An SDA Named “Destroying False Christianity” Shows Up. Then THIS Happens!

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  • Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
  • Avery from ‪@GodLogicApologetics‬ invited myself and a Seventh-Day Adventist onto his program to have a discussion on Adventism. The SDA gentleman had been on prior, full of emotion and energy when he was discussing with someone less versed in SDA theology.
    Let's see if Mr. Destroying False Christianity (aka true Christianity) brings that same energy this go around.
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    CHAPTERS:
    0:00 - Introduction to Discussion
    1:34 - Jesus' Resurrection Doubts Explored
    5:38 - Purpose of Existence Questioned
    6:37 - Defining Personal Mission Statements
    8:48 - Analyzing Controversial Religious Quotes
    12:48 - Who is Ellen White? An Overview
    19:57 - Debunking Richie's Claims on Ellen White
    21:35 - Summarizing Richie's Stance on Inspiration
    23:38 - Debate on Ellen White's Divine Inspiration
    27:54 - Richie's Comprehensive Final Thoughts
    29:50 - Exploring Myles's Religious Beliefs
    32:10 - Ellen White's Teachings Revisited
    37:18 - Salvation Outside Seventh-Day Adventism
    40:14 - Richie's Public Apology
    41:50 - Concluding Words from Richie
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    The Gospel of Jesus Christ:
    Man has broken God’s Law (Romans 3:23; 1 John 1:8) and our sin has separated us from our Maker (Isaiah 59:2). In His grace, God entered into His own creation in the person of Jesus Christ (John 1:1-14; Col. 1:19), born of a virgin (Matt. 1:23), and lived a perfect and sinless life, fulfilling all the Law’s demands (2 Cor. 5:21; Matt. 5:17), on a mission by God the Father to save sinners from condemnation (John 3:16-18, 6:37-40). He paid the penalty for sin which is death (Romans 6:23) and bore the sins of His people in His body on a cross (1 Peter 2:24), making propitiation by His blood (Romans 3:25). He died, was buried, and resurrected in the same body He died in on the third day for our justification (1 Cor. 15, Romans 4:25; Luke 24:39). By a living faith (James 2:18) in the Person and Work of Jesus (Romans 10:9-10), God graciously declares a person righteous (Romans 4:5), they are reconciled to their Creator (Romans 5:10-11), sealed with the Holy Spirit (Eph. 1:13), and have peace with God (Romans 5:1). They are born again of the Spirit (1 John 5:1, Titus 3:5), adopted into His family (Eph. 4:5-7), and are granted eternal resurrection life in Jesus Christ (1 John 5:11), set free to do good works that please Him (Eph. 2:10; 1 John 2:3-4). Jesus will physically return one day to judge the living and the dead (1 Peter 4:5; Acts 24:15; John 5:24-5) but His people will be spared from the wrath to come (1 Thess. 1:10) to dwell in union with God forever (Rev. 21:3).
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  • @julienjeanmuller
    @julienjeanmuller Рік тому +7

    Bruhhhh... 🤦🏾 The Quote My friend began was neither a confirmation of faith nor a biblical doctrine. It was just a Dramatization of the crucifixion story. Matter of fact, My friend's question here Begin with the assumption that EGW's writings contains equal authority to the Bible, asking Richie do you believe that? Like seriously 😂. Richie just needed to say no, move on. Plus this issue goes to a bigger debate that has rocked the Christian world for centuries on the Nature of Christ, there are two school of thoughts that stemmed from it. It was in the Council of Nicea that the bishops came and agreed to settle on one of the views about the Nature of Christ.
    Smh...

    • @answeringadventism
      @answeringadventism  Рік тому +20

      “Just a dramatization”
      Uhh, no. You are confused.
      “How many have read carefully Patriarchs and Prophets, Great Controversy, and Desire of Ages? I wish all to understand that my confidence in the light that God has given stands firm, because I know that the Holy Spirit’s power magnified the truth and made it honorable, saying, “This is the way; walk ye in it.” [Isaiah 30:21.] In my books, the truth is stated, barricaded by a “Thus saith the Lord.” The Holy Spirit traced these truths upon my heart and mind as indelibly as the law was traced by the finger of God upon the tables of stone, which are now in the ark, to be brought forth in that great day when sentence will be pronounced against every evil, seducing science produced by the father of lies.”-Letters & Manuscripts, Vol. 21 (1906), Letter 90; Selected Messages, Book 3, pg. 122 (3SM 122.2)
      She claims desire of ages is from God himself and the words contained within are “barricaded by a thus saith the Lord”.

    • @julienjeanmuller
      @julienjeanmuller Рік тому +2

      @@answeringadventism DANM, thanks for responding bro. I thought my comment would've been ignored. And thanks for that quote. We overestimates what "Inspiration" means. For example I'm sure you've heard plenty of sermons, they are all inspired, and the truths being proclaimed are believed to be given by God correct? But yet both you and I know that there's still a possibility for human error. Like when she said "Satan wrung the heart of Jesus, etc...." How could she possibly have seen that? I'm not discrediting that she was shown these things in vision. But even in vision one cannot for certain interpret what's in a person's heart. The quote you just shared with me I believe is speaking about the Overarching message in her writings, not nitty gritty details. Even in the Bible there are things that can make you raise your eyebrows!? Nevertheless we believe it is the inspired word of God. What I was hoping you to get at were the other extreme allegations you mentioned at the close of the video of people going to hell for not keeping Sabbath etc...

    • @sean6741
      @sean6741 Рік тому +2

      ​@@answeringadventism im going to make a channel responding to former Adventist who...need help. 😅 Dont worry we all do👍🏼

    • @nonconformist4802
      @nonconformist4802 Рік тому

      @@sean6741 I guess its more the SDA cult followers who are in need of help, and not them that have decided to left this satanic church once and for all.

    • @rickhuntling7338
      @rickhuntling7338 Рік тому +3

      @@samuelwilliams1559 EGW said "the man CHRIST JESUS was not the LORD GOD Almighty" letter 32, 1889, quoted in Advantist Bible Commentary; vol. 5, p.1129, but Col. 2:8,9 says "for in HIM dwelleth all the FULLNESS of the Godhead bodily".
      you say "SDA do not teach the bible is equal in authority with the Bible" I agree that "SDA do not teach the Bible". In your 28 articles you vow to accept her writing and visions are inspired and authoritative with almost an exact copy of 2nd Tim. 3:16 stating her writings are as profitable the scriptures.

  • @bjqb1108
    @bjqb1108 Рік тому +45

    Observation: Miles, you did not cut him off and he refuses to answer your question…keeps changing the subject on you…but you know that. You are an absolute long-suffering gentleman!

    • @calvindonaldson9879
      @calvindonaldson9879 Рік тому

      In a nutshell he met his match and got destroyed. It was like he was trying to attack somebody with a knife and then his intended victim dispossessed him . After he does that he cries for mercy when it's turned against him.

  • @TotoPaulino
    @TotoPaulino Рік тому +35

    Miles, your explanation is clear. I'm learning more about SDA from you than ftom SDAs. Thank you. God bless.

  • @truthingrace3594
    @truthingrace3594 Рік тому +17

    "Sda shuffle" is dead on accurate! Most accurate description yet. I notice all cults defend themselves this way.

  • @kevinbooth6293
    @kevinbooth6293 Рік тому +35

    That was exhausting! He really has no idea what he believes but has a channel about destroying false Christianity

    • @ReverendThunder
      @ReverendThunder Рік тому +11

      He's obfuscating, prevaricating, deceptive, and clueless bro.

