I once had to sell an expensive camera to a guy I arranged to meet in a shopping mall. Just to be safe, I brought a friend with me as backup. Well, apparently, the guy thought the same thing and brought his brother with him lol. It felt like a gangster scene from a movie because we were sweating over the camera/money so much and both had "bodyguards" just standing there awkwardly XD
Have you tried using the extension thing? That comes in the creator kit? Much easier to hold that way. I can’t imagine that you’d have a problem selling it as they are very hard to get right now. I’ve been on waitlist as it’s backordered for the last four months straight. I’m shocked you are having a hard time selling it! I also sincerely hope that you keep trying it and learning it and make more videos with it like this because it’s refreshing to see someone speaking about the negative elements of the camera versus just glorifying it. (I’m a professional photographer so I’m buying and selling 24/7, it’s kind of a problem, lol. To be fair I live in Los Angeles so when I put something up it sells in 8 hours. Literally. Lol). PS: Great storytelling! Keep the pocket and make more videos with it! Please!
I have the creator kit, yes, but the extension doesn’t make it any more comfortable to hold. I might just need more time with it. Thanks for your thoughts!
As a hobbyist, I'm so rubbish with "real gimbals" I mostly use them on a tripod/fluid head. My OP3 likes: it goes on more mobile supports (video monopod, fake jib/pole with a case/roll cage and phone as monitor), it turns vertical for Insta, etc., which Villanelle says is pathetic, and one gets gently coerced into learning about focus movement, subject tracking and how to grade 10-bit.
I, too, liked that it went on more supports. It was either this or the GoPro Hero 12 (which came out with a regular/standard tripod mount in addition to their GoPro flip-down flaps), but I already had a GoPro, so I thought I would try something new.
I actually just sold my zve1 two days ago on eBay (with a $100 lens and cage) for $1800, which I had for a year and a half, so for me that feels like a $400 rental fee for 18 months... Granted they take a 13% fee; it's still worth it so I don't have to deal with people. As an introvert and camera-junky that's a win, win. I say all this because I was planning on picking up the pocket3 to replace the zve1 as my b-cam... And you've made me rethink that idea altogether, so well-timed video. Thank you! Also, I dig your style of videos in general. It's a clever format or spin on the typical review formula. I see you blowing up quickly, so keep these coming!
Glad you're real about the pocket 3. If you're used to gimbal work, walking like a ninja, and don't tilt cameras up and down and pan side to side much and are okay with fragile equipment, ya, the pocket 3 is good. I just sold my 3 y/o A7 IV on FB and went pretty well. but there were about 20 offers to swap the sony for e-bikes, drones, etc.
I have the exact same sentiment / problem with my osmo. I cant bring myself to want to use it. Its weird, thought I was the only one. Do i sell or keep it? Id rather have a zve1 or s9. Lets also not talk about the small lense filters that are cumbersome. I think id prefer the shape of the action 4 with a 1" sensor much more - but not sure they will release the 5 with one or not.
Oh yeah! I didn't even get into the small lens filters because that was going to be a whole other thing. I, too, prefer the shape of action cams like the Action 4 or GoPros even. But yeah, the sensor size is what would convince me to actually get one.
It’s great to hear about your experience with the Osmo! We’ve been using it for a few months now too, and it’s been perfect for the kind of content we create. We’re still a bit hesitant about filming in public, so the Osmo’s small size is a huge plus, especially when we’re shooting in places like restaurants. Despite how delicate it might seem, it’s actually pretty durable. We’ve accidentally left the case behind a few times, but the Osmo and Gimbal are still in perfect shape. Of course, our content is a bit different (we’re not quite as wet! 😂), and yours definitely has a stronger focus on aesthetics 😉. I (Sandro) have only ever shot videos with my phone and the Osmo, which probably has helped me build that muscle memory you mentioned a lot faster. And if you ever want to send that Osmo over to Switzerland, we’d be happy to take it off your hands! 😉 Great video and looking forward to the next one, doesn't matter which camera you use. Cheers
I don't own a Pocket 3 but I chose not to buy one for the fragility problem you mentioned in your video. I've heard from numerous sources that gimbals can be very problematic to operate. I also agree that Craigslist sucks for selling camera gear. I recommend a pawn shop. If you can find a good one, the owners will be very professional and it can be a very comfortable experience to sell used gear there. Although you may not get as much money as you would on Craigslist. It all depends on what you're selling.
Hey, I just saw your video, and it's so accurate! I really like the OP3, but even though I take good care of my gear, for my outdoor adventures, it's very risky to bring this camera with me. it's like holding an egg on a spoon...I really like this camera but it's some kind of very frustrating at the same time. No weather-sealed, gimball is very delicate, If the camera falls from a short height onto the side of the screen while it's in landscape mode : game over. I already broke it, this camera increase my cortisol each tilme I use it lol I'm gonna probably sell it before I destroy it and get 0 money back ... very cool channel btw, keep posting !
I'm glad you do! Really. And yes, dropping it while it's in landscape mode is my biggest fear. I know screen damage can happen to any camera when you drop it, but for some reason this one can get away easier from my little fingers haha
I feel your pain with the Osmo pocket 3 but it handles much better for me when I the threaded attachment and I screw in small tripod so I have abou 7-9 additional inches that I can quickly remove and throw the whole setup in my pocket or in a sling bag. You already know in low light nothing beats the Sony ZV-E1, normally I have the 20mm 1.8 on it . I view the Pocket 3 as second camera to have , if you like getting BTS it may work great for that with its active track and the DJI Mimo app.
