You may be right the big gun seems to be more of a support element. If it's 5" and cause the effects on everything under the AoE it could make Harkevich more viable.
Geoffrey Ayton If Victor as the rule "ammo type" this is going to change everything , at least for Iron Wolf cause it will mean x4 aoe5" CeFire each turn, if not Victor become far less nasty and interesting than the others Colossals cause "attack type" will nerfhammer our dream of glory about broadside . I suppose the power won't be over 16 cause they state a " high power" the pow 16 given to Hurricane main weapons, and about " very long range" i suppose we can talk about a 16-20" , that won't be so bad afterall , assuming that this seems a nice Colossal, but far away from others , c'mon PoM ignoring stealth is totaly out of mind! :) :)
What is this miniature appears to be Khador and is viewable in the foreground to 3:27mn ? Quelle est cette figurine qui semble être Khador et qui est visible au premier plant à 3:27 mn ?
Was going to save up just a bit more to get a Judicator soon... now I will wait just a bit longer to get both the Judicator and the Revelator... and the Hurricane eventually too...maybe two of them.
Aaaargh, not finished buying all the current ones yet LOL! Hopefully will have time, I hope when they do bring out gargantuans they are better than the first lot, rules-wise, especially the Legion one.
Uhh, I hope these are being sold as model attachments. Because they are exactly the same models but with small changes. Not paying 150 again for three small gun attachments.
Man I hope the Sepulcher has some additional range for corpse token pickup and Mcthrall deployment, at least 5" or else he won't see much play, as the mcthralls are not really apparent at all in the current meta.
i seriously hope they will be styrene injected molded kits, because they seem just to similar to the old colossals to NOT do that. come on PP, dualkit for both types please.
Still disappointed that warmachine didnt get more distinct second colossals. It's kind of unfair how Hordes armies got 2 distinct gargantuans for every army. You can rationalize the fact that they would share the same chassis but that still does not change the fact that Hordes get 2 distinct models and Warmachine armies do not.
At first, I wasn't too thrilled about the simplicity of "More Colossals". Stupid sales pitches changing my mind. Also, Victor sounds legit, not better.
I am really hopping they give the option to simply buy the weapons and attachments. I am not buying a whole new colossal when it is almost exactly the same thing.
+DeathKorpsCommissar They've said there wont be multi-kits. I think there's a chance there still will be, though. I mean, they're never selling another Conquest once the Victor is released. And I don't know about them being the same thing. The model might be but on the table most of them fill different roles than their predecessors.
OMG, look at that gun. If Victor is not at least rng 20 pow 16 with that built in innacurate, we can conclude PP gave its gun siege mortar as a name just to mess with khador players. (Like Conquest's main gunS).
+Evopure the ret one can give one focus to every myrmidons up to 5"" near him, which is insane. He has 14 def against range, and every ennemy who hit him at range and close is pushed back, making him very hard to kill (and he have more boxes than any colossal)
I thought that too but can't blasts only deviate like 6 inches though, if its a 5' blast and your shooting into a reasonably large unit or cluster accuracy shouldn't be a problem. The half dmg from deviating shouldn't be a problem when you can just choose to light everything on fire, and if the DEF drop is anything like the Spriggan's targeting flare it could be a placement rather then a shot.
These are awesome! I wonder if the Victor is going to give Harkevich the extra oomph he needs. Super looking forward to playing it.
victor just seems like a strictly better conquest though, imo. and forget hark, think fire for effect
yay! 1 shoot rat 2 and another rat0, cause of inaccurate , such a tasy nasty ehm oh w8.
You may be right the big gun seems to be more of a support element. If it's 5" and cause the effects on everything under the AoE it could make Harkevich more viable.
Geoffrey Ayton If Victor as the rule "ammo type" this is going to change everything , at least for Iron Wolf cause it will mean x4 aoe5" CeFire each turn, if not Victor become far less nasty and interesting than the others Colossals cause "attack type" will nerfhammer our dream of glory about broadside .
I suppose the power won't be over 16 cause they state a " high power" the pow 16 given to Hurricane main weapons, and about " very long range" i suppose we can talk about a 16-20" , that won't be so bad afterall , assuming that this seems a nice Colossal, but far away from others , c'mon PoM ignoring stealth is totaly out of mind! :) :)
I was thinking of naming my son Victor. Now its a given :)
Good grief PP, give me a break with all this awesomeness, I can't handle it all!
What is this miniature appears to be Khador and is viewable in the foreground to 3:27mn ?
Quelle est cette figurine qui semble être Khador et qui est visible au premier plant à 3:27 mn ?
That's Butcher's character jack, Ruin! Lookin' goood.
James Logan Gibke Thank you ^^
Khador's new character 'jack, Ruin, makes an appearance at 3:26
I'm hoping so much for Victor to be good.
