Star Citizen Live Q&A: UI Features 3.23
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
- Join us today as members of the UI feature team throw a bone at answering your questions about the upcoming UI changes coming in Alpha 3.23 including mobiGlas, Starmap and more!
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Questions/Time Stamps
3:34 Will we be able to set different zoom levels as default?
5:19 Do you plan to add filters on the interior maps and star maps so we can easily find specific Point Of Interest?
9:24 Will our map pinpoint markers that we drop be persistent if we log out and log back in the next day?
10:42 Will we be able to share the locations that we save from the star map with other players?
11:29 Will we be able to set pins in space?
12:11 What progress has been made on UI elements to assist with landing ships from the first person pilot seat view?
16:07 What's up with the UI being so holographic it can become unreadable at some times?
20:37 Why don't you just start with readability and then add style later?
26:24 Technical Difficulties
27:26 Readability?
35:49 What other Mobi Glass Apps can we look forward to?
37:55 Is there a plan to avoid HUD clutter?
43:12 Search bars and scrollable chat?
44:19 Latitude longitude altitude readout question
47:02 Are there plans to make the UI UX of the cockpit view be as good as the external starship view?
49:07 Will planets in the Star Map be an actual render from the real ones?
50:16 The current animation for opening the Mobi Glass is rather slow. Now that we have great things like interior maps, is there a potential to quickly check Mobi where you are?
52:42 Why does path finding not work between several rooms or even several planets?
56:02 Will there be a means of locating our ships further out then just 20km away?
57:30 Ultra widescreen monitors?
59:30 What about the ability to change where your mini map is? (Customization)
If anyone needs a free ship its this guy up here ^
I'm so glad you gave Technical Difficulties its own bookmark
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Thanks!
You angel
BONE
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The man him self!
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Keep up the good work CIG! Way too often people forget that nothing is final, like in most other game releases/updates! People tend to grab the pitchforks way too early 😅 I know first-hand how much CIG works on a patch during the E/PTU testing cycle ❤And when a patch finally goes Live the iterative process doesn't stop, that's THE best thing about CIG, the constant care and love they have for the game and the community is mostly unmatched in this industry, people have to learn to appreciate CIG , we have a VERY good thing going on here! Kudos! 😁🚀
Giving Jared a new toy to play with during a live broadcast was obviously going to be a distraction. Why didn't anyone foresee this? ;)
Please make Bone an in 'verse character. He deserves it
Jarred’s mischief is always fun
I bet it helps keep him sane. Jared is one of my favorite people at CIG.
That window in the background would be awesome if it were live at a busy location in star citizen
if it's set on a live server
players will be heckling constantly
would be fun to do once though
Make it an outlook on orison hangars to see all the people trying to find their hangar
there are no busy locations in sc.
servers are not even capable to have a few brain dead targets per mission do more than jiggle uselessly around.
providing traffic seems to be orders of magnitude beyond their limits 😂
people would be dropping through the ground and dieing randomly all the time... Imagine sitting there trying to hype up people when there's a complete dumpster fire behind you on a big screen
PLEASE: Give us some navigation/landing aids!
- Radar altimeter, so we know how far above the surface our ship is!
- Landing camera, so that we can look down to where we are landing
- Landing pad position indicator, electronic "bullseye" indicator
- Holographic path indicators, to show the path to your assigned landing pad/hangar.
The current tick mark can be hard to find if you are on the wrong side of a station. Some holographic frames of the suggested path to the pad would be nice, to make it simpler to see the approach path from all angles.
-and Night vision
We even had a landing UI years ago :)
It's coming back I'm sure but sure is taking a while.
Jared should always be given control over the cameras! 🤣
All the transitions, wipes and fades I thought I was watching a Neil Breen film 🤣🤣🤣
Always fun to see Jared having a good time.
Gods I love “Blimey”.
Also, this episode is the perfect example of why Jarred is the little brother who should only ever be handed the disconnected controller.