I have tried for so many years to like Sony cameras. I've used, sold or returned an A6000, A6300, A6700 and an A7iii but still to this day can't stand the ergonomics, the screens, or the menu and interface and the "feel". First date awkwardness. Nikon's are my happy place and Canon's I can use to get a job done. It's that feeling when you first pick the camera up and you just know that you're going to "friends" for a long time.
That’s a great way of putting it. I definitely feel this camera is like that person you try to get to know but no matter what, you just can’t get along!
The Osmo 3 is a very specific tool just like all other cameras. If it doesn’t fit a specific need don’t use it. Great part about our camera world is reselling our cameras is pretty easy. Cheers.
I also don’t like to sell used things to the others. My problem is that I tried to make the most use of it. But also I like to taste all the new products. So I kept many things (old but still operational).
I have been using all three iterations 🙂I treat them as a "supporting cameras". When you are in the car and want to capture stabilised footage or for group handling. I like passing the camera down a table at a party and whoever is interested can record his/her message. I've got to agree with you, the gimbal can be hard to learn and to use. Sometimes, it has a life of its own, not focusing on where you intend it to go. I do find that the iPhone 15 PM records better video quality (at least for me, in Apple Log) but none of these two can rival the A7IV.
Passing it down a table at a party sounds like such a nice idea for memories to review later 😊 but yes, that’s exactly what I experienced -it has a life of its own!!
@@BadSloucher when people are in the moment, they have a lot of to say and meaningful too. Instead of 'interviews' after the party. And you can see genuine emotions/surprises
Totally agree I got the first gen pocket when it released but it always felt like I was holding some fragile bird. You spend too much mental worry with that thing it’s just not comfortable for me either. It always has to go in the case, and when you boot it, you have to center it etc. just too many little annoyances completely saps the fun of shooting video. Also it is basically just an iPhone anyway so why not get one of those. Its tiny sensor cannot do low light etc. I got a zve1 as well. It feels solid and has the tactile knobs for changing aperture etc. it also turns it into a hobby with all the manual controls whereas the pocket is more of a full auto camera, again sapping the fun imo.
@@pbrunottephoto1646 Well just iso really. Shutter speed should be 2x the frames per second and aperture is fixed. In my opinion now after owning the pocket, for the similar price I would go with the zve10 instead.
I’m glad you made this. I’ve been debating getting a Pocket 3 for travel videos. I love the idea of gimbal-stabilized footage in such a small package, but the truth is I have too many cameras already. Good ones that can do more than I need them to. So I’ve been talking myself into and out of buying one, and I think that’s a good reason not to buy it. But the online love for this camera is crazy! Thanks for bringing some reality - or at least your version - back into the mix. ✌🏻
It takes a lot to get used to… it’s not the same as a GoPro (like I assumed), because a GoPro is built more like a miniature smartphone which I’m more familiar with handling. Thanks for watching and I appreciate your comment 🙌
I use a GoPro 10 as my camera for travel, with the media mod you can attach a Rode Wireless Go. I think it's perfect for vlogging (except for low light). It is also very intuitive. I think it would be a great travel camera for you to vlog with your A7CII as your photo camera. (I am just saying this as it's the set up I use and it is very easy). I just put the GoPro on the floor or a fence post to film myself. Nice one. Good luck.
Yeah, I have the GoPro Hero 8 and I felt more inclined to use that than this. It's like a miniature phone camera so the leap in terms of physical user experience is a lot less jarring. I'm also doubtful that DJI would let me use a third party microphone with this Osmo Pocket so that people could use the one that comes with the creator combo. I could be wrong 🤷♀ but thanks for sharing your experience with the GoPro 10 - I may consider upgrading the GoPro if I really want a portable hiking/vlogging daytime camera.
Have you tried any of the other modes on the Pocket 3? I use the motionlapse pretty regularly and it's so different than what I would normally capture. For your type of great storytelling, I think it would work really well. Also, if you don't already have them, a set of polarizer/ND filters will make a WORLD of difference in the quality of the footage. You can ditch the provided case and buy a cheap snap on cover that protects the gimbal and screen. Lastly, and this one is gonna sound weird, try using it as your wide angle stills camera. The images are 8MP, FF equiv. to ~ 20mm, and surprisingly good! It allows me to leave my wide angle lens at home and stick with just the 24-50 on my A7Cii. That story about meeting an old "friend" is hilarious. Of course it had to be him. 🤣🤣
I’ve used the AI face tracking feature and it’s really cool at first but watching too much of the footage feels so nauseating after a while. I have heard people rave about the ND filters but I hesitate to buy more accessories for this if I’m not super thrilled with it. The footage isn’t bad; it is the physical handling and different approach to composition that I can’t get used to. As I mentioned, I have my existing habits that can’t really be solved by accessories or another case. I wanted to like this very badly but it’s been a struggle
I definitely think this is a camera that's better for vlogging in urban cities. I can't imagine it being able to survive a tumble in a wooded area or falling and hitting the ground just because of the size and delicateness of the components. That being said, if "sunk cost" is something you would like to avoid, is there a vendor closer to you that would be able to rent out gear? For my job we use Lensrentals but I think an account has to be set up..
