The wiki puts it at "The Western Sea", if I had to guess it would be Tirannwn.
Yup, for me melee is Mory, Asgarnia and free pick, likely leaning desert cause using soul reaper axe would be super fun
Hi. I'm exploring our options now as I'm working on a new video. Here's what I can tell you right now: Leviathan is available but can't be meleed. The Whisperer is in Asgarnia but I'm not sure how melee-able she is. For a valid soulreaper route you might have to include Kourend or Fremennik.
@Velikan314 Yeah, it will definitely depend on what relics and effects we end up getting. My general idea was if we could choose slayer tasks, then whisperer on task with tumekens should be a reasonable grind with no mage relics.
If all pieces drop at 1/512 or 1/~170 with 3x drop rate, that's about 700 expected kills for axe. Gear won't be max mage, but slayer helm will help a lot, imbued at soul wars, so even with no relics, it should be around a 40 hour grind, I'm not shooting for dragon cup so this is fine to me
Just a small thing, you didn't include the twisted buckler as a feature of Kourend which would be bis while you're using zcb/acb
What about the benefits of (elite) void?
If I want to rush Ballista ASAP, would you recommend whip+rune crossbow(and the little grind this entails) or d. scim+ msb (and come back to get whip after the ballista)?
I am assuming the whole ballista grind will take 10-15 hours (depending on gear and drop rate multipliers).
I think that doing the void grind early for starting cash might be worth it (it is also an opportunity to train combat stats).
Thank you for the video and I hope to see more theorycrafting concerning Leagues IV.
Keep in mind Elite Void requires the hard Western Provinces Diary which from the top of my head requires Tirannwn as well. As for regular void, it doesn't give use attack bonuses so they interact with the relics differently. It's probably decent but I can't tell for sure.
Rushing ballista can probably be done with dscim and msb but without a tier 6 relic fighting them may be disappointing. Personally I would postpone the grind a bit more. It all depends on how much you wanna rush it.
Blowpipe never required desert in leagues 2. I had tirannwan, kandarin, morytania. Never ran out of darts as they dropped from mith dragons and you saved almost all the ammo you used.
Thoughts on desert+zeah+asgarnia for range route? Have to hold out with a rune crossbow for a bit but access to two raids
I think this is a valid route. Attaining ACB + Rigour is very possible and is enough to clear any content in these areas. From there it's only up (ZCB/Tbow).
elite void + heavy ballista plus anguish sounds kinda nice
How important is getting piety in a melee route? do relics make up for not taking it. I want asgarnia kourend desert mostly to play with friends in toa and cox. But if piety is that much of a dps loss ill consider dropping one of the raids to be able to have piety
I'm not much of a dps calcer but I think Piety is a very significant dps boost. If you load up a dps calc for the main game you'll find that it's like a 20% difference in dps, depending on the target. While I do want to make a case that being suboptimal isn't that big of a deal, not going Piety is definitely suboptimal.
I was the one who mentioned the warped sceptre. I think you have overated fremennik for magic. First you need to drop an imbued heart (which is a lot easier especially with slayer relic but still a grind) then you need to grind 150k ancient essence. On top of that the end game bossing in Frem will be Vorkath and Muspah and if mage relic doesn't get some kind of penetration that's going to be rough. Desert will provide ring of shadows for just 75k and Zeah has the brimstone ring which provides very little but some magic penetration. I think Zeah beats Frem with potential for ancestral, augury and brimstone ring aswell as being able to barrage slayer tasks for an easy imbued heart.
Hi, thanks for watching this video again! It's a problem with these videos where we speak of areas as if we're gonna get all items in them. Getting full Virtus, a Magus Ring and a Saturated heart will be a mountain of a grind.
I think what you are mentioning is valid but I don't recommend Fremennik without Desert and Kandarin so I am not concerned with potential slayer tasks (stronghold dung, smoke dung & smoke devil dung) or gear (mystics, ring of shadows). I am also not worried about not being able to grind Vorkath/Muspah effectively unless Jagex makes changes to the Tier 3 relics, maybe I overestimate 125% increasd magic accuracy on Vorkath, not sure.
The comparison is just between Virtus + Magus + Sat and Ancestral + Augury + Thralls. People are going to have to decide for themselves which grind they are going to do. Perhaps I should have explored Kandarin + Kourend + Free Pick a little bit more?
They have to switch the relics about this time around, but I do want the double attack speed again, that was fun.
kind of contradicted your own statement but yeah it was fun
One thing is for sure: I will pick Asgarnia and everything will center around learning Nex for me. If I go range I will definitely pick Tiranwynn but I'm not sure about my third region. I won't be going Kourend because CoX will be updated soon. So it's between Desert and Kandarin. Both offer a great variety in skilling content and a decent magic switch so it's all about ranged. It's zenyte + elite void + ballista vs Masouri and Lightbearer.