    • @ReverendThunder
      @ReverendThunder Рік тому

      @@rayray4192 indeed bro

    • @ReverendThunder
      @ReverendThunder Рік тому +1

      @@rayray4192 we're well bro. Thanks for always being so gracious and caring.
      My wife's name is Kahmal, son Kah-El, and daughter Kah-Liyah. 🤗 We live closer to the second city, Montego Bay, than Kingston. I know the feeling of being around water. It's wonderful. Glad you had a great time.

    • @revelation1215
      @revelation1215 11 місяців тому +1

      Always assume that those who deceive are actually trying to do the opposite of what they claim, in this case, destroying TRUE Christianity. Satan is the father of lies and so are his minions.

  • @ReverendThunder
    @ReverendThunder Рік тому +37

    This is comedy gold bro. I love to watch these SDAs squirm. 😂

    • @hastingschijikwa2023
      @hastingschijikwa2023 Рік тому +3

      It was comedy indeed

    • @ReverendThunder
      @ReverendThunder Рік тому +7

      @@hastingschijikwa2023 yes, and it's always from those types that are most arrogant at first.

    • @sebastianmutua6790
      @sebastianmutua6790 Місяць тому

      A crying baby😂😂😂

    • @kln4863
      @kln4863 29 днів тому

      So do you enjoy mocking other beliefs?
      Do you actually think it's funny to mock other people's beliefs?
      What do you think Jesus would say to this kind of speaking?
      Do you think that Jesus would be accepting this kind of attitude where you're making fun of other religions?

    • @ReverendThunder
      @ReverendThunder 29 днів тому +3

      @@kln4863 perhaps you should read how Elijah dealt with the prophets of Baal on Mount Carmel in 1 Kings.

  • @claire9702
    @claire9702 11 місяців тому +8

    This poor man is like we were. Parroting the same old Adventist crap we used ‘we are totally 100% Bible based, EGW just teaches the Bible’ blah blah blah.
    That’s what we were taught to believe. He wasn’t familiar with the passages you read out because he hasn’t read it for himself but this stuff is just taught to us, from birth we are told all the little EGW additions to the Bible stories and we just think that’s what the Bible says, and when reading the Bible for ourselves there is something contrary to what we’ve been taught to believe it means, we somehow just gloss over it. He’s incredibly deceived.

  • @chrislucastheprotestantview
    @chrislucastheprotestantview Рік тому +24

    The hopscotch at the beginning tells you it was a great question. I've learned recently that when you're dealing with false teachers and they start hopping around all these different Bible verses and they can't deal with the text in front of them straight, that they got a bad argument

    • @dustins382
      @dustins382 Рік тому +5

      It was almost comical.
      "Did Satan make Jesus doubt?"
      "Hey let's talk about the Catholic Church"
      😂😂

    • @chrislucastheprotestantview
      @chrislucastheprotestantview Рік тому +3

      @@dustins382 lol! Yes! Thank you, yes that part was great

    • @davidblowe9096
      @davidblowe9096 Рік тому

      It’s how they work, they work on the theory that you can’t shoot a moving target, they change the subject as soon as they are challenged and they talk talk talk not allowing the other party to speak.
      It’s beyond their comprehension that former SDA’s are “former” because we read and studied The Bible in and of itself.

  • @matthewtoves8919
    @matthewtoves8919 Рік тому +9

    That was brutal but necessary. Well done Myles.

  • @jimijames7703
    @jimijames7703 Рік тому +10

    “I have always been a Christian since I was born” means he has no understanding of what it means to be Born AGAIN!!!!

    • @Jaco3688
      @Jaco3688 8 днів тому

      That very thought raced thru my mind as well

  • @Antonia-pi8qg
    @Antonia-pi8qg Рік тому +10

    I have heard so many times from many SDA they don’t quote EGW but they’re part of the church that doctrines are fundamentally EGW writings and that they do put her above the scriptures

    • @markrobby7136
      @markrobby7136 5 місяців тому +1

      Hypocrites, right!

    • @kln4863
      @kln4863 Місяць тому

      I am fairly new at being a 7th day Adventist and what I know about the church right now is that they very rarely bring out Ellen G Whites writings and they're always going into the Bible and very rarely will bring out a quote of Ellen G White. From what I understand about Ellen G White is that she is always wanting The reader to go to the Bible and not her writings. Ellen g white is always having you go to the Bible to the Bible to the Bible. She is telling people, do not glorify me, but glorified Christ as Lord and savior.
      And the reason I don't go to a Sunday church. Anymore is because the 10 commandments in the Bible and it has nothing To Do with Ellen G white is that the fourth commandment specifies for the Christian to. Remember the sabbath to keep that day holy the 7th day the last day of the week which is Saturday to honor God on that day. And that means that you do not go to the mall and shop and enjoy spending money or working and making money and encouraging others to work on that day. When they should be focusing on God who is the one who created the heavens in the Earth. And the sabbath rest day was made for man that means all of humanity. That means the gentiles and the Jews. Nfu try to say that the sabbath was done away with at the cross because Jesus died on the cross that has nothing To Do with the weekly sabbath. The handwriting of ordinances talks about the sacrificial sabbath laws which happened yearly. But the weekly sabbath was never done a way with at the cross and it's still meant to be kept to this day. Jesus is the Lord of the sabbath but he is not thus sabbath.
      He is Lord of the sabbath. And the 10 commandments are about the first 4 commandments are To Do with loving God and honoring him and the last 6 commandments is to how you're. Supposed to be treating other humans.

  • @qanaqa33174
    @qanaqa33174 Рік тому +32

    " I think she's inspired"
    Yeah by the "Devil"

    • @waynecharles5331
      @waynecharles5331 Рік тому +7

      we can plainly see that Sdas are bewitched and it's only by the power of the holy spirit will they be delivered so let's continue to prayer earnestly for their deliverance....

    • @Liz.StudentoftheKing
      @Liz.StudentoftheKing Рік тому

      👏

    • @Derriann9705
      @Derriann9705 Рік тому +6

      This is literally what I said out loud when I hear him say she’s “inspired” lol

    • @Jaco3688
      @Jaco3688 8 днів тому +1

      “Inspired” is necessarily equivalent to infallible. That’s a problem, if you’re SDA

  • @catherine9808
    @catherine9808 Рік тому +29

    Brilliant miles well done . The sda guy completely avoided the real issue and went into playing victim . It was obvious he was shaken upon hearing the words from the desire of ages hopefully it will wake him up

    • @EugeneGoremykin
      @EugeneGoremykin Рік тому

      as former adventist I would say that I don't believe he will think about it and make a research - he probably will be having no more discussions with Myles. Or even he would found some new arguments it wouldn't help. He will be ignorantly defend church beliefs until he believe them. SDA uses cultish practices to indoctrinate people so even facing straight truth they will not accept that they are defeated. That's the matter of faith not logic.

    • @matthewtoves8919
      @matthewtoves8919 Рік тому +1

      @@samuelwilliams1559 'Not one of us will ever receive the seal of God while our characters have one spot or stain upon them. It is left with us to remedy the defects in our characters, to cleanse the soul-temple of every defilement. Then the latter rain will fall upon us as the early rain fell upon the disciples on the day of Pentecost. CET 189.2'
      So much for not being saved by works...😂
      Again. YOU dont agree with the prophet who is your normative interpreter of scripture whos writings your church holds as inspired.
      Repent and turn to the Lord.

