If ancient humans had such unique abilities tied directly to dark, it makes a lot more sense Gwyn would be so afraid of them. In addition to the black flame, there's also the lore tidbit of ancient soul arts being fire sorcery, so maybe man had a simultaneous link to both dark and fire, which would make the dark fire thing make even more sense.
Something I always thought was that Flynn was Gwyneveres and Flanns child, since Flynn means "Descendant of Flann" in Irish and he is described as being ruddy, which describes a healthy, reddish glow of the skin. Awesome channel man I hope to see more lore videos from you!
Indeed; it's almost as if "noble" descent doesn't translate to actual nobility, or wealth. Perhaps, this was all Flynn had to his name, for even if Flann wasn't human, Flynn's name is descendant of Flann@@Garl_Vinland
For sure. 貴 can be translated as "sacred" or "holy". Although I'm a bit hesitant to translate 貴 as holy or sacred. The main reason is because I tend to associate 聖 as Holy.
@@ChannelYoshimitsu Yeah, it's a lesser meaning, but i think the games employ it for double entendres with Astraea, Astora, Cainhurst, Irithyllians and most obviously, Gwynevere's children in that they are not only noble as in from a higher social status, but also have a divine aspect to them.
Their “Goddess of illusion” does not refer to the knights knowing Gwynevere is an illusion of a Goddess it refers to Gwyndolin, Goddess of Illusion. So the English translation is technically right, it just is spoiler free as to what Goddess they are actually serving.
So two lore questions I look forward to hearing your input on if you get around to it. 1.) Aldrich, and his connections to Astora and the evil eye ring. I've always had the impression that dark souls 3 is distinctly implying Aldrich to be the "beast that beset Astora" refered to in passing item descriptions in dark souls 1. 2.) Seath the scaleless, and his presence in dark souls 2 specifically. The shaded woods and dialogue from the kitty kat seem to imply to me that seath has actually achieved some semblance of immortality, even if that means being reborn as something else. It's, really weird. Why does the cat imply that it is also something that will be reborn? There's alot of pieces here and I have no idea where they fit. Also, what IS the deal with the cat in Majula in dark souls 2? These are the questions that keep me up at night. Also thanks for all the lore analyses you've done. They're great and have added alot of insight to my understanding of the series. Thanks again.
Thanks for the great comment and questions! 1) I personally believe Aldrich is not the Evil Eye that attacked Astora. 2) With regarding Seath, I have this theory he was able to infuse himself or his essence into Souls. Imo, anyone who researches into the depths of sorcery is affected by Seath and almost becomes Seath. In DS2, he appears as the Writhing Ruin which I think should be Writhing Insect(這う蟲). Regarding cats, I think they are Ancient dragons that were able to survive the Dark. Still working on the cat theory though.
@@ChannelYoshimitsu late but this could be supported by Oceiros being similarly transformed into what could be taken as Seathlike by studying the Magick
I had this channel shared with me and its so nice to see someone who understands the japanese language translate this directly to us and not be soooo farfetch'd from the main story. I've seen some other channels that translate from japanese that have some rough ideas, but this one feels not only fresh but reasonable and grounded. I always wondered why Astora was considered a ''land of nobles'', if every kingdom has its own nobility, kings and etc, and seeing it as possibly a place full of the nobility of the gods is a very interesting way to think of it. Although I don't ride much with the idea of Flann being a man while still called a god (i'm very much on the side that gods are a race, instead of godhood granted to a few select individuals), your reasoning is still very interest to listen to, and a very thoughtfull correlation. Certainly gained a new sub.
Criminally underrated content. Thank you for your magnificent work with all the attention to detail. Especially your service of looking at the original Japanese item description texts. Very enlightening, and you explained some very good theories that made me think differently. For example that the Silver Knights of Anor Londo knew that Gwynevere was an illusion. I sadly don't recall whether they are still there after you unveil the illusion, but I am sure they fade into nothing when they "die", just like Gwynevere. Wouldn't that imply that they're themselves part of the illusion? Where the hell are they, then? I hope you will get a lot more views and a lot more recognition for all your work. Thanks again!
