Actually all Shock Infantry has Cover Mode and has since Coyote Runners were introduced in TWC. It's the Shock Infantry tradeoff for not getting Trample Mode.
Tried this out for a few games. Absolutely insane on treaty. You can have close to 200 units to attack with (I personally spawn around 30 settlers after using the card) that are extremely economical and can rip apart buildings with ease.
I use a similiar strat like this before the pirate loss their counter against cav and became a shock infantry, which was just TC Spam. You can also research the arsenal upgrades for them.
Haha played a couple of team games vs you this week, and both games I noticed you did an FI with France, I kept wondering why, first I thought it was the grenadiers strat, but you didn't had the church card... Now I can see why hehe definitely a very creative and fun strategy. Would've loved to see it in action
So the best basic units that counter them is range resists caroleans but the best would be fusiliers they would still 2-3 shot them when it comes to range units that is, any FAST moveing anti cav melee unit that would be the best , so civs that have speedy pikes because there range attack do 50% less damg to pikeman. In a 1v1 not a huge threat but pop cost wise very effective and in team games as long as your team takes care of any pikemen for you, you're a unkillable wall with very long spikes.
Yeah pretty much. Ran into a Japanese player massing nothing but samurai by pure coincidence. He didn't kill a single bucaneer in the game, I just kited I also think they are still a high threat in One v one if somebody pulls it off because very free civs have access to something like a 6 speed pike. Also while there is a 50% reproduction against hand infantry, there's still the two times against heavy infantry to consider which all Pike units fall under, so they're still doing normal damage to those guys just like everything else. They only get a BONUS against musketeers specifically
This has been in the game since DE release. Even before they were shock infantry. This has been strong for ages but pros are notoriously slow to catch onto stuff like this. Barbary 6 speed skirms with 60 range resist were in the game for ages. Also British is better then France for Haiti because the revolutionaries are converted more favorably.
oh im aware its been a thing for a while, i just hadn't caught on until recently also, yes revolutionaries are technichically more favorable for the brits, but the revolutionaries arent exactly why you do this strat... so i prefer the civ with a shock infantry effecting combat card between the 2, and thats france
Idk why u arent using number groupations for your army, i mean since u already have thr tavern at 2, why not have the Buccs all at 1 instead of clicking on them all thr time?
No idea why exactly they decided to buff this thing but yeah, the bucks are a steamroller. I will note, however, that they are vulnerable to heavy cav. Past that, they are just as stupid as they used to be. I love them.
Uh... Spies and assassins don't have multipliers against outlaws, only mercenaries Additionally, that doesn't make the unit not broken EVEN IF IT WAS a mercenary because not every civ has easy access to spies. Italy can only trained them in batches of three that take up their shipment slots for example. What are they supposed to do against this unit? Know if a unit cannot be countered by a standard unit then it's broken. The spies are not intended to be the only possible savior against the unit, they are meant to be a hard counter that Supplements normal forces, as evidenced by the fact that they have extremely low stats for their cost. The native civilizations instead I have the scout as a spy equivalent, but that unit costs 90 entire wood and is trained by your TOWN CENTER unless you spend a further 200 wood on a native embassy, slowing your economy down for every batch. They also have a build limit of 5 unless you send a very specific card that is unviable in most decks
Wouldn’t technically Berber camels counter these guys pretty hard considering they are melee goons ignoring that 60% RR? Granted only specific civs have access to them…
it long drawnt out games like a FFA that goes beyond an hour they lose there value imo, there best in team games that dont last to long. Oh and by the way if you send Royal fencing school card with standing army you can insta spawn them and spam forts.
Yeah for thumbnail purposes Literally like the best possible outcome. Tangentially similar visually, uses a curved sword and a gun, what could I ask for?
they just dont click for my in muh brains. i use a couple thoug, eject garisoning units, selecting TCs and queing vills, setting production buildings to control groups... but i mean thats about it
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Actually all Shock Infantry has Cover Mode and has since Coyote Runners were introduced in TWC. It's the Shock Infantry tradeoff for not getting Trample Mode.
Tried this out for a few games. Absolutely insane on treaty. You can have close to 200 units to attack with (I personally spawn around 30 settlers after using the card) that are extremely economical and can rip apart buildings with ease.
I use a similiar strat like this before the pirate loss their counter against cav and became a shock infantry, which was just TC Spam. You can also research the arsenal upgrades for them.