    • @chriskihangire9271
      @chriskihangire9271 2 місяці тому

      You will never find someone as honest as that "SDA guy".
      The host is pinning him on what he honestly said he needs to read himself.
      What Miles has to do himself is explain how and why God left Jesus to fully understand that particular quote by Ellen.

  • @Leesmac
    @Leesmac Рік тому +28

    Richie sounds exactly like my brother when I try point out SDA errors, his number 1 answer is always “we are the only ones who study straight from the bible ..it’s all in the bible” it’s really exhausting. I gave up trying to convince him and the rest of the fam in SDA they are severely blinded. Holy Spirit come through 🙏🏽

    • @hotwax9376
      @hotwax9376 Рік тому

      That is such an obvious lie that I don't know how anybody in Adventism believes it. Adventism gets its beliefs not merely from the Bible, but the Bible as interpreted by Ellen G. White, the "spirit of prophecy." If you just read the Bible without EGW, you don't get any of the distinctive teachings of Adventism. James White (Ellen's husband) admitted as much, as did an early General Conference president in the 1800s. This is also the same reason Adventism cannot honestly claim that they don't hold Ellen White as equal to Scripture. She is the lens through which Scripture is interpreted for them, which is by definition an equal authority.

    • @awblanchard23
      @awblanchard23 Рік тому +4

      AMEN, yes Holy Spirit come through. My husband became SDA too and it's hell unleashed with an ax to grind against Christ and His own.

    • @rickhuntling7338
      @rickhuntling7338 Рік тому +3

      @@awblanchard23 I can help you with scripture to prove him wrong. Welcome the debate with him, and the fruit will come forth.
      Ask if JESUS lied to the thief on the the cross, "TODAY thou shall be with me in paradise"? Then read the story of Lazarus and the rich man to him then ask if they are conscious of where they are and how they got there. Then read 1st Pet. 3:18,19 how JESUS was quickened in spirit, desended to Abraham's bosom to preach to CONSCIOUS sprits in death's prison.

    • @awblanchard23
      @awblanchard23 Рік тому

      @@rickhuntling7338 My brother, I have used these same arguments, and I realize that I'm fighting against a religious spirit and a jezebel alignment working through a generational curse (my husband is from Haiti). As soon as I shoot back with the truth he will scream in my face ITS A PARABLE it wasn't an actual eye witness account from Christ but Jesus speaking in PARABLES! This thing is very vicious and manifests violently with screaming in my face to provoke me and then starts hitting and one time even choking. Jezebel spirit is no joke once it manifests. My husband needs salvation and deliverance. Our fight is not against flesh and blood people (including their reasoning from their natural minds) and it's spirits of wickedness and darkness we are wrestling against. CHRIST WINS HIM IN THE END! It's just a wild boat ride on the way to the land of a man's deliverance. JESUS GOT THIS.

    • @awblanchard23
      @awblanchard23 Рік тому +1

      @@rayray4192 This just may be a wild boat ride on the way to the land of a man's deliverance. JESUS GOT THIS. God's Spirit is at work in our marriage and my hands are OFF.

  • @TotoPaulino
    @TotoPaulino Рік тому +18

    Most SDA have difficulty explaining scriptures when it comes to the 28 fundamental beliefs.

    • @freeinhabitant2422
      @freeinhabitant2422 10 місяців тому

      "Most SDA have difficulty explaining scriptures when it comes to the 28 fundamental beliefs."
      I don't. What do you want to know?

    • @TotoPaulino
      @TotoPaulino 10 місяців тому +3

      @freeinhabitant2422 Thank you for your reply and openness to explain. In simple layman's terms using the Gospel Power of God for Salvation, please share your thoughts on the relationship of Fundamental belief 24 to John 3:16-19, John 5:24, Colossians 1:13-20, 2 Corinthians 5:17-21, Hebrews 8:1-13, 1John 5:11-13.
      I have to caution you that for the past 42 years of my SDA experience, I have already heard various views on this matter. I hope and pray that you have a better understanding, and I am assuming that you are a layman just like me. Although I was once an elder of my SDA church.

  • @GodLogicApologetics
    @GodLogicApologetics Рік тому +15

    That dude was soooo SCARED of Miles!

    • @answeringadventism
      @answeringadventism  Рік тому +8

      Bro, I couldn’t believe he tried pivoting to he didn’t show up for a discussion, acting like you blindsided him. Smh

    • @GodLogicApologetics
      @GodLogicApologetics Рік тому +2

      @@answeringadventism Literally lying about the stream 😂

  • @bjqb1108
    @bjqb1108 Рік тому +19

    Miles is NEVER RUDE. He is factual and he reads from the false prophet herself … so that she exposes herself … and he can’t handle that so he makes blanket statements of his beliefs

    • @Supermuffins
      @Supermuffins Рік тому

      Be careful of wolves in sheep clothing.. is all i have to say.. he has tattoos. Hes finding difficult passages in her writings and discussing with people who cant answer them.. its so easy to take things out of writings from any source. Especially that things can be taken out of context/meanings/ the person who wrote it cant defend for themselves because.. well shes gone

    • @nonconformist4802
      @nonconformist4802 Рік тому +1

      ​@@Supermuffins
      You are more muffin than super. God said: Sin against the Holy Spirit won't be forgiven. Yet now you attach tattoos and blowing bubbles because you have no real answer for the reality taken place in this video.

    • @Supermuffins
      @Supermuffins Рік тому

      @@nonconformist4802 who sinned against the holy spirit here?? Im talking about how irrelevant it is if "joseph took jesus vs disciples took him".. wake up! We should be fighting different battles not this. Cant you see the confusions from these videos and irrelevance? its a simple tactic to get christians confused and argue of meaningless things.. im done with this

    • @jamesmarks4361
      @jamesmarks4361 9 місяців тому

      he is exposing this cult church sda which he was once apart of which' he understands how it operates your church believes if you dont join or get baptized or believe their prophet or believe these extra teachings beside the bible or you have to follow the 10 commandments you not saved @@Supermuffins

    • @fjgarza1464
      @fjgarza1464 7 місяців тому

      🐥🫣🤣

  • @theodorechavez7058
    @theodorechavez7058 Рік тому +5

    In the beginning was the Word, & the Word was with God, & the Word was God.

    • @revelation1215
      @revelation1215 11 місяців тому

      And He was in the beginning with God.

  • @FFanatic222
    @FFanatic222 Рік тому +11

    The guy was off his rocker.
    But honestly I think he seems oblivious to the fact that Ellen's writings compose the entire church doctrine.
    Admittedly I was somewhat in this position too to some degree.
    It's hard to explain the "trickiness" since this can vary from congregation, person and so on...
    The plainest way I can explain it from my own experience is that. People who don't read scripture by itself are subliminally taught Ellen's writings.
    One example is that when I still on the Powerpoint quarterlies back in the day I had no idea the lessons were completely littered with Ellen's writings.
    This still sticks out in my head to this day but the first time (for me) when Ellen was brought up in lesson study was in one of the 2004 Powerpoint quarterlies. This was also around the time I started my baptismal lessons.
    In the first paragraph of the lesson it said:
    Quote: "A woman named Ellen Harmon fell in love with Jesus".
    Another thing is that during my baptismal lessons Ellen was rarely brought up or mentioned. At least from what I remember.
    Aside from taking "It's my choice" (which is a very funny name when I look back on it now) my Sabbath School teacher had some other material. The Millerite Movement was taught to me in a very generalized way it was not super in depth. The Kellogs thing was also part of the lessons.
    Overall my point is that Ellen is taught in subliminal ways so this gives people the idea that it's all scripture based.
    I know there is more to add to this but you get the idea.

