Thank you for posting this, I remember buying VHS tape on ebay of this, in case I needed it!! But, I read the book, and a month later --all pain gone!! Sometimes I have to revisit his book and the 12 reminders. He changed my life. I will forever be thankful and try to share this with people. To think back in 2005 The ER doctor told me I'd never exercise again! That I had degenerative disc disease! I am 70 now! Play racquetball 4 x week, swim, lift weights, Elicptical, etc. ER doctor----so WRONG!!!
I'm in chronic nerve pain also with tingling and loose controle of my leg or arm. The neurologist never could find anything only a small spine in my neck, to narrow, whiplash hernia and trauma fysical abuse. Doctors only give me pain killers and never look at the root of the disorder of mind and body
I have been paralised one year ago after fysical abuse even in a wheelchair on the chronic pain fybromialgy also. I know there is more in my brain that is the ground of the pain
Right! Unfortunately, this will NEVER make main stream medical practice. Think about all the professions that will no longer be required if this was well known. So it will never become main stream treatment. That is very sad!
@ but we shouldn’t stop from at least disseminating this information. Rest it’s up to people to decide what they want to do with it. I can guarantee on my life - just 30 minutes of yoga, pranayama, physical exercise will keep you so fit - you’ll never need any medicine ever in life. But the problem is this will send the whole medical and pharmaceutical industries to the dry cleaners so they’ll never let it be known to and clearly understood by the people
Thank you Dr. Sarno. You were so right but the medical community doesn’t care about your great discovery. I had a horrible nerve pain and the cause of it was my emotions, the pain started when I had a strong emotional reaction to something my mother did. I didn’t realized it then but after 3 years of suffering I found you. May your soul be with the Lord.
I’m ecstatic to have found this video. I was a patient of Dr. Sarno over 20 years ago. I went to his seminar, purchased this when it was in VHS format and still continue to reread his books anytime something plagues me. I call The Mindbody Prescription my medical bible. I bless Dr. Sarno everyday for helping me. I only wish more medical professionals would continue his work.
Wow, that's so cool! So you actually met Sarno? When you went to his seminar did he give you a study guide? Everyone always asks about this mythical study guide.
It was a day long project. I went to his office in NYU hospital. He first physically examined me and then I sat in his office and we talked for over an hour. Later that day I came back and went to his seminar. It was actually funny to watch him throw people out. He wasn’t there to convince anyone of his theory only to further educate. I believe we all have the power to create and cure any disease. Dr. Sarno has been a blessing to me.
Basically. It reminds you that upon the first sign of any pain to remember it’s not physical it’s in your brain. And the simplest thing but hardest to implement. Forget about it. The more you do to try to alleviate pain- medication, therapies of any kind or even resting are all counterintuitive. Forget about whatever it is and go about your life. Hope this helps!
I have lost a whole year (2023) to SCIATICA! The MRI shows damage to L-4 /L-5. My doctor has scheduled a FUSION. There is a saying that describes my AHHA moment: when the student is ready.. the teacher will appear! Thank you for posting this video!! I now know what got me here!
Sciatica of 10 years went over night mate absolutely mental I spent $1000s of dollars before this specialists, steroids and just specialist after specialist gone mate with this guy he’s a genius ❤
Wonderful. My daughter went to him. After the live lecture, she never complained about back pain after cringing everytime she called me. Now when she called it was all good!
I saw John Stossel's 20/20 interview with Dr. Sarno on his show one day. I had just been to the San Antonio Spurs orthopedics team, and went back to Alaska to work. I had been diagnosed with a torn rotator cuff in my right shoulder, severe arthritis in my left, and L4 and L5 was bone on bone and sciatica was terrible. I was given celebrex, which has a side effect of death. So the next morning I had put the celebrex in a daily organizer. I had a very high stress job, and in the morning I was talking to one of my people up in Prudhoe Bay on the phone, dealing with a problem on the computer and had an engineer at my desk asking for help and orders. During all this I picked up the prescription bottle and took a celebrex pill for my escalating pain. When things calmed down for a moment, I looked at the pill organizer to make sure I didn't take two and I had! At that moment, the pain ramped up so intense that I couldn't move, much less get out of my chair. That's when I said out loud to my brain, "Busted!" Because taking too much pain med would not cause MORE intense pain immediately! All the pain instantly was gone. This was about 12 years ago, and I have read all Dr. Sarno's books, etc. It has never come back. If any pain starts, I can mentally stop it. Thank God for Dr. Sarno. I never had surgery, don't need painkillers.
I cannot answer for him, but you can look Dr Sarno's 12 reminders on UA-cam. Also you can look up his book "healing back pain" - there's a free audio version on UA-cam read as a lecture by Dr Sarno himself.
In simple words... Pain is not an outcome of the body structure at all. Body structure is all about efficiency and pain is all about psychology. Amazing thing to observe and bring up.
Thank you for posting this. I watched this 5 years ago and it changed my life even more than the book Healing Back Pain.. but then it was gone from UA-cam and I haven't been able to find it again until today. So grateful!
Man, dr dar-nos book changes my life. Having my first flare up since the first time I read it months ago so thought I’d come and listen - thank you so much for uploading. His recent book mentions even psychology isnt necessarily needed, some updates but wow what a man
Reading Dr. Sarno's books helped me. Periodically I get new symptoms of pain. I always try to review his books. Thanks for sharing this. I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Myofascial Pain Syndrome. I suffered for years starting from 1980. I don't like to go to doctors with pain symptoms..
Hi all, Greetings from Spain. I have been diagnosed with Trocanteritis and i suffer from hip pain since 3 years ago. Yesterday they infiltrated me i guess corticoids, and today i didn't feel pain, i even smile for the first time in years, and i bumped into this Dr. That talks about TMS, i will follow him up. Thanks a lot
Wow, go to 1:33, so true!! And boy. Yes, i still deal with being a perfectionist. I have issues, but don't we all? I have learned to hug what you have, go and be a blessing ..life is so short.
I am always amazed at people who get better after hearing his lecture in reading his books. The people who are treating TMS in the mind body world, say that’s very rare. But I read these comments and I see it’s not so rare at all.