Yeah, I bought the creator kit and had the grip attachment. I did not find it any more comfortable. It was another thing to detach when turning it off to put away. As I mentioned, my workflow is: take video, turn it off quickly, shove it in my bag. This requires more care and time and patience, which I learned, I don't have 🤷🏻♀️ so my fault!
Yeah I’m not a super fan of the osmo pocket tbh, quality is pretty good but it sits between two scenarios for me. If I want to shoot professionally I’ll either use my fx3 & fx30, or on bigger doc shoots the cameras are all rented. And if it’s a I can’t be bothered with lugging gear around day it’s still not as quick or convenient as just using my phone and the Blackmagic camera app. Totally agree on selling stuff, a sea full of sharks! Not had that weirder experience selling apart from chancers, but I did leave my osmo pocket in a didi (Chinese uber) and after contacting the driver he claimed it wasn’t in the car, escalated it to the app service centre and a day later the driver “found it” he should really have erased the footage of him trying it out both the day it went missing and the day he “found it” though 😂
Honestly I hate using gimbals so much. Just feels like there's an extra layer between me and the camera maybe? I think coming from stills photography I'm used to composing really instinctually and quickly and gimbals take me out of that.
You've got the weirdest and funniest camera gear selling story 😄I just sell my stuff on ebay. I don't want to sell expensive gear in person to a stranger who could kill or rob me. I find often in life when I try to save money it costs me money. Like recently I bought a camera with 5hrs of use turns out even though the camera was under warranty it had strange issues and I spent 2 month 4x shipping it to get it to work right. In the end should have bought the camera new instead of trying to get a good deal.
I can definitely see that happening. Thankfully I've never had to experience that. I used to think lenses would be the safest thing to buy used, and 99% of the time, it is. But recently I tried a Tamron lens that had autofocus issues when used in video mode, but was not consistent when in photo mode. I wouldn't have known unless I tried it in person!
I do have this cam on my list of wants, it has had great reviews and I need something easy and lightweight with low light, and I walk Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge Tennessee, USA a lot, so it seems a good fit, but they should consider making the next version water resistance, that has been one of the cons most people have talked about
This is my first time hearing about Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge Tennessee! Just looked them up and they're gorgeous! But yes, water resistance would be wonderful, if it was technically feasible and still kept the price affordable. Thanks for watching!
"I'm the problem". hahahah I couldn't stop laughing at this moment, very funny. I own a Osmo Pocket 3 which I bought last year, and it's a very convenient camera when I can't carry my other mirrorless gear (but I don't use it professionally, just for minor stuff, although I like the quality of the footage). But I completely understand the reasons why you didn't like the experience. Thank you for your honest review. :)
funny story - ebay it is or submit to learning new muscle memory... No camera equipment stories but I've sold things on Craigslist that have made life interesting.
The Pocket 3 is marketed in the same niche as action cameras. It's misleading. I briefly owned the Pocket 3 swayed by the idea of bigger sensor and better lowlight (gimbal) than an action camera. But the reality is that it's a vlogging camera. While the footprint and setup is faster than a traditional ILC, you treat them the same way, gently. Action cameras, can be used as a vlogging camera, but they're much more useful as POV and b-roll shots.
The first step in recovery is admitting you are the problem lol I like mine better than I thought I would. It has the limitations you mentioned, but it also a lot of good things that I like.
I have kind of a phobia about selling things. I just hate doing it. This extends to returns. I've finally gotten to the point where I've returned some stuff to Amazon, but if I have to go into target and talk to someone, forget it. So KEH or it sits there.
Thanks... I didn't color grade any of it 😂 The talking head clips are filmed in Picture Profile 11 (S-Cinetone) and not in S-Log. The DJI video clips were using the standard picture profile (nothing was filmed in D-Log).
@@BadSloucher Well, then it's either the Sony ZV-E1 and the lighting or I need to make an optometrist appointment because it looks great. (Honestly, I probably need to put both on my list) LOL
@@brandonwatsonmedia Thank you, I appreciate that! Helps validate my purchase, heh, because I haven't prioritized learning how to color grade (it's not a necessity since I'm not aiming to make anything cinematic). I will entertain it some day!
You just did a vlog in a room.. Pocket 3 could have done that...Plenty of cases available to use to protect the camera when filming ..Camera is a tool for certain uses...Not for everyone, but many like to use it and have no problem...It is a video camera , that can take photos...It 's strength is video , for vlogging in a compact size .. ZV-E1 is completely different set up.
I bought the Pocket 3 for active footage capture because I already have the ZV-E1 to do stationery sit-down vlogs. Of course others have no problems with it because the use cases for the product match their expectations. I had different expectations and they weren't met - a pretty normal event that can happen when any product. Thanks for watching!
I'm glad you found a solution! I have the creator combo and tried to use it with the extension but even then that didn't get any better for me. To each their own!
I recently saw my ex-girl at the grocery store. I remember thinking wow she's doing great, but after our encounter I haven't seen her at the store again. I didn't know seeing an ex was so bad.
