We went to spend a day with some friends at an RV park on a nice lake that was no where near any charging stations so I took my cord and rented a site near them for the day for $20 and plugged in when we got there and had plenty charge to make it home when we left. I rented a site with 50 amps though as that's what plug I have.
Excellent video. I bought the Tesla adapter plug kit but it didn't have the TT-30 included. I will have to find that 30amp/120v adapter because there a lot of RV parks that only have 15/20/30 amps.
I’m both a RV and Tesla owner, so I have the same TT-30 outlet at my house that most campgrounds have. I bought the TT-30 adapter (as you say, from EVSE) and it works great. My goal is to either bring my model 3 along on camping trips, or actually camp in i some day. It’s also nice to have another charging option at home, as well as being able to use campgrounds as a backup charging option, in case we got stuck on the road.
Very good video. I wish you could put together some kind of table to explain what gets what.... (it was simple but having all the information at one place will surely help) Thanks again.
Along with the temp that you mentioned slowing down the MPH charge rate the heated seat being on also might of affected the MPH rate. Super great video, THANKS!
ALWAYS completely UN-Coil your power cord, when coiled up they can get hot. I have seen extension cords coiled up and energized and it started a fire. NOT good. Great video on the camping world, a good primer for power out in the wild. Thanks for taking the time to put it all together.
Wait, how does the 120v15a adapter know to draw only 15 amps when connected to a 20 amp outlet? I'm making the assumption the electrical connection is identical on a 120v20a outlet regardless which plug you use. I'm guessing that the adapters aren't the "dumb" type.
Very informative video! It's too bad Tesla doesn't make a TT-30 adapter. It's nice to see EVSE does, however. I plan on getting the aftermarket TT-30 just in case the camp ground doesn't have a NEMA 14-50. I would hate to have to go from 14-50 to 5-20 and skip over TT-30 haha.
NEMA 14-50 adapter => 240 volts * 32 amps = 7,680 watts per hour TT-30P => 120 volts * 24 amps = 2,880 watts per hour 20 Amp => 120 volts * 16 amps = 1,920 watts per hour 15 Amp => 120 volts * 12 amps = 1,440 watts per hour NEMA 14-50 maxes at 32 amps because the Gen 2 charger is limited to 32 amps. You could do 40 amps if your charger supported it. TT-30P is 24 amps on a 30 amp circuit as that is 80% of the circuit capacity. 20 Amp is 16 amps on a 20 amp circuit as that is 80% of the circuit capacity. So if 15 amps is the baseline (1x): 20 Amp = 30% faster (1.3x) TT-30P = 100% faster (2x) NEMA 14-50P = 433% faster (5.3333x) Using a base assumption of 267 Wh/mile on a Model 3 (YMMV), 15 amp: 5.4 miles per hour 20 amp: 7.2 miles per hour TT-30P: 10.8 miles per hour 14-50P: 28.8 miles per hour Get a NEMA 14-50 outlet every time you can, it is nearly 3x faster (166.67%) than the TT-30.
Thank you for showing your work on the math. You are right, a TT-30 won't even come close to a full charge overnight (it would take over 24 hours from completely empty to completely full.
@@EHermesGlad to help! I know it's 2 years late :-) While the TT-30 is better than a 15 or even 20 amp circuit, the NEMA 14-50 wins every time if charging speed is your goal. When 14-50 isn't available, the TT-30 IS better. I have adapters for TT-30 to 14-50 just so the charger itself will not internally limit the charging speed because of the adapter selected. Cheers!
You should do a video on charging your Tesla campaign with a generator. You will need a grounding bonding adapter for the generator for Tesla to recognize the generator power.
Hey, I've been thinking about towing a teardrop with my EV9. I want to plug the EV into the 50 amp with a 40 amp portable charger and the teardrop into the 30 amp 120. What do you think?
Doubtful. They look very similar, but all I have ever seen are 50 amp 240 volt and 30 amp 120 volt. Almost the same configuration as a 30 amp, 240 volt but the layout is slightly different.
I actually make it myself. It is heavy gauge romex wire with a grounded electric dryer plug on one end and outlet on the other. I bought everything at a home improvement store, Lowes.
