Where does Mother Earth Goddess come from? / Lycia History Documentary
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- Опубліковано 5 лис 2019
- "In Search of the Earth-Mother of Anatolia"
A documentary which looks at the root of the Earth Mother goddess common to European pagan religions; call her Cybele, Rhea, Ceres, or whatever - she comes from Anatolia and spread out in various forms from the Neolithic to the Iron Age. One late form was Artemis of Ephesus, an Anatolian version of a Greek goddess who was then sent back to Europe in her new form. This film focuses mainly on the Lycians, who were an early Indo-European people in Anatolia who seem to have preserved more of the pre-Indo-European Anatolian religion and culture than most.
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Sources:
- Bryce. T., 'The Lycians in Literary and Epigraphic Sources' (1986)
- Ovid 'Metamorphoses', Melville. A. D. (trans) (Oxford, 1986) amzn.to/3gMYIqD
- Evola. J., 'The Bow and the Club' (Arktos, 2018) amzn.to/2TTTSyX
- www.lycianturkey.com/cults_of_...
- bikeclassical.blogspot.com/201...
- turkisharchaeonews.net/site/x...
- Damgaard et al (2018) science.sciencemag.org/conten...
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oh. what is the song name of 6:23?
@@leuris_khan2 I was going to ask too
“Someone, I tell you, in another time will remember us.”
― Sappho
Thank you Tom, for putting in the massive amount of work into bringing out an another amazing documentary. We all love your work.
Your work plays no small part in ensuring our history lives on.
In india ,we still adress earth as mother godess (pruthvi mata).
And our nation herself as bharat mata ( mother india).
I wish Europeans were still connected to their roots and ancestral beliefs and traditions. Each decade we move farther away from our European identities and go down the wrong road which is sad. I see why so many of our people suffer from depression, opioid epidemic, suicide rates etc. We are disconnected from who we are and our roots. Mammals aren't supposed to disconnect from their identities like that.
Cheers
Way better than history channel.
Ayye! True! O' Groovy One
Needs more tattooed bigfoot biker pawnshop junkers.
Thankfully, UA-cam has been great for finding new, independent historical documentaries. The history channel has been run to ruin.
Thanks for helping keep the truth alive Tom. I look forward to your videos. 🙌🏻
You mean the "World War II Channel" 😏
Dont get locked into that phoneberg. just learn
Pre-roman religion...lesser known indo-european groups...an independent but well articulated documentary...you sure do know how to get me going Tom
They must have connections with Mithras as well.
Jews and Zion copied aspects from Mithras, Romans, Egyptians and Anatolians.
@@derbyheimgames457Jesus is the God of the Isrealites and the Parthians.
Your documentaries bring life back into these ancient ruins.
Bring on the re-sacralisation of the world!
People are reconnecting with ancestors and mother earth through these so called old gods
To think those carvings in solid rock at Tlos were done by hand, unbelievable craftsmanship.
@Celtic Phoenix Yes, including lost knowledge of horticulture, botany, animal husbandry etc.
Also we as humans have forgotten how to trust and follow our instincts.
"Aliens"
You should visit india and see our ancient temples ,almost all of them have even more intricate carvings.
Hinduism is one of the very few pagan cultures still practiced by billions of people.
Jai Ho (hail) Dharti (Earth) Mata (Mother) 🙏🚩🚩
❤️ From Indian Hindu !
Absolutely amazing, Tom. It is so detailed that you bring Lycia back to life!
Read that slowly.
your channel is a gold mine...
Great work Tom, really enjoyed this documentary. My wife, son and me have been to Letoon 10 years ago whilst on holiday. Fantastic place, wish I had this information before went. I’ll be coming back to this video/documentary, as I do your others; as it’s a lot of information to digest. Keep up the good work.
You've done it again Tom. Absolutely love your work.
22:24 Cybele as variation of the Earth-Mother fertility goddess of pre-Indo-European neolithic farmers, makes me think of Freyja and the Vanir in Norse traditions. That Cybele drives a chariot pulled by two lions is of course also strikingly similar to the chariot of Freyja (who is also is considered a fertility goddess) pulled by two cats.
Some interpretations of the war between the Æsir and the Vanir (as described by e.g. Snorri Sturluson in Ynglinga saga) have compared it to the clash between the pre-Indo-European farmer culture (i.e. perhaps the Vanir) with an invading Indo-European culture (i.e. the Æsir). Personally I think there are some truth to that since the archaeological material (and modern genetic studies) clearly shows a clear shift (in burial customs, type of material objects, genetic composition, et cetera) during the later Neolithic era (~3000-1800 BCE) in Scandinavia with the introduction of the so called Battle Axe culture.
Considering the similarities between Cybele and Freyja I understood that e.g. Britt-Marie Näsström criticises this connection (in her book "Freyja - The Great goddess of the North", 1995), which she sees as just based upon the two similarities of fertility goddesses and chariots pulled by felines. I have however not read her studies on the subject, so I can't really say so much more about this. I think however that it could be an interesting topic to dwell a bit deeper into.