I love that Jared is having fun with the equipment lol
It makes the interviews feel more friendly and less corporate
big up the UI team
love the work they have put into this patch so far good job team!
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UI crew for the win! It's fantastic to see people that much in love with what they are working on and having roughly the same vision for that part of the game as the community. Always a pleasure to listen to this bunch! 😍
Be cool to tap or long press F2 depending on if you want interior / starmap.
I love the new mobiglas. Looks fine to me & how fast do you want it to pop up??
I like the long press idea. Longer is better.
Except for radar ping...
You guys should be proud of yourself😊👍 What an amazing job you guys are doing with this game🤩
LOL Jared changing camera views to wide angle to just catch the body floating by.
the UI team has one of the most demanding jobs at CIG as everything requires UI in order for players to interact with the gameworld, so you guys are doing Christ Roberts work. please keep it up.
Jared i feel you, easily amuse yourself on the silliest of things and remember to push **ALL** the buttons!
and Meg, your question about POI curating on the map was asked
I kind of need more of these scene transitions in future SCLs
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CiG makes a great Jobs! Thanks to to team. You are going in the rigth direction with your gameplay balancing with Mastermodes, higher Ship prices etc. Iam looking forward to 3.23!
11:48 Jared having too much fun with transitions lol i love it
If they focus on "Readability but not how we see it" then I'd argue that's much the same as simply not focusing on readability. We don't read wire frames, and the number 1 thing that makes a UI/HUD cool is functionality. Everything else is tied for last place.
Elite Dangerous has a nice system for when landing gear are deployed that a holographic image of the ship appears replacing the central radar display with a zoomed out view of the ship and its surroundings, whether that be a landing pad which has guides lines and a central point to aim for or just the lay of the terrain and indicators if its too steep or bumpy for your ship to land on.
Something similar to this ai think would work great for Star Citizen especially since it could just use much of the same data and methods as the new minimap does in 3.23. Popup a overlay on the ships HUD or in the corner of the helmet when landing gear are deployed. Should work like a charm for the most parts.
100% this could be done perfectly using the current map tech
Actually, what they describe at the 13:25 mark seems to be pretty much that
11:48 I'm so glad I started watching this episode instead of listening only, or I would have missed this gem.
BOOOOOOOONEEEEE!
The UI team are so wholesome 😊
40:40 "the most permanent thing in any video game is the temporary solution, which will last to make everyone's life difficult forever, which is why we look for the systemic solutions'"
I like the UI, but I am glad to hear them acknowledge the possibility to toggle elements. Hopefully that philosophy does end up extending to the minimap/ammo counter etc. as well and they respect the players ability to be able to choose for themselves what they do or don't need at any given time.
It all seems very challenging..Thank you 👍🏻
Can we please have a loitering penalty for leaving your ship on landing pads at orbital stations? Possibly impound after something like 30 min and add a fee to reclaim said ship. The clutter is insane on a very high trafficked station.
That's why we're getting instanced Hangars
The production value is off the charts Jared
Awesome job!! exciting stuff!
Is there a plan to make sure the ship U.I. ACTUALLY fits the style of Cockpit canopy so that ALL elements can be seen properly? Right now, on several ships the U.I. seems to be OUTSIDE the canopy, and the altimeter cannot be seen at all.
Gotta ask during the live videos on twitch or pre q.a best way to get an answer :)
Holy smokes the interacting around the @37:00 mark had me cracking up!
25:11 Glad Zane calls this out... it was driving me crazy.... The first few times I thought it was server lag.
33:55.. That Effect is the ONE thing I wish they'd change about SC... For example.. the Syulen has three pulse bar purple lights on the cockpit dash... It's a really cool effect.. but it causes the in-game effect (de-saturation/de-contrast) they're describing to trigger... After playing longer than 10 minutes or so I get throbbing headaches because my eyes (My eyes, not my ' character') to constantly ACTUALLY adjust.. so it's a doubly intense effect. The longer I try to fly that ship, the more intense the affect. IT LITERALLY BRINGS ME PAIN. But I guess it's a feature not a bug. Sigh.