You need the mobile charger and the NEMA 14-50 plug (that may come with it). Then, I recommend this for the 120 volt 30 amp outlet often found at campsites.www.amazon.com/AC-WORKS-Charging-Adapter-Trailer/dp/B08VBLV7ZY/ref=asc_df_B08VBLV7ZY/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475715987248&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14243031451077835645&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9012222&hvtargid=pla-1182409019506&psc=1®ion_id=674469 It is a blast to camp with, in all seasons. ua-cam.com/video/8I4JXK4fgiE/v-deo.html
@@EHermes hi I found the one TT-30P RV/30 A gen2, do you mean this one? Also, I bought from Tesla shop for the mobile charger. It comes with one Nema 5-15 and one Nema 14-50. Do you think if I still need the link you shared?
One could have used the Gen 2 Nema Adapter 5-20 on the campground 20amp socket, and you will get 16amps charge as apposed to using the 5-15 adapter that only gives you 12 amps.
I had my Tesla plugged into the 20amp outlet at the RV campsite but I was only using the standard plug that came with the car which is only 15amp. My car was charging around 3-4 miles per hour. Now I have purchase the 20amp adapter and next time will use that and double the miles charge.
@@EarlBalentine You will go from 12 to 16 Amps 120V. It would make more sense to get a TT-30 which gives you the 24 Amps you are dreaming of. Best would be to use the 15-40 220V at 36 Amps if the campground supports 50 Amps.
I hadn't considered the 30 amp service outlet at a campground was 120v, which makes sense for camp equipment. Thanks for sharing!!!
We went to spend a day with some friends at an RV park on a nice lake that was no where near any charging stations so I took my cord and rented a site near them for the day for $20 and plugged in when we got there and had plenty charge to make it home when we left. I rented a site with 50 amps though as that's what plug I have.
Excellent video. I bought the Tesla adapter plug kit but it didn't have the TT-30 included. I will have to find that 30amp/120v adapter because there a lot of RV parks that only have 15/20/30 amps.
Thanks. I'm glad you were able to learn something new.
Big thank you! I’m doing my first camp out right now and learned it all from you!
Glad I could help.
I’m both a RV and Tesla owner, so I have the same TT-30 outlet at my house that most campgrounds have. I bought the TT-30 adapter (as you say, from EVSE) and it works great. My goal is to either bring my model 3 along on camping trips, or actually camp in i some day. It’s also nice to have another charging option at home, as well as being able to use campgrounds as a backup charging option, in case we got stuck on the road.
The extra piece of mind when traveling is king. There are plenty of rv campgrounds so in a pinch you can emergency charge.
Very good video.
I wish you could put together some kind of table to explain what gets what.... (it was simple but having all the information at one place will surely help) Thanks again.
Along with the temp that you mentioned slowing down the MPH charge rate the heated seat being on also might of affected the MPH rate. Super great video, THANKS!
Great video 🎉
ALWAYS completely UN-Coil your power cord, when coiled up they can get hot. I have seen extension cords coiled up and energized and it started a fire. NOT good. Great video on the camping world, a good primer for power out in the wild. Thanks for taking the time to put it all together.
Thats a myth.
Thank you for sharing
I can’t wait for my Cybertruck! You answered many questions I had for RV life
Wait, how does the 120v15a adapter know to draw only 15 amps when connected to a 20 amp outlet? I'm making the assumption the electrical connection is identical on a 120v20a outlet regardless which plug you use.
I'm guessing that the adapters aren't the "dumb" type.
Really appreciate this video, thx
Very informative video! It's too bad Tesla doesn't make a TT-30 adapter. It's nice to see EVSE does, however. I plan on getting the aftermarket TT-30 just in case the camp ground doesn't have a NEMA 14-50. I would hate to have to go from 14-50 to 5-20 and skip over TT-30 haha.
I bought my TT-30 adapter from a third party and it does not come in the Tesla adapter package, but I do not know if Tesla doesn't make one at all.
This video Saved me embarrassment and shame on first camping trip.
Glad I could help :)
You had your heated seats on which was likely pulling power and causing your charge to be a bit slower.
NEMA 14-50 adapter => 240 volts * 32 amps = 7,680 watts per hour
TT-30P => 120 volts * 24 amps = 2,880 watts per hour
20 Amp => 120 volts * 16 amps = 1,920 watts per hour
15 Amp => 120 volts * 12 amps = 1,440 watts per hour
NEMA 14-50 maxes at 32 amps because the Gen 2 charger is limited to 32 amps. You could do 40 amps if your charger supported it.
TT-30P is 24 amps on a 30 amp circuit as that is 80% of the circuit capacity.