    • @dustins382
      @dustins382 Рік тому

      Yes, they walk you through scripture and you usually only see scripture, but they weave the narrative in that they get from Ellen, without telling you it's from Ellen. And it's a completely foreign narrative to the rest of Christianity. But because SDAs are so isolated, they never have other Christians seeing this and pushing back, or at least well studied Christians that see through the deception.

    • @freeinhabitant2422
      @freeinhabitant2422 10 місяців тому

      You realize that topics such as, the Investigative Judgement, State of the Dead, Sabbath keeping were all doctrines accepted by the early Adventists prior to her visions and becoming part of the Church, right?

    • @matthewtoves8919
      @matthewtoves8919 7 місяців тому

      @@freeinhabitant2422 Objectively false. WTF is wrong with you? Are you just counting on people swallowing your bullshit if you say it confidently enough?

  • @intoxicatedbygrace
    @intoxicatedbygrace Рік тому +10

    I'm only half-way through and this is my perception: Richie Hart BELIEVES that the SDA Church as always had an accurate view of Jesus.
    But like many SDA's, they don't actually understand the Biblical/Orthodox view of Jesus. Further, they don't understand how THEIR view differs from the Biblical/Orthodox view.
    It is as a former 3rd Generation Adventist that I make this claim.

    • @Jaco3688
      @Jaco3688 8 днів тому

      That is an accurate assessment

  • @nixluvsjesus
    @nixluvsjesus Рік тому +9

    I had to go back and watch the replay again... The crickets at 20:13.... 🦗🦗🦗
    Wow he really doesn't know much about his prophets writings. From what Myles read, she definitely wrote a whole lot of stuff that doesn't even appear in the Bible. 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
    I really pray that this stream planted a seed and makes him go back to study further into their beliefs and then compare it to the Bible.
    God works in mysterious ways! 🙏

    • @hotwax9376
      @hotwax9376 Рік тому +3

      And this is exactly what started me on the path out of Adventism. Adventists love to preach that they're the church of the Bible alone, but their prophet repeatedly added to the Bible, something we are told not to do (see Proverbs 30: 5-6.)

  • @james_studio8065
    @james_studio8065 Місяць тому +2

    As a third generation adventist (former). I’ve always been taught that our beliefs were based from the Bible. And he is right, he just withhold the part that we were reading it based on the interpretations of White.

  • @kipchorngwonektiroto457
    @kipchorngwonektiroto457 11 місяців тому +4

    The doctrines of the sanctuary and the investigative judgment are the worst heresies ever taught!

    • @jimcovell1067
      @jimcovell1067 4 місяці тому

      Is that the one we're in purgatory or probation? Same thing to me.

  • @truthingrace3594
    @truthingrace3594 Рік тому +5

    I can't tell you how much I appreciated Avery with his patience and his wisdom handling the sda speaker. He was on point and loving. Very good very good.

  • @nadineburegeya5316
    @nadineburegeya5316 Рік тому +2

    Frère Miles, your very patient!!❤
    Gloire à Dieu pour ton endurance!!

  • @popeduck
    @popeduck Рік тому +5

    Oh my word! I interact with Jehovah’s Witnesses in person and online a lot, and this LDS guy uses the very same tactics in his interactions with you that the JW’s use, including:
    “I’m not here to argue/debate.”
    Changing the subject to Catholicism (for JW’s it’s about the Trinity; for LDS it’s about the Sabbath).
    Play the victim (“You’re attacking me.”)
    Making inspiration claims about their leader(s), but excusing (or denying or ignoring) their mistakes.
    Claiming ignorance (“I need to research that more” or “I need to see that in context.”)
    It’s crazy how he sounded exactly. Like. A. JW.

  • @Itching2bfree
    @Itching2bfree Рік тому +2

    Everyone, hopefully, is growing and learning. We are all at different stages in that process. The young man Richie is where he is until the next growth spurt. I trust that he will come to realize the hard truth that we have all been misled and caught in a sophisticated web of lies. I would prefer to see dialog with the leaders of the SDA church monstrosity because it is because of their influence that so many are still trapped. I want to give all praises to Yahshua for being the way, the truth, and the light. It is only through His power that we gain freedom.

  • @nixluvsjesus
    @nixluvsjesus Рік тому +22

    That SDA guy was clearly out of his depth.
    The guys were not being rude, especially the last speaker, think it was SheikhLogic (correct me if I'm wrong), was so gentle with him and wanted to have a genuine conversation and he still hung up when he couldn't answer the questions...
    We will still pray for them though 🙏

    • @chrislucastheprotestantview
      @chrislucastheprotestantview Рік тому +2

      Do you know if these people have channels?

    • @nixluvsjesus
      @nixluvsjesus Рік тому +1

      @@chrislucastheprotestantview sorry, I have no clue - perhaps Myles can answer that question for you...

    • @ADVENTFRAUDSQUAD
      @ADVENTFRAUDSQUAD Рік тому

      @@chrislucastheprotestantview Richie Hart @richielyfe 760 subscribers 19 videos

    • @nixluvsjesus
      @nixluvsjesus Рік тому

      @@samuelwilliams1559 ok

  • @benjaminparadise6397
    @benjaminparadise6397 Рік тому +3

    Thank you for exposing false teachers and a false prophetess. Ephesians 4:5. They are very convincing at getting naive people to accept Ellen White in their baptismal vows.

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому +2

    Self! Rightousness!

  • @michaelrodriguez6872
    @michaelrodriguez6872 Рік тому +4

    My brother Richie, you should have made an attempt to the best of your theological ability to answer Myles valid question in reference to the DA passage.

  • @umabrijmohun6720
    @umabrijmohun6720 Рік тому +5

    Richie"we have the same Bible as the others, we don't have any other book "this guy thinks we are clueless about the amount of EGW writings used in their Preaching, teaching, theology

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому +1

    They teach self!!!!! Exaltation!!!

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому +1

    You can’t sweep facts under the rug!

  • @johnmolina6927
    @johnmolina6927 Рік тому +5

    This was so cringe. Speaking as a former SDA, you cannot claim to he SDA while at the same time rejecting Ellen G White. She is one of the founders of the SDA church.

  • @TotoPaulino
    @TotoPaulino 8 місяців тому +2

    It is very difficult to defend or discuss something that is not clearly understood. I'm sorry for the guest who had no answer. May the Holy Spirit grant him wisdom to know the truth and be set free.

  • @bimosunupoernomo7120
    @bimosunupoernomo7120 Рік тому +2

    You as SDA MEMBER, you have to take everything in.

  • @elliot5573
    @elliot5573 Рік тому +4

    Very embarrassing from our sda brother. You see how fragile this belief system is. I ask myself, what made me follow this cult? The man is not free. I understand why many who got very serious about sda turned heathen in the end. Sda mocks Christianity in a deceptive way. 😢

  • @Over-for-now
    @Over-for-now 8 місяців тому +8

    The most important issue is: they deny the FINISHED and completed work accomplished by the Lord Jesus Christ. THAT is blasphemy blasphemy blasphemy

    • @jimcovell1067
      @jimcovell1067 4 місяці тому

      Amen. Sad but many rely on self.