Thank you so much I’m in the process of reading The Divided Mind, so glad I found dr Sarnos lecture here. I’ve been in pain on and off for 4 years now and only last month I finally learned about TMS. Wish me success in treatment, i so wanna be rid off the pain!
Dr Sarno’s work is the real deal and it works. It helped me, my husband, and some of our friends. I just watched our DVD this week for back pain that popped up and it’s fading and I’m feeling better. This method works. But you have to believe it for it to work.
What a brilliant lecture. I can't help but feel sad he has passed away. His legacy is, however, extraordinary. I am reading The Divided Mind, and it's mind-blowing. Does anyone have a copy of the study guide? Thank you for uploading this lecture.
Hi, I’m reading the divided mind now too. What is the study guide you talk about? Also is there a Facebook group or something for people like me who struggle with pain that has no physical origins ? In the book dr sarno says that group meetings can help, but i live in Perth in Australia and no one really does psychosomatic medicine here.. Any link will help
Dr. Sarno stated that if the certain part of the body that is in pain was the source, then it would hurt all the time. Well, I have pain 24/7 for 2 years, no diagnosis. 6 doctors, 6 CT scans 3-4 ultrasound, 2 x rays, 1 MRI. Started in my right flank. Now also to the front right ab, next to bellybutton. Then right rib along the back. Now left flank and back along the waist. My skin on my arms and legs feels weird when I press. Slight tingling on and off. Emotionally zapped! Exhausted! I absolutely believe this all started with trauma in 2013 and more to follow for the next decade. Peace to all suffering. 🙏
Were you able to heal with Dr Sarno’s method or are you saying it was ineffective in treating your pain? I couldn’t understand your message. Regardless I wish you speedy recovery from all your pain and grief!
@@dwivedys Sorry about that. I was just wondering if my situation would benefit from his method. My pain is same 24/7. I actually just found his videos, so new to all this. Thank you for the encouragement.
@@Mrs.C-6721 okay now I understand. If you permit me to venture a statement - you’ll absolutely heal. While I am no Dr Sarno - I know about his method and I try it all the time. But I have a slightly different thought process as well. You’ll heal not just because as you deal with your (supposedly repressed) emotions (if any) - that may be at the root of the pain - that effort itself will trigger the healing process instantly; however, I also believe that we are made out of “nothing” (the whole universe indeed is) and hence we are foremost “nothjng”. If you go back to the primal, pristine nothingness there’s no pain anywhere because pain needs a substrate to act on. Knowing that we are energy ourselves - it becomes an exercise in managing our energies and emotions to let them do the healing. All pain is a manifestation of something amiss in the nervous pathways. That’s what Dr Sarno also said and a few others like Gurdjieff (who had a similar teaching) have said. So good luck with your healing and hopefully very soon I’ll see you come back here and say that you’ve conquered your pain and are free from it 🙏😊
In his book, it says “ Start with 41 hour lectures, we evolved to two two-hour sessions, the first of which is devoted to the physiology and diagnosis of TMS and the second to the psychology of TMS and treatment(P.72).” Is there another lecture? Thank you
Hi, This lecture contains both the physiology of TMS and its psychology and treatment. In The Divided Mind, Sarno's last book, its mentioned that he delivers the entire lecture in one evening. Maybe Sarno changed his delivery of the material over time. At the very least, I'm not aware of another Sarno lecture that is available online.
Thank you so much for uploading you’re the best. I want to share to a person that doesn’t speak English I am wondering how on some videos we can activate automatic subtitles in other languages, will look into it. Huge thanks again 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Here is a bladder pain success story from TMSWiki. www.tmswiki.org/forum/threads/bladder-pain-healed-100.18579/ You could also make a post there or contact a TMS practitioner for more information if you'd like.
Did Dr sarno ever say that it's a possibility asthma is a TMS syndrome ? I thought i remember in his book healing back pain there was a short paragraph that he believed asthma was possibly TMS.
Thanks for uploading ! I have for the most part cured my back pain thanks to Dr. Sarno's work. I have more recently developed elbow pains, tendonitis - my main problem now however - I know it may be TMS but what if it's physical causes ?? I have been putting my arms and elbows through a lot recently, extreme overuse in terms of repetitive moments, heavy lifting etc. Any advice if elbow pain, tendonitis is more likely TMS or actual physical injuries ?
Sarno would always examine people to make sure there's no physical injury before they proceeded with his program. Of course there are some physicians out there who will assume that any pain must be physical problem, so we have to be careful on that front. So there are TMS physicians out there who can be seen in person or online. TMSwiki.org has a directory of them on the site and may provide the answer you're after.
@@gustavtms Thanks mate. Yes, that's why I'm weary of going to regular GP, if I complain about the pain - chances are I'll be told that it must be physical causes, that being said they were wrong about my spine so they could easily be wrong about my elbows now as well. I'll see to post on TMSwiki. At one point in the lecture Dr. Sarno does say however that MOST tendonitis is TMS, that gives me hope plus fact I know I had TMS with my spine and cured it as TMS. I'd like to treat it same way as did the spine but I worry if the cause is physical that then I could further injure my tendons, it's the only reason why I'm currently resting my arm, giving it more time before coming to conclusions or seeing anyone.
Yes! You have to commit. I could only accept once I had ruled out other options. Maybe you are still holding on to a few other 'normal' diagnosis paths and you can finish those out, see if they are dead ends, and come back to Dr. Sarno if that's what you need to give it your full focus. Put the time in to put your health first! I know our health system doesn't make it easy
Hi. That's a good question. I don't think Sarno's study guide discussed in this video is in his books, although his books do kind of function as study guides themselves. There are structured TMS programs listed here though: www.tmswiki.org/ppd/Structured_TMS_recovery_programs
@@anne8511 Oh, sorry, I think you're right! I just looked at my copy of The Divided Mind and in the chapter called "Treatment" Sarno does walk you through the program he used. I forgot!