Thanks for you great comment! I actually went back to see if any Silver Knights are still in Dark Anor Londo and not all, but a few are still around and haven't disappeared with the illusion. It seems like some of the Silver Knights are illusions and a few aren't.
@@ChannelYoshimitsu Even more interesting. Thanks for going back. What has always intrigued me, is the different ways some enemies die. Some become rag dolls, some "disappear" into nothingness. Maybe there's even different layers to those illusions, who knows. I think the one idea to take away from this is that Anor Londo politics were more complicated than one might think, complete with different levels and layers of loyalties, etc.
I've always had this theory that enemies that disappear are based on souls and enemies that become rag dolls are based on dark souls. And I do agree Anor Londo had many different layers and levels of loyalties. I theorize the same probably applies to the Way of White as well.
However the description of Anri's armor reads that he/she wasn't from Astora, but doesnt the japanese text of the executioner's armor says that Horace and Anri are the only two survivor sons of Aldrich? If this is true and Aldrich had childen, their mother must be Rosaria considering that she is locked in her bedroom in the Cathedral of Deep, and since Rosaria is one of Gwynevere's daughters Anri would be a direct descendent of Gwynevere :) Returning to the video, the seal of fire was more likely placed on the ancient humans and their armors by Gwyn and the other gods back in the age of ancients since the Ringed Knights fought in the war against the archdragons and were already branded
Yup, the Jpn description says Horace and Anri are the only two survivor children of Aldrich. Had to take a look again since I wasn't sure on that one. Based off that, you're right, the chance that Anri and Horace are the children born between Aldrich and Rosaria is quite high. I've always thought too that Gwyn was the one that branded humans but now I believe it was the Nameless King and Gwyndolin that branded humans under the command of Gwyn.
brother what do you think about the primordial serpents not present in dark souls 3 , apparently kaathe was supposed to be the endgame boss in lorian and lothric's fight
Ive read somewhere Kaathe was supposed to be in a phase 2 fight against Prince lothric or something. I personally would've loved to see either Kaathe or even Frampt in dark souls 3. I assume Londor was founded or influenced by Kaathe and Lothric was influenced by Frampt. But I do have this theory both Kaathe and Frampt were working together from the very start.
@@ChannelYoshimitsu yep, furthermore, in Japanese translation, when you kill Yuria, she says "Ah, Kaathe... your dying wish..." Kaathe was at Londor and he is dead now.
@@ChannelYoshimitsu see this theory. www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/5ta9co/theory_kaathe_wanted_the_first_flame_usurped_all/ after reading the whole theory, see this www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/6c4it5/theory_manus_and_filianore_share_an_incredible/ my conclusion after reading EVERYTHING is that Manus was the furtive pygmy, he was promised to the filianore. Like Gwyn, Manus also split his soul; pygmy lords have larger fragments, humanity smaller fragments. Gwyn's betrayal extends the era of fire in collusion with the pygmies of the ringed city. Filianore sleeps and time stops. The era of the pygmies of the ring city would never end as long as Filianore slept. Manus and Filianore are kept apart. Kaarthe wanted to usurp the fire SINCE DARK SOULS 1. For that it was necessary a very powerful being with a great presence of the ABYSS (HUMANITY). Your first option is the first lord of the dark souls - Manus. He tries to resurrect Manus to use the flame. Manus goes crazy because of the loss of Filianore. Plan failed. Kaarthe looks for another way, to transform the four kings into lord of hollows, since they have the first flame given by Gwyn and fragments of Dark Souls - after all, they are human. Weak kings are corrupted by the abyss. The plan again fails. Kaarthe understands that the flame must be too fragile to be usurped. The Dark Lord must become stronger. The plan is to absorb the royal family's dark sigil in Astora. Your lord is defeated, but Astora is destroyed. Kaarthe, sable church, continues to act in the shadows in order to create a human that has the soul of the lords and a great abyss in itself (many dark sigils) to usurp the first flame. My question is: WHERE VELKA / Caitha FIT?
