Just built one up in the shop, took me 4 hours, the routing from the handlebar to the junction was a absolute pain. Also because of the multiple bends within the handlebar meant shifting is not the best, at all.. So di2 it is.
Mechanical derailleurs, threaded BB shell, we are almost there, I think I'll be waiting for the Dogma F13 in 2022, hopefully then when it comes with rim brakes and square tapper... then I'm all in!!!
@@JayB-lz6yd I know... Stupid, I do not think so. Silly, maybe. Sarcastic definitely ;). I was being facetious about the "innovations" that come and go... Like the very bad idea to make press-fit BB in a molded carbon piece (that is unless you do not expect a BB to last more than one season and consider a $5000 frame a disposable item that should not last longer than a smartphone)... In the more than 40 years I ride I have seen only 3 game-changing innovations: 1. Clip on pedals (mid-80's), 2. Brifters (early 90's) and 3. Many more cassette cogs with pins, ramps and narrow flexible chains for smooth shifting (still ongoing)... the dozens of other "innovations" have been pretty much details and marketing games... Regarding disk brakes, the jury is still out but when Shimano DuraAce Di2 disk cost 10 times more and weighs the same as 105 mechanical with rim brakes, I am not so convinced it is such a wonderful innovation (though certainly good for business)...
Thank you for creating this very informative video. Unfortunately the majority of the dealers I have spoken to say that the only bar / stem you can use is The Talon Ultra which is a load of BS!
Every time they release a new product, they show the numbers on the graph, and they show the improved performance, but it doesn't mean much unless we're players. I bought F8 and have been riding well so far. However, if there is no significant change in F8 shape without any major change, Pinarello will not be considered in the forthcoming purchase.
So when and how do you cut the steerer tube? Do you pull the forks out once the cables are installed? Won't the cables be in the way when you try to slide the forks back in?
Sooo.. how do you replace the headset bearings without cutting the brake hoses every time? In the end paying more for the hose inserts again and possibly brake bleeding as well. Just seeing it from a mechanics point of view..
I prefer the two piece bar... one can fine tune the brake handle and bar angle. The one piece bar is limited. I have both. I cannot angle the brake hoods to match the angle of the arms and wrists.
Groupe mécanique sur Pinarello F12 pas top trop complexe à monter moi j'ai un Gan RS monte en sram AXS beaucoup plus simple et c'est a plus de gueule sinon super vidéo merci à toi mécanicien
As a former professional team mechanic, I can say that the F12 has been designed with marginal gains at world tour level in mind. Just like the Dogma range of the past to present, it's a race frame & so justified at the highest level to be less straight forward to work on in the cabling department. In the real world for anyone other than a professional rider, it could be seen as not to be worth the drawbacks in building, especially over the cheaper & equally very impressive F8 & F10.
Really? Looked like he was on top of it. looks like a great day in the garage to me, cycling on the TV, nice cup of coffee and spanners and Allen keys all over the place, happy days! Suppose if you're not into the mechanical aspect of cycling then it would probably be a pain in the arse though....
These cables are for the mechanical derailleurs (front and rear). The cable housing stop here, after going through the stem. Housing are holded in the metal part, and cable go through the frame, to the bottom bracket
One cutting the outer gear casing at 3.00 - 3.10 & 7.20 - 7.30 the inner wires should be pulled back through to make sure of a smooth operation, before fitting the ferruls. & zero grease used anywhere :-( It's very disappointing to see a Pinarello video not do this build correctly.
Go custom. Have just ordered I nice roadbike in 4130 steel. I'm pissed about the fragility of carbon. Had a Cracked head tube after hitting a pot hole. Why pay a lot of money in shitty fragile 5 years only (if you don't crash early) usable bikes (manufacturers don't guarantee more due to resin stuff going brittle)? Just go custom, not cheap, but it's worth it.
Ma stiamo parlando di uno strumento destinato a far divertire chi lo usa oppure di un’auto celebrazione per giustificare con sofismi inutili il prezzo di una Fiat 500...?
Finally my worries in assembling is over. Thanks to you mechanic 😊👍
Same bro.
DOGMA?
Dogma F13 is here. It is called Dogma F. Sexy like F**K
Ciao Pierò,felice di vederti
The external BB is the sexiest thing about this bike.
I was about to get my popcorn and this dude already tightening the BB holy 💩
Now i can install it by my self.. Thanks for sharing
Art in motion
Hermosa bici !!!saludos de Argentina 🏊🚴🏃🏻♂️
oh my dream bike DOGMA F12!