Um, you need to go see a doctor...this is not CIG's fault at all for your own medical condition
My idea to address the QT marker display clutter.
Say you start up your QD, and you toggle (scroll wheel?) through a generalised list of Poi's to display on your hud.
Refinery Stations, Lagrange Points, Planets, Jump Points, etc. And set your markers to display only one of those location types on the hud.
Default markers for when you first turn on your QD would only display for the local planetary system you're currently in. Show that planet's landing zone, the moons, OMs, and LEO station, and that's it. Keep the display as clean as possible.
I think that would really help minimize overlapping markers if you don't want to just type in the location you want on the search bar. Maybe even use the search bar itself to do all the above. No toggles or scroll wheels needed.
I say it's my idea, but it seems like such an obvious one to fix the cluttering I find it impossible to believe they didn't think this already. And maybe they have and that's the plan "in the future", eventually.
But what do I know? I'm just here trying to QT to where I actually wanna go. 😒
This was sooooo profesional show. Jared you rocks! ;)
I would like to report you for being totally Awesome. Has your channel ever considered adding the tip / thanks button to your channel because your crew is doing a fantastic job?
They sell all different color mobiglasses on microtech. Maybe its more than just the band that changes color.
I feel like Zane would be a cool dude in a super sentai or power rangers show
Also Jared DO NOT PRESS THE RED BUTTON!!
The mobiGlass and org comment is very intriguing! I've been wondering about how orgs would be integrated into contracts, whether there would be missions that aren't simply criminal but have some kind of in-game political reason (and consequence); i.e. working for Hurston to put down a Worker's Party operation as well as working with the Worker's Party to sabotage Hurston's operations.
It’s about time we’re talking about org features. Couldn’t come soon enough Ty😊
the nice thing is that you are always learning and try out new things
the bad thing is that you are always learning and can't try out new things because time runs out
Super relieved there's plans for an org app in the Mobi. For the longest time, my org has had to create an "Alpha Chat" as a persistent org chat channel for each patch, just so we can chat without using party or global chat
As for the pin thing, I suggest make it client-side so that it can be stored, edited and accessed locally. That way data can be sold/shared/used in any way the end users desire.
The plan is to sell the data in game as data. Thats what data running is for.
downward facing camera displayed on the hud seems like a pretty easy solution for landing problems
My thoughts for a systemic solution for overlapping quantum markers would be to merge the markers into one larger and different coloured marker. The pilot clicks onto the marker, a pop up box then appears with the list of merged poi’s The pilot can then choose and select their desired location to begin navigation.
Jumped into 3.23 for the first time last night, UI updates are GREAT!!! I felt like I was squinting alot, not sure if there's something on my end to fix yet or not, but even with that, it's a big improvement. I can finally see when gear is down or VTOL is on. There's so many little things that came together in the ui to make it a big improvement. CIG is on fire right now, keep it up!!!!
Might be one of the best shows on youtube. Jared is a joy.
Had a thought about landings in first person, carriers have an OLS and pilots follow the “ball” to guide them onto the deck and indicate whether they are too high, too low etc. perhaps this can be modified into a 6dof environment on the radar where there are green or red markers to show a ship is positioned correctly to allow entry into the hangar. Ie, the pilot calls ATC, radar changes to red lights around a depiction of the ship with arrows and as the pilot moves they change. Once all green, the pilot can descend, fly straight etc into the hangar. For pads with no ATC it will still be up to pilots to land safely just like in the real world using proximity warnings as an alert.
as someone who has a 21:9 monitor, moving and resizing things like mini-map that tend to choose the absolute corner is very helpful. Looking back at what you said earlier "make it data driven because the ruleset is too big." The rule-set you need to beat customization is equally as difficult in comparison. If you are looking to solve the majority of use cases.
"Yes."
"Do you want to elaborate?"