I haven't watched all your videos yet, so maybe it's been addressed, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on anything relating to chloranthy, which seems pretty tightly married to the Seal of Fire in that they both originate from the Ringed City and tie into Oolacile. The statue we find just before the Church in TRC shows Gwyn and a representative of the pygmy exchanging a crown for a chloranthy ring. Chloranthy is a type of infection plants can get that causes phyllomorphy; the condition where rather than flowering, the plant produces flower-shaped leaf material. Green Blossoms, in other words. It's strange that this much of the lore centers around, apparently, marginal improvements to stamina regeneration, but that's From for you. I think the implication is that the ancient humans traded their ability to 'marry and reproduce' naturally, to flower and produce seeds - which would have led to the Dark Age, represented by the crown - for something like conditional immortality.
Chloranthy as a process is a type of reverse metamorphosis, where a mature part of a plant (the flower) reverts to a state like what's usually associated with growth and youth (the green leaf/stem). We know that green plant symbols are associated with Gwyn's direct family. TRC tells us explicitly that Filianore is Gwyn's youngest, her crest is Young Grass, and she is clearly associated with eternal youth (since her sleep allows the cycles to continue). It's easy to see why this process - essentially, the reversal of aging - aids in restoring one's stamina. I like to imagine, when under any of the Stamina-aiding effects (almost all of which are derived from a Grass- or Green Flower-related source), our characters feel a bit more youthful, a spring is added to their step. The only Stam recovery speed effect I can think of, that is NOT Grass-related, is instead directly related to youth: Mask of the Child. It's interesting you point out that Gwyn is EXCHANGING the Crown for the Ring - and I think you could be right. Formerly I had assumed the ring was just resting on Gwyn's finger, or that it was being bestowed upon the Hollow in addition to the Crown. In the former case (ring rests on Gwyn's finger), it could just be yet another symbol of Gwyn and his family. For the latter case (both crown and ring are a gift): One of Hawkshaw's videos makes a compelling argument that the green flower symbol is a calling card of the Nameless Blacksmith Deity in his works. He was likely responsible for the crafting of the gods' equipment as well as their cities like Anor Londo, and likely by extension the Ringed City. If you look at it as though Gwyn is gifting the ring to the Hollow, you could see it as Gwyn bestowing the gift of the Blacksmith's craft - The Ringed City itself - to them, as well as their rule over it. However, I've heard it argued a bit more convincingly in a lore discord that the Green Flower and various Grass Crests are instead only a symbol of Gwyn and his family, and therefore NOT specific to the Nameless Blacksmith. If you still look at it as though he's bestowing both as gifts upon the Hollow, then perhaps it could symbolize that he is sharing his Eternal Life - the Gods' ability to cling to youth - with the pygmies, who keep in mind are humans and therefore likely subject to death prior to the Undead Curse. It's a poisoned gift, however, perhaps symbolized by the weight of the crown and the what comes with the City itself - Filianore, the Undead curse, the Seal of Fire. Gwyn feared the Dark, the reality of being Human, and cursed humanity and the world itself forever trying to escape it, that much we know, and the statue could well symbolize that. Your interpretation of an exchange, however, is very interesting to me. It fits well with the last interpretation I think, instead showing Gwyn TAKING his eternal youth from the Pygmies in exchange for the crown. Gwyn gave the pygmies the Seal, the Ringed City, and Filianore, and in a deceptive exchange received Eternal Life, symbolized by the Chloranthy Ring.
So does it mean shes a goddess of the harvest. I remember something about there being murals of grain that tied some character to Nito's domain, and that Nito was likely married. Could one of her children be married to Nito? Edit: if she raised children in Astora could Anastacia be one of the children.