    • @JudyAnn17
      @JudyAnn17 Місяць тому

      I believe the work Jesus finished, was to defeat Satan. But as our high Priest in heaven , that work is not completed.

    • @Over-for-now
      @Over-for-now Місяць тому +1

      @@JudyAnn17 if the work HE accomplished did not make us COMPLETE IN HIM --- then we ARE hopelessly LOST and without Christ

    • @JudyAnn17
      @JudyAnn17 Місяць тому

      @@Over-for-now The gift of life is free to those who love God. But, even so there are conditions. If ye love me, keep my commandments. The work Jesus accomplish was to pay our debt of sin and to defeat Satan as owner . Adam gave his kingdom to Satan when he disobeyed God.

    • @Over-for-now
      @Over-for-now Місяць тому

      @@JudyAnn17 my love for God is so weak --- it never impresses God
      He loved me and gave himself for me and in Colossians Paul tells the believer they ARE COMPLETE IN Him. My whole salvation is finished and complete. Without that truth we ARE under a CURSE. You need to KNOW THAT truth to be saved by Paul's gospel

  • @brittanib.6
    @brittanib.6 10 місяців тому +1

    not the SDA shuffle 😂😂😂!

  • @iguanapoolservice1461
    @iguanapoolservice1461 Рік тому +6

    What sabbath school lesson does not have egw quotes in it?

  • @brocliff2961
    @brocliff2961 Рік тому +22

    Richie is scared to have a conversation and defend his doctrine they ALL run when it gets hot

    • @revelation1215
      @revelation1215 11 місяців тому

      But why are they afraid to face truth? Is it the cult indoctrination?

  • @Fredperez76
    @Fredperez76 Рік тому +3

    Wow, do you affirm or not? Do you affirm the quote man!?😂

  • @thecelt231
    @thecelt231 Рік тому +6

    Since Richie doesn't read Ellen G Whites books then why does he promote her? His initial opinion was about Ellen GW. It's foolish to say he believes she is inspired when he hasn't read her books but he is also in denial because he chooses not to answer Miles in relation to EGW.

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому +2

    We been warned!!!!!! Repeatedly!!!!! By the Bible! About false Christs and prophets !

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому +1

    That is loving your neighbor

  • @edwinooo11226
    @edwinooo11226 Рік тому +3

    Funny how he's saying that Myles is rude. Has he not heard Adventists say that the Christian church is the whole of Babylon? That we are apostates? That we are Sunday worshipers? That we worship Rome? Etc. I mean when it comes to rudeness and persecution, he should look no further than the Adventist Church.

  • @donnajones7499
    @donnajones7499 Рік тому +11

    Most Adventist church members have blinders on about Ellen White because the leaders of our church keep pounding her writings and string them together to make them look plausible. I am a 4th generation Adventist and didn't know anything of the Investigative Judgment, standing without an intercessor, etc. In the last year I've discovered a lot of truth about a lot of things. I gave myself to Jesus when I was 3 and had to wait (much to my utter dismay and fear) until I was 12 to get baptized. It wasn't until I was 28 that I heard a lot of the unbiblical doctrines and had questions, today if I try to clarify things from the Bible, I just get told that I cannot bring up anything controversial. This is how leadership controls the congregation by dancing around about "going thru proper channels to get permission" or "don't bring up anything controversial." There is never a time in the church setting for thinking people to get their questions answered. In general leadership gets all blustering authoritative to cover the weakness in the church. I believe this SDA person is not genuinely trying to find answers, just using traditional shut-down the discussion tactics.

    • @dustins382
      @dustins382 Рік тому +3

      I guess the truth is controversial.
      "Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword." Matt 10:34

    • @freeinhabitant2422
      @freeinhabitant2422 10 місяців тому

      Sorry to hear all of that. I'd be happy to discuss anything controversial with you. Do you have and example?

  • @royeriksen103
    @royeriksen103 Рік тому +2

    Hi to you. It's the first time I visited your channel. You bring up a lot of interesting and important topics. When listening to this conversation, a question comes to my mind. When EGW wrote; "Satan wrung the heart of Jesus..." What did she mean, what was her emphazise and what is the context of that quote? Since I'm not a native speaker of English, I had to look up the word "wrung." Yes, you are right. Several dictionaries tells me it means "twisted." The book, Desire of ages was written in 1898, and I do believe the language and the words at that time could be understood differently compared to now. Anyway, Merriam Webster tells me that this word can bee understood in many ways, and as I see it, they point out that there is a battle going on, where Lucifer is using all the tricks in his book to deceive Christ to not go through, to not fulfil His mission to become the Lamb of the world, to become my and your Saviour. The chapter your are referring to, in Desire of ages, is a wonderful one. Since the time our "parents," Adam and Eve, fell for Lucifer's tricks, and even before that time, there has been a conflict between God and the one that wanted to be one, and during thousands of years, it has been raging through the centuries. On the cross, we see the highlight of this story, where Jesus continue to walk the line, to finish an eternal salvation, no matter the cost. This is the context of the word "wrung." The story of misery has not ended yet, and will culminate when Christ will gather fruits of His mission, the final results, the gathering of all who chose His side in the conflict between good and evil. Godspeed ♥

    • @revelation1215
      @revelation1215 11 місяців тому +2

      It doesn't matter what "wrung" means, it is the implication that Satan has any power whatsoever over the Son of God. He doesn't. Jesus knew fully what he was doing, what his sacrifice was for and he went to the slaughter freely, not in confusion, not as a pawn of Satan.

  • @jimijames7703
    @jimijames7703 Рік тому +4

    We are raised on the Bible?! Oh my !

  • @user-ux2mn3rc6d
    @user-ux2mn3rc6d Рік тому +4

    This was so entertaining! Mr. "Destroy false Christianity" got DESTROYED by Myles. Quote, "SDA's like to flip flop and when thing get tough, they become the victim, whaa whaa!". Later we find out Rchie loses his emotional control, apologizes for it, comes to another show and loses it again! His anger is rooted in cognitive dissonance.

    • @revelation1215
      @revelation1215 11 місяців тому +1

      I think it's rooted in fear ultimately.

  • @dustins382
    @dustins382 Рік тому +21

    Wow. Not a single question was thoroughly fleshed out beyond a canned response, and even the canned response had to push through tons of layers of deflection, or acting like a victim. True sign of being in a cult when you can't have a normal conversation about a topic without turning it emotional. Not saying he got worked up and yelled or whatever, but the language he used was similar to the language of manipulative people, and I'm not saying he was intentionally being manipulative, I'm saying he felt uncomfortable being pressed on his beliefs because he hasn't fleshed them out and challenged them. He's not iron, he doesn't want to be sharpened like iron. He's a wet noodle.

    • @glarimo80
      @glarimo80 Рік тому +8

      Tons of narcissists within the Adventist cult

    • @ADVENTFRAUDSQUAD
      @ADVENTFRAUDSQUAD Рік тому +3

      @@glarimo80 Amen!

    • @dustins382
      @dustins382 Рік тому +4

      @@glarimo80 like "prophet" like "disciples"

    • @nonconformist4802
      @nonconformist4802 Рік тому +3

      ​@@dustins382
      That is for sure

    • @calvindonaldson9879
      @calvindonaldson9879 Рік тому +10

      When the subject matter of Ellen White comes into the conversation, SDA's always play the victim. They are 2 faced.

