Everything You Need to AWD Swap Your Car!
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- We go over everything we discovered on our travels while making a RWD GTI using AWD parts. This list is a good source for anyone looking to All Wheel Drive swap their VW or Audi model. This info is specific the A chassis vehicles.
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Can I Awd a 2007 Fwd v8 SS Monte Carlo, that would be a beast ( twin turbo ) ....
I have b6 passat 2.0TFSI and they came only in fwd and i am interested if i bought donor car 2.0 FSI without turbo that came with AWD could it be easier to swap that way and i didnt get the electronic integration how would haldex work through the original ecu or would i need also aftermarket haldex controler
the only time this would make sense is if there is strong sentimental attachment to a car while also wanting to test your patience and mechanical ability.
I got my skoda octavia from my parents and we have this car since it was new 14 years ago. Since it is on golf platform im thinking to swap 4x4 drivetrain as well as 1.8 tsi engine.
I think i just need todaled donor car :p
Or if you're trying to make a car that never had an awd option
@@TheCarpenterUnion Octavia, Fabia, Leon, Ibiza, any non-R32 Golf 5, etc.
@@fila1445 I had the same idea, making my 1U2 into a 4x4, but the cost for doing this are way beyond. And the german TÜV also says no, if you don't have it done by a certified pro.
The end of the story, I try to find a decent 1U2 4x4 not worn or too expensive. Good look to you and your project!
@@TheCarpenterUnion base mini r56..... I'm tryna decide on an awd or rwd swap, really depends on if I want to keep it lifted for offroad or If I want to make it a drift mobile
"Should you AWD swap your car? ... The answer is NO! Absolutely not.." 🤣 At least you got that out there right at the start--comedy & truth is why you gotta love this channel :)
why not awd swap?
@@brynx24 it's a joke--too much money and lots of AWD cars out there you could buy instead. But, if you wanna do it, go for it!
@@rolandm9750 Sorry I’m only 16 lol but I’d definitely awd a car I own
It makes sense in only one context, you want to do it to a classic car. I don't know how it's called in America, and there isn't such a big scene doing it there, but where I live is very popular to take a old 70-80 car as a project and retrofit it with all kinds of stuff like abs, traction control, awd, power steering, Ecu... etc. You like don't have the option to just buy a awd similar model if doing this kind of costum project, it just doesn't exist.
Thanx for the vid. Informative and funny as hell
Again, brilliant video, thanks a lot for all the information, I'll come back to you once i get a passat r36 for this project.
you're a saint among men my friend. thank you for posting this
a big thanks for this video!!
Good lord thank you for this video!!in the process of doing a 4motion swap on my mk6 tdi.
Slowly purchasing all the parts (tank and rear end already picked) but I need a daily first before installing 🤣
Finally a mk5 detailed awd swap video, great work!
I love your exercise in hubris man 🤣
Dude is a comedian and brutally honest, subscribed and like stat
If you do the oem awd floor pan you can keep the leak detection stuff as it goes back up into that same spot.
Thankfully it's a lot cheaper over here in the UK as we see many more lower spec cars with Quattro on the mk5 platform; can also confirm that the drivers side (passenger for us!) front driveshaft is the same on 4x4 and FWD (I've done this swap before)
hi mate was wondering how you wired the abs and haldex in as im thinking of doing this build, was hoping paul explained in the vid
@@rajr249 ABS stays the same, but adaptation in central convenience tells the rest of the car that Haldex controller is present. There's a fair bit of wiring involved too, as there's no connector present on the loom for the controller; we ended up running new wiring (stripped from another donor) - that was the least pleasant part of the job and isn't for people that are faint of heart. Sit down with a wiring diagram and the 6 or so wires yourself. If I did it again. Also, fuel gauge doesn't work properly until you recode car as 4x4...
@@rajr249 oh, ABS pump only needs to be changed to get rid of perma-code, and don't forget the ESP sensor too, that's different.