Yeah another problem is that Jord is the earth mother, and Frigg has more of the roles of the standard fertility goddess whereas Freya is more like a goddess of promiscuous and taboo sex rather than motherhood and she is also connected to war and the valkyries
@@Survivethejive Yes, it's complicated. But I don't think we can exclude the possibility that there might be some traces here in the background. Traditions aren't static and with the introduction of the probably more dominant Indo-European customs, the older ways might have played a secondary role and thus been more prone to changes as times went by. The "original" form might thus have been distorted. This is however just some hypothesis of mine that pops up in my head as I am writing this.
@@Survivethejive I thought Freyja's taboo sexuality was more a result of Christians slandering the deity who they were least able to assimilate into their religious paradigm.
After all, most "earth mother" goddesses are said to have married their son or brother. It's a pretty obvious solution for the whole "how to populate the world" issue. But the story about her screwing a bunch of dwarves in exchange for jewelry sounds like straight-up "slay the 'dragon' Tiamat"-style propaganda.
@@maple6573 Well even if that were true it wouldn't explain similar goddesses attested in pagan times. There is usually a goddess of Motherhood and another of youthful sexuality and it is clear Freyja is the latter although she is also a dark goddess associated with war and battle like Athene
Look up the Venus Of Willendorf and the Venus Of Brassempouy.
I love how there's no one there and you can just walk around these ancient ruins calmly. Incredible work. Thanks Tom.
This is fantastic Tom! I really enjoy the format you used for this video. I’d like to see more like it!
Thank you Tom, you always seem to produce a video on a topic that I am looking into at the right time. You bring knowledge to us all that we would not have access to otherwise. Thank you again.
I love this style of film making you are presenting. The music, the progression. Though I know nothing of filmaking it feels right, and satisfying.
What a great documentary! It's amazing to see that so much time and effort has been spent to make this. Keep up the wonderful work!
"The Greeks inherited the worship of the Great Mother from the Phrygians, and not just any Greeks but Athenians, who knew through experience that to mock the orgies of the Mother is not a good thing". Julian knew where it was at.
I'm glad I'm taking the time on my day off to go through your older videos. Learning more than I ever have on my own.
This is very well done; informative and fun to watch. Great job!
The filming, narration, editing, subject, .......and your voice and face, all so beautiful. A work of art, really. A modern day masterpiece.
Outstanding production work and content! Your enthusiasm and knack for highlighting religious correlations between related Indo-European and Neolithic cultures is a true gift! Thanks again for all the research and dedication to reviving the indigenous spirit of our European peoples. We may be scattered across the globe, but we're united by this common heritage :)
Great stuff as always, loved that Bellerophon story.
Watching with my sons. Glad to see you made use of that underwater camera lol.
Such great content, far surpasses most historical and cultural channels on UA-cam. Thank you for uncovering our ancient pagan roots.
Shared and appreciated!
An excellent documentary by a self-determined and passionate British historian and archivist.
Finally getting around to this one. Thanks for the work Tom. Not often I find a UA-cam channel that doesn’t relegate itself to background noise for me
Your content is a breath of fresh air and a blessing to the preservation of European history. I enjoyed your storytelling and wonderful videography very much so!
Beautifully-done, informative documentary. I am learning so much about our past in your videos. Thank you for all your hard work.
Bless, this is underrated. You're going to become very popular.
Thank you Tom. Flip! I love your tour of that part of the world, very few documentaries treat myth and legend as respectfully as you do.
Thank you Tom for all the hard work! This is important stuff...
Absolutely inspiring. So simply shot, just an expert excelling at his craft. Subscribed.
Keep it solar gentlemen.
@Aryan The Sage he probably meant ... surayavanshi.... from lineage of sun (sun God) .
@@prakashkumarsingh708 nope, survavamsha is puranic, not vedic....no one can be born from sun, it is hot ball of plasma
@EmtronVenger The one who hated Medea?
“”You bitch! How often you have woven magic to drive me from the sky in search of love so that, in total darkness, you could work your sorcery at ease, your precious spells. Now you are subject to the same obsession I suffered.” - Argonautica, Book 3, verses 75-80
really good stuff here! Best documentary I've seen all year
Love your channel Tom, thanks for all you do.
Awesome job. I've only seen photos of these places, it's nice to know the history and legends behind them too.
Another awesome documentary! Well done.
Recently stumbled on your channel, I am very impressed.
Damn, I didn't expect the entire documentary to be for free, can't wait to watch it tonight!
You are providing an invaluable service to us all. Thank you so much.
Awesome. Excellent channel. Great video.
Thank you for your efforts (and the results)!
Your knowledge is truly amazing!
I've been looking forward to this!
Excellent documentary Tom👍👍👍👍👍
This video is a gift to Westernkind
Stellar work Tom.
It would have been nice if you had talked a bit more about the ancient DNA, and accompanied talks of migrations with maps of the region. Looking forward to seeing much more like this from you.
Superb work, Tom.
This channel is criminally undervalued.
Very interesting. Great ending, especially the underwater shots.
Yoy really appreciate history and completely have my attention. Love how you add the literature.
Excellent! Thanks and keep it up.