Yes, I do believe Gwynevere is a God of Harvest for Crops in Dark Souls. The Kanji 豊穣 is used when referring to good harvest in Japanese for the Five Grains五穀(米,麦,粟,豆,黍). Hence why I translate 豊穣 as Harvest instead of Fertility. I connect Gwynevere and Nito through Caitha. But this is based on my theory that Caitha is a Giant like Nito and Caitha is Gwynevere's mother. I think Anastacia is a descendant of Gwynevere personally.
Thanks for subbing! Apologies with the sound quality. I've bought a new mic since then so I am hoping my sound quality has improved a bit since then. :)
If Anri is a descendant of Gwinevere, along with the other nobles of Astora, then what use would they have for a luck based weapon if this is a uniquely human characteristic?
According to Yoshimitsu's theory, they would also be descendants of an ancient human aka Flan. So Astora nobles would still be humans, but with some of gods' power in them. Alternatively you can argue that Anri never was particularly smart nor checked starts on his/her build.
@@ChannelYoshimitsu see this theory. www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/5ta9co/theory_kaathe_wanted_the_first_flame_usurped_all/ after reading the whole theory, see this www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/6c4it5/theory_manus_and_filianore_share_an_incredible/ my conclusion after reading EVERYTHING is that Manus was the furtive pygmy, he was promised to the filianore. Like Gwyn, Manus also split his soul; pygmy lords have larger fragments, humanity smaller fragments. Gwyn's betrayal extends the era of fire in collusion with the pygmies of the ringed city. Filianore sleeps and time stops. The era of the pygmies of the ring city would never end as long as Filianore slept. Manus and Filianore are kept apart. Kaarthe wanted to usurp the fire SINCE DARK SOULS 1. For that it was necessary a very powerful being with a great presence of the ABYSS (HUMANITY). Your first option is the first lord of the dark souls - Manus. He tries to resurrect Manus to use the flame. Manus goes crazy because of the loss of Filianore. Plan failed. Kaarthe looks for another way, to transform the four kings into lord of hollows, since they have the first flame given by Gwyn and fragments of Dark Souls - after all, they are human. Weak kings are corrupted by the abyss. The plan again fails. Kaarthe understands that the flame must be too fragile to be usurped. The Dark Lord must become stronger. The plan is to absorb the royal family's dark sigil in Astora. Your lord is defeated, but Astora is destroyed. Kaarthe, sable church, continues to act in the shadows in order to create a human that has the soul of the lords and a great abyss in itself (many dark sigils) to usurp the first flame. My question is: WHERE VELKA / Caitha FIT?
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It makes sense for Gwynevere to be a goddess of harvest because of the imagery in the stonework of Anor Londo having wheat, bread, and ovens.
If ancient humans had such unique abilities tied directly to dark, it makes a lot more sense Gwyn would be so afraid of them. In addition to the black flame, there's also the lore tidbit of ancient soul arts being fire sorcery, so maybe man had a simultaneous link to both dark and fire, which would make the dark fire thing make even more sense.
Something I always thought was that Flynn was Gwyneveres and Flanns child, since Flynn means "Descendant of Flann" in Irish and he is described as being ruddy, which describes a healthy, reddish glow of the skin. Awesome channel man I hope to see more lore videos from you!
I didn't know Flynn means "Descendant of Flann" in Irish. Super cool info. Love it.
Thanks for letting me know. :)
Funny how Flynn is known as this representative of the poor, yet Flann is this so called “one most noble”
Indeed; it's almost as if "noble" descent doesn't translate to actual nobility, or wealth. Perhaps, this was all Flynn had to his name, for even if Flann wasn't human, Flynn's name is descendant of Flann@@Garl_Vinland
The kanji 貴 tipically translates as "noble", but it also has a double meaning of "sacred" or "holy", which the soulsgames employ a lot.