I literally have or have had every single one of those symptoms he has mentioned(except for, of course, prostatitis😂, being a female)…I’ve given up on our doctors and broken healthcare system…I have never met a single healthcare practitioner that has mentioned anything along the lines Dr Sarno says throughout this very educational video…this man makes way more sense than anyone or anything I have come across for the many ailments I have been suffering from for almost 40 years! I wish he were still with us😢
Hi, I'm not sure it's publicly available anymore. Someone commented that they actually attended one of Sarno's lectures, got a study guide, and that the information in the guide is basically the same information in his books, which makes sense because his books themselves are essentially study guides. In his book The Divided Mind he outlines his treatment program but that information is basically in his other books as well.
@@Safia555 these are rare side effects that have really damaged the nervous system, cellular mitochondria, and put people in wheel chairs. I have a hard time walking. Fluoroquinolones, in my case ciprofloxacin, damage people far worse than most antibiotics gut issues.
Sarno says that knowledge is the "penicillin" of chronic pain/TMS with no structural cause. It's basically learning more about TMS that can resolve it. Watching the lecture here, reading one of his books. There's also TMS programs and partitioners for those who wish for a more structured or personal approach.
Hi, I'm not sure it's publicly available anymore. Someone commented that they actually attended one of Sarno's lectures, got a study guide, and that the information in the guide is basically the same information in his books, which makes sense because his books themselves are essentially study guides. In his book The Divided Mind he outlines his treatment program but that information is basically in his other books as well.
Dr. Sarnos, five years ago I had my fourth and final back surgery. I had a TLFF done. I was doing well but I fell on my driveway and snapped one of the titanium off in my hip. Since I have been in chronic pain and using opioid medicine to deal with this pain. Dr, do you believe that your methods can help me?
@@alisa8796it looks like the 80’s to me - the styles of dress hair etc and Dr. Sarno’s approximate age at that time. He died in 2017 at age 93 No way he’s in his 70’s here. I’d say it was 1980’s or early 90’s.
@@NEChristooh yeah true... even more disturbing, HOW could this has been known for so long and still everyone get told lies by doctors... can't believe it
I wonder if anyone here has an idea if a Baker's Cyst (a fluid-filled swelling at the back of the knee) could be linked to TMS as well? (Thank you so much for sharing this video!)
Sarno gives the layout of his study guide is his book The Divided Mind. It's not like a workbook or anything but the directions that he used to give people.
Only you can truly know what type of pain you have and what is causing it. And to find that out you have to reconnect with your body/system, your senses, your intuition, your higher self, all of it. Getting out of your mind and in to your body. By practicing yoga, meditation, journaling, breathwork, singing/chanting, slowing down, connect with nature, be still and observe. Rediscover the world and yourself, like a child, without mental interference.
Anyone have epilepsy/seizure disorder? My youngest son who is an adult, was a difficult labor and delivery and ended up in neonatal ICU. They think he had a stroke after being born. He was stabilized, but began having seizures and subsequently they put him on medication. Having had three older children, I knew the difference in a normal newborn/infant and a drunk one from the medication. I read about the side effects, actually talk to a nurse who confirmed it. The medication doesn’t mean they expect he’s going to have a seizure, but if his brain starts to, it was supposed to keep it from happening. I decided to wean him off which I did and he never had another seizure until he was 18 years old. He has no other major health problems, except some blindness in one eye. After he had his a seizure 18, he didn’t have another one for a year. The following year he had seizure 2 to 3 times and finally went to a neurologist to put him on medication. From that point until the time he was 30 he has had 2 to 3 a year. Several years ago, his medication didn’t seem to be working anymore and he was having anxiety for unknown reasons and they changed his medication and it started working again. Now he’s back to you very few per year…I’m wondering if the trauma from birth/stroke, and some tough life stressors hes been through (who hasnt) is the reason for the occasional seizures-(grand mal), & if his brain still remembers the difficult labor/delivery and early childhood life stressors, he watched in the family…They say most people with epilepsy have a trigger , but we have not found one. Everything is calm and normal when one occurs..there is that small aeea of scar tissue on the brain and no abnormalities on an MRI. Anyone with some experience etc?
I have a plethora of these aches and pains. Am I angry. Do I know about rage? Absolutely. In my case, it is all but unconscious. On the contrary it is almost always at the surface and I have a tough time trying to shut it up. I am totally aware of my rage and the extent of it. So where do I stand?
Maybe as he has said somewhere: start writing down things 20’ morning and evenings. Write 3 columns. One about childhood difficulties One about present difficulties One about personality traits that may contribute to your pain. Keep doing this. It’s called journal speaking. The writing acts as a pressure cooker release.
What an amazing man! If only so many doctors and particularly psychiatrists, weren't so brainwashed. Unfortunately, it's all about power, money and big pharm. They like that way.❤
Hi. Sarno kind of gives an outline of his study guide/program in his book The Divided Mind. But really all his books are study guides. The literal guide that he presumably gave out to people who saw him or attended his lectures, I'd love to have a copy of that but I don't know who has it.
I have to figure out a way around that. In the meantime someone else posted the video here, maybe it has less ads? rumble.com/v3l1gc7-dr.-john-sarno-video-lecture-on-tms.html
Steve Ozanich (a descendant of Sarno) briefly mentions autonomic dysfunction as TMS in his book The Great Pain Deception. Ozanich has a website. You can contact him for more information if you’d like.
Dr. Sarno says in this lecture that he hasn't had a patient with both anxiety and TMS at the same time. I have severe anxiety and panic attacks, along with what I thought were TMS and its equivalents. Does this mean I probably don't actually have TMS since I also have anxiety? I've had anxiety for years before the TMS symptoms started, but I still struggle with it.
It certainly could be, yes. Sarno always talked about the importance of ruling out any structural issue first and then, if all clear, the pain can be approached as TMS.
Regarding pain, when a person is just getting back in to shape, wouldnt they have sore muscles? That wouldnt be due to TMS. Or at least it shouldnt be.
@@darrend2035for sure I have had these years ago constant but now it's fybromyalgia more perfectionist more pain fear for myself find reason why after sins diagnosis asperger's.aka.ultra perfectionist
@@gustavtms thanks . I am in protracted psychiatric drug withdrawal - in my 8th year off... prednisone anal creams reactivated all symptoms of previous early psych drugs wd- im in my 7th week off - I am so bad ....