@@samgraham4168 got the Awd prop and gearbox done up, found 2 wires to abs pump 3 wires to back or instrument cluster, 1 earth, 1 to control module under steering column, dont know where the last one goes and which is the + wire for it. Didnt check before I broke the car. You wouldn't happen to know ? Also going to change esp sensor under drivers seat! Any help appreciated!
where can i get a mk6r/mk7r 6 speed manual and diff axles if possible? any fb groups or sites?
We need to know how to swap the old haldex 4/5 to the new haldex with drift mode. Thank you
Its guys like you I appreciate. Way to think ahead man ✊🏿😎
For the price you'd have to pay for a Golf 8R donor or just new Haldex parts it's not worth it
thank you fore the advise
“Because technically you wouldn’t have a prop shaft. You’d have a flop shaft. “. That just killed me. Lol
This comment was so funny to me cuz i read it at the exact moment that line came up in the vid hahahahaahhaahahahhaah
I probably got one of the rare situations where AWD swapping a car is not only useful but necessary for it to function the way i need it to. I have a EV converted dodge charger and im planning on adding a front wheel drivetrain to make it into a ridiculously powerful hybrid.
Damn. I have a modified Škoda Octavia vRS and thought this might be a future option since they never came in AWD, but not after seeing this. Good info
It remind me the TDI swap that I did on a B6 Passat ;) I was sourcing parts to swap it 4 Motion!
I got all I need from a 3.6 4motion Passat, But at the time sourcing a diesel 6 speed manual transmission was way too expensive...
I resold the parts for a profits at least :)
Hey Pauly D what mk is that bevel box coming from? Thanks guy. Great material as always
When I had my mk6.5 GLI I was planning on doing a is38 hybrid swap (non mqb to mqb) and I found a group of guys who had basically perfected it. A couple of them making over 500whp. Anyways I wrecked my car and got a GTI but one of the guys with the hybrid swap in his GLI has gone on to doing an AWD swap and he's just about done with it. So a mk6.5 gli making near 500whp due to being swapped to mqb AND its awd. Just though I'd share a cool project with you guys.
Great video, thought the RWD series was hilarious. Spent about a week being delusional thinking about converting my B6 6MT 2.0T Passat Wagon to haldex because VR AWD's are hard to find in Canada, but bought a clapped out VR Touareg instead. Probably the same cost / pain in the long run.
I converted a 1.8T B5 Passat to RWD using an E46 BMW 320d rear end and a Ford Sierra Type 9 Gearbox.. It required me to cut the rear floor pan and make 2 new mounts for the rear subframe but other than that it was stupidly easy and pretty cheap. The most expensive part of it all was getting a prop shaft made to length tbh.. all in, (that's the price of the Passat, including hybrid turbo, injectors and other supporting mods + all the parts for the RWD swap) it cost less than 5k for a unique 300hp RWD car. I've since sold the car but from what I've heard, it's still going strong.
As I understand it the 3rd gen Haldex went into a few Volvo models, V8 and some T6 XC90s as well as the V8 S80. Fun fact, Volvo went hard on gen 2 Haldex used it in a bunch of mid 2000's models, S40, V50, S60, V70, etc. As far as I know gen2 and gen3 are mechanically identical. The controller software is different, but parts are swap-able. I know all of this because I'm AWD swapping a C30(it's a thing, you can find out about it on the internet).
I will take a look at my Gen2/3 hybrid and see how similar they are to the VW stuff you shared. I'm curious to know if VW haldex controllers work on the Volvo units.
Hey man I plan on doing this as well, how’s it going for you?
Yea me too! But with an xc90, it’d be dope to know if you got it done or not!
How about moving the front suspension/engine trans from a 2wd GTi and mid mounting it in a TT for rwd?
What if you want to make a US version of an Audi RS3 8P? It would require transplanting all of a TTRS or RS3 8V powertrain, so in that case in would just be a few body mods to fit in addition to everything else if starting with a FWD car.
I like how he said AWD is pointless then I looked at R34 Skyline GTR prices lol GTT it is this Vids perfect!!!!
This is how I felt when I converted my A5 8T from 7 speed DSG to 6 speed manual. It’s a project, but makes no financial sense. Unless you can find the parts for super cheap.
It makes a lot of sense.