Watching this is a pure pleasure
This is the guy I want working on my bike.
Beautiful bike
Nicely done
True Masterpiece
Just built one up in the shop, took me 4 hours, the routing from the handlebar to the junction was a absolute pain. Also because of the multiple bends within the handlebar meant shifting is not the best, at all.. So di2 it is.
Mechanical derailleurs, threaded BB shell, we are almost there, I think I'll be waiting for the Dogma F13 in 2022, hopefully then when it comes with rim brakes and square tapper... then I'm all in!!!
are you actually that stupid? with this shell you can fit a square tapper because i did it on mine. dogma 65.1 T2. rim brakes? bwoah....
@@JayB-lz6yd I know... Stupid, I do not think so. Silly, maybe. Sarcastic definitely ;). I was being facetious about the "innovations" that come and go... Like the very bad idea to make press-fit BB in a molded carbon piece (that is unless you do not expect a BB to last more than one season and consider a $5000 frame a disposable item that should not last longer than a smartphone)... In the more than 40 years I ride I have seen only 3 game-changing innovations: 1. Clip on pedals (mid-80's), 2. Brifters (early 90's) and 3. Many more cassette cogs with pins, ramps and narrow flexible chains for smooth shifting (still ongoing)... the dozens of other "innovations" have been pretty much details and marketing games... Regarding disk brakes, the jury is still out but when Shimano DuraAce Di2 disk cost 10 times more and weighs the same as 105 mechanical with rim brakes, I am not so convinced it is such a wonderful innovation (though certainly good for business)...
@@julmeissonnier Completely agree.
Great video.Many thanks.
My dream bike❤
Il grandioso Piero!
Love that BB, well done Pinarello!
Thank you for creating this very informative video. Unfortunately the majority of the dealers I have spoken to say that the only bar / stem you can use is The Talon Ultra which is a load of BS!
Marvelous.
Wow that's awesome
Interesting to see that the brake lines install themselves! :)
oh there is another video from this guy about installing brakes
Doma is pne of the best boke ever, which is my paborite design of bike, if i have enough money, i'm sure i choose to buy dogma
Bella la f12 grande bici
The best bike.....
I love Pinarello!
Every time they release a new product, they show the numbers on the graph, and they show the improved performance, but it doesn't mean much unless we're players. I bought F8 and have been riding well so far. However, if there is no significant change in F8 shape without any major change, Pinarello will not be considered in the forthcoming purchase.
Agree, F8 was a radical change for Pinarello and a stunning bike (I own one too 😊). The F10 and 12 were/are just tweaks.
I have had the F8, F10, and F12, and each new version is superior.
I still love my F10❤
i'm still on my 65.1 T2 from 2014.
fantastic, good job
Hocam eline saglık
Sana all
So when and how do you cut the steerer tube? Do you pull the forks out once the cables are installed? Won't the cables be in the way when you try to slide the forks back in?
This guy is fast. He built a whole bike in 9 minutes
I have my F12 waiting for 12 speed dura ace. Come on Shimano!
12 speeds? Purely marketing... 90% of a bike are the wheels... very simple!
Loving Bike Yes I agree!
Sooo.. how do you replace the headset bearings without cutting the brake hoses every time? In the end paying more for the hose inserts again and possibly brake bleeding as well. Just seeing it from a mechanics point of view..
Top
I prefer the two piece bar... one can fine tune the brake handle and bar angle. The one piece bar is limited. I have both. I cannot angle the brake hoods to match the angle of the arms and wrists.
So doesn’t the two piece bar setup add extra unwanted stack then....?
you can use the 2 piece TICR option. Alu or Carbon.
how is the adjuster case used? I don't see any knobs or turning adjuster.
Finish the product?
I wish , i could have a bike too🥺.
I'm looking forward to part 2 of this video because the build is incomplete...hmmm 🤔
I think you need a suit a tie to complement the bike build
Add wing tip shoes and gloves. Now that's fitting
And a top hat with cane
And taking your time on the build, like how they make Ferrari's no rush no stress.
Is this applicable in v brake?
Groupe mécanique sur Pinarello F12 pas top trop complexe à monter moi j'ai un Gan RS monte en sram AXS beaucoup plus simple et c'est a plus de gueule sinon super vidéo merci à toi mécanicien
Why not show the finished product?. REALLY ?!!!!
I'm sorry, the assembling video was made for our dealers in order to understand all the step not for showing the bike.
PINARELLOはどこまで美しくなるんですかねぇ...