Interstitial cystitis, burning, pelvic floor muscle tension so many women in the last 20 years plus being diagnosed with this I find it used to be people in the mid-30s when I got it now it’s people in their 20s. I got mine back when there was no UA-cam,After running out of money because the only effective physical therapist I work with wouldn’t take my insurance, I also had fibromyalgia so I had trigger point therapy three times a week for $130 a pop, long story short I got off the Internet I stopped researching I stopped all treatment. I made a life change left my partner. Who knows maybe it’s a combo of things but I got better I’d say 50% within a month,And then it was little by little until now I’m left with muscle tension but no pain but the muscle tension is nothing like it was before I don’t really feel it most of the time I get flareups occasionally I don’t pay much attention to them they go away.
I wonder if somebody can answer this: regarding the brain shutting down oxygen supply (and leading to oxygen deprivation) is it possible to counteract this lack by things like “deep breathing”?
That's interesting. I think Sarno mentions in Healing Back Pain that people have tried taking oxygen to counteract the process but it didn't work. The brain will continue to reduce oxygen flow until the psychological process takes effect.
Check the Faint/Collapse/Shutdown response from the Polyvagal theory ( Porges) and cPTSD by Pete Walker, when the body can’t anymore keep the unconscious strategy to survive, it just faint You need to see how your strategy of behaviour is far from what you really feel and want, so you need to start to be conscious about it and change. I guess its similar to TMS concept
Nervioso or nerviosa, how in Spanish they describe a person with what we would call a bad temper or quick to agitate or vex. Interesting. But the nervous system and it's role is so ignored by western health and mental health. We know so little about it.
Saved me numerous times. People thought I was crazy but I'm 75 and still playing tennis exuberantly
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Years ahead of his time. A real doctor and gentleman in every sense.
Thank you for posting this, I remember buying VHS tape on ebay of this, in case I needed it!! But, I read the book, and a month later --all pain gone!! Sometimes I have to revisit his book and the 12 reminders. He changed my life. I will forever be thankful and try to share this with people. To think back in 2005 The ER doctor told me I'd never exercise again! That I had degenerative disc disease! I am 70 now! Play racquetball 4 x week, swim, lift weights, Elicptical, etc. ER doctor----so WRONG!!!
This is fully about myself right now
I'm in chronic nerve pain also with tingling and loose controle of my leg or arm. The neurologist never could find anything only a small spine in my neck, to narrow, whiplash hernia and trauma fysical abuse. Doctors only give me pain killers and never look at the root of the disorder of mind and body
I have been paralised one year ago after fysical abuse even in a wheelchair on the chronic pain fybromialgy also. I know there is more in my brain that is the ground of the pain
Tms resonates with me right now
Tms fully resonates with my muscles and nerves all the pain spread about my whole body and brain, subconscious. Influencing my automatic nerve system
You’re a legend for uploading this. I’ve wanted to see a Sarno lecture for years
:) you could have bought it from the USA $50
This video should have a billion views
Right! Unfortunately, this will NEVER make main stream medical practice. Think about all the professions that will no longer be required if this was well known. So it will never become main stream treatment. That is very sad!
@ but we shouldn’t stop from at least disseminating this information. Rest it’s up to people to decide what they want to do with it. I can guarantee on my life - just 30 minutes of yoga, pranayama, physical exercise will keep you so fit - you’ll never need any medicine ever in life. But the problem is this will send the whole medical and pharmaceutical industries to the dry cleaners so they’ll never let it be known to and clearly understood by the people
It will put ALL doctors out of business..
Thank you Dr. Sarno. You were so right but the medical community doesn’t care about your great discovery. I had a horrible nerve pain and the cause of it was my emotions, the pain started when I had a strong emotional reaction to something my mother did. I didn’t realized it then but after 3 years of suffering I found you. May your soul be with the Lord.
I’m ecstatic to have found this video. I was a patient of Dr. Sarno over 20 years ago. I went to his seminar, purchased this when it was in VHS format and still continue to reread his books anytime something plagues me. I call The Mindbody Prescription my medical bible. I bless Dr. Sarno everyday for helping me. I only wish more medical professionals would continue his work.
Wow, that's so cool! So you actually met Sarno? When you went to his seminar did he give you a study guide? Everyone always asks about this mythical study guide.
It was a day long project. I went to his office in NYU hospital. He first physically examined me and then I sat in his office and we talked for over an hour. Later that day I came back and went to his seminar. It was actually funny to watch him throw people out. He wasn’t there to convince anyone of his theory only to further educate. I believe we all have the power to create and cure any disease. Dr. Sarno has been a blessing to me.
And yes I did receive the study guide and still have it.
Thanks for sharing! I wish I had met him. Is the study guide just kind of what's in The Mindbody Prescription?
Basically. It reminds you that upon the first sign of any pain to remember it’s not physical it’s in your brain. And the simplest thing but hardest to implement. Forget about it. The more you do to try to alleviate pain- medication, therapies of any kind or even resting are all counterintuitive. Forget about whatever it is and go about your life. Hope this helps!
I have lost a whole year (2023) to SCIATICA! The MRI shows damage to L-4 /L-5. My doctor has scheduled a FUSION. There is a saying that describes my AHHA moment: when the student is ready.. the teacher will appear! Thank you for posting this video!! I now know what got me here!
Do this work first! My 30 year on again off again sciatica is no more.
Sciatica of 10 years went over night mate absolutely mental I spent $1000s of dollars before this specialists, steroids and just specialist after specialist gone mate with this guy he’s a genius ❤
How is it going?
Wonderful. My daughter went to him. After the live lecture, she never complained about back pain after cringing everytime she called me. Now when she called it was all good!
