Who Killed the Stonehenge People?
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- 4500 years ago, just around the time that Stonehenge was completed, Britain was invaded by a new people from Holland who replaced the henge builders. They left burial mounds all around Stonehenge and carved images of weapons on the henge itself. The plains around Stonehenge contain one of the densest concentrations of Bronze Age barrows in Britain. There are over 300 within within a 2 mile radius around Stonehenge. The area has been the subject of archaeological research since the 18th century. The Indo-European barrow builders of the Dutch beaker culture loved gold and were more warlike than the Neolithic natives who built Stonehenge. We can look at the DNA of the Boscombe bowmen who were buried near Stonehenge, in order to understand more about the Bell Beaker folk. This video also looks at grave goods from the Normanton Down Barrows.
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Correction:
- Around 9 mins in I said the Beaker folk didn't make any stone circles anywhere. That isn't so - there are stone circles and even passage tombs dating to the beaker period.
9:08 needs fixing
The difference between honest people who value Truth and many other UA-camrs and nearly the entire Mainstream Media. Truthful people like you and Dr. Reich easily admit when the data corrects them and they embrace it. The Mainstream Media will only double down on their previous mistakes ( or lies ) and tell more or just ignore them. Your channel has gotten better and better over the years as your production values have increased and the availability of genetic evidence and artefacts has multiplied. Thank you.
We are gonna be known as the tupperware people in the far future.
even worse...the Aluminum can people.
One day - Future people's will place our vessels in a museum. Hot debate will surround the label "Made in China." Scholars will argue we stamped it on everything because it was a protective prayer for our most sacred goods.
@@KathrynsWorldWildfireTracking they will all agree that China was a purely mythical place.
Tupperware culture of the lower petrol-age
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How awkward would that be.
Young woman: You must go out in the world and prove you are a real man before I will marry you
Young warriot: Oh ok...
8 months later
Young woman: Oh, look at all the spoils of war you have returned with, you are truly a man now, I would love to take you as husband
Young warrior: Yeah so uh... I sort of found a much hotter girl in a raid and I'm marrying her instead.... sorry about that
patrolled
ⵣMazighⵣ ⵣZenatiⵣ
*Neolithic European girls
Yamnya girls were subservient to their patriarchal male counterparts.
@@snowfrosty1 meanwhile they were dirrrrty XD
Typing: " as long as" they were
Stekar Knugen I mean, our young warrior could just Mary both, or else keep one as a concubine…
It seems that major migrations are always followed by replacement; not co-existence. An inconvenient observation in contemporary western society, surely...
Grundy Malone I wouldn't exactly call that "co-existence".
As grey squirrels replaced the red squirrels.
If you look at the charts of what comprises the British Genome you see a decent amount of EEF in there... They mixed with these people rather than outright replacing them.
It rarely goes well for the natives.
@Kelley
If you look at the chart in this study, on page 17 www.ed.ac.uk/files/atoms/files/archaeology_et_al_-_an_indo-european_study.pdf, it shows a modern and ancient breakdown of genetic profiles of Europeans. As you can see virtually all modern Euros show some degree of mixing between the three major genetic groups that makeup European people, WHG, EEF, and PIE (Yamnaya). All Euros carry these genes the actual breakdown depends on where in Europe the individual originated. Northern Euros tend to be heavy on PIE, a little more than average on WHG, and modest on EEF. Whereas Southern Euros tend to be heavier on EEF. But all Europeans, whether an olive skinned Italian or a lily white Swede still contain all three to some degree. At least thats my take on the studies. To me it just shows how related we all are when it comes down to it. It even has the profile for the 5500 year old Utzi or Iceman. As you can see he is predominately EEF, which is hardly surprising. However, even he couldn't fully escape the "Yamnaya curse" as he has a small amount as well as a trace of WHG.
These types of videos regarding primordial history are very intriguing and greatly appreciated.
No actually they're really boring. Can't wait to be bored by more though.
@@mouthpiece200 No actually they're really interesting. Over 1, 200 likes in just over 24 hours and only 22 dislikes by anti-Whites proves that. If they're so boring to you then move along or how about you just keep your dimwitted comments to yourself.
Thanks.
@@cascadiapatriot7831 what does white or anti-whites have to do with it? By my understanding the early Neolithic people were brown skinned with blue eyes, not white skinned at all.
Unrivaled integrity.
Such a prize of our folk.
Descendants will remember, Thomas Rowsell will be known.
You are truly a guardian of the indo European folk and culture !
Visiting England for the first time this year and Stonehenge will be one of our stops. Thanks for the history lesson!