よし、型落ちのf10買おう！
As a former professional team mechanic, I can say that the F12 has been designed with marginal gains at world tour level in mind. Just like the Dogma range of the past to present, it's a race frame & so justified at the highest level to be less straight forward to work on in the cabling department.
In the real world for anyone other than a professional rider, it could be seen as not to be worth the drawbacks in building, especially over the cheaper & equally very impressive F8 & F10.
and yet, it seems this is where the industry standard is headed, with no option for normal, external-everything routing.
Looks like a total nightmare for any mechanic to reinstall, readjust, refit or recable.
No, it's fun
Labour of love...
Really? Looked like he was on top of it. looks like a great day in the garage to me, cycling on the TV, nice cup of coffee and spanners and Allen keys all over the place, happy days! Suppose if you're not into the mechanical aspect of cycling then it would probably be a pain in the arse though....
@@johnmorrison7171being performance oriented is such a burden I carry
Doesn't look the nightmare of some bikes I've done.
OMG, mechanical groupset on a Dogma F12? Can't believe it.
Dream Bike 😭😭😭
nice soundtrack. any links?
And voilá - SOC
Hi Where can I find the adjuster case and covers???
What bike stand is that?
Gioma Bike Maintenance Bench Eletrico... probably the most expansive on this planet!
www.giomabikestand.com/en/bikestand/maintenance-bench-electric/
3:10 What are these cable for? Why are they ending up there?
These cables are for the mechanical derailleurs (front and rear). The cable housing stop here, after going through the stem. Housing are holded in the metal part, and cable go through the frame, to the bottom bracket
@@jasonfromentin1972 Got it! Thanks for the answer!
I want one but I can't afford it 🙄
Seb R. Me too
did you also laugh when the cable just appeared out the bb shell.........
Pinarello bikes have big hole there, so it is really so easy as it look.
Di2 ??
Other video
didn’t even grease the spider axle where the NDS crank goes in....
And the cabling ... wtf is that?
"I need to replace a seized steer bearing"
Bet its easier to sell the bike and get a new one. We are talking about what, 400$ in labor?
This guy gets it
If you buy a 12k bike I don’t think you have problem to spend 400 on it... i mean do you change steer bearing every month?
No, i'll do it you for a quarter of that.
F12 17500 Bat thai
한국 자덕들도 이거 보러 왔을까?
당근빠따
저놈의 이너 케이블 털 나는 건 어쩔 수 없는 건가...
Soundtrak please!
And voilá - SOC
I am in Vietnam, I want to buy f12 size 46.5. Where can I find genuine products?
sir I still want to be sponsored by pinarello f12 bike
why mechanical?
to show that you can install mech i think
Di2 is anither video
One cutting the outer gear casing at 3.00 - 3.10 & 7.20 - 7.30 the inner wires should be pulled back through to make sure of a smooth operation, before fitting the ferruls.
& zero grease used anywhere :-(
It's very disappointing to see a Pinarello video not do this build correctly.
Hay con brochita se le dañan las manitas
Anyone just watches this types of video cause you know you can never afford them?
No, I watch them because I'm too heavy for them.
10000 euro...thanks...
horrible cabling
👍🚴💨👉😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😭
Passaggio dei cavi orrendo...🤮
Invece di semplificarle le cose mi pare che le complichino..
Contenti i meccanici, quando le assembleranno ...
The design of the bike is very bad.The best F10
Cycling has lost its simplicity
You can blame marketing departments for that.
Go custom. Have just ordered I nice roadbike in 4130 steel. I'm pissed about the fragility of carbon. Had a Cracked head tube after hitting a pot hole. Why pay a lot of money in shitty fragile 5 years only (if you don't crash early) usable bikes (manufacturers don't guarantee more due to resin stuff going brittle)? Just go custom, not cheap, but it's worth it.
note to self: never Ever EVER get a Pinarello Dogma F12... EVER
idiotic cable routing multiplied by potato
Ma stiamo parlando di uno strumento destinato a far divertire chi lo usa oppure di un’auto celebrazione per giustificare con sofismi inutili il prezzo di una Fiat 500...?
a me non sembra un bravo meccanico monta la catena senza la ruota posteriore e come prende la misura_
non imparate da questo
my friends: *look for porn in my watched history*
my history:
Ah that shitty pressfit. Crank really doesn't want to spin lol
Did you watch the video at all?
8 seconds into the video, it shows Italian Threaded bottom bracket.
pressfit..lol
Italians do it better.
Racepoint was much better than this
If you spend this much on a bike and get mechanical something is wrong with you. This looks like a nightmare to work on and get adjusted easily.