Dsg transmission is $6k and coded to the vin of The car
6speed swap is half that.
Thoughts on buying a wrecked ford focus rs and swapping the drive train into a Volvo c30 t5?
@Deutscheautoparts where did yall get the taillights for this car???
Any use or knowledge from the Skoda Octavia WRC project? always thought this would be interesting for the US VW fans
Should you AWD your car? No, no you shouldn't. Lol that made my day.
How did you address the cooling lines of the diff?
I could have used this video about 6 months ago haha
EDIT: can confirm front left axle can be re-used.
EDIT 2: If you should happen to have questions about doing this to a MK6 GLI, please feel free to reply, I have done this on a DSG vehicle. 95% of this is the same for the Jetta except for the cutting of the spare tire wheel well, that's not needed.
EDIT 3: After watching the entire video, getting advise from my therapist and wasting way to much money on this project, in crazy goofy voice "I'll do it again".
gli with awd must be a beast. it's probably analogous to a3 in terms of the drivetrain?
@@fastboatster basically when it comes to essential hardware.
With mine being a EA888 gen 3 non MQB platform though it does bring about its complications. The car is essentially MQB software on a PQ35 CANBUS system.
Gen 1 folks don’t have to worry about this at all though. That’s probably way more detail than anyone needs here though.
@@DevineDigital Is there something that I can follow to get some more info on your build? AWD is something I would like to do for my gen 3 gli, but not for a long time lol. Just interested in ur progress.
@@SqugSCX absolutely @devinedigital1 on Instagram I post small things here and there. Currently waiting on a workbench for my lsd install.
@@SqugSCX gen 3 Gli?
Mk3 never got Gli
Well the main reason people awd swap their car is for more grip. If they have a lot of power and can’t put it down through their 2 wheels they just awd swap their car so they can grip more and be able to launch it.
Is there any difference in the Audi A3 Quattro’s and the all wheel drive system on the volts wagon’s I actually was looking into doing this but like you said cheaper to just buy one already on there and swap all my parts
I need to bookmark this so I can watch it again to remind me not to AWD swap my 06 GLI.
It’s Opposite Day so yeah you shouldn’t do the AWD swap.
Is there any awd system that bolts directly on to the mk4 jetta?
planning to buy a fwd mirage asti as my first project car, my first mod is going to make it awd so i can replace the brakes
It is way expensive to swap to AWD in my GTI. Thanks for changing my mind. Maybe next time I’ll just buy a golf R.
4 wheel drive conversions should be done if you have the time money and patience for your project, it should(in my opinion) be done for your project, or what ever you want. Just have the money time and patience. I'm looking into it cos I have a project I'm planning, I was even thinking of using the 4wd system out of an audi or the components from a lightly wrecked one.
Safe to assume the MK5 and a3 8p stuff are identical?
Awesome video, very informative. I’ve got a bit of a pipe dream project car I’d like to hear your opinions on. Now hear me out… I’ve got a 1970s station wagon I’ve always wanted to engine swap, and over the years the idea has evolved into an AWD + engine swap.
My thinking is just get an AWD donor car that’s already equipped with everything I need and do a body swap. Yes a body swap is a costly and timely undertaking on its own, but seems like the better option. I wanna hear your thoughts!
Can someone tell me if you can turn a awd to a rear wheel drive only ?
how possible convert t5 or higher transporter swb with a rear diff lock? i need a awd van but in my country there is not a lot.
That's crazy, no kidding it's better to sell the 2wd and buy a Awd, but! it's awesome to see it done. thanks
Is possible to buy a full swap from audi s3 8p and put it on my a3 8p dsg without modifications ? Thanks
Hey ! I'm thinking the other way, i've got a MKV R32 but i would like to remove the 4 motion (prop shaft, transfer case and rear case). The only wall i'm facing is coding the car to remove electronicaly the 4 motion ! Any ideas ? Thank you !
Would this be the same as if you wanted to do it with a Peugeot 206 GTI..??
What kind of car would I need to awd a Cadillac seville?
Are there any cars besides a skyline with a longitudinal AWD layout?