"Oh, no." 😂
12:40
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Bone seems alot more confortable now, good for him
Finally comment about eye injury and colorblindness etc. Those of us with those problems have been suffering this for years. I am not colorblind but had major injuries to my eyes from military injuries. I have trouble focusing certain colors. For me, certain features like chromatic stuff I literally cannot focus at all on and brings instant pain when I look at something like that. Thankfully in that case, I can turn it off. But yea, you really need to put some work into this because it is a real life problem for many backers.
I just would like to change the hud colour to the Blade and Glaive from RED to Blue LOL
Doing a great job on the UI
Only at the 20 minute mark here, but I wanted to stop and take the time to write this while it was fresh.
I truly appreciate all the tweaks that have gone into the UI in 3.23 since it first dropped.
It has gone a long way to keep me able to play.
Some of it was a bit overdone, and I am glad that wrangling it in was an option.
The strobing on things was really bad for me. Just in how fast and how bloomy the strobe effect was.
You all did amazing job to dial it in on the mininmap. You can still see it, but now I can actually look at the minimap for a period of time.
It is subtle enough that is isn't triggering anything for me.
I really appreciate that the strobing was removed form the main ship UI. QT markers got a pass, the circle animation with the glittery effect was killing me.
Pretty happy with all the tweaks. I am glad that feedback helped to get it to where it is.
Starting at around 3:10, we can see the live background on the wall. It looks awesome. How is it done? Is it a large screen or a projector?
@51:00 Good response. Made me happy.
6:00 will be handy for something like this to show your location as a Starfarer, Vulcan, Merchantman, Crucible, Starliner etc and have beacons on your location, and you can filter the map to find the nearest re-fuelling ship for example
He DID say that 3.23 CAN go to LIVE by next Thursday, didn't he?! 😮😮😮
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Oh I know Jared is going to have fun with the cameras. Just dont forget to check that all the lenses are focused. Good show though.
BONE!
love the vids as always guys! i will say though i think yall could use a couch in the sapace ship, to make the devs more comfortable, they always look so proper and almost like they are held hostage lol just a thought
So are there going to be coordinates? Cause how else would we set markers in soace if its not corelated to a building.
would say a update of the Technical difficulties screen is needed 😅 Specially the charakter a ingame one is possible!
I love how Jared always asks the tough questions. We love you Jared!
Regarding the question at 49:07, it would be cool in the future for unexplored planets that we discovered to only show no/low detail until that area is scanned thoroughly or explored in the Starmap.
Location icons defo need calming down XD. My screen is so busy rn with all these animations flashing about every time I move my ship around. Subtle is better for me personally. Think less flashy and more intuitive and informative (without giant text all over things). Smaller icons maybe and not so bright. 'Cool' is sometimes less and sleek, not more and flashy. Keep the iterations coming and I'm sure you will nail it.
Whenever you guys get around to adding accessibility for the UI...
Just dont change anything for drake!
Its an additional expense, and drake dont do additional expenses!
Give option to turn off every ui .
Why not
Cos as they said...they want it to look 3d and cool...unfortunately their aspirations are way higher than their competence
I think these guys are incredibly competent and your toxic non constructive comments denigrating their efforts are neither warranted or required
On the helmet HUD in 3.23, what does "HPA" stand for? It randomly comes up in the lower left...
Love the video but I do got a question will there ever be an app that works something like Erkul where we can build our ship loadout in game and then actually know where to buy such components.
Good SCL, learned a lot
I wonder if eventually exploration gained maps like terrain maps will eventually be locally stored (streamed and saved locally as you physically explore the area then when revisiting you just pull from local storage instead of slowing the servers by streaming all those to map renders to every player)
Comms app will be replaced by an app to handle org stuff.
That better not mean global chat goes away. That would just fly in the face of the large chunk of players that don't play with an org. Most of my experiences and most of the friends I've made in the game were randoms in global chat.