I saw John Stossel's 20/20 interview with Dr. Sarno on his show one day. I had just been to the San Antonio Spurs orthopedics team, and went back to Alaska to work. I had been diagnosed with a torn rotator cuff in my right shoulder, severe arthritis in my left, and L4 and L5 was bone on bone and sciatica was terrible. I was given celebrex, which has a side effect of death. So the next morning I had put the celebrex in a daily organizer. I had a very high stress job, and in the morning I was talking to one of my people up in Prudhoe Bay on the phone, dealing with a problem on the computer and had an engineer at my desk asking for help and orders. During all this I picked up the prescription bottle and took a celebrex pill for my escalating pain. When things calmed down for a moment, I looked at the pill organizer to make sure I didn't take two and I had! At that moment, the pain ramped up so intense that I couldn't move, much less get out of my chair. That's when I said out loud to my brain, "Busted!" Because taking too much pain med would not cause MORE intense pain immediately! All the pain instantly was gone. This was about 12 years ago, and I have read all Dr. Sarno's books, etc. It has never come back. If any pain starts, I can mentally stop it. Thank God for Dr. Sarno. I never had surgery, don't need painkillers.
I think I don't understand how you managed to alleviate your pain. Can you say it in simpler words please??
I cannot answer for him, but you can look Dr Sarno's 12 reminders on UA-cam. Also you can look up his book "healing back pain" - there's a free audio version on UA-cam read as a lecture by Dr Sarno himself.
Wow! It gives me so much hope. Thank you for sharing!
In simple words... Pain is not an outcome of the body structure at all. Body structure is all about efficiency and pain is all about psychology. Amazing thing to observe and bring up.
The video that saved my life 2 yrs ago. Absolute respect
Thank you for posting this. I watched this 5 years ago and it changed my life even more than the book Healing Back Pain.. but then it was gone from UA-cam and I haven't been able to find it again until today. So grateful!
Realized I’ve had TMS since childhood and it has plagued me in so many ways. I’m so excited to heal!!! God bless Dr. Sarno
Thank you so much for this video. I downloaded it for posterity.
You're welcome -- and good idea.
Man, dr dar-nos book changes my life. Having my first flare up since the first time I read it months ago so thought I’d come and listen - thank you so much for uploading. His recent book mentions even psychology isnt necessarily needed, some updates but wow what a man
Those who have suffered great trauma, especially childhood trauma/abuse will probably need a good therapist.
Thank you so much for posting Dr Sarno’s lectures, this is wonderful.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart for uploading this.
Reading Dr. Sarno's books helped me. Periodically I get new symptoms of pain. I always try to review his books. Thanks for sharing this. I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Myofascial Pain Syndrome. I suffered for years starting from 1980. I don't like to go to doctors with pain symptoms..
Are you fybromyalgia.symptoms gone
Hi all, Greetings from Spain. I have been diagnosed with Trocanteritis and i suffer from hip pain since 3 years ago. Yesterday they infiltrated me i guess corticoids, and today i didn't feel pain, i even smile for the first time in years, and i bumped into this Dr. That talks about TMS, i will follow him up. Thanks a lot
Wow, go to 1:33, so true!! And boy. Yes, i still deal with being a perfectionist. I have issues, but don't we all? I have learned to hug what you have, go and be a blessing ..life is so short.
perfectionism create so much tension and pressure inside of us. I am the same way, but I am learning to let go of it.
I am always amazed at people who get better after hearing his lecture in reading his books. The people who are treating TMS in the mind body world, say that’s very rare. But I read these comments and I see it’s not so rare at all.
Thank you so much
I’m in the process of reading The Divided Mind, so glad I found dr Sarnos lecture here.
I’ve been in pain on and off for 4 years now and only last month I finally learned about TMS.
Wish me success in treatment, i so wanna be rid off the pain!
How is it going for you by now..? I hope you saw amazing improvement! Did you like the Divided Mind too? I will go look at that.
Share with us..how you feel now?
All these people in that era were so genuine and willing to listen, every question the asked was so on point, makes me speechless.
NOT the era! The ones chosen for the group. Those open to the TMS diagnosis.
The questions feel a bit too perfect and on time- prepared for the recording probably. 😀
What a treat! I have always wanted to hear one of his lectures and never had the luxury. Thank you for posting! 🙏🏻
This lecture should be apart of our curriculum for those who want to go into the healthcare system
Yes but it wont due to $$$ not wanting to heal people just prescribe medication and surgeries. My opinion
Dr Sarno’s work is the real deal and it works. It helped me, my husband, and some of our friends. I just watched our DVD this week for back pain that popped up and it’s fading and I’m feeling better. This method works. But you have to believe it for it to work.
What a brilliant lecture. I can't help but feel sad he has passed away. His legacy is, however, extraordinary. I am reading The Divided Mind, and it's mind-blowing. Does anyone have a copy of the study guide? Thank you for uploading this lecture.
Hi, I’m reading the divided mind now too. What is the study guide you talk about? Also is there a Facebook group or something for people like me who struggle with pain that has no physical origins ? In the book dr sarno says that group meetings can help, but i live in Perth in Australia and no one really does psychosomatic medicine here..
Any link will help
You may wish to check out tmswiki.org. It's an information resource and forum.
Pain Free You
@@martinmosna2732Pain Free You
@@gustavtms thank you
Gosh his voice relaxed me and put me to sleep, wonderful video
He his just like my grandfather
Me too! I fell asleep so peacefully watching this.
Same here, I guess it was hypnotise and suggestion
Thank you so much for uploading
HELL yeah this is awesome. If anyone happens to have the workbook he references that would be amazing! 🙌🙌
Thank you so much for uploading this. It is absolutely brilliant.
Dr. Sarno stated that if the certain part of the body that is in pain was the source, then it would hurt all the time.
Well, I have pain 24/7 for 2 years, no diagnosis.
6 doctors, 6 CT scans 3-4 ultrasound, 2 x rays, 1 MRI.
Started in my right flank. Now also to the front right ab, next to bellybutton. Then right rib along the back. Now left flank and back along the waist.
My skin on my arms and legs feels weird when I press. Slight tingling on and off.
Emotionally zapped! Exhausted!
I absolutely believe this all started with trauma in 2013 and more to follow for the next decade.
Peace to all suffering. 🙏
Were you able to heal with Dr Sarno’s method or are you saying it was ineffective in treating your pain? I couldn’t understand your message. Regardless I wish you speedy recovery from all your pain and grief!
@@dwivedys Sorry about that.
I was just wondering if my situation would benefit from his method.
My pain is same 24/7.
I actually just found his videos, so new to all this.