I should advise you that of all the many amazing megalithic structures in Britain, Stonehenge is the only one you have to pay for and the only one you can’t touch
Nice.
I’ve studied pre Roman Britain for about 15 years now and you raised a fair few points I had never even considered. Great stuff, very clear.
This video was absolutely mesmerizing. Loved every second of it. No, seriously, this is A+ content, I am actually shocked how can pre-history be so mysterious and distant and we still have ways of finding out what happened to certain degrees of certainty. Science furthering science, what a time to be alive. I wish you all the best from Brazil.
I take the children to stone henge almost monthly and still haven’t managed to see the vast area in its fullness, we live just over the county line in Somerset, but Wiltshire is beautiful I must admit, so much ancient history in quite a small space
I live the other side, try to get up to Avebury and Stonehenge as often as I can, I still have only explored about 10% of that landscape
i thought i recognised you, i follow your instagram, not surprising we are both here
Who did destroy स्तोनेहेङे?
@@mxe2693 who did destroy stonehenge?
@@joshpullman1690 who did destroy stonehenge?
Certainly, it would be an absolute joke of Fate that the greatest construction of Neolithic society, the apex of its civilization, was the direct cause of its destruction.
Applied Mythology.
Very informative and current. No one else is doing this. Thank you!
It's a big task to tackle. Currently on youtube he is the only one perhaps being so dedicated. Does a great job. Even enlightened me on a few things.
Best yet! Whenever I have visited Stonehenge I've always been more fascinated by the barrows than the stones themselves.
The new study just have been published in the journal Antiquity. Archaeologists and geologists from the UK studied the smaller rocks used to build Stonehenge and pegged them to two quarries in the Preseli Hills of Wales. Upon visiting the sites, they discovered traces of tools, stone wedges, and digging activity. The evidence dates back to 3000 BCE, the same time when construction on Stonehenge started.
The results also dispel previously held beliefs concerning the rocks' origins. Though it's widely accepted that the stones came from the Preseli Hills, this study is the first to trace them to two specific quarries on the north side of the hills-Carn Goedog and Craig Rhos-y-felin. It was thought for nearly a century that the rocks were excavated from the opposite side.
The research team says their findings suggest that materials used to make Stonehenge were moved by purposeful human activity rather than freak natural forces. But the study still leaves some questions unanswered, such as how the ancient peoples were able to transport the rocks 150 miles after digging them up. The fact that the rocks came from the north side of the Preseli Hills suggests they were dragged over land rather than transported by river-though the exact methods used remain a mystery .
this is not really new information. i learned this 25 years ago
Your perspective sounds very plausible. Stonehenge attracts and fascinates people in modern times. Makes sense that once word started to spread outside of Britain, it could have been the beacon that drew the attention of the invading peoples and young warriors looking for wealth, women, and status.
I love the video, you impart a high volume of information quickly, it's a relief to find a channel like yours, unpatronising and worth rewinding :)
I'd bet on a plague having wiped out the Stonehenge builders, I remember reading about the presence of the host bacteria for plague in a couple of remains. One of the most recent plague models for the y. pestis agent shows that the plague spread before the migrations began, suggesting it may have spread from Trypillia across defined trade routes, not from the corded ware and Yamnaya people's. In that case the PIE people didn't invade Europe but flooded into an almost empty continent. They would have assimilated into local cultures had not the new settlers outnumbered the survivors. This of course is mostly fantasy, there is still too little data to say for sure.
We know for sure Yamnaya carried plague
@@Survivethejive i am afraid the genetics do not support your plague theory. this is what the genetics show.
a few years after the arrival of the yamnaya the y chromosomes from the neolithic males disappeared . neolithic men sired no more children.
this could support your plague theory. BUT, the FEMALE genetics from the neolithic people continued unabated into the future. The only explanation for your plague theory is that the plague wiped out the male neolithic but didn't have any effect on the females neolithic .
VERY VERY unlikely.
I wouldn't trust a yamnaya male as far as i could throw him.
Can't wait for your arrival in Poland and to have your input on the recent discoveries in Spain.
Catalyst Drive i made a patron video about iberian genetics already
Absolutely fascinating, you filled in details of much that I've tried to explain why the British could establish colonies that became America and Canada. I sent this onto "HBDChick" the woman that writes about the changes to European breeding patterns especially the effects of "manorialism" of the French. Great video, just brilliant.
Colonies are really nothing to be too proud of.