That technical difficulties music is fire
Very cool
How about a toggleable contrast slider for all the UI? Even our phone has backlight slider, I bet our holographic phone in the future would have one too, after all...increasing the led backlight brightness is mainly to make it usable under bright light.
Actual aircraft use glare shields to help keep the flight displays readable, just sayin
@51:10 Could we get a customizable hud that displays the map and whatever you choose?
He said Org tools!!! That's what we need for the hangars: permissions app!
Very GooD!
Maybe one could place a beacon and other ships can pick up the beacon with scanning but only you have it on the map?
So when you leave for example some quantanium behind, you leave a beacon there to return to the exact same spot (quantum jump) when you are done transporting. When you return you can then disable the beacon to retrieve it or something.
Yes, but some UI elements like the chat interface and menu's can all be rendered on top!
The whole mobiGlass UI can be rendered at full 4k resolution with the game world at 1080p with 200% scaling.
@17:00, rather than trying to find one UI effect that's perfect for every player and situation, wouldn't the ability change opacity, brightness, and color on-the-fly be better? And if you could assign a keybind it, make it an easy change in flight. Like if I needed to fade-out the UI quickly as I look for a person on the ground to rescue.
IMO trying to find one perfect setting will be impossible. Look at the modding community around Elite Dangerous' UI.
Here's a curve-ball; can we get an option for OpenDyslexic font? ~It wont be "balanced" for everyone, but when you need it, you need it.
EDIT: 30:00 guess you were ready for it. lol
01:03:27 - Or machinima roleplaying
I love the way that Dave just jumped right in and ran with it. Perhaps a guest host sometime? Also: What PTZ camera control is that you're using Jared?
Its a Blackmagic ATEM Panel, so just an CAT connected Surface for a BM Switcher, were you connect the Inputs (BM Cams like Pockets or Studio) and Outputs. Its not a PTZ Controller in this case
Background legibility = pick a color that stands out against light or dark... Like gold, electric blue; don't use light, pastel colors.
I really want to see Zane make the "Google Earth"-like Starmap work.
Another thing I'm hoping is for a topographical layer for those of us who can read and appreciate those. Although if he's able to make the Starmap have a very good shaded relief visualization, that'd be basically as good. Better for some, I'm sure.
The point is I'd really like to be able to identify hills and valleys. Idk if roughness in terms of very rocky/messy terrain can also be visualized to help players pick better surface routes for tank convoys etc.
A player markers : place the marker and let them us the quantum nav manual quantum jump mode unless a an expensive physical beacon exists that has AND custom starmap explored / charted and uploaded with beacons
BONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!
These always make me wish I had gotten into game development
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And here's the SC game loop spelled out on the wall: take ages to finish something, invent some new system to improve said finished thing, ship sale, take ages to finish something using the new thing you invented....ad infinity
What a carry on 😅 (Most will not understand this)
Jobdescription that always fits: "Subject matter Specialist"
@ 50:02 YES, you could save a rock formation you found and post a location contract and sell the data to miners that would gladly go and mine the rocks. The miners should be able to give you a serious negative rating if they get attacked by pirates while picking up your rocks. Maybe a dual contract is required? We'll give you the coordinates and provide security while you pick them up??
yes, I really hope they could add a dynamic contract creator. So players could create any sort of task/job, and then publish it for anyone else to undertake. You see date created, timeframe of undertaking, creator name + reputation, payment, etc.
So data trade, item trade, cargo transport (imagine being able to take a contract to move another player's inventory from one place to another, and it's all physicalised..), escort, bounty, refuel, medical aid or rescue, personnel transport, towing ship, salvage....
Why give someone who gave you coordinates a bad rating if you were attacked by pirates? You review the product, if the rock had nothing you could give a poor rating, if there was no rock, you could give a bad rating, because you got pulled from quantum and attacked by pirates has nothing to do with the product. It’s like saying, I bought a product from Amazon and it works great but it gets 1 star because FedEx left it at the bottom of the stairs instead of the porch.
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Bone 😍 you should invite him more 🙃😉😊