@@Bonsees yeah, if you’re not reaching for it all the time, it’s likely because it’s not appealing enough to use. Sell it before DJI comes out with a 4th version and makes this one even less valuable on the used market 🫠
I love your videos. They feel like having a conversation with a photographer friend. Real-world stories and lived experiences. I had to sell a camera and lens, talked to this guy, and we agreed to everything, price is great, and the equipment is in top condition. The guy shows up and starts to have a rant about the prices of cameras, and then he wants to change the deal and look at the camera and lens separately. TWO HOURS! the talked for two hours! I would have just left if I didn't need the money for the gear I ordered. After his rant, I told him I was done, make a decision. Luckily he took it. I don't sell stuff that much anymore.
Thank you Roy, I appreciate that. And yikes, 2 hours. Sometimes buyers/shoppers are lonely and sadly engage in transactions with the side benefit of having social interaction built in. You probably made his day if bought it!
@@BadSloucher Usually interaction with photographers are amazing, lovely people who love photography. But sometimes, just sometimes, you encounter a person that makes you feel uncomfortable. So I get how you were feeling. I probably made his day, one of those times I'm happy I didn't check.
Hey Justine...I hear you on the "scary" selling camera stuff ,THING. I have never tried to sell any gear on F-book market or like a Craig's list. I do NOT want to deal directly with MEETING the customer. Your story was worse meeting an X 😅..glad it worked out. I have been lucky I must have literally sold over 100 cameras or lenses on e-bay all with out issue EXCEPT...One MAJOR scare. As you know you can choose as seller "no returns" However if you get unlucky and get a jerk?...I SUPPOSE then they can use your gear, get buyer's remorse, BREAK or scratch it. Theni t is no longer in the condition you advertised it was, and you'd HAVE to refund. My only issue that really scared me I sold the original Leica Q. on E-Bay. Guess the buyer got BUYER'S remorse BEFORE he received the package. He told me he was gong to just REFUSE my $4,000 camera. I said you committed to buy it! Back and forth it went...I did not want him to OPEN the box or even touch my PRISTINE Q..as it looked a zillion percent brand new. I finally agreed OK send it back :( Anyway in the end I got lucky , he did return my NO RETURN, Leica Q , but box was unopened as I asked him to do Wheeew :)...I then sold it a few days later. i was so scared and WORRIED I might lose $4000 or get back a broken Leica Q. And yeah the 13% in fees is a major drag! lol, sorry for the NOVEL here...love your content!!
I have the creator’s combo and it still doesn’t feel natural to use 🤷🏻♀️ it’s the need to use a joystick and the gimbal concept combined that makes this different for me to use
@@BadSloucher yea after watching the full video I agree with what another commenter said about it being a personal issue (You problem) with how you tend to use your gear. Nothing wrong with any of it, it’s just a matter of how you use it..all gear will have some type of learning curve.
I'm glad I watched this video! I've had the Pocket 3 for a month now, and love the incredible video quality.....but the gimbal is driving me crazy. I like a camera that shoots where I point it, not have the lens follow me a few seconds behind where I am aiming - very cumbersome! I bought a Sony 4K camcorder, and am going to compare the video quality of both, then decide which one to keep.
The thing is, the whole point of the Osmo Pocket IS the gimbal 🤡 Of course we should have known before getting it, yada yada yada, but we can only know if it works for us until we get it in our hands and make whiny videos about it 😂
I love the pocket 3 and yes it is a learning curve….why don’t you gift it to someone who is wanting to start a UA-cam channel….just a suggestion. I know they are expensive tho!🩷
I once had to sell an expensive camera to a guy I arranged to meet in a shopping mall. Just to be safe, I brought a friend with me as backup. Well, apparently, the guy thought the same thing and brought his brother with him lol. It felt like a gangster scene from a movie because we were sweating over the camera/money so much and both had "bodyguards" just standing there awkwardly XD
I love this 😂😂😂
Have you tried using the extension thing? That comes in the creator kit? Much easier to hold that way. I can’t imagine that you’d have a problem selling it as they are very hard to get right now. I’ve been on waitlist as it’s backordered for the last four months straight. I’m shocked you are having a hard time selling it! I also sincerely hope that you keep trying it and learning it and make more videos with it like this because it’s refreshing to see someone speaking about the negative elements of the camera versus just glorifying it.
(I’m a professional photographer so I’m buying and selling 24/7, it’s kind of a problem, lol. To be fair I live in Los Angeles so when I put something up it sells in 8 hours. Literally. Lol).
PS: Great storytelling! Keep the pocket and make more videos with it! Please!
I have the creator kit, yes, but the extension doesn’t make it any more comfortable to hold. I might just need more time with it. Thanks for your thoughts!
As a hobbyist, I'm so rubbish with "real gimbals" I mostly use them on a tripod/fluid head. My OP3 likes: it goes on more mobile supports (video monopod, fake jib/pole with a case/roll cage and phone as monitor), it turns vertical for Insta, etc., which Villanelle says is pathetic, and one gets gently coerced into learning about focus movement, subject tracking and how to grade 10-bit.
I, too, liked that it went on more supports. It was either this or the GoPro Hero 12 (which came out with a regular/standard tripod mount in addition to their GoPro flip-down flaps), but I already had a GoPro, so I thought I would try something new.
I actually just sold my zve1 two days ago on eBay (with a $100 lens and cage) for $1800, which I had for a year and a half, so for me that feels like a $400 rental fee for 18 months... Granted they take a 13% fee; it's still worth it so I don't have to deal with people. As an introvert and camera-junky that's a win, win.