@@jessikamoore5033 Unless they are, in New England was established a standard normal across the world, female literacy being "normal". That is Puritan and unique. Without Greeks taking over Egypt, the ancient artwork would have never been preserved, eventually they became the Kopts and ruled Egypt because so few ethnic Egyptians still had substantial numbers, hence Cleopatra.
@@jessikamoore5033They are, cope and seethe
Your videos just get better and better. Excellent work Tom
Even without ever reading it anywhere I just knew his name had to be Tom
This video had me almost spellbound throughout. Thank you!
Excellent piece of work, very thought provoking and well argued.
Very interesting, will have to watch it again at a later date to absorb all the information provided. Great video Tom!
Fascinating as ever. Thanks for putting these together.
Good research, very informative, and solidly presented. These videos are always a pleasure to watch (and rewatch). - Þórbeorht
Fascinating brother! Love this stuff.
Fast approaching 50k subs.
Awesome to have your knowledge on this subject shared.
This will be the video that reaches the 50k!
I visited in 1975, we could walk up to the stones back then, no fence or tickets. Sadly, I was still too young to truly understand what I was looking out.
This is one of your better videos. Heavier on content and lighter on style. Thank you very much.
Really good video Tom, deeply enjoyed it!
Well explained, def opens the subject up👍🏻
Really interesting video, glad I found it. I think this is my first visit to your channel, subscribed.
You are doing a wonderful job! I wish more people were into this
Excellent vid StJ, really enjoyed it!
Great video very well articulated.
Absolutely great video
fabulous video, thank you.
Very interesting indeed another smashing video sir 👌🏻
Amazing quality videos STJ ❤
Fantastic video, you never disappoint
GRIMRIK!!! Fascinating video. Thanks!
Very interesting and historical much appreciated!
good work, and thank you
Very informative video! Great to see that you enjoyed Kershaw's book.
This is the most informative thing i have ever encountered , Such a history, i never even knew about those carvings... interesting stuff, very meaningful too, that is to the people who carved them.
I love you stuff. I watch stuff on TV. And l could tell they don’t know what they are talking about. Your stuff teaches real history thank you
A new history channel to binge on...brilliant:)
My family is from a village very close to Stonehenge. This is a very interesting video. Thank you!
Wow, Tom Hardy really knows his shit!!!
Awesome as always, but particularly awesome! :)
Sounds like the replacement of native Britons of our present time period. Why would the invader adopt any of the culture that is on its way out? So it is today.
It's different in that the Indo-Europeans actually earned their place through military superiority and subsequent self-sufficiency. Modern invaders are invited and then supported. It's one thing to have the better man win; it's quite another to throw the fight.
Not exactly the same context. The invaders were invited in by a powerful elite who have a great deal of cultural influence. Sharia law isn't the future of Britain, hoejabis in yoga pants with polyamorous relationships are.
@@deepsouthredneck1 Doubt, this kind of thing is mostly on the periphery of the muslim community in the UK. The children and grandchildren of first generation muslim immigrants tend to be more, not less devout on average.
@@syedhasanahmed3514 Neoliberalism corrodes all. Muslims are allowed to be traditional to some extent because you have to get the fish to bite before you set the hook and they're a useful cudgel against the natives, incrementalism is their modus operandi. Not to mention that they're almost entirely motivated by materialism. All Muslims with any degree of power or influence are on board with the POZ, and those who are too stupid to realize this and deviate from what is expected are destroyed.
Well, according to this video, and many other sources of course, the definition of "Native Briton: has changed many times over history. Less than 10% of the Neolithic natives survived invasion, so most of Brion is already populated with decedents of invaders. So really, what is happening now, is a variation of a long held tradition in Briton.
In all seriousness though, White Euro's, whether in Europe or the US, are a declining population. The world is changing and so will it's power structures.
Thanks. You've made some compelling points.
A good video though there are still uncertainties. Recently when I had my DNA done, I was told I have the uncommon mutation known as "Ancient British" gene which translates to the Indigenous people in Britain before the Beaker People arrived and who built Stonehenge. The Haplogroup is M-284 and the mutation I have is known as I-L126, which dates to about 5,000 BC, 2,000 years before the Beaker people arrived. But even though my mutation is called "uncommon" it is not extremely rare. The Ancient British gene is found today sprinkled around all of Britain, and particularly in Scotland or in my case the remotest mountain area of Wales.. So, even though 90 percent of the ancient British were replaced in theory, their DNA is still around. One of the theories is that the ancient British cremated their dead, and thus there are far fewer burials. Still, because the gene is fairly uncommon and generally found in remote parts of Britain, the theory still seems sound. Far more beaker inheritance (The R1b? gene) is around today.