If I were to go melee I'm not sure either. Asgarnia for sure but then? I'll be choosing between Kandarin, Desert, Morytania and maybe even Wilderniss. Desert seems unlikely as the Fang is too slow. Lightbearer would be great though it's not enough to convince me. I hate Sepulchre and Nightmare in Morytania but the blood shard, slayer helm, avernic, rapier and potentially even Scythe and full Justiciar if time allows it would be insane. So Morytania is probably my second choice. I think I would still go Kandarin for variety in skilling content, some type of magic switch for ToB, Piety, zenyte jewellry, elite(?) void and dragon scimitar. Wilderniss really only offers the best prayer training method, best moneymaking and the most insane spec weapon but Asgarnia has fantastic specs already with BGS/SGS/ZCB so that makes Wildy a third less attractive.
Actually the ballista might make Tiranwynn redundant. Maybe I'll go ranged with Asgarnia, Kandarin and Desert.
@@Roel93 fun isn't it? I fear Kandarin might be a horrible area because of the tasks in it as it has ape atoll laps and chompys, however relics might counteract this. It's pretty difficult to decide right now. Personally I'd decide on a weapon, armour and some content I wanna do and decide on 3 areas that way. Just make sure the gear you are eyeballing is actually attainable for you. If you wanna Nex and like Morytania you're already set for melee and range gear. Your third area is free.
@@Velikan314 Yeah love theorycrafting! Both melee and range paths seem fun. I know for sure that I want to do Nex because I heard it's the best moneymaker but I kind of want to explore ToA too since it should be accessible for noobs and it's better money than ToB. I did some ToB last league but not enough to be able to do it in the real game. I'm split on going melee and learning ToB (which I'm not sure I'll get down and might threaten the time I get to learn Nex) or ranged and learning ToA. If I go ranged I must choose between Tiranwynn and Kandarin. It's either suffering teh Gauntlet or suffering the dumb Kandarin tasks you mentioned. What would you say: BoFa or Ballista? Not sure if I hate demonic gorillas or the gauntlet more. Also not sure wether blowpipe is worth it if scales don't get spared.
I'm fairly sure I'll go melee since ToA I can learn in the real game whereas even entry mode ToB in the real game was so freaking hard even after doing normal mode a couple of times in Leagues.
What do you think will be BIS melee weapon? Scythe is 5 tick as well as Fang so maybe rapier?
Difficult to say. Perhaps a crush weapon with Inquisitor. Scythe will still be insane. You're gonna have to do a lot of dps calcs to get the answer, especially if you wanna consider melee accuracy as well.
Crystal imps drop rune darts + tips at a pretty high rate, and they're not too hard to hunt. I think the Tirannwyn pick isn't THAT bad for the blowpipe without needing other regions to supplement darts
For melee, if you're going Asgarnia and Morytania, is it really worth going Kandarin when the only useful thing you'll get is Piety? Zenytes aren't that important since you can get blood fury. The other Kandarin items are a bit underwhelming except for early game. I get PIety is very good but using an entire zone pick just for Piety doesn't seem worth it imo.
I motivate my choice for Kandarin by looking at the other zones to see if there's something there that will beat Piety. In terms of DPS I don't think there is, but what I didn't explain very well in this video that if you pick an area like Fremennik instead, the difference in DPS is so low you probably won't even notice it. If you have a reason to be in an another area, go there instead. Also, don't forget the tasks in Kandarin alone are a good reason not to go there to begin with (Chompys, Ape atoll laps).
@@Velikan314 Fair enough. I agree that combo is the best choice if you're strictly going for the maximum melee DPS. I think I'll choose something else besides kandarin personally just so I can get some better range/mage items as well for content that requires those combat styles.
How does Wildy work in Leagues? If someone PKs me, can I just go back and pick my stuff up? They might just camp it to screw with me?
Piety is really good, yes. But it’s not as huge as you make it out to be. You still have the lesser prayers so its about 8% str bonus and 5% accuracy bonus. With a region as shit on content as kandarin idk if thats Even remotly worth it.
What do you think about accused sceptre as a spec weapon for mage? Seems pretty strong to me.
Accursed scepter drains 15% magic defense on a successful hit but won't drain below 15%. One spec per mob would be enough so I don't think weapon specialist is worth much.
I see, i didn't know it won't stack. At least it's another + for wildy. 15% might make a difference going mage only against high defense bosses.