For sure. 貴 can be translated as "sacred" or "holy". Although I'm a bit hesitant to translate 貴 as holy or sacred. The main reason is because I tend to associate 聖 as Holy.
@@ChannelYoshimitsu Yeah, it's a lesser meaning, but i think the games employ it for double entendres with Astraea, Astora, Cainhurst, Irithyllians and most obviously, Gwynevere's children in that they are not only noble as in from a higher social status, but also have a divine aspect to them.
I think they also mean noble as in “noble of heart” rather than the literal class of nobles. That’s why heavenly was used in the retranslation.
I can't imagine a human being called a god in the world of Dark Souls
I think there is a couple of humans that are called deities or gods in dark souls
Their “Goddess of illusion” does not refer to the knights knowing Gwynevere is an illusion of a Goddess it refers to Gwyndolin, Goddess of Illusion. So the English translation is technically right, it just is spoiler free as to what Goddess they are actually serving.
So two lore questions I look forward to hearing your input on if you get around to it.
1.) Aldrich, and his connections to Astora and the evil eye ring. I've always had the impression that dark souls 3 is distinctly implying Aldrich to be the "beast that beset Astora" refered to in passing item descriptions in dark souls 1.
2.) Seath the scaleless, and his presence in dark souls 2 specifically. The shaded woods and dialogue from the kitty kat seem to imply to me that seath has actually achieved some semblance of immortality, even if that means being reborn as something else. It's, really weird. Why does the cat imply that it is also something that will be reborn? There's alot of pieces here and I have no idea where they fit. Also, what IS the deal with the cat in Majula in dark souls 2?
These are the questions that keep me up at night.
Also thanks for all the lore analyses you've done. They're great and have added alot of insight to my understanding of the series. Thanks again.
Thanks for the great comment and questions!
1) I personally believe Aldrich is not the Evil Eye that attacked Astora.
2) With regarding Seath, I have this theory he was able to infuse himself or his essence into Souls. Imo, anyone who researches into the depths of sorcery is affected by Seath and almost becomes Seath. In DS2, he appears as the Writhing Ruin which I think should be Writhing Insect(這う蟲).
Regarding cats, I think they are Ancient dragons that were able to survive the Dark. Still working on the cat theory though.
@@ChannelYoshimitsu a regard to your cat theory: are cats in the walls os cathedral of deep.
@@ChannelYoshimitsu late but this could be supported by Oceiros being similarly transformed into what could be taken as Seathlike by studying the Magick
Dude... I'm so happy that u exists...
seriouslly!
Nice video! :)
So glad to hear. Thank you. :)
Epic, love your delivery. Very direct and distilled. Gods work bro
Thanks for the epic comment friend.
I had this channel shared with me and its so nice to see someone who understands the japanese language translate this directly to us and not be soooo farfetch'd from the main story. I've seen some other channels that translate from japanese that have some rough ideas, but this one feels not only fresh but reasonable and grounded.
I always wondered why Astora was considered a ''land of nobles'', if every kingdom has its own nobility, kings and etc, and seeing it as possibly a place full of the nobility of the gods is a very interesting way to think of it.
Although I don't ride much with the idea of Flann being a man while still called a god (i'm very much on the side that gods are a race, instead of godhood granted to a few select individuals), your reasoning is still very interest to listen to, and a very thoughtfull correlation. Certainly gained a new sub.
Criminally underrated content. Thank you for your magnificent work with all the attention to detail. Especially your service of looking at the original Japanese item description texts. Very enlightening, and you explained some very good theories that made me think differently. For example that the Silver Knights of Anor Londo knew that Gwynevere was an illusion. I sadly don't recall whether they are still there after you unveil the illusion, but I am sure they fade into nothing when they "die", just like Gwynevere. Wouldn't that imply that they're themselves part of the illusion? Where the hell are they, then?
I hope you will get a lot more views and a lot more recognition for all your work. Thanks again!