The ancient British were never dark skinned like the “intellectuals” love to claim today.
Very interesting topic, it’s really fascinating that long after these people have passed we know so much about they’re ways of life
Really enjoyed this, great theory and I hope more archaeology happens to prove it out
At the age of 12 I (🇩🇪) visited England ( with my parents of course) for the first time. My mothers sister had married an English army officer, he was a fine gentleman, I liked him very much. We saw everything , I mean literally all points of interest in London and southern England including of course Stonehenge. Boy that was impressing. My first thought was how they could have managed this and why some thousand + years later the Celtic and Germanic tribes were still so much behind the Romans. A miracle, an enigma if you asked me. So I was excited to hear what you would present in this video.
Amazing vid as usual!
I hit the thumbs up and subscribed well done sir
New favorite channel.
You did many good videos!
Great video. Your intro is so relaxing
4:40 love the way you quote him.
Very interesting. Subbed! 👍🏼
Quite interesting, Thank you!
Great Vid! 💚
Thank you very much!
Very Indo European indeed.
@@wireshrub and i likely have viking on top of that
brilliant document.
I'm quite interested in your research on Stonehenge and the area . I wish that I would have had this information while I was there
Thank you for a great video you are spot about the beaker people being our ancestors great work.
www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5413607/Neolithic-farmers-wiped-Beaker-people.html
I visited the Orkney standing stones in 2016. I wonder how they fit into your narrative?Good video by the way.
Excellent video. I enjoy your more realistic theories about migration. Thank you
This video makes me miss England so much. Always admired Stonehenge from a distance on the back from LHR, can't wait to get the chance to visit it and the surrounding barrows in the future. Ever since I read the Barrow downs section LotR I've been fascinated with them.
Same!! Especially with the mention of Barrow Downs
Absolutely fascinating.
Fantatic video!
Great video. Have you read on Eurogenes of the recent genetic discoveries made about Steppe Maykop?
yeh
It seems to be quite the nail in the coffin for those claiming that R1b-M269 and PIE came from south of the Caucasus Mountains. There is a division between Maykop and Steppe Maykop, with the latter being R1a/R1b and Q1a. Steppe Maykop also has excessive ANE, related in some form to Neolithic Western Siberian Hunter Gatherers (WSHG) and Native Americans. The former Maykop is mostly Y-DNA L, with some T and a sprinkling of G and J.
Simon Stevin it was made quite clear in the Wang preprint last year no geneflow from Maykop into the eneolithic steppe piedmont ever occurred. Maykop simply had too much Anatolian and Levant neolithic admixture which wasn’t seen in the steppe. It was never in any doubt it had nothing at all to do with PIE, yet they still continue with this ridiculous ‘tracer dye’ theory of CHG (or Iran_N?) being a vector for PIE. Yamnaya was a fairly homogeneous population with no signs of recent admixture, it’s impossible PIE came from Armenia/NW Iran.
Excellent video and I agree with the points raised. I lived near Stonehenge and Avebury for many years and always thought it was a place of power, politics, wealth, as well as to do with water and of course astronomical alignments.
The Salisbury plains act as a barrier between both sites and today is used as a military firing range. So its feasible that the area also centred on war and battles. So it is interesting about the Beaker people coming in at the end of megalithic building.
Great work and a refreshing change from archeologists that think that Stonehenge was populated by dreadlocked hippy types that had festivals thousands of years ago!
Your work is respected and awesome. Thank you from the USA
The british isles have a unique and interesting early history, but as far as the whole of Europe is concerned, I don't buy Gimbutas' openly feminist theory that the Indo-Europeans introduced patriarchy and warlikeness, especially when the militia cultures of the Greco-Romans (who were mostly of neolithic/Pelasgian descent) memed the Indo-European Scythians for their elevated role of women in politics and warfare, and made similar references about the Celts and North Germanic tribes. The ethos of the "matriarchal mother earth goddess" claim is the existence of depictions of women, as if that's all they find, or they reference the kind of pre-aryan mountain tribes you encountered in India as if they're neolithic Europeans.
You're probably right. The neolithics wouldn't have been as successful as they were for as long as they were if they hadn't been patriarchal and warlike - those are pretty much the foundations of any successful culture.
Manky Scotch Git
Well to be intellectually honest and fair, there are currently existing ‘modern’ human populations like the Bropka, Garo, Himba, Akan and Kurds that don’t live according to established, time-tested and historically proven patriarchal ways yet are rather successful, within their respective societal+ecological contexts that is. “Soft” and “Hard” patriarchal models do seem to be best for most State-societies though, at least since the days of Classical civilization.