I say all this because I was planning on picking up the pocket3 to replace the zve1 as my b-cam... And you've made me rethink that idea altogether, so well-timed video. Thank you!
Also, I dig your style of videos in general. It's a clever format or spin on the typical review formula. I see you blowing up quickly, so keep these coming!
I too view post-sale “losses” as a “rental” fee to make myself feel better about the whole thing
LOL. My new motto: "post-sale 'losses' are really 'rental' fees". I feel much better now although I just realized how much I have rented.
@@RodneyGracia ha ha! Same...
Glad you're real about the pocket 3. If you're used to gimbal work, walking like a ninja, and don't tilt cameras up and down and pan side to side much and are okay with fragile equipment, ya, the pocket 3 is good.
I just sold my 3 y/o A7 IV on FB and went pretty well. but there were about 20 offers to swap the sony for e-bikes, drones, etc.
I have the exact same sentiment / problem with my osmo. I cant bring myself to want to use it. Its weird, thought I was the only one. Do i sell or keep it? Id rather have a zve1 or s9. Lets also not talk about the small lense filters that are cumbersome. I think id prefer the shape of the action 4 with a 1" sensor much more - but not sure they will release the 5 with one or not.
Oh yeah! I didn't even get into the small lens filters because that was going to be a whole other thing. I, too, prefer the shape of action cams like the Action 4 or GoPros even. But yeah, the sensor size is what would convince me to actually get one.
It’s great to hear about your experience with the Osmo! We’ve been using it for a few months now too, and it’s been perfect for the kind of content we create. We’re still a bit hesitant about filming in public, so the Osmo’s small size is a huge plus, especially when we’re shooting in places like restaurants. Despite how delicate it might seem, it’s actually pretty durable. We’ve accidentally left the case behind a few times, but the Osmo and Gimbal are still in perfect shape. Of course, our content is a bit different (we’re not quite as wet! 😂), and yours definitely has a stronger focus on aesthetics 😉. I (Sandro) have only ever shot videos with my phone and the Osmo, which probably has helped me build that muscle memory you mentioned a lot faster. And if you ever want to send that Osmo over to Switzerland, we’d be happy to take it off your hands! 😉 Great video and looking forward to the next one, doesn't matter which camera you use. Cheers
Thank you so much Sandro! I’m so happy to hear it works for you 🙂 as for Switzerland, I’m working on it 😝
I don't own a Pocket 3 but I chose not to buy one for the fragility problem you mentioned in your video. I've heard from numerous sources that gimbals can be very problematic to operate. I also agree that Craigslist sucks for selling camera gear. I recommend a pawn shop. If you can find a good one, the owners will be very professional and it can be a very comfortable experience to sell used gear there. Although you may not get as much money as you would on Craigslist. It all depends on what you're selling.
Yeah, the fragility of the gimbal is like a newborn's head or bowling bowl on a toothpick. Good call on the pawn shop!
What lens did you use with the Sony A7CII?? Looks amazing!
20-70mm f4 G
Hey, I just saw your video, and it's so accurate! I really like the OP3, but even though I take good care of my gear, for my outdoor adventures, it's very risky to bring this camera with me. it's like holding an egg on a spoon...I really like this camera but it's some kind of very frustrating at the same time. No weather-sealed, gimball is very delicate, If the camera falls from a short height onto the side of the screen while it's in landscape mode : game over. I already broke it, this camera increase my cortisol each tilme I use it lol I'm gonna probably sell it before I destroy it and get 0 money back ... very cool channel btw, keep posting !
I'm glad you do! Really. And yes, dropping it while it's in landscape mode is my biggest fear. I know screen damage can happen to any camera when you drop it, but for some reason this one can get away easier from my little fingers haha
I feel your pain with the Osmo pocket 3 but it handles much better for me when I the threaded attachment and I screw in small tripod so I have abou 7-9 additional inches that I can quickly remove and throw the whole setup in my pocket or in a sling bag. You already know in low light nothing beats the Sony ZV-E1, normally I have the 20mm 1.8 on it . I view the Pocket 3 as second camera to have , if you like getting BTS it may work great for that with its active track and the DJI Mimo app.
I have the creator combo and tried to use it with the extension but even then that didn't get any better for me. To each their own!
I have tried for so many years to like Sony cameras. I've used, sold or returned an A6000, A6300, A6700 and an A7iii but still to this day can't stand the ergonomics, the screens, or the menu and interface and the "feel". First date awkwardness. Nikon's are my happy place and Canon's I can use to get a job done. It's that feeling when you first pick the camera up and you just know that you're going to "friends" for a long time.
That’s a great way of putting it. I definitely feel this camera is like that person you try to get to know but no matter what, you just can’t get along!
you're funny and I like your editing, coloring, and clean non-salesy description section. got any single friends? haha
The Osmo 3 is a very specific tool just like all other cameras. If it doesn’t fit a specific need don’t use it. Great part about our camera world is reselling our cameras is pretty easy. Cheers.
I also don’t like to sell used things to the others. My problem is that I tried to make the most use of it. But also I like to taste all the new products. So I kept many things (old but still operational).