  • @joshrivera1168
    @joshrivera1168 Рік тому +27

    That was disappointing indeed. I’m a struggling former SDA and really wanted to see a SDA come one and defend his beliefs. It really helps to see the deception better. Growing up we were taught to view other churches as apostates, taboo to ever go to them. Also EGW was mentioned but not like you’d think. Your simple taught the doctrines as the absolute truth and told it’s what the Bible says but your never showed how involved EGW was. Nor was I ever told to read her writings

    • @answeringadventism
      @answeringadventism  Рік тому +15

      Spot on. EGWs writings are at the top of the stream where the SDA theologians and scholars are swimming and drinking in.
      This then makes it way downstream to the laity who are at the bottom of the stream in the pond getting the trickle down without understanding her involvement in the development.

    • @GuytalkswithDr.G
      @GuytalkswithDr.G Рік тому +15

      Welcome. I came out about a year ago and I’m so thankful to God that He led me out.

    • @jimijames7703
      @jimijames7703 Рік тому +7

      Do we need a flashlight 🔦 to light our path on a blazing hot sunny 🌞 day?!
      She said “I am the lesser light” pointing to HERSELF?!! Logical fallacy !
      She also said “my writings should be scattered as autumn leaves in every home!” Think that through

    • @terrygreenman1540
      @terrygreenman1540 Рік тому +4

      @@jimijames7703 Have you ever thought much about the metaphorical aspect of the term "lesser light leading to the greater light"? It makes no sense at all.
      Consider the children of Israel fleeing the Egyptians in the dead of night with the "pillar of fire" as "the greater light"! Now, all of those people out there can see this great light! What need would they have of some 16th century BC "prophet" carrying a pitch torch -- "the lesser light" so that the people could find and see "the greater light" that probably filled half the night sky? The whole idea is ludicrous.
      Or consider another illustrative analysis, an even better one: Consider the people in the wilderness during the day. The sun is burning almost directly overhead. Now along comes this same "prophet' shining a flashlight around so that people could find and see the sun! Again, the idea is ludicrous!
      There's just no logic that can make this metaphor fit!
      And indeed, under this explanation, the metaphor really comes apart. For the "greater light" isn't even a light, but a light SWITCH! No longer is the metaphor, "the lesser light leading to the greater light." Now it is, "the lesser light leading to the light switch"! Suddenly Scripture is "a light switch"!
      The truth is that this metaphor is ill-bred and heretical in and of itself. Only our Adventist friends are so cultified that they can't see it or question it of think of it in logical terms. They're just stuck with it -- and all they can do is to get angry with you for pointing out its heretical flaws.
      A similar mis-metaphor is one flung at you when you disagree with some "cherished doctrine," such as the investigative judgment. They say, "You're throwing out the baby with the bathwater." You respond, "If the baby is Christ, then how am I throwing out the baby Jesus?" They can't answer.
      The reason: For them the baby isn't Jesus at all: It's CHURCH MEMBERSHIP! That's what's really precious to them and the raison d'etre for the metaphor. One of them said to me that she thought of her "in good and regular standing" church membership as "my ticket to heaven"!
      I kid you not.

    • @nixluvsjesus
      @nixluvsjesus Рік тому +8

      @@jimijames7703 Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.
      We can only get to the "Greater Light" through Him.
      So by calling herself "the lesser light leading you to the greater light" she's basically placed herself in Jesus' shoes.
      That's pure blasphemy and I can't even see how their members don't see that.

  • @jawanzadiame7501
    @jawanzadiame7501 Рік тому +5

    If the SDA guest had just kept reading in 1 John, he would have found out what commandments (commands, entole) were being referred to.

    • @christopherbarnes2510
      @christopherbarnes2510 Рік тому

      Really ? How so. Explain please

    • @jawanzadiame7501
      @jawanzadiame7501 Рік тому

      @christopherbarnes2510 Read the Passage. The Passage says what the commands are.

    • @christopherbarnes2510
      @christopherbarnes2510 Рік тому

      @@jawanzadiame7501 is John contradicting himself. has the meaning of the word commandment changed. Isn’t sin the transgression of the Law? Doesn’t God have Ten Commandments. Has that changed what is 1john 2 saying. Didn’t Jesus say that He kept His father’s commandments John 15:10. And John asks us to walk even as He Jesus walked. .. what is temptation and what does the bible mean by blessed is the man that endureth temptation that when he is ….

    • @jawanzadiame7501
      @jawanzadiame7501 Рік тому +2

      @christopherbarnes2510 John did not contradict himself. Check the meaning of the word commandments used in the Passage in the original Koine Greek. It's not the ten commandments.

    • @christopherbarnes2510
      @christopherbarnes2510 Рік тому

      @@jawanzadiame7501 all through the old and New Testament love of God is married to the keeping commandments and obedience Deuteronomy 39:16 Deut 13:3-4 to God. Isn’t sin transgression of the commandments?? . What does the bible mean by blessed is the man that endureth temptation . What does Paul mean when he says circumcission is nothing uncircumcision is nothing but what matter is keeping the commandments of God. John is very clear . In 1 John 5 same greek word ‘entolas’ is used is a broad term used also for the Ten Commandments Luke 23:56

  • @1971_happylifedog
    @1971_happylifedog Рік тому +4

    WOWZA! This guy didn’t come there to debate cuz he had no argument. So he started getting angry and gaslighting and deflecting! He has no argument! His false prophet made those statements!
    He couldn’t admit he’s wrong. Sad! I used to be like that. He can’t not believe EGW because her visions and works are the base of doctrine in the SDA church. In their 28 fundamental beliefs they affirm that she had the spirit of prophecy and when SDA get baptized they have affirm this.

  • @TheseSignsShallFollow
    @TheseSignsShallFollow Рік тому +15

    Honestly feel sorry for the guy. He’s clearly over his head in this convo. I pray this elbows him enough to make him research deep into what he actually believes and that God brings him to the full knowledge of the true gospel of Jesus Christ not the false gospel of SDA.

    • @Drowning_Girl
      @Drowning_Girl Рік тому

      All SDAs are combative like this. They are genuinely deceived. It makes me sad too because they are always more worked up over defending Ellen G White instead of reading their bible. They read Desire of Ages/The Great Controversy more than their bible. You could tell that guy wasn't open to hearing something new he already had his mind made up.

  • @socalsteeler3435
    @socalsteeler3435 Рік тому +3

    1 John 3:23 This is His commandment......believe on Jesus and love one another.

    • @nonconformist4802
      @nonconformist4802 Рік тому +1

      ​@@samuelwilliams1559
      Àdventist are not Christians, if they are than Catholics, Buddists and Moslems are also Christian.

  • @karen61777
    @karen61777 Рік тому +5

    Wow how frustrating this ‘conversation’ was ! Myles you stayed so calm even though you had to repeat yourself so much & the adventist guy still wouldn’t engage!
    This just showed so clearly that SDA’s have no idea where their beliefs actually come from !
    I have learnt so much about adventism since leaving & realise how confused the religion is - very sad
    I was also brought up Adventist didn’t go to sda school & therefore
    don’t feel I was quite so
    indoctrinated as I might have been had I been educated in the system BUT Ellen white permeates everything so even if you don’t pick up one of her books - you hear it in ‘sabbath school’ etc & don’t realise it’s not the bible you’re hearing 😫

    • @deborahthreefourfive6824
      @deborahthreefourfive6824 9 місяців тому

      Many years ago, pre 1970 an Adventist knew where their beliefs came from for they read Ellen G White. In the SDA services pastors would refer to certain scripture verses and then say, "Lets see what Mrs White has to say (or to tell us about) what this verse means." Today pastors of SDAism just memorize Ellen and weave it into the sermons along with scripture so that the members are taught what Ellen has taught them but the poor members think all they are hearing is scripture and a correct interpretation of it. They do not know what they are learning is what Ellen has written, additions to scriptures and contradictions to the pure word of God. My 40 some year old daughter if I speak to her about what she believes will tell me that which I have read in Ellen's books. I read nearly all of Ellen's books and some more than once. My daughter's understanding of scripture is as and from what Ellen says and yet she has never read any books that Ellen has written.