@@snowfrosty1 Those peoples never got to the level of expansion and advancement of the neolithic Europeans. The kurds are patriarchal
Solid Snek
Hence I stated “within their respective societal+ecological contexts”, you are correct about the Kurds though. Thank you for the correction 👍.
Behind every successful war band of men, are powerful women keeping Chad company at home.
Women have always lead from the rear.
Build it and they will come.
We never learn :)
Excellent video. I especially like the mannerbund idea as part of the reason why the Bell Beaker people became our most significant contributors to the modern English gene pool. I had always supposed that more of my genes came from the builders of Stonehenge, since I come from the West Country, but I'll settle for 10% or so and the rest IE.
Across the waters you say, how about Doggerland, the landmass now underneath the ocean- now Doggerbank? Buried when the tsunami after Storegga slide hit.
doggerland hadn't existed for thousands of years nor had the hunter gatherers who lived there
@@Survivethejive did you not say 5000 years ago?
Dogger land began to slowly sink around 10,000 BC. Many of the individuals there likely began migrating out as the waterline pressed inland. By the time of the Storegga slide/ tsunami, Doggerland was then just an island called Doggerbank. Storegga wiped it out instantly with an 80 foot tall tsunami. The date for this is approximately 6100 BC. The Yamnaya/Beaker Invasion began some 2000 years after Doggerbank was long submerged. One interesting thing here is that, to my knowledge, the Neolithic mega builders just seemed to have appeared over night with not much transitionary sites showing the development of the technology and practice. It is very similar to Gobekli Tepe. Perhaps Jive can provide something on that. So it is possible that the people's of Doggerland could have influenced the Neolithic people's of Britain and continental Europe. But is also possible for the Anatolians who built Gobekli Tepe to have carried with them the practice of stone circle construction. Unfortunately it is probably something we can never know because of 400 foot sea level rise occurring from 12500-10000 BC, the devastating Tsunami, and limits of underwater archaeology. However it is amazing to see the diversity of megafauna and tool assemblages that the trollers pull up. That place was seemingly a paradise for Hunter Gatherers.
@@GuroJeromeTeague new study shows megalith building begins in Britanny just as farming arrives with the Neolithic peoples. then the trend spreads out from there
@@Survivethejive Thanks Jive. I have a BA in History and Anthropology (focus on Human Bioarchaeology) I have been out of school since 2011 and do not work in either field as you can tell by most of my youtube content. The last 10 years of archaeological discovery and the acceptance of what were called fringe theories in my program have got my head spinning. It is so much to keep up with. LOL. I just saw the other day that the Solutrean hypothesis is being accepted now as an additional models of migration to the New World. European Hunter Gatherers arrived and settled in sections of the US some 10,000 years before the Asiatic ancestors of the modern Native American groups.
Thanks for all the work you do!
Great video Tom. Your channel is an absolute goldmine (beware incoming Beaker takeover)
One must download and keep all your vids in case entities such as the ADL decides to have your videos erased!
All on Odysee too
Thanks!
So interesting!!
Amazing video. I had never heard the term Männerbund before. I've also seen a lot of stuff about Stonehenge and never knew that stones were re-arranged. I knew the Romans knocked stones over to vandalize it.
Renaissance Horizon it was also renovated in the 1920s and late 50's. I think there are photos of what they looked like prior to this on line.
Love that picture of Ava at 1:15. We have the same mitochondrial Haplogroup markers.
She looks just like one of my nieces.
Ava has since been coloured darker and now she looks like another one of my nieces.
Great videos....Ontario Canada
Fantastic video. What language do you think the Bell Beaker people of the Lower Rhine, the bulk of the invading culture as I understand it, spoke?
some late form of Indo-European which we will never know
Their languages must have varied significantly across time and place. They probably never thought of themselves as a single people.
Excellent
very interesting indeed
I know this is an older video but I just recently found your channel. But could not the two individuals who you state were in the British Isles also have been born from women taken in Raids, much as the Vikings did, thousands of years later.
Perhaps we are seeing the genetic effects of generational raiding?
Possibly!
The stone with the hole in the center look like an arrow straightener.
Ceremonial hatchet? Would a VIP of the time be using arrows?
Do you have any of the error analysis on the PCA and comparisons with out groups?
Canny interesting that, mate.
Your brillant and wery 🕵️♂️helpfuul
Cherrs mate 🍻
That mannerbund thing is brilliant
Very educating UA-cam. Mostly agreed with the reasoning
Very Bell-Beakery.