I have been using all three iterations 🙂I treat them as a "supporting cameras". When you are in the car and want to capture stabilised footage or for group handling. I like passing the camera down a table at a party and whoever is interested can record his/her message. I've got to agree with you, the gimbal can be hard to learn and to use. Sometimes, it has a life of its own, not focusing on where you intend it to go. I do find that the iPhone 15 PM records better video quality (at least for me, in Apple Log) but none of these two can rival the A7IV.
Passing it down a table at a party sounds like such a nice idea for memories to review later 😊 but yes, that’s exactly what I experienced -it has a life of its own!!
@@BadSloucher when people are in the moment, they have a lot of to say and meaningful too. Instead of 'interviews' after the party. And you can see genuine emotions/surprises
Totally agree I got the first gen pocket when it released but it always felt like I was holding some fragile bird. You spend too much mental worry with that thing it’s just not comfortable for me either. It always has to go in the case, and when you boot it, you have to center it etc. just too many little annoyances completely saps the fun of shooting video. Also it is basically just an iPhone anyway so why not get one of those. Its tiny sensor cannot do low light etc. I got a zve1 as well. It feels solid and has the tactile knobs for changing aperture etc. it also turns it into a hobby with all the manual controls whereas the pocket is more of a full auto camera, again sapping the fun imo.
“Fragile bird” is exactly how I would describe it too!!
Pocket has full manual in pro mode.
@@pbrunottephoto1646 Well just iso really. Shutter speed should be 2x the frames per second and aperture is fixed. In my opinion now after owning the pocket, for the similar price I would go with the zve10 instead.
I’m glad you made this. I’ve been debating getting a Pocket 3 for travel videos. I love the idea of gimbal-stabilized footage in such a small package, but the truth is I have too many cameras already. Good ones that can do more than I need them to. So I’ve been talking myself into and out of buying one, and I think that’s a good reason not to buy it. But the online love for this camera is crazy! Thanks for bringing some reality - or at least your version - back into the mix. ✌🏻
It takes a lot to get used to… it’s not the same as a GoPro (like I assumed), because a GoPro is built more like a miniature smartphone which I’m more familiar with handling. Thanks for watching and I appreciate your comment 🙌
I use a GoPro 10 as my camera for travel, with the media mod you can attach a Rode Wireless Go. I think it's perfect for vlogging (except for low light). It is also very intuitive. I think it would be a great travel camera for you to vlog with your A7CII as your photo camera. (I am just saying this as it's the set up I use and it is very easy). I just put the GoPro on the floor or a fence post to film myself. Nice one. Good luck.
Yeah, I have the GoPro Hero 8 and I felt more inclined to use that than this. It's like a miniature phone camera so the leap in terms of physical user experience is a lot less jarring. I'm also doubtful that DJI would let me use a third party microphone with this Osmo Pocket so that people could use the one that comes with the creator combo. I could be wrong 🤷♀ but thanks for sharing your experience with the GoPro 10 - I may consider upgrading the GoPro if I really want a portable hiking/vlogging daytime camera.
Have you tried any of the other modes on the Pocket 3? I use the motionlapse pretty regularly and it's so different than what I would normally capture. For your type of great storytelling, I think it would work really well. Also, if you don't already have them, a set of polarizer/ND filters will make a WORLD of difference in the quality of the footage. You can ditch the provided case and buy a cheap snap on cover that protects the gimbal and screen. Lastly, and this one is gonna sound weird, try using it as your wide angle stills camera. The images are 8MP, FF equiv. to ~ 20mm, and surprisingly good! It allows me to leave my wide angle lens at home and stick with just the 24-50 on my A7Cii.
That story about meeting an old "friend" is hilarious. Of course it had to be him. 🤣🤣
I’ve used the AI face tracking feature and it’s really cool at first but watching too much of the footage feels so nauseating after a while. I have heard people rave about the ND filters but I hesitate to buy more accessories for this if I’m not super thrilled with it. The footage isn’t bad; it is the physical handling and different approach to composition that I can’t get used to. As I mentioned, I have my existing habits that can’t really be solved by accessories or another case. I wanted to like this very badly but it’s been a struggle
I definitely think this is a camera that's better for vlogging in urban cities. I can't imagine it being able to survive a tumble in a wooded area or falling and hitting the ground just because of the size and delicateness of the components. That being said, if "sunk cost" is something you would like to avoid, is there a vendor closer to you that would be able to rent out gear? For my job we use Lensrentals but I think an account has to be set up..
I have to look into that but thank you!
has a hand strap.
It had a grip that you can attach for more comfort
Yeah, I bought the creator kit and had the grip attachment. I did not find it any more comfortable. It was another thing to detach when turning it off to put away. As I mentioned, my workflow is: take video, turn it off quickly, shove it in my bag. This requires more care and time and patience, which I learned, I don't have 🤷🏻♀️ so my fault!
Yeah I’m not a super fan of the osmo pocket tbh, quality is pretty good but it sits between two scenarios for me. If I want to shoot professionally I’ll either use my fx3 & fx30, or on bigger doc shoots the cameras are all rented. And if it’s a I can’t be bothered with lugging gear around day it’s still not as quick or convenient as just using my phone and the Blackmagic camera app.
Totally agree on selling stuff, a sea full of sharks!