Thank you for the encouragement.
@@Mrs.C-6721 okay now I understand. If you permit me to venture a statement - you’ll absolutely heal. While I am no Dr Sarno - I know about his method and I try it all the time. But I have a slightly different thought process as well.
You’ll heal not just because as you deal with your (supposedly repressed) emotions (if any) - that may be at the root of the pain - that effort itself will trigger the healing process instantly; however, I also believe that we are made out of “nothing” (the whole universe indeed is) and hence we are foremost “nothjng”.
If you go back to the primal, pristine nothingness there’s no pain anywhere because pain needs a substrate to act on. Knowing that we are energy ourselves - it becomes an exercise in managing our energies and emotions to let them do the healing.
All pain is a manifestation of something amiss in the nervous pathways. That’s what Dr Sarno also said and a few others like Gurdjieff (who had a similar teaching) have said.
So good luck with your healing and hopefully very soon I’ll see you come back here and say that you’ve conquered your pain and are free from it 🙏😊
He said if it were in the same spot. Your pain is moving.
In his book, it says “ Start with 41 hour lectures, we evolved to two two-hour sessions, the first of which is devoted to the physiology and diagnosis of TMS and the second to the psychology of TMS and treatment(P.72).” Is there another lecture? Thank you
Hi,
This lecture contains both the physiology of TMS and its psychology and treatment. In The Divided Mind, Sarno's last book, its mentioned that he delivers the entire lecture in one evening. Maybe Sarno changed his delivery of the material over time. At the very least, I'm not aware of another Sarno lecture that is available online.
He was and his team brilliant
thank you for uploading this
Thank you Dr. Sarno.
Thank you so much for uploading you’re the best. I want to share to a person that doesn’t speak English I am wondering how on some videos we can activate automatic subtitles in other languages, will look into it. Huge thanks again 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Hi, yeah, let me know if you find something out. I looked into it briefly and could not find a clear answer.
1:46:47, I remember when we used to say On a daily basis. Now we just say daily.
Love yourself. That's the message.
Thanks for uploading this here 👍
What about chronic bladder pain when tests are negative ?
Here is a bladder pain success story from TMSWiki. www.tmswiki.org/forum/threads/bladder-pain-healed-100.18579/ You could also make a post there or contact a TMS practitioner for more information if you'd like.
It's awesome wisdom. The questions seem somewhat arranged, though 🤔
Yes they're probably staged, but the content overall is genuine I believe.
Did Dr sarno ever say that it's a possibility asthma is a TMS syndrome ? I thought i remember in his book healing back pain there was a short paragraph that he believed asthma was possibly TMS.
Howard Schubiner has an email address on his website (just Google his name). He'd be able to provide you with a response.
Yes, it can be. I'd guess the majority of asthma is.
Wow ! So enlightening, makes absolute sense!!
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Thank you for the upload 🤗
Thanks for uploading ! I have for the most part cured my back pain thanks to Dr. Sarno's work. I have more recently developed elbow pains, tendonitis - my main problem now however - I know it may be TMS but what if it's physical causes ?? I have been putting my arms and elbows through a lot recently, extreme overuse in terms of repetitive moments, heavy lifting etc. Any advice if elbow pain, tendonitis is more likely TMS or actual physical injuries ?
Sarno would always examine people to make sure there's no physical injury before they proceeded with his program. Of course there are some physicians out there who will assume that any pain must be physical problem, so we have to be careful on that front. So there are TMS physicians out there who can be seen in person or online. TMSwiki.org has a directory of them on the site and may provide the answer you're after.
@@gustavtms Thanks mate. Yes, that's why I'm weary of going to regular GP, if I complain about the pain - chances are I'll be told that it must be physical causes, that being said they were wrong about my spine so they could easily be wrong about my elbows now as well. I'll see to post on TMSwiki. At one point in the lecture Dr. Sarno does say however that MOST tendonitis is TMS, that gives me hope plus fact I know I had TMS with my spine and cured it as TMS. I'd like to treat it same way as did the spine but I worry if the cause is physical that then I could further injure my tendons, it's the only reason why I'm currently resting my arm, giving it more time before coming to conclusions or seeing anyone.
@irishroverandthecrew Sounds like a good approach!
Great video dude
Been jumping in and out of TMS space for a while no improvement yet. I just need to commit
Yes! You have to commit. I could only accept once I had ruled out other options. Maybe you are still holding on to a few other 'normal' diagnosis paths and you can finish those out, see if they are dead ends, and come back to Dr. Sarno if that's what you need to give it your full focus. Put the time in to put your health first! I know our health system doesn't make it easy
@@TheCorporateGardenerwhat have you cured I've so many diagnosis it's like religions they can't all be right
So much incredible informations !!! Thank u so much!
What about GERD and other digestive issues? It's not TMS, but it's psychosomatic too, at least in part.
Sarno discusses some of these things in his books and calls them TMS equivalents.
Tms is sycosomatic
@@gustavtms same as cronic dizziness that there's no explanation for
Awesome lecture! Does anyone know how to get the study guide? Is it in one of his books?
Hi. That's a good question. I don't think Sarno's study guide discussed in this video is in his books, although his books do kind of function as study guides themselves. There are structured TMS programs listed here though: www.tmswiki.org/ppd/Structured_TMS_recovery_programs
@@gustavtms This is great! Thank you so much.
@@gustavtms I read somewhere that the study guide was in his book The Divided Mind.
@@anne8511 Oh, sorry, I think you're right! I just looked at my copy of The Divided Mind and in the chapter called "Treatment" Sarno does walk you through the program he used. I forgot!
I literally have or have had every single one of those symptoms he has mentioned(except for, of course, prostatitis😂, being a female)…I’ve given up on our doctors and broken healthcare system…I have never met a single healthcare practitioner that has mentioned anything along the lines Dr Sarno says throughout this very educational video…this man makes way more sense than anyone or anything I have come across for the many ailments I have been suffering from for almost 40 years! I wish he were still with us😢
What is the date of this video? Thank you for posting it.
Looking at a couple sources, I think it's either 2000 or 2001. Someone might be able to correct me if that's not right.