Haha played a couple of team games vs you this week, and both games I noticed you did an FI with France, I kept wondering why, first I thought it was the grenadiers strat, but you didn't had the church card... Now I can see why hehe definitely a very creative and fun strategy. Would've loved to see it in action
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So the best basic units that counter them is range resists caroleans but the best would be fusiliers they would still 2-3 shot them when it comes to range units that is, any FAST moveing anti cav melee unit that would be the best , so civs that have speedy pikes because there range attack do 50% less damg to pikeman. In a 1v1 not a huge threat but pop cost wise very effective and in team games as long as your team takes care of any pikemen for you, you're a unkillable wall with very long spikes.
Yeah pretty much. Ran into a Japanese player massing nothing but samurai by pure coincidence. He didn't kill a single bucaneer in the game, I just kited
I also think they are still a high threat in One v one if somebody pulls it off because very free civs have access to something like a 6 speed pike. Also while there is a 50% reproduction against hand infantry, there's still the two times against heavy infantry to consider which all Pike units fall under, so they're still doing normal damage to those guys just like everything else. They only get a BONUS against musketeers specifically
This has been in the game since DE release. Even before they were shock infantry. This has been strong for ages but pros are notoriously slow to catch onto stuff like this. Barbary 6 speed skirms with 60 range resist were in the game for ages. Also British is better then France for Haiti because the revolutionaries are converted more favorably.
oh im aware its been a thing for a while, i just hadn't caught on until recently
also, yes revolutionaries are technichically more favorable for the brits, but the revolutionaries arent exactly why you do this strat... so i prefer the civ with a shock infantry effecting combat card between the 2, and thats france
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Idk why u arent using number groupations for your army, i mean since u already have thr tavern at 2, why not have the Buccs all at 1 instead of clicking on them all thr time?
Quite simply, cause I don't want to add don't feel the need to get that sweaty over a game I play casually for fun
Cav curass effect them I guess ?
they removed cover mode from shock inf in latest patch
anf Maybe black riders or something could counter them
Not the only thing they nervous about this, it's basically dead in the water now lol
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finally someone else found this
i wouldn't have if not for a member of my discord server showing it to me lol
Wouldn't British be the better choice for a Buccaneer spam build thanks to having more than one cavalry combat card?
Never mind, I'm stupid, the British cavalry combat cards do not benefit Hand Shock Infantry.
@@bleed7378 bingo. I considered that at first too
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No idea why exactly they decided to buff this thing but yeah, the bucks are a steamroller. I will note, however, that they are vulnerable to heavy cav. Past that, they are just as stupid as they used to be. I love them.
I mean, they tie heavy cav at worst, and win against lancer type heavy cav
this unit doesn't need a nerf, spy/assassin spam counters them easily just like it counters all mercenary and outlaw play
Uh... Spies and assassins don't have multipliers against outlaws, only mercenaries
Additionally, that doesn't make the unit not broken EVEN IF IT WAS a mercenary because not every civ has easy access to spies. Italy can only trained them in batches of three that take up their shipment slots for example. What are they supposed to do against this unit? Know if a unit cannot be countered by a standard unit then it's broken. The spies are not intended to be the only possible savior against the unit, they are meant to be a hard counter that Supplements normal forces, as evidenced by the fact that they have extremely low stats for their cost. The native civilizations instead I have the scout as a spy equivalent, but that unit costs 90 entire wood and is trained by your TOWN CENTER unless you spend a further 200 wood on a native embassy, slowing your economy down for every batch. They also have a build limit of 5 unless you send a very specific card that is unviable in most decks
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@@fufy3820 what?
@@bisongaming729 infinite high health ranged resist pikemen
I uh hate to break this to you... but spies dont have multipliers against outlaws, only mercenaries
Wouldn’t technically Berber camels counter these guys pretty hard considering they are melee goons ignoring that 60% RR? Granted only specific civs have access to them…
Yes, that doesn't mean it's easy. When I say something has no counters, I mean I'm the traditional unit sense
I think the Haiti have an outlaw combat card no?
they do not. pretty much every other card is actually focused on african natives... of all things
it long drawnt out games like a FFA that goes beyond an hour they lose there value imo, there best in team games that dont last to long. Oh and by the way if you send Royal fencing school card with standing army you can insta spawn them and spam forts.
I could see this unit gets massively nerfed in the future by adding bunch of tags, like what they did to Mounted Granadero
Is that pirate from for honor?
Yeah for thumbnail purposes
Literally like the best possible outcome. Tangentially similar visually, uses a curved sword and a gun, what could I ask for?
it is lol, it was so perfect since for honor pirate ALSO has a scimitar and gun XD
my brother, do you only have one arm? cause you never use the hotkeys.
they just dont click for my in muh brains. i use a couple thoug, eject garisoning units, selecting TCs and queing vills, setting production buildings to control groups... but i mean thats about it
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@@bisongaming729 Never knew it is a thing, guess I can check again now
Sheeshus how is this even legal 😂
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