Not had that weirder experience selling apart from chancers, but I did leave my osmo pocket in a didi (Chinese uber) and after contacting the driver he claimed it wasn’t in the car, escalated it to the app service centre and a day later the driver “found it” he should really have erased the footage of him trying it out both the day it went missing and the day he “found it” though 😂
heh, either an ignorant didi driver or the UI is so bad he couldn’t find the delete function!
Honestly I hate using gimbals so much. Just feels like there's an extra layer between me and the camera maybe? I think coming from stills photography I'm used to composing really instinctually and quickly and gimbals take me out of that.
Right??!? You hit the nail on the head about how there’s an extra layer. I need to take full control 👺
You've got the weirdest and funniest camera gear selling story 😄I just sell my stuff on ebay. I don't want to sell expensive gear in person to a stranger who could kill or rob me. I find often in life when I try to save money it costs me money. Like recently I bought a camera with 5hrs of use turns out even though the camera was under warranty it had strange issues and I spent 2 month 4x shipping it to get it to work right. In the end should have bought the camera new instead of trying to get a good deal.
I can definitely see that happening. Thankfully I've never had to experience that. I used to think lenses would be the safest thing to buy used, and 99% of the time, it is. But recently I tried a Tamron lens that had autofocus issues when used in video mode, but was not consistent when in photo mode. I wouldn't have known unless I tried it in person!
Great story about your ex, and thanks for the Osmo P3 review..I'm still in the fence but kind of falling off towards it.
"falling off towards it" - meaning, you are falling towards it or falling away from it?
I do have this cam on my list of wants, it has had great reviews and I need something easy and lightweight with low light, and I walk Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge Tennessee, USA a lot, so it seems a good fit, but they should consider making the next version water resistance, that has been one of the cons most people have talked about
This is my first time hearing about Gatlinburg and Pigeon Forge Tennessee! Just looked them up and they're gorgeous! But yes, water resistance would be wonderful, if it was technically feasible and still kept the price affordable. Thanks for watching!
"I'm the problem". hahahah I couldn't stop laughing at this moment, very funny. I own a Osmo Pocket 3 which I bought last year, and it's a very convenient camera when I can't carry my other mirrorless gear (but I don't use it professionally, just for minor stuff, although I like the quality of the footage). But I completely understand the reasons why you didn't like the experience. Thank you for your honest review. :)
Self blame is an easy way to get ahead of anyone accusing me of not giving it a fair chance 🙃
funny story - ebay it is or submit to learning new muscle memory... No camera equipment stories but I've sold things on Craigslist that have made life interesting.
The Pocket 3 is marketed in the same niche as action cameras. It's misleading. I briefly owned the Pocket 3 swayed by the idea of bigger sensor and better lowlight (gimbal) than an action camera. But the reality is that it's a vlogging camera. While the footprint and setup is faster than a traditional ILC, you treat them the same way, gently. Action cameras, can be used as a vlogging camera, but they're much more useful as POV and b-roll shots.
yep, it's just not for me
The first step in recovery is admitting you are the problem lol I like mine better than I thought I would. It has the limitations you mentioned, but it also a lot of good things that I like.
I’m glad you are enjoying yours! It’s not for me and I want to help people minimize their buyer’s remorse by blaming themselves 😃
I have kind of a phobia about selling things. I just hate doing it. This extends to returns. I've finally gotten to the point where I've returned some stuff to Amazon, but if I have to go into target and talk to someone, forget it. So KEH or it sits there.
Your color grading is just fantastic.
Thanks... I didn't color grade any of it 😂 The talking head clips are filmed in Picture Profile 11 (S-Cinetone) and not in S-Log. The DJI video clips were using the standard picture profile (nothing was filmed in D-Log).
@@BadSloucher Well, then it's either the Sony ZV-E1 and the lighting or I need to make an optometrist appointment because it looks great. (Honestly, I probably need to put both on my list) LOL
@@brandonwatsonmedia Thank you, I appreciate that! Helps validate my purchase, heh, because I haven't prioritized learning how to color grade (it's not a necessity since I'm not aiming to make anything cinematic). I will entertain it some day!
You just did a vlog in a room.. Pocket 3 could have done that...Plenty of cases available to use to protect the camera when filming ..Camera is a tool for certain uses...Not for everyone, but many like to use it and have no problem...It is a video camera , that can take photos...It 's strength is video , for vlogging in a compact size .. ZV-E1 is completely different set up.
I bought the Pocket 3 for active footage capture because I already have the ZV-E1 to do stationery sit-down vlogs. Of course others have no problems with it because the use cases for the product match their expectations. I had different expectations and they weren't met - a pretty normal event that can happen when any product. Thanks for watching!
I bought a cinema camera at FB marketplace and s the seller was so nice and helpful 😊
That's really good to hear! That's how I hope most interactions are for people.
the intro 😂 I love this
I found the pocket 3 extremely easy to use with a handle on it even easier
I'm glad you found a solution! I have the creator combo and tried to use it with the extension but even then that didn't get any better for me. To each their own!
I recently saw my ex-girl at the grocery store. I remember thinking wow she's doing great, but after our encounter I haven't seen her at the store again. I didn't know seeing an ex was so bad.
Depending on how a relationship ended, in most cases you do not want see them again
I have one and I haven’t really used it… maybe I should just let go of it too 😅
@@Bonsees yeah, if you’re not reaching for it all the time, it’s likely because it’s not appealing enough to use. Sell it before DJI comes out with a 4th version and makes this one even less valuable on the used market 🫠
I love your videos. They feel like having a conversation with a photographer friend. Real-world stories and lived experiences.