What if one already has an awd vehicle and is looking for different motors to swap
Hi guys. I have a question maybe you can help me.
I need to know the code for rear diff fluid.
My car has haldex 4.
2011 skoda octavia 4x4 basically same as golf mk6 4motion wagon
I tried every option parts stores mecanic's eaven searched my self after vin number the thing is after vin number it results the G052 diff oil, there s aftermarket support for that and after type of vehicle search it results the G055 oil wich is like 150$ for 1 liter no after market support.
Cand you guys help me out i'vs seen you worked on mk5 golf it has same haldex as my car, maybe you changed it.
I live in canada, I'm trying to ls swap my car and make 800whp hopefully, should I consider doing an AWD if I want to daily the car and be more safe during the Winter?
I have an audi a3 2007 base model and wish I had AWD would it be bolt on if i find all the pieces necessary on ebay from an a3 quattro?
Transmission question. I have a manual trans Golf Alltrack (obv already 4motion) and I just want to change the gearing. Could I put the right diff inside an mk5/6 gti trans and pull off it's passenger axle flange and that's it? Use the Alltrack bevel box, etc. Or, Could I drop all the gti gearing into my Alltrack trans housing?
Yeah, I shouldn't do it. But what if I want a manual 4 motion TDI?
Hey does a gen 4 ttrs haldex work in a mk5 gti?? Is it any different than the mk6 r?? Can’t find anything on this
Watching this cos I’m thinking of swapping my st to awd as it’s just a track car anyway and best way to improve lap times is awd it fwd ain’t cutting it now 🤣
I have a CRV's B20 engine, and I want to install it on a Willys jeep, so that it can be AWD, what do I need?
please help me
i was thinking of doing this to my tiguan is a 6 speed manual. but like you said it gets very expensive.
So what do I do if the car I'm trying to do never came with AWD? I know some older civics came with AWD but the 9th gen Honda accord didn't.
What about a year 2000 gti golf. Is it posable for me make that a AWD car
If your not in a hurry you can piece a swap together for a decent price. It will take a lot of time and searching tho. I got a complete tiguan rear end for $150, a low mile tiguan rear diff for $150, TT bevel box for $150, CC AWD gas tank for $50.
My MK6 for example, I can source parts. Is installation fairly straight forward from your point of view?
If you were to use a DSG 02E on a mkv gti wouldn't you only need to get a transfer case and spindle from a mkvr32?
Does the A3 8P MK2 rear fubframe fit or needs 2008-2012?
Ok let say I have a 16 Passat 3.6. Those years didn't come AWD but the older 12 did but those from what I can tell used the o9g auto garbage. So what if I want to AWD swap the 16 Passat keeping my dsg and add some turbos. Would this still be a dumb swap?
Would you happen to have a full parts list to do it?
88 town car aod trans. 5.0 engone. so the ford explorer from the 90s has some 4x4 stuff. any thaughts dudes? i just learned the term prop shaft!
I already have a awd 2003 bmw 325ix, i want to engine swap but i dont know if all engines are compatible for a awd. And im in California so i want it street legal
What if the AWD version of the car you want to convert is houndeds of thousands more than your current version (ie r34 gtr to its rwd r34 skyline)
I want to do this to my Kia Cerato Koup TD :)
hey I'm looking to build a 1968 mercury cougar,AWD,,can you recommend anything i can use as a donor..
Wut do I need for a mk5 gli nd keep my 2.0T
Scirocco R deserve that swap more than any Gti.
Been there done that so couldn't agree more 😁
Swaping a car to awd is a useles thing that's awesome to do
Hypothetically lol... nissan juke. The awd is automatic and the fwd is 6spd manual. Would it be easier to get the awd and covert to manual than to convert the manual to awd? Sorry but I really enjoy the thought of a manual 6spd juke. Thank you love the content
Wonder how difficult this would be on a MK7 GLI
I want an AWD E30 but they’re really rare so I was thinking just doing it. I only found 1 325IX and it was unlisted months ago.
Can you do this with a gen2 Subaru BRZ?