Very interesting and informative documentary. It's really helpful to see the various names in text, I kinda wish they could stay on screen for longer. And sometimes you speak really fast amd give a lot of information at once like around the 23:12 mark, which also makes some of what you say hard to understand. I'm not drying to be rude, just offering some constructive feedback. I'm excited for future documentaries :)
Really interesting, I saw some Lycian tombs when I stayed in Dalyan few years ago must have been serious graft carving those out of solid cliff faces. Kaunos is amazing.
More sterling work from you here Tom!.
Turned out amazing mate, made me wonder a lot about Cappadocia and its underground network of cities that held thousands just as many years ago
Excellent film, Thomas!
Man, I love your videos! Thanks for all the knowledge!
I don't believe that people like you exist, you are a living legend!! Thank you very much for bringing this this knowledge for us!! I've been studying this whole subject for years, and it's comforting to know that people like you too, it makes us feel some hope...
Like the synth tune. Excellent work
Excellent work. Thank you 👌🏻
I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank You
Thanks, very interesting and informative film.
Just became a patreon. Your videos are the most interesting ones about ancient history I have found in the last months and would love you to keep doing work like this.
PD: For those who want to know the name of the tune at the end of the video, that one is Xurious - Identity Evropa.
Amazing channel 🤘🏻You’re awesome, man.. and inspiration to our people and you’d make our ancestors proud. Amazing content 🤜🏻🤛🏻 much love from America
Very interesting, cool video, enjoyed seeing the ancient ruins of Lycia, especially the tombs carved into the rock.
Really taking it up a notch here Tom.
Thank so much for this.
I just gave it the 1000th like!
StJ really is top quality history content. Much respect
Thank you, wonderful documentary. We are fortunate that curious and knowledgeable Englishmen have brought history back to light.
This channel is a blessing.
The Earth Mother gives forth life. No wonder she was held in high esteem, we come from her and we all return there.
Another wonderful documentary. Visited all of the Lycian cities over 20 years ago and visited the mountain where the Chimera was killed.. Wish I'd had this info then.
Peak optics intro brother. Great job!
Love your channel so much thank you
It pisses me off that this still has only forty-thousand views.
71.000 now
EXCELLENT VIDEO...THANK YOU
Holy! I cant believe this high quality content is free!
A very interesting synchronicity just occurred. I woke up and this video was the first video I viewed in the morning as I made coffee. As the introduction of the tombs proceeded I had a league flash that I had dreamed about something very much like them. But then of course I thought I was just confabulateing. So I continued watching. A few minutes later the memory of the Dream came flooding back. I won't go into everything that came back to me from the dream. But this detail is worth mentioning. I had the task of delivering the bones of a high-status individual to a place. This place was not high up it was far down a slope near the bottom. This place was chosen because it was where animals of some kind went to die. Rather like the stories of elephant graveyards. I'm not sure but I think the person was being sent there because of some transgression.
Found you on Woesies Millenni yule! Aside from politics I enjoy history. Totally geeking out to this man. Thank you for putting the time and effort in to this for us.
Tom,
Can you not open comments on Telegram? Be a shame if all the dissonant boys get kicked off here and have to start again on there and Bitchute... Your a top chap anyway sure the chats will be respectful 👌🏻
@@Strutt111 t.me/survivethejive
Thanks mate, I joined a while ago, just think the comments on videos and posts on Telegram would be awesome. I'd love to have a bit of back and forth, ask some questions and what not. What a moon on the 10th!! We should arrange a Yule party next year!
Hearing you read that passage of Ovid makes me want a Survive the Jive ancient bedtime stories podcast
the story is already available as a podcast. www.spreaker.com/show/survive-the-jive-podcast
very much enjoyed this one, a subject of much interest for me, the early Anatolian Farmers are of much interest
Good work Tom
I love you
This is an amazing display of your gifts. To bring such knowledge. Bad ass brotha!!!
its interesting that there are so many places that were once great cities or kingdoms that then turned into ruins, or tiny villages, and their greatness was completely forgotten.
I am so glad to have found you.
Mars and Hercule had secondary roles as agrarian gods too, though their primary role was essentialy wargods.
Keres= cerealiculture
Hercule/Mars= husbandry, guardian-protector of sheperds.
When he talked about Bellerophon's deal with Poseidon and how he flooded great swathes of Lycia, I thought he was gonna make a connection to the Sea Raiders of the Bronze Age, as he mentioned that there were a anecdotal connection between them and the ancient Lycians. I thought he was gonna theorize that, because all their fields were now flooded, the Lycians turned to a life of sea raiding to survive.
Standing and Applauding. Fantastic job.
Great watch! 😀👍🏻
your videos are great
I think it would be cool to have Tom as a travel friend if you went around Europe. You'd get to know the history of it all and all that stuff.
Beautiful, fascinating. Lovely art and architecture. Everything pre-Midevil is perfect, sophisticated.
One of your best to date. 👌
Fantastic content. Epic outro...
Great addition to Lindybeige's piece, you two should collaborate.
Anyway, thanks for quality content.
Great job Tom
Some documentary about balcan history would be fenomenal,greetings from Dubrovnik Croatia
Absolute kino. Survive the Jive: Where knowledge becomes art!
love the soundtrack :)