  • @nathaniejoysespene9318
    @nathaniejoysespene9318 Рік тому +2

    boy that took him 45 minutes just to apologize..hehe...i thought he's part of the discussion...

  • @terrencegrant3344
    @terrencegrant3344 8 місяців тому +3

    E.G.W makes a lot of money from books in her time. SDA making money now from her writing. We had an entire catalog when we were growing up. We had to read them.

  • @vladimirstephaniejean-pier9360
    @vladimirstephaniejean-pier9360 Рік тому +15

    As a former Adventist myself, it was frustrating to listening to Richie because that used to be me defending Ellen White despite all the evidence that she’s a false prophet. What amazed me in this convo was that he could call her infallible without having read one of her most popular writings - The Desire of Ages and one of the most important chapters in that book on Jesus’ crucifixion. If you’ve never read Ellen White widely, especially her most popular writings, you can’t then turn around and claim she’s infallible. How do you know that?!

    • @Keithiaartman
      @Keithiaartman Рік тому +2

      I have phased out SDAism too. The scales are falling off. All the best on the Christian journey. -Keithia

    • @awblanchard23
      @awblanchard23 Рік тому +1

      PRAISE JESUS!!!

    • @Keithiaartman
      @Keithiaartman Рік тому +2

      @@samuelwilliams1559 1 John 3:1-8 is absolute truth and also the rest of the chapter. Amen!

    • @awblanchard23
      @awblanchard23 Рік тому +1

      @@samuelwilliams1559 And you missed CHRIST.....John 5:39-44 NKJV
      You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me. But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life. “

    • @awblanchard23
      @awblanchard23 Рік тому

      @@samuelwilliams1559 SDA is a cult because you are following a woman (or man) and not God's Spirit for yourself. YHou don not have pure religion undefiled instead you have afortune teller who tells you that she knows more than the Bible by saying that Satan will be your scapegoat. A REAL scapegoat has to be perfect to bear sin ACCORDING to Levitcus...You may have head knowledge of the Bible but CHRIST Himself is not written on your heart if you beleive that satan is your ultimate sin bearer. Sin has no substance either because it is a choice not a substance like faith. GOd created everything that is seen from what is invisible and sin is not something He created. Also, JESUS took on the cross the full penalty for all sin (the sin bearer) and received without mixture (dilution) the full wrath of God for punishment of all sin of those Who chose to trust in Him as there perfect sin offering and sin bearer. He took what He didn't deserve for WHAT WE DO DESERVE....that is a true sin bearer. Also, the two goats had to be perfect without blemish, and satan already is fully and totally and UTTERLY disqualified PLAIN AND SIMPLE....No allegorizing, no spiritualizing JUST THE PLAIN SIMPLE UNDEFILED TRUTH. Just admit you followed a false prophetess and GET SAVED.

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому

    I could go on and on and on all day long!!!

  • @bimosunupoernomo7120
    @bimosunupoernomo7120 10 місяців тому

    Let finish this conversation.

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому

    I’m seeing roots here!!!!

  • @kipchorngwonektiroto457
    @kipchorngwonektiroto457 11 місяців тому +2

    I'm a former Adventist pastor. The writings of E.G. White are largely antibiblical.

    • @dbz24
      @dbz24 4 місяці тому

      and how many years were you a pastor?

  • @jimijames7703
    @jimijames7703 Рік тому +6

    Sorry for all the comments but I gotta say I think that did more to harm Adventism than anything I’ve heard in quite some time-and Praise God for it!!
    I was introduced to Gods Word in an SDA building but as soon as I questioned their prophetess I knew I was onto something.
    They spoke double speak as a knee jerk reaction.
    They are trained in deception.
    I love the people and each day I spend an hour or two sharing Scripture but it’s a long haul race it’s no sprint-the devil has brain washed them-he’s made them think that they are a pure glass of glacier water unblemished and all-but one drop of poison (of which there are many) makes it all unfit for consumption.
    It takes a long long time to start to see anything happening upstairs with long time Adventists.
    Thus was excellent and such an “object lesson!”

  • @Angelo20262
    @Angelo20262 27 днів тому

    Yikes, definitely I didn’t know this myself that many writings from our founders and EGW that the belief wasn’t that Jesus was God but “elevated” later many writings do affirm Jesus as God eternally.. eternal God.. in other later writings..Oh goodness what will we do.. that DA quote was odd for sure and not biblical, scripture doesn’t affirm Jesus ascending first to heaven after resurrection. I think sometimes as an Adventist currently 😅i do have cognitive dissonance. Many churches in SDA churches may preach the true gospel and believe we don’t put EGW above or equal to the Bible.. we say this and believe it but definitely many not all.. and we don’t see that we filter scripture through her narrative. We haven’t always been aligned with Scripture and currently I see we still have this issue when looking more closely to many of our fundamental beliefs.... 😢so sad.. Ongoing Bible student here. Good conversation. Also, a lot of us in the church don’t know Adventist history well.. or Christian history..clearly.. its embarrassing. Thanks for the biblical discussion. I have a lot to think about!
    Respectfully.

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому

    I seen a major!!! Attack on New Testament!

  • @tonyromero8284
    @tonyromero8284 Рік тому +2

    THIS WAS A GOOD VIDEO IT SHOES THE ADVENTIST CAN NOT DEFEND THEIR BELIEFS
    THAT IS SAD AND THERE IS A GOOD REASON FOR THAT THEY ARE ALLOVER THE PLACE
    ON THEIR DOCTRINES IN MY OPINION THEY ARE NOT CHRISTIANS.

  • @RonaldEmanuel
    @RonaldEmanuel Рік тому +5

    "Seventh-day Adventists _always_ believe that Jesus is God"? Clearly this guy knows nothing about what the pioneers like JN Andrews, James White, and Uriah Smith believed about Jesus.

    • @answeringadventism
      @answeringadventism  Рік тому +2

      That’s why I was so shocked initially. Definitely not tuned in on SDA history or the pioneers and pre-1864 days.

    • @RonaldEmanuel
      @RonaldEmanuel Рік тому +1

      @@answeringadventism I'd recommend him take a course on Adventist heritage. Oh wait... It's _always_ taught in the local church (or at least here in the Caribbean Union).

  • @Mister-Wabbit
    @Mister-Wabbit 3 місяці тому

    i got baptize in 2010 and in spanish SDA we never had to affirm Ellen G white but the fact is that Miles points out how this Church has difference believes or a confusion which i have experience growing up there.

  • @DavidTschoepe
    @DavidTschoepe Рік тому +2

    Richie won't answer the question..... he doesn't want to get backed into a corner. because there will be one certainly.