Gator gargantuan 2015! Make it happen guys!
They did have stats for a huge-based Dracodile in the Iron Kingdoms RPG Monsternomicon. So that very well may end up in Hordes one day.
What about a Mercenery one?
Mercenaries already have two: Galleon & Earthbreaker
Fair enough. Can we have a Battle Engine then?
Grzegorz Zych
Yes. The concept art of the siege crawler was shown months ago so I think it is a very safe bet.
I wouldn't put it past Magnus to come up with some modifications for a Galleon, however he does not have much free time these days.
But, we dont use 2 colosses in 1 list without Jornkik's
Helios looks really cool!
Depending on the range of the Revelator's Feretory, this sounds like something that could work well with Exemplar Errants.
anyone know the khador jack at 3:27?
Upcoming character warjack for Butcher.
Was going to save up just a bit more to get a Judicator soon... now I will wait just a bit longer to get both the Judicator and the Revelator... and the Hurricane eventually too...maybe two of them.
I see this and get excited for new Gargantuans!
Aaaargh, not finished buying all the current ones yet LOL! Hopefully will have time, I hope when they do bring out gargantuans they are better than the first lot, rules-wise, especially the Legion one.
I want a new sound system on the new Gargantuan for the Trollbloods. And Halls of the Mountain King playing all the time.
Uhh, I hope these are being sold as model attachments. Because they are exactly the same models but with small changes.
Not paying 150 again for three small gun attachments.
YAY i think Eirusk has a new fire fore effect target
More than two years later, there's still no sign of the Revelator. Here's hoping for July 2017.
Colossal archnode? Count me in.
***** Chill.
***** I'm wondering how many times you spell checked that but never thought about checking your punctuation.
Alright Privateer you've twisted my arm, here's my money.
Man I hope the Sepulcher has some additional range for corpse token pickup and Mcthrall deployment, at least 5" or else he won't see much play, as the mcthralls are not really apparent at all in the current meta.
Dat Ending.
A Colossal Arc-node? Awesome! Nemo's gonna have fun.
I also have to say Ossyan is going to be evil with the helios.
i seriously hope they will be styrene injected molded kits, because they seem just to similar to the old colossals to NOT do that. come on PP, dualkit for both types please.
And that's exactly what they did!
And here i was afraid convergence wouldn't get anything. So glad to be proven wrong :D
Still disappointed that warmachine didnt get more distinct second colossals. It's kind of unfair how Hordes armies got 2 distinct gargantuans for every army. You can rationalize the fact that they would share the same chassis but that still does not change the fact that Hordes get 2 distinct models and Warmachine armies do not.
At first, I wasn't too thrilled about the simplicity of "More Colossals".
Stupid sales pitches changing my mind. Also, Victor sounds legit, not better.
its the 4th quarter of 2016 already... >:x
why are they releasing new colossals when they haven't even made our inflictor yet, QQ
My wallet is feeling heavy and I think I need some sort of massive pig to solve this problem. :3
I am really hopping they give the option to simply buy the weapons and attachments. I am not buying a whole new colossal when it is almost exactly the same thing.
+DeathKorpsCommissar They've said there wont be multi-kits. I think there's a chance there still will be, though. I mean, they're never selling another Conquest once the Victor is released.
And I don't know about them being the same thing. The model might be but on the table most of them fill different roles than their predecessors.
"Just Take my money!"
OMG, look at that gun. If Victor is not at least rng 20 pow 16 with that built in innacurate, we can conclude PP gave its gun siege mortar as a name just to mess with khador players. (Like Conquest's main gunS).
I'd be very disappointed if a mortar so big it could fire Man-O-War troopers had the exact same range and pow of the winter guard mortar crew...
Really hope these are new models and just upgrade kits.
For my wallets sake.
They all look awesome sound awesome and strong, except Ret's. Sounds pretty dismal. Could be wrong
+Evopure the ret one can give one focus to every myrmidons up to 5"" near him, which is insane. He has 14 def against range, and every ennemy who hit him at range and close is pushed back, making him very hard to kill (and he have more boxes than any colossal)
The Cryxian one seems rather underwhelming...
Now for something to boost Khadors inaccuracy
John Rooke Fire for Effect.
Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew Convergeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeence!!!!!! :D
Yay, khador gets yet another RAT 3ish gun that cant hit a thing
I thought that too but can't blasts only deviate like 6 inches though, if its a 5' blast and your shooting into a reasonably large unit or cluster accuracy shouldn't be a problem. The half dmg from deviating shouldn't be a problem when you can just choose to light everything on fire, and if the DEF drop is anything like the Spriggan's targeting flare it could be a placement rather then a shot.
I wish there was a more hard science sci fi version of this game. the rules are probably the best out but i am not a huge fan of the background.
weak :(
a second round of the worst idea they ever had. Hurray Y_Y