Now my question is can you do it to a 2015 jetta tdi facelift
2 maybe 3 awd projects planned. Miata maybe with a Honda awd set up like civics for racing use keep the hp low ish like 350. More likely just a rwd engine swap.
2 deffs at some point awd plans. 4 door gtst to gtr conversion. Either with an rb30 block with 25 or 26 heads. Or a custom rb30 rb26 and 2jz hybrid from Australia. Or potentially a newer v6 style gtr or z platform engine. Upgraded awd system based off attessa but electronic and faster scanning and more programmable.
350z awd with a gtr style awd system but using some g35 bits. Gtr transmission and transfer case. G35 bits for the front suspension and hubs. Some stock 350z suspension bits. 350z engine but built. Maybe upgrade to an r35 engine. Widebody kit and extra rubber in the rear should help a bit with the added front weight. Since race car show car daily sports car. Eventually some custom or aftermarket suspension bits to reduce weight back to stock in the front. Weigh less than a skyline same awd system but now more programmable and can turn it off at will to rwd for drifting. Interior has to partially be re done but still looks factory so aftermarket bits can be used to make some of it easy. Since aftermarket gtr awd bits for sensors and computers and aftermarket ecus and other stuff. Means some reduced weight off the system and space. And reduced space off the stock ecu and wiring. Hide a mini car computer diy in it. Ssd storage and a connection to the ecu for tuning. Add in a sim card reader and attena and bam diy car wifi.
Some of the stuff for the 350 also applies to the gtr conversion. Reduces weight increases performance and actually saves money long term on the conversion and build. Improves reliability. But both projects are gonna require so much build time and work.
Basically instead of paying big money for certain oem gtr bits. You can spend similar sometimes less or only a little more for huge upgrades. Aftermarket billet transfer case and the aftermarket upgraded transmissions being examples. Though the lighter car means less stress starting with something 1000whp capable on an awd gtr means its done besides bear sets on the 350z. And should require less maintenance and servicing.
Daily 4 door suoer car slayer family car. Lighter smaller more sporty looking 2 seater coupe super car slayer. Both at probably 800 to 1000whp for like 50k each or less depending. Skyline cost a bit more since I want it done right and might use some r35 bits.
Can find a good clean manual 350z in buildable condition for 5k or less. Even expensive option with the 16-18k sequential or dct transmissions. Say 23k, billet transfer case I think was 3k. If I remember correctly the other attesa bits was like 2k for the upgraded one. The g35 bits not that expensive I'd say probably 5k at most.
Body work 2 days so figure a couple grand at worst.
Ecu couple grand for fancy one.
All out engine and turbo. Like 10k on engine work 7k turbo set up
Diy you could probably into it on all brand new bits for like 50k and be pumping pretty high horse power awd. Potentially less.
One of the cheaper transmissions options. See about a stock transfer case from Nissan maybe a nismo upgraded one is available for less.
But then you also have a bunch of spare bits to sell. And I'd you get one with the body work for a widebody already done cheap and or some turbo and engine work you might not need as much. If you can build the engine yourself and put together a cheaper turbo set up.
If you can get the g35 bits cheaper than I guessed which is probably the case.
Skyline starts where I live for a gtst for like 10k. Add like 30k for the engine from aussie but good for thousands of hp. Just need some turbos. Rest is very similar except a few more expensive gtr bits. And the necessary body work.
But last I checked like 60 to 70k. Maybe more depending how fancy you go. Might be able to save a bit in some places.
Lowest I figured the awd 350z conversion would be like 35k ish meaning potentially sub 40k. Lowest for the gtr like 55k ish.
350z more stock. Gtr still pretty custom and the closer you get to factory gtr for certain shit the more money. Especially if you want built factory gtr. Custom highly built gtr with a bunch of factory shit removed and new interior cheaper.
For my gtr a little bit more given left hand drive conversion. But less than if I was trying to fully emulate the stock interior. The touch displays are dying and annoying to replace. So custom infotainment. But still inspired off the stock just modernized like a resto mod.
Plus the 4 door Skyline perfect family car for the r34. Big car anyways why not take advantage of the 4 door life. Diy car computer also means easy to do diy headrest displays and other cool stuff.