20 Amp is 16 amps on a 20 amp circuit as that is 80% of the circuit capacity.
So if 15 amps is the baseline (1x):
20 Amp = 30% faster (1.3x)
TT-30P = 100% faster (2x)
NEMA 14-50P = 433% faster (5.3333x)
Using a base assumption of 267 Wh/mile on a Model 3 (YMMV),
15 amp: 5.4 miles per hour
20 amp: 7.2 miles per hour
TT-30P: 10.8 miles per hour
14-50P: 28.8 miles per hour
Get a NEMA 14-50 outlet every time you can, it is nearly 3x faster (166.67%) than the TT-30.
Thank you for showing your work on the math. You are right, a TT-30 won't even come close to a full charge overnight (it would take over 24 hours from completely empty to completely full.
@@EHermesGlad to help! I know it's 2 years late :-) While the TT-30 is better than a 15 or even 20 amp circuit, the NEMA 14-50 wins every time if charging speed is your goal. When 14-50 isn't available, the TT-30 IS better. I have adapters for TT-30 to 14-50 just so the charger itself will not internally limit the charging speed because of the adapter selected.
Cheers!
Oh. Charging a *Tešla.*
Was hoping this was about Ebikes - which just want a common 110 outlet.
Stay tuned; a video about e-bikes is coming.
You should do a video on charging your Tesla campaign with a generator. You will need a grounding bonding adapter for the generator for Tesla to recognize the generator power.
Hey, I've been thinking about towing a teardrop with my EV9. I want to plug the EV into the 50 amp with a 40 amp portable charger and the teardrop into the 30 amp 120. What do you think?
I do that all the time with my Casita.
I’ve seen 30 amp 240 V outlets (basically dryer outlets) on campground sites.
Doubtful. They look very similar, but all I have ever seen are 50 amp 240 volt and 30 amp 120 volt. Almost the same configuration as a 30 amp, 240 volt but the layout is slightly different.
@@EHermes I’ll have to double check next summer ;)
@@paulgoudfrooij6561
Great video . Where did you get that massive extension cord ?
I actually make it myself. It is heavy gauge romex wire with a grounded electric dryer plug on one end and outlet on the other. I bought everything at a home improvement store, Lowes.
Super helpful! Thanks!
Sorry, I am a new Tesla driver, could you tell me which one I should get if I go camp next time? I haven’t purchased the mobile charger yet.
You need the mobile charger and the NEMA 14-50 plug (that may come with it). Then, I recommend this for the 120 volt 30 amp outlet often found at campsites.www.amazon.com/AC-WORKS-Charging-Adapter-Trailer/dp/B08VBLV7ZY/ref=asc_df_B08VBLV7ZY/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=475715987248&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=14243031451077835645&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9012222&hvtargid=pla-1182409019506&psc=1®ion_id=674469
It is a blast to camp with, in all seasons. ua-cam.com/video/8I4JXK4fgiE/v-deo.html
@@EHermes thanks a lot! Just bought the mobile charge from Tesla online store
@@EHermes hi I found the one TT-30P RV/30 A gen2, do you mean this one? Also, I bought from Tesla shop for the mobile charger. It comes with one Nema 5-15 and one Nema 14-50. Do you think if I still need the link you shared?
@@steveshaw5300 All you need is the 14-50 that comes with the mobile connector and the TT-30 you found.
@@EHermes thanks a lot! I can’t wait to bring my Tesla to campground! :)
very informative, thank you
You will also charge faster with a lower state of charge.
Super useful thanks
One could have used the Gen 2 Nema Adapter 5-20 on the campground 20amp socket, and you will get 16amps charge as apposed to using the 5-15 adapter that only gives you 12 amps.
he should the different one
I had my Tesla plugged into the 20amp outlet at the RV campsite but I was only using the standard plug that came with the car which is only 15amp. My car was charging around 3-4 miles per hour. Now I have purchase the 20amp adapter and next time will use that and double the miles charge.
@@EarlBalentine You will go from 12 to 16 Amps 120V. It would make more sense to get a TT-30 which gives you the 24 Amps you are dreaming of. Best would be to use the 15-40 220V at 36 Amps if the campground supports 50 Amps.
Can you run Tesla camping mode while charging your car over night? Will this run down the 12 volt battery?
You absolutely can; that is what Camp mode is made for. I have done it many times and everything is fine in the morning.
The 12V battery is recharged from the high voltage pack automatically. The newer Teslas use Lithium 12V batteries.
what does the key fob look like?
The Model 3 does not come with a key fob. You don’t need one.
Maybe you were getting 1 Mile less due to your heated seat being on... Great video tho. Thanks!
Could be, I guess.
It seems to be Very bad Used in that environment