Thanks for you great comment! I actually went back to see if any Silver Knights are still in Dark Anor Londo and not all, but a few are still around and haven't disappeared with the illusion. It seems like some of the Silver Knights are illusions and a few aren't.
@@ChannelYoshimitsu Even more interesting. Thanks for going back.
What has always intrigued me, is the different ways some enemies die. Some become rag dolls, some "disappear" into nothingness. Maybe there's even different layers to those illusions, who knows.
I think the one idea to take away from this is that Anor Londo politics were more complicated than one might think, complete with different levels and layers of loyalties, etc.
I've always had this theory that enemies that disappear are based on souls and enemies that become rag dolls are based on dark souls.
And I do agree Anor Londo had many different layers and levels of loyalties. I theorize the same probably applies to the Way of White as well.
Great stuff as usual, keep up the good work.
Thanks Fransisco, I will strive to release the best FromSoft lore content. :)
Underrated video! Deserves more views!
Thanks for the great comment!
However the description of Anri's armor reads that he/she wasn't from Astora, but doesnt the japanese text of the executioner's armor says that Horace and Anri are the only two survivor sons of Aldrich? If this is true and Aldrich had childen, their mother must be Rosaria considering that she is locked in her bedroom in the Cathedral of Deep, and since Rosaria is one of Gwynevere's daughters Anri would be a direct descendent of Gwynevere :)
Returning to the video, the seal of fire was more likely placed on the ancient humans and their armors by Gwyn and the other gods back in the age of ancients since the Ringed Knights fought in the war against the archdragons and were already branded
Yup, the Jpn description says Horace and Anri are the only two survivor children of Aldrich. Had to take a look again since I wasn't sure on that one. Based off that, you're right, the chance that Anri and Horace are the children born between Aldrich and Rosaria is quite high.
I've always thought too that Gwyn was the one that branded humans but now I believe it was the Nameless King and Gwyndolin that branded humans under the command of Gwyn.
I love this great stuff!!
Thanks Artorias for the great comment!!
brother what do you think about the primordial serpents not present in dark souls 3 , apparently kaathe was supposed to be the endgame boss in lorian and lothric's fight
Ive read somewhere Kaathe was supposed to be in a phase 2 fight against Prince lothric or something. I personally would've loved to see either Kaathe or even Frampt in dark souls 3. I assume Londor was founded or influenced by Kaathe and Lothric was influenced by Frampt.
But I do have this theory both Kaathe and Frampt were working together from the very start.
@@ChannelYoshimitsu yep, furthermore, in Japanese translation, when you kill Yuria, she says "Ah, Kaathe... your dying wish..."
Kaathe was at Londor and he is dead now.
@@ChannelYoshimitsu that's pretty interesting, I did find it weird that they both show up in the Dark Lord ending in DS1
where do you see this info? :)
@@ChannelYoshimitsu
see this theory. www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/5ta9co/theory_kaathe_wanted_the_first_flame_usurped_all/
after reading the whole theory, see this
www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/6c4it5/theory_manus_and_filianore_share_an_incredible/
my conclusion after reading EVERYTHING is that Manus was the furtive pygmy, he was promised to the filianore. Like Gwyn, Manus also split his soul; pygmy lords have larger fragments, humanity smaller fragments. Gwyn's betrayal extends the era of fire in collusion with the pygmies of the ringed city.
Filianore sleeps and time stops. The era of the pygmies of the ring city would never end as long as Filianore slept. Manus and Filianore are kept apart.
Kaarthe wanted to usurp the fire SINCE DARK SOULS 1. For that it was necessary a very powerful being with a great presence of the ABYSS (HUMANITY). Your first option is the first lord of the dark souls - Manus. He tries to resurrect Manus to use the flame. Manus goes crazy because of the loss of Filianore. Plan failed.
Kaarthe looks for another way, to transform the four kings into lord of hollows, since they have the first flame given by Gwyn and fragments of Dark Souls - after all, they are human. Weak kings are corrupted by the abyss. The plan again fails.