For the price of buying a gtr and building it to similar levels. I get something more custom. Just as fast or faster. More unique. And modernized everywhere almost. So show car race car daily car cause the gtr can be dailied when built right if you do regular maintenance which is reduced in cost my route. Plus a family car. 350z cheaper gtr that's a 2 seater and with the 350z body kits available you can make look very very sporty.
Gtr kind of a sleeper. 350z a sleeper but in a completely different sense. And monsters are different to rwd monsters.
Also means for the gtr I can build in a roll cage that's hidden super easy given it's a full rebuild. 350z leave alone to start. Extra strength and stiffness hidden so stock look except a few peekaboos and you can still have bolt in side bars for track days but cleaner and hidden mounts. And keeps passengers safer. Plus the 4 door body would have to be made stiffer for the doors. And the rear door front frame gives you a perfect spot to hide a side bar that runs vertical. Both side of the floor. Front pillars rear pillars frame between the front and rear doors covers roof sides floor and connects the whole chassis.
Cause body work means paint. Do the bondo or body filler yourself properly. Thin down to bare metal as little as possible. Get a cheap maaco or similar paint job. Then polish and smooth out the paint yourself. Use as a cheap primer. Have nice final color coat and clear done on top but less work for the expensive painters to do.
Because old gtst likely needs work you save some money going straight to conversion upgrades like lights as well. Upgraded straight to modern brighter leds. Any custom body kit stuff can also help versus getting high end stock body kit panels.
I got a mo4 Jetta gli 1.8t that I wanna convert to all wheel drive
I want to do this on my car but only because the volvo c30 does not come with AWD as an option but because it shares a platform with other volvo models that also have AWD equipped as an option makes an awd swap is supposedly a bolt on project with some modification to the wiring harness. Theres not many guide videos on that though just videos of people with the end result already done
I drive an Audi A5 8F convertible. I associate a lot of beautiful memories with this car, and I've also revised a lot and tuned it. I prefer a manual switch ... unfortunately the A5 Cabriolet with the CNCD engine was never built as a quattro, but as an automatic version. The conversion would unfortunately be much too complex and might not work properly.
Greetings from Germany
Almost same I have a Audi A4 b5 r4 single turbo fwd but I’m not sure
I would assume this would also work for a beetle?
Hey guys I have a p0191 and p0089 code I just got today on my mk5 gti. Anything you would recommend to look at / replace! Thank you guys
Is that Honda Civic 2022 can be used awd?
Funny I just watched the RWD series yesterday, would love to make a Mk7 tdi sport wagon AWD
I’ve been wondering the same since I got my Mk7 GSW TDI.
You say I shouldn't AWD swap my car? What if I already swapped my Chevy SSR's 5.3L with a 7L LS7 and I want as much trackion on the drag strip as possible?
I would love to do this with a kia cadenza and a stinger awd platform
How can I do it for my 09 impala
I can give at least ONE reason why I would want to awd swap my car. I can actually give you more than on reason!!
OK, what about swapping an automatic car, such as the Arteon, to a 6-sp manual????
I have a 2012 VW Beetle TDI Cabrio with a manual. It's lifted on 27" tires. I'd like awd to go down deep sand and slippery snow. I can't buy a cabrio that gets 54mpgs and can tow my camper trailer haha. Seems like a good idea, sorta sketched though.
I think you guys stop playing games and just throw that S4 v6 all-wheel drive in that car great videos keep up the good work
Can you make a 2014 chevorlet camaro LT AWD
can you turn my fwd a4 to quattro ?
what about mk4 chassis? Interested in Doing an R32 jetta swap
Would you recommend doing this on a mk3 Scirocco, or something else wich never came with 4wd from the factory?
highly recommended.
The only time this swap makes sense to me is to swap to a car that was never AWD like a beetle.. If mine was AWD, I would have kept it instead of getting an S3. For exhaust, cheapest to get one close and then just mod it. e.g. I got a GTI exhaust off ebay, then cut off the outlets and modified to work for my Beetle.
I have a 2012 Beetle Turbo and I'm seriously considering it!