  • @Thekingiscoming1358
    @Thekingiscoming1358 3 місяці тому

    Its disappointing that in these times people cannot defend what they believe. Ive been an SDA for a few years now and i truly believe i am in the right place. On matters that i am uncertain about, I always ask God for his guidance and to make things clear to me and i can say up to this point i am confident in being an SDA. Ellen White is not infallible (she is a human just like everyone else), however her writings have inspired me to draw closer to God and to study the Bible more earnestly. You may not believe that the sabbath is still binding, but we keep it and it has been the greatest blessing to me and my family. I will admit that a lot of SDA do not study the Bible as they should which is a dangerous thing and i encourage you all to do better. Jesus is coming soon, may we all be ready.

  • @JohnJohnson-vg3nj
    @JohnJohnson-vg3nj 8 днів тому

    Hearing richie beings tears to my eyes he is so sincerely blind and i pray for him

  • @glarimo80
    @glarimo80 Рік тому +5

    Is “Who is Jesus?” A tough question?

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому

    And test the spirits

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому

    Profiting off of your!!! Soul!

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому +2

    Just saying watch out for scam artists!

  • @sweet1mcs
    @sweet1mcs Рік тому +7

    This guy is NOT telling the truth. Adventists have the Clear Word, which they use as their bible, and they use it on Sabbath.
    He said he goes by the Bible, but chose to talk about Desire of Ages. 🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️🤦🏾‍♀️

    • @ReverendThunder
      @ReverendThunder Рік тому +4

      Exactly. They are so snaky and deceptive.

    • @sweet1mcs
      @sweet1mcs Рік тому +1

      @@ReverendThunder Amen, Pastor! Praise God for yours, Myles, and Colin's channel! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾 Many are leaving Adventism and finding Jesus Christ!!!
      Continued prayers, as the 3 of you tell the world the truth about Adventism. 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

    • @ReverendThunder
      @ReverendThunder Рік тому

      @@sweet1mcs Amen sis. I'm beyond happy that He's raising us up to tackle them head on and produce resources to help people. Next week, a bomb is about to drop on them. The world renown Zondervan is publishing a book to help Christians with a variety of issues and topics about cults and current cultural Ideologies. I wrote the chapter on Seventh-day Adventism. The book will be sold in bookstores across the US, Canada, UK, sent to seminaries and universities, and the whole works. It's gonna be huge.

    • @TheseSignsShallFollow
      @TheseSignsShallFollow Рік тому

      @@sweet1mcs how do I find Colins channel?

    • @kerryscheatsheet8026
      @kerryscheatsheet8026 Рік тому +1

      ​@@TheseSignsShallFollow Search for CMB the ambassador 😊

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому +1

    About false teachers! Prophets! And false christs

  • @danieloostendorp9286
    @danieloostendorp9286 Рік тому +4

    I kind of understand Richie from a personal basis cause we also came in church for gospel Jesus and not knowing EGW writings .
    We only later start to find out some of the errors in the church.
    Richie let's face it cognicant dissonance . If you are convinced of what you believe be prepared to debate a subject as it is fruitful cause it may help you to realize errors of the church. SOP is a false prophet read the test of prophet in Deuteronomy .

  • @rafaeltorres2460
    @rafaeltorres2460 Рік тому +2

    Satan and the fallen angels believe Jesus is God too...

  • @waynecharles5331
    @waynecharles5331 Рік тому +3

    Wow,he reminds me of annanais and saphira in acts 1,he walks into miles without being aware that miles has been exposing sda heresy and lies for sometime now thats why he dropped dead in this interview.sad

  • @Rio-uv1gs
    @Rio-uv1gs Рік тому +2

    Reads Egw qoute..."Sorry can you repeat that again?"...... "stop shuffling" "are you finished"🤣.....(This dialogue)

  • @mmtoss6530
    @mmtoss6530 Рік тому +7

    “Destroying false Christianity” you gotta look inward my guy, 😂

    • @joshrivera1168
      @joshrivera1168 Рік тому +2

      He only destroyed himself in that cringy exchange

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому

    And leaders teachers misleading the masses!!!

  • @CanadianAnglican
    @CanadianAnglican 20 днів тому

    Richie seems very argumentative.

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому

    The point is to tell others they are being misled

  • @Jaco3688
    @Jaco3688 8 днів тому

    If the caller thought Myles was rude, he’s lucky that Myles was the cohost, and not Sam Shamoun. lol

  • @beatriceboansi2314
    @beatriceboansi2314 7 місяців тому

    That means there is unity in SDA, then.

  • @rhstclare1195
    @rhstclare1195 Рік тому +2

    Richie Hart sounds like he come from this stem of Adventism that really don’t focus on EgWhite; Ministers in these churches KNOW the doctrinal error so they stay away from EgWhite but stay part of the denomination. You will find many churches in Australia like that. And yes, I went to several Adventist baptisms recently and they did not publicly endorse the EgWhite baptismal vowels. Perhaps when you come across these kinds of adventists you need to take a different tact as they really do not know what EgWhite teaches - they just say by memory, “EgWhite is inspired”.

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому

    It might rile me up get me fumed!

  • @iguanapoolservice1461
    @iguanapoolservice1461 Рік тому +4

    How are you gonna pick a name like "destroy false Christianity" and come to the battlefield "unarmed". Brother Richie change that name, humble yourself, pray, fast, study and get out of that cult. Ex sda for 26 years here.

  • @andrewebanks325
    @andrewebanks325 Рік тому +1

    Am just so sorry I only have one like to give

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому +1

    What does bible say about angels and man bringing you another gospel?

  • @lifegrowth8295
    @lifegrowth8295 Рік тому +4

    Hey Brother Richie,
    I see @ 1: 06 you stated; "I believe that Jesus Christ is GOD... and that's what my church has always believed". Then after you were corrected, (in that the Adventist Church has not always believed that) you argued to refute the correction, but when it was revealed to you that the founder of your doctrine (Elen White) did not in fact believe that Jesus Christ was GOD, you changed the subject. In a proper discord, you must address claims at hand 1st, before moving to the next.
    Myles was absolutely using "Desire of Ages" quotes to prove that you're SDA Doctrine is not "Christian", thus Adventist are NOT Christians.
    If you are truly a seeker of GOD's truth, then you must allow such discourses to flow accordingly, addressing falsehoods as they arrive organically, and humble yourself to biblical corrections my brother.
    Also, give caution to contradictive and/or strawman responses. For @ 7:59 you stated; "I have no problem, I believe she was inspired... (meaning GOD told her what to say, but then you follow with a straw man stating; ) "...but her writings are not above the Bible". (which how could they be above the Bible, if both her writings and the writings in the Bible are both supposedly inspired by GOD)
    -we call that "dancing" brother Richie lol-
    ...and if that was done unintentionally, then your lack of comprehension did not allow you to properly follow the conversation.
    Try being slower to speed and quicker to listen fam!

  • @wendiwestenburg6052
    @wendiwestenburg6052 9 місяців тому

    I never investigated the 7 day church incomes lol I don’t think I want too

  • @glenbelga1328
    @glenbelga1328 Місяць тому

    Ritchie: have you not read desire of ages😂

  • @bentajay8973
    @bentajay8973 Рік тому +1

    Transparency is very important
    He doesn't see that Hallen whites writings contradictions the bible

  • @glorialoo3165
    @glorialoo3165 2 місяці тому

    There’s only one important question I have for SDA. How is it that Ellen White said nothing about the supposingly missing years of Jesus when it is plainly written in the Bible in Rev. and Ezekiel?