Kaarthe understands that the flame must be too fragile to be usurped. The Dark Lord must become stronger. The plan is to absorb the royal family's dark sigil in Astora. Your lord is defeated, but Astora is destroyed. Kaarthe, sable church, continues to act in the shadows in order to create a human that has the soul of the lords and a great abyss in itself (many dark sigils) to usurp the first flame.
My question is: WHERE VELKA / Caitha FIT?
Goddam. This is great stuff.
I haven't watched all your videos yet, so maybe it's been addressed, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on anything relating to chloranthy, which seems pretty tightly married to the Seal of Fire in that they both originate from the Ringed City and tie into Oolacile. The statue we find just before the Church in TRC shows Gwyn and a representative of the pygmy exchanging a crown for a chloranthy ring. Chloranthy is a type of infection plants can get that causes phyllomorphy; the condition where rather than flowering, the plant produces flower-shaped leaf material.
Green Blossoms, in other words.
It's strange that this much of the lore centers around, apparently, marginal improvements to stamina regeneration, but that's From for you. I think the implication is that the ancient humans traded their ability to 'marry and reproduce' naturally, to flower and produce seeds - which would have led to the Dark Age, represented by the crown - for something like conditional immortality.
Chloranthy as a process is a type of reverse metamorphosis, where a mature part of a plant (the flower) reverts to a state like what's usually associated with growth and youth (the green leaf/stem). We know that green plant symbols are associated with Gwyn's direct family. TRC tells us explicitly that Filianore is Gwyn's youngest, her crest is Young Grass, and she is clearly associated with eternal youth (since her sleep allows the cycles to continue). It's easy to see why this process - essentially, the reversal of aging - aids in restoring one's stamina. I like to imagine, when under any of the Stamina-aiding effects (almost all of which are derived from a Grass- or Green Flower-related source), our characters feel a bit more youthful, a spring is added to their step. The only Stam recovery speed effect I can think of, that is NOT Grass-related, is instead directly related to youth: Mask of the Child.
It's interesting you point out that Gwyn is EXCHANGING the Crown for the Ring - and I think you could be right. Formerly I had assumed the ring was just resting on Gwyn's finger, or that it was being bestowed upon the Hollow in addition to the Crown. In the former case (ring rests on Gwyn's finger), it could just be yet another symbol of Gwyn and his family. For the latter case (both crown and ring are a gift):
One of Hawkshaw's videos makes a compelling argument that the green flower symbol is a calling card of the Nameless Blacksmith Deity in his works. He was likely responsible for the crafting of the gods' equipment as well as their cities like Anor Londo, and likely by extension the Ringed City. If you look at it as though Gwyn is gifting the ring to the Hollow, you could see it as Gwyn bestowing the gift of the Blacksmith's craft - The Ringed City itself - to them, as well as their rule over it.
However, I've heard it argued a bit more convincingly in a lore discord that the Green Flower and various Grass Crests are instead only a symbol of Gwyn and his family, and therefore NOT specific to the Nameless Blacksmith. If you still look at it as though he's bestowing both as gifts upon the Hollow, then perhaps it could symbolize that he is sharing his Eternal Life - the Gods' ability to cling to youth - with the pygmies, who keep in mind are humans and therefore likely subject to death prior to the Undead Curse. It's a poisoned gift, however, perhaps symbolized by the weight of the crown and the what comes with the City itself - Filianore, the Undead curse, the Seal of Fire. Gwyn feared the Dark, the reality of being Human, and cursed humanity and the world itself forever trying to escape it, that much we know, and the statue could well symbolize that.
Your interpretation of an exchange, however, is very interesting to me. It fits well with the last interpretation I think, instead showing Gwyn TAKING his eternal youth from the Pygmies in exchange for the crown. Gwyn gave the pygmies the Seal, the Ringed City, and Filianore, and in a deceptive exchange received Eternal Life, symbolized by the Chloranthy Ring.