I had to sell a camera and lens, talked to this guy, and we agreed to everything, price is great, and the equipment is in top condition. The guy shows up and starts to have a rant about the prices of cameras, and then he wants to change the deal and look at the camera and lens separately. TWO HOURS! the talked for two hours! I would have just left if I didn't need the money for the gear I ordered. After his rant, I told him I was done, make a decision. Luckily he took it. I don't sell stuff that much anymore.
Thank you Roy, I appreciate that. And yikes, 2 hours. Sometimes buyers/shoppers are lonely and sadly engage in transactions with the side benefit of having social interaction built in. You probably made his day if bought it!
@@BadSloucher Usually interaction with photographers are amazing, lovely people who love photography. But sometimes, just sometimes, you encounter a person that makes you feel uncomfortable. So I get how you were feeling. I probably made his day, one of those times I'm happy I didn't check.
Part of me likes my Pocket 3, part of me hates it 😅 it's weirdly amazing and frustrating at the same time
Since I'm going to have trouble selling it, I'll give it a few more chances to experience the weirdly amazing aspects of it
Geezus... that ended way differently than expected.😨
Just got the pocket 3 today from Henrys, wish I had seen your video earlier!!
If you can still return it after opening, give it a chance while you have it. Experience it for yourself; you might enjoy it!
don't listen to her, you won't regret it
@@PattayaReality-ms5hv yeah don’t listen to me!!
Hey Justine...I hear you on the "scary" selling camera stuff ,THING. I have never tried to sell any gear on F-book market or like a Craig's list. I do NOT want to deal directly with MEETING the customer. Your story was worse meeting an X 😅..glad it worked out. I have been lucky I must have literally sold over 100 cameras or lenses on e-bay all with out issue EXCEPT...One MAJOR scare. As you know you can choose as seller "no returns" However if you get unlucky and get a jerk?...I SUPPOSE then they can use your gear, get buyer's remorse, BREAK or scratch it. Theni t is no longer in the condition you advertised it was, and you'd HAVE to refund. My only issue that really scared me I sold the original Leica Q. on E-Bay. Guess the buyer got BUYER'S remorse BEFORE he received the package. He told me he was gong to just REFUSE my $4,000 camera. I said you committed to buy it! Back and forth it went...I did not want him to OPEN the box or even touch my PRISTINE Q..as it looked a zillion percent brand new. I finally agreed OK send it back :( Anyway in the end I got lucky , he did return my NO RETURN, Leica Q , but box was unopened as I asked him to do Wheeew :)...I then sold it a few days later. i was so scared and WORRIED I might lose $4000 or get back a broken Leica Q. And yeah the 13% in fees is a major drag! lol, sorry for the NOVEL here...love your content!!
Glad you got it back in one piece! That’s stressful
👍! Thx Justine....
Oooh I'm interested if it's still for sale! :)
This is some great Real real world testing!
Should really get the creators combo or just a small tripod that's made by DJI if you think its uncomfortable to hold.
I have the creator’s combo and it still doesn’t feel natural to use 🤷🏻♀️ it’s the need to use a joystick and the gimbal concept combined that makes this different for me to use
That story was so funny! It's strange how life happens that way
That cut to keep it PG, expert.
i loved this video and your sense of humor.. if you were in los angeles I would buy it from you. tooo funny. I can't imagine meeting an EX.. no thanks
Lol, great storytime 😁
Here to entertain 🙇🏻♀️ hope you’re doing well, Glenn 💛💛💛
@@BadSloucher thanks for asking. Doing fine. 👍🏻
That text trail 😂😢😅
Pretty lady has some really good points
You want an insta 360 end of story
not really
@@BadSloucher yea after watching the full video I agree with what another commenter said about it being a personal issue (You problem) with how you tend to use your gear. Nothing wrong with any of it, it’s just a matter of how you use it..all gear will have some type of learning curve.
Also, I have a Bronica SQ to sell and...
I’ll buy it if you want
I want To buy I live in NY , Queens
as the prophecy foretold 🚂
Nice gg
I'm glad I watched this video! I've had the Pocket 3 for a month now, and love the incredible video quality.....but the gimbal is driving me crazy. I like a camera that shoots where I point it, not have the lens follow me a few seconds behind where I am aiming - very cumbersome! I bought a Sony 4K camcorder, and am going to compare the video quality of both, then decide which one to keep.
The thing is, the whole point of the Osmo Pocket IS the gimbal 🤡 Of course we should have known before getting it, yada yada yada, but we can only know if it works for us until we get it in our hands and make whiny videos about it 😂
Ого что тут скажешь интересно
Lol cool story😅
I don’t like the amount of Z axis on the Pocket 3. My Action 4 does much better.
Keep and regret 😮
nott a dry persson
WW
What a disgusting camera
I wholeheartedly agree
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I like your eyes.
your super cute..
Justine. yo. awesome ! see you soon~🤚
I love the pocket 3 and yes it is a learning curve….why don’t you gift it to someone who is wanting to start a UA-cam channel….just a suggestion. I know they are expensive tho!🩷
That’s a great idea, thank you for suggesting that 🙂 I’ll consider it!