Do you really think piety alone is worth so much for melee over picking a different region instead of kandarin like fremmenik (poh, good helm slot early, dks), kourend (Dwh, elder maul, dclaws, etc), wilderness (voidwaker)? It probably is DPS wise but otherwise kandarin seems like such a dead reigon so i'm not sure.
Zenytes in general seem overvalued when blood fury is so gigabroken with scythe. Dscim is nice but dlong is pretty okay with the relics already
The short answer is yes. The long answer is:
"Optimal" in Leagues is a really interesting concept. I tried to touch on this in the video but it's really difficult to explain the whole thing without taking too much time as I think 50 minutes is too long for a video already.
Take a look at the dlong - The dlong is a much weaker weapon than the dscim because of the attack speeds, however, if you consider the time that you're going to use it (before whip) then you can perfectly run around with a dlong and it isn't going to set you back much at all in terms of time spent before whip. Let's say getting 85 slayer takes a few days, having a dlong instead of a dscim isn't going to change the amount of hours spent before whip that much.
As for Piety, it's a great DPS upgrade. I present Kandarin + Asgarnia + Free Pick as the primary option but I don't consider dropping Kandarin because I don't value the other zones that highly. For instance, Fremmy gives the Zerker ring but without Kandarin you can't imbue it. Ultimately, it is not enough for me to consider dropping Kandarin.
If you wanna be in certain zones (raids is the popular argument), just go there. You have more fun, you can still get Dragon cup if you want to, and whatever setup you have is probably enough to destroy all content in the game. You'll be fine.
Thoughts on colossal blade?
One more question is BOWFA gonna be better than Blowpipe with relics?
1 tick blowpipe is actually kinda bad because you can't move without losing ticks, that being said they may change the attack speed relics.
When you were talking about the Ballista, you forgot about Amethyst javelins
It was bound to happen.
Last league i had KAT as regions
got dragon, i never had a dart problem
you have to hunt a butt load of crystal imps for the ring, which gives rune darts
What purpose did you use the crystal signet for?
It was 250 point task@@NS-qx5mt
Venator bow could be pretty fun for fremennik ranged.
Idk I wouldn't count thralls out, if we get another relic that makes them do 3x damage that's a ton of free passive damage worth considering
I agree, if we get something like that then Kourend gets a massive bump.
didnt JMods say MTA will be made a lot faster?
Can't find anything on this. If you can, please let me know.
Last leagues (3) solo Tob was easy. If i go kandarin asgarnia mory how do i get a onyx?
Thanks for the info, that's good to know. Onyx should be available through karamja. I think irons sell chaos runes for tokkul and then buy the onyx from the shop.
@@Velikan314 Ok and karamja is free unlock right? Thing with solo tob is aswell it really depends if we get something like absolute unit which reduced damage by 50 or 66% can't remember without something like that it will be rough
Why does piety require both
Not 100% sure but King's Ransom requires Black Knight Fortress which is in Asgarnia.
It won't according to a JMod comment. Originally in og trailblazer the King's Ransom quest was going to autounlock with Kandarin, but it was changed to needing to do the quest manually (need to visit Asgarnia during the quest) as a balancing change to nerf Kandarin. For trailblazer league 2 piety will be changed back to a kandarin autounlock, likely because there are more competitive choices.
Im thinking magic route because of how damn boring doing GWD was last league
Agree with most of this but I think its straight up trolling to say Kandarin is all but required for melee. I think its easily one of the worst regions unless you're going magic. Its only BIS is Zenytes/Occult which only matters for Magic. 7% str and 5% att on a prayer is not worth choosing a region for. The Dcim has plenty of peers or near equivalents and a t60 weapon is not a good reason to choose a region.
Kandarin also has by far some of the worst tasks and content of all the regions. I can't even think of a single BiS training method in the region while other regions offer BiS training methods that are task/time efficient too like Tempoross, Pyramid Plunder, Soul Wars, Pest control, etc. The midgame it offers isn't even strong since anyone going Magic will go Desert and infinity/wand/tome of water are much better than the new staff+mystic and anyone going melee would rather have a defender, void, and a dmace/baxe than a dscim.
I agree on Kandarin is a horrible area. But within the context of the video I only weigh Kandarin on the 7% str and 5% attack prayer + Zenytes, and I weigh it against a Zerker ring, a fang or maybe a Voidwaker. Because Kandarin + Asgarnia still leaves room for a free pick, Kandarin is in all routes.
That said, if I am going melee this League I am 100% not going Kandarin because of the reasons you mentioned. I found it pretty difficult to explain my thought process properly. These vids easily become longer than 60 minutes.