Great video as always!
Thanks for the great comment Jose! :)
I really need to learm more about Gwynevere. I only know few informations about her
Yoshimtso San story time
So does it mean shes a goddess of the harvest. I remember something about there being murals of grain that tied some character to Nito's domain, and that Nito was likely married. Could one of her children be married to Nito?
Edit: if she raised children in Astora could Anastacia be one of the children.
Yes, I do believe Gwynevere is a God of Harvest for Crops in Dark Souls.
The Kanji 豊穣 is used when referring to good harvest in Japanese for the Five Grains五穀(米,麦,粟,豆,黍). Hence why I translate 豊穣 as Harvest instead of Fertility.
I connect Gwynevere and Nito through Caitha. But this is based on my theory that Caitha is a Giant like Nito and Caitha is Gwynevere's mother.
I think Anastacia is a descendant of Gwynevere personally.
Harvest could mean a double entendre of her purpose being the harvesting of humans to stoke the first flame
Wheeeeeeeeere is velka, my frieeeend?
The Velka lore video is coming soon my friend. Apologies for the delay
Your Mic Quality immediately made me want to leave, but your content is so good, you just got a sub.
Nice Job!
Thanks for subbing! Apologies with the sound quality. I've bought a new mic since then so I am hoping my sound quality has improved a bit since then. :)
If Anri is a descendant of Gwinevere, along with the other nobles of Astora, then what use would they have for a luck based weapon if this is a uniquely human characteristic?
According to Yoshimitsu's theory, they would also be descendants of an ancient human aka Flan. So Astora nobles would still be humans, but with some of gods' power in them.
Alternatively you can argue that Anri never was particularly smart nor checked starts on his/her build.
Diooooooooos que buen video
Is this channel still active?
YEEEEEEEEEEEEES VELKA LORE SOOOOOON
I was gonna save Velka for later but I randomly ran into something in-game in ds1 that got my lore brain going like crazy about Velka.
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see this theory. www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/5ta9co/theory_kaathe_wanted_the_first_flame_usurped_all/
after reading the whole theory, see this
www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/6c4it5/theory_manus_and_filianore_share_an_incredible/
my conclusion after reading EVERYTHING is that Manus was the furtive pygmy, he was promised to the filianore. Like Gwyn, Manus also split his soul; pygmy lords have larger fragments, humanity smaller fragments. Gwyn's betrayal extends the era of fire in collusion with the pygmies of the ringed city.
Filianore sleeps and time stops. The era of the pygmies of the ring city would never end as long as Filianore slept. Manus and Filianore are kept apart.
Kaarthe wanted to usurp the fire SINCE DARK SOULS 1. For that it was necessary a very powerful being with a great presence of the ABYSS (HUMANITY). Your first option is the first lord of the dark souls - Manus. He tries to resurrect Manus to use the flame. Manus goes crazy because of the loss of Filianore. Plan failed.
Kaarthe looks for another way, to transform the four kings into lord of hollows, since they have the first flame given by Gwyn and fragments of Dark Souls - after all, they are human. Weak kings are corrupted by the abyss. The plan again fails.
Kaarthe understands that the flame must be too fragile to be usurped. The Dark Lord must become stronger. The plan is to absorb the royal family's dark sigil in Astora. Your lord is defeated, but Astora is destroyed. Kaarthe, sable church, continues to act in the shadows in order to create a human that has the soul of the lords and a great abyss in itself (many dark sigils) to usurp the first flame.
My question is: WHERE VELKA / Caitha FIT?
@@ChannelYoshimitsu Velka is Dragon.
And I think she is First Flame.
Super interesting!
Thank you! Love your channel too!
Since flamme is linked to human it makes sense that flann is human
豊穣 I'd say 'rich harvest' but since fertility brings rich harvest, 豊穣 translated to 'fertility' is kind of like an indirect expression.