So we are all Pavlovs dogs
Thank you for this lesson
Is Chronic pelvic pain syndrome/chronic non bacterial prostatitis also considered as TMS?
Howard Schubiner has an email address on his website (just Google his name). He'd be able to provide you with a response.
@@gustavtms Which website?
unlearnyourpain.com/ Email at bottom of the page.
The study guide is that in his Healing Back Pain book please?
Sarno walks you through the study guide he gave to people in his book The Divided Mind.
🙏🏻💪🏻🌼 Gratitude
Can anyone tell me where I can find the study guide?
Thanks for uploading this video! It’s life changing!
Hi, I'm not sure it's publicly available anymore. Someone commented that they actually attended one of Sarno's lectures, got a study guide, and that the information in the guide is basically the same information in his books, which makes sense because his books themselves are essentially study guides. In his book The Divided Mind he outlines his treatment program but that information is basically in his other books as well.
What about injury from antibiotics? Is that TMS too?
You need to heal your gut. Intestine suffers from antibiotics. Intestine responsible for half of the health issues. Good luck 🍀
@@Safia555 these are rare side effects that have really damaged the nervous system, cellular mitochondria, and put people in wheel chairs. I have a hard time walking. Fluoroquinolones, in my case ciprofloxacin, damage people far worse than most antibiotics gut issues.
This caused my father's CFS but I have CFS fybromyalgia not those though@@bh9262
Interesting that when I put this on I was blocked for a month my account frozen lost all my videos. Good it is surviving here.
So what does he say we do to fix it?
Sarno says that knowledge is the "penicillin" of chronic pain/TMS with no structural cause. It's basically learning more about TMS that can resolve it. Watching the lecture here, reading one of his books. There's also TMS programs and partitioners for those who wish for a more structured or personal approach.
Do you know how you can get a hold of the study guide?
Hi, I'm not sure it's publicly available anymore. Someone commented that they actually attended one of Sarno's lectures, got a study guide, and that the information in the guide is basically the same information in his books, which makes sense because his books themselves are essentially study guides. In his book The Divided Mind he outlines his treatment program but that information is basically in his other books as well.
Dr. Sarnos, five years ago I had my fourth and final back surgery. I had a TLFF done. I was doing well but I fell on my driveway and snapped one of the titanium off in my hip.
Since I have been in chronic pain and using opioid medicine to deal with this pain.
Dr, do you believe that your methods can help me?
Broke your hip
Joint has it been repaired.if so.its TMS
do you know what year was this video filmed ?
Looking at a couple sources, I think it's either 2000 or 2001.
thanks !! I thought it was in the 80s or such
@@alisa8796it looks like the 80’s to me - the styles of dress hair etc and Dr. Sarno’s approximate age at that time. He died in 2017 at age 93
No way he’s in his 70’s here. I’d say it was 1980’s or early 90’s.
@@NEChristooh yeah true... even more disturbing, HOW could this has been known for so long and still everyone get told lies by doctors... can't believe it
@@alisa8796 because big pharma can’t make any money off of it sad Dr. Sarno was a brave and compassionate soul
Thank you sir !!!!!
I wonder if anyone here has an idea if a Baker's Cyst (a fluid-filled swelling at the back of the knee) could be linked to TMS as well? (Thank you so much for sharing this video!)
This is very interesting, what if it works?
Great info John. Could you condense this into 20 minutes?
Thank you!
Thanks a lot for the upload. Is the study guide available anywhere?
Not that I'm aware of. His books however are basically designed to be study guides in and of themselves.
I like the white jacket-just in case some lab fluids splash up, I guess. 😊 No really, the lab coat and pointer are so right in this context.
What book should i start?
Healing Back Pain is my personal favourite and the book that helped me the most!
Thank you so much! God bless you
the divided mind is the advanced version, if healing back pain doesn't work. Read it until you acknowledge all the rage and psychological stuff
These questions are hilarious / canned. Still good.
I know lol so staged but it works
Is there a study guide? Or is it just the daily reminders
Sarno gives the layout of his study guide is his book The Divided Mind. It's not like a workbook or anything but the directions that he used to give people.
Has anyone had hypersensitive nerve pain ? Is it tms? Even if it’s caused by actual inflammation?
Only you can truly know what type of pain you have and what is causing it. And to find that out you have to reconnect with your body/system, your senses, your intuition, your higher self, all of it. Getting out of your mind and in to your body. By practicing yoga, meditation, journaling, breathwork, singing/chanting, slowing down, connect with nature, be still and observe. Rediscover the world and yourself, like a child, without mental interference.
Oh thanks I have The Divided Mind here!
Wow! Thank you!
What is the name of Dr. Sarno's book and how do I purchase it? Ive looked on Amazon. Its not there. Thanks
Hi. I think Sarno's book Healing Back Pain is on Amazon. You could also listen to it on UA-cam: ua-cam.com/video/ZTXjsexiDKE/v-deo.html
Anyone have epilepsy/seizure disorder? My youngest son who is an adult, was a difficult labor and delivery and ended up in neonatal ICU. They think he had a stroke after being born. He was stabilized, but began having seizures and subsequently they put him on medication.
Having had three older children, I knew the difference in a normal newborn/infant and a drunk one from the medication. I read about the side effects, actually talk to a nurse who confirmed it. The medication doesn’t mean they expect he’s going to have a seizure, but if his brain starts to, it was supposed to keep it from happening.
I decided to wean him off which I did and he never had another seizure until he was 18 years old.
He has no other major health problems, except some blindness in one eye.
After he had his a seizure 18, he didn’t have another one for a year. The following year he had seizure 2 to 3 times and finally went to a neurologist to put him on medication. From that point until the time he was 30 he has had 2 to 3 a year. Several years ago, his medication didn’t seem to be working anymore and he was having anxiety for unknown reasons and they changed his medication and it started working again. Now he’s back to you very few per year…I’m wondering if the trauma from birth/stroke, and some tough life stressors hes been through (who hasnt) is the reason for the occasional seizures-(grand mal), & if his brain still remembers the difficult labor/delivery and early childhood life stressors, he watched in the family…They say most people with epilepsy have a trigger , but we have not found one. Everything is calm and normal when one occurs..there is that small aeea of scar tissue on the brain and no abnormalities on an MRI.
Anyone with some experience etc?
I have a plethora of these aches and pains. Am I angry. Do I know about rage? Absolutely. In my case, it is all but unconscious. On the contrary it is almost always at the surface and I have a tough time trying to shut it up. I am totally aware of my rage and the extent of it. So where do I stand?
Maybe as he has said somewhere: start writing down things 20’ morning and evenings.
Write 3 columns.
One about childhood difficulties
One about present difficulties
One about personality traits that may contribute to your pain.
Keep doing this.
It’s called journal speaking.
The writing acts as a pressure cooker release.
Thank you.
What an amazing man! If only so many doctors and particularly psychiatrists, weren't so brainwashed. Unfortunately, it's all about power, money and big pharm. They like that way.❤
I wonder if this applies to TMJ pain...
Many people have resolved TMJ pain with this approach. But as Sarno always said, structural causes have to be ruled out first.
Laying in bed makes it worse. Low back and pelvic floor
Do any of you have the "study guide" he mention???? Thanks for uploading this🙏
Hi. Sarno kind of gives an outline of his study guide/program in his book The Divided Mind. But really all his books are study guides. The literal guide that he presumably gave out to people who saw him or attended his lectures, I'd love to have a copy of that but I don't know who has it.
@gustavtms it would be nice for somebody put it out there. Thanks for answering and uploading the video
This movie has so many commercial overlays by youtube, it's a bit too much
I have to figure out a way around that. In the meantime someone else posted the video here, maybe it has less ads? rumble.com/v3l1gc7-dr.-john-sarno-video-lecture-on-tms.html
Has anyone cured their POTS from his methods?
Among others, this person did: www.thepainpractitioner.com/
@@gustavtmsDoes it work for autonomic dysfunction?
Steve Ozanich (a descendant of Sarno) briefly mentions autonomic dysfunction as TMS in his book The Great Pain Deception. Ozanich has a website. You can contact him for more information if you’d like.
Dr. Sarno says in this lecture that he hasn't had a patient with both anxiety and TMS at the same time. I have severe anxiety and panic attacks, along with what I thought were TMS and its equivalents. Does this mean I probably don't actually have TMS since I also have anxiety? I've had anxiety for years before the TMS symptoms started, but I still struggle with it.
Im wondering the same thing about pppd and MdDS and vestibular migraines
Ok but what IF the pain IS coming from an actual disease??
Can TMS cause chronic Achilles issue?
It certainly could be, yes. Sarno always talked about the importance of ruling out any structural issue first and then, if all clear, the pain can be approached as TMS.
Yes.
Why are actors asking questions in this?
Regarding pain, when a person is just getting back in to shape, wouldnt they have sore muscles? That wouldnt be due to TMS. Or at least it shouldnt be.
Sarno talks a little about that in this interview: ua-cam.com/video/mzOBa-t6Vcw/v-deo.html
You can get the subconscious rage out.. Check out the book primal scream.. And the work of Dr Arthur janov
Are Migraines TMS ??
Yes. Sarno considers migraines a form of TMS and many people have resolved migraines with this mindbody approach.
I was pretty sure it was and I read the book and the pain was starting to shift but I had a relapse.
I’ve already had MRI and was fine
@@darrend2035for sure I have had these years ago constant but now it's fybromyalgia more perfectionist more pain fear for myself find reason why after sins diagnosis asperger's.aka.ultra perfectionist
Get the great pain deception from steven ozanich. It will also help a lot.
what about hormonal migrain in female ? i dont think so its real trigger @@gustavtms
Can you treat cancer (anal precancerous lesions and HPV anal virus) with Sarno method?
Steve Ozanich might be an interesting contact for you. His website is his name.
@@gustavtms thanks . I am in protracted psychiatric drug withdrawal - in my 8th year off... prednisone anal creams reactivated all symptoms of previous early psych drugs wd- im in my 7th week off - I am so bad ....
Sorry to hear this. Wishing you the best.
No harm trying, it can only help.
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Interstitial cystitis, burning, pelvic floor muscle tension so many women in the last 20 years plus being diagnosed with this I find it used to be people in the mid-30s when I got it now it’s people in their 20s. I got mine back when there was no UA-cam,After running out of money because the only effective physical therapist I work with wouldn’t take my insurance, I also had fibromyalgia so I had trigger point therapy three times a week for $130 a pop, long story short I got off the Internet I stopped researching I stopped all treatment. I made a life change left my partner. Who knows maybe it’s a combo of things but I got better I’d say 50% within a month,And then it was little by little until now I’m left with muscle tension but no pain but the muscle tension is nothing like it was before I don’t really feel it most of the time I get flareups occasionally I don’t pay much attention to them they go away.
I wonder if somebody can answer this: regarding the brain shutting down oxygen supply (and leading to oxygen deprivation) is it possible to counteract this lack by things like “deep breathing”?
That's interesting. I think Sarno mentions in Healing Back Pain that people have tried taking oxygen to counteract the process but it didn't work. The brain will continue to reduce oxygen flow until the psychological process takes effect.
Check the Faint/Collapse/Shutdown response from the Polyvagal theory ( Porges) and cPTSD by Pete Walker, when the body can’t anymore keep the unconscious strategy to survive, it just faint
You need to see how your strategy of behaviour is far from what you really feel and want, so you need to start to be conscious about it and change. I guess its similar to TMS concept
Why is it the questioners seem to keep asking the same questions, just feels staged rather than natural….🤔
Typo? Doctors trained to treat the SYMPTOMS, not the causes.
Just lift what we want to how many drs say that
i believe very strongly the existance of id. im 63 but still feel like a kid.
Of I'd?
@@Truerealism747Id - part of the mind, inner child, watch the video and you’ll see the slide that Dr shares on the structure of mind topic
Nervioso or nerviosa, how in Spanish they describe a person with what we would call a bad temper or quick to agitate or vex. Interesting. But the nervous system and it's role is so ignored by western health and mental health. We know so little about it.
I had a gut infection caused this in a very severe way. Colloidal silver cured me.
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