How Japanese MOTORCYCLE POLICE Get Such a Perfect Balance on a Motorcycle
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2023
- This is a review of one of many exercises of Japanese motorcycle police. Can we ride like them?
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A little info about me. My name is Andrei Bodrov, originally I'm from Moscow, Russia, and now I live in Buenos Aires, Argentina. Back in Moscow I was a motorcycle instructor and creator of Moto Control Beginner & Advanced motorcycle rider courses, which quickly became the most popular courses in Moscow (well, at least the advanced one😁). My advanced training course makes emphasis on slow speed riding techniques at first (such as good clutch and throttle control, proper riding posture, proper use of vision, etc.), then proceeds to more advanced techniques (such as aggressive braking, trail braking, maximal lean angle). The course incorporates a lot of exercises from DOSAF slow speed riding (similar to police rodeo like motorcycle training in USA), braking and cornering exercises and motogymkhana style riding. And now, since I actively learn English - I decided to post some useful videos for both your and mine practice!😉
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Since everyone writes this, it's necessary, I suppose 🤷, so here we go. Disclaimer: Ride at your own risk, you are responsible for your own safety. Me, Andrey Bodrov and my channel, Moto Control disclaim any liability incurred in connection with the use of riding techniques from this channel. Use common sense, wear full protective gear and ride in a safe and predictable manner!
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I practice this balancing act at every stoplight and stop sign. My goal is to do an entire trip never putting a foot down. Very handy is slow stop/go traffic.
i've always done this for fun pm everywhere, not all the time but when it looks feasible
Same! Zach Courts' Daily RIDERS got me into that. I feel like it's cool, but I fear a cop might stop me, thinking I didn't come to a full stop at signs, ha. (Agreed, it's perfect for stop and go!)
@@TravisTerrell nice. I haven't seen that channel, will check it out.
The floor is lava - street edition
It would be really impressive if you can do it in a hilly road
I was a Marine Military Police Motors Patrol officer in Okinawa Japan from 96-99. We trained with the JP motors unit a few times on base . They were amazing riders ! And 1999 was the last year of the Marines Motors unit . It was in operation from 85-99. I was the very last Motors Unit in Okinawa.
I love this channel.
I think that the trick is having police lights running. Makes all the difference 😂
Please, do a content explaining the fast Japanese like u-turn. Pretty cool!
Thank you.
Added gyroscopic effect, of course, how I haven't thought about it😆
@@MotoControlEn😂😂😂
Glad to see you cover the Japanese motorcycling I’ve seen bits and pieces of it but wasn’t sure how they’re doing it. Keep it up!
As always your insightful commentary and demonstrations in slow spreed manoeuvres are brilliant, in my opinion the best out there.
I was ‘slow bike race’ champion at my primary school sports day in the 80’s. I need to rekindle those skills on my new Triumph Tiger 1200 as my legs are so short!
I guess you nailed their way of doing it.
Great content as always. A real pleasure to watch your videos!
I like when the Japanese moto cops do u-turns with no hands! I practiced for a while, but stopped before I ever got good enough to be able to do it reliably. You should try it!
Wow, absolutely loved the contents! Learn so much from your explanations as to why they do each of the things in the video. Keep them coming!
Yes, please do more of these detailed exercise breakdowns, I found this one very interesting. Thanks!
Brilliant video....Thank you so much !
I work on slow speed control & have prior watched footage of Japanese bike cops.
I am UK based advanced rider with respect for what is shown here by Japanese Police & YOU !
I ride Gen1 Honda CB1000RA with Combined Braking & ABS.
I believe the 5th Gen VFR800 also had ABS...exclusive to the Police Spec models.
Really good to see/hear the breakdown & also you demonstrating.
My main concerns in practice are damage &/or injury.
Thanks again 👍🏍👏😎
I can relate to that big guy in the background struggling with his bike.
You ARE the bomb, which is 'old school' speak for Great!! Thanks and keep posting your videos and commentary.
Awesome drill. I do try coming to a stop without putting my feet down. Looking straight forward is key.
Would like to see more of these trainings with you. Will test this out too now.
Amazing content! One problem I have with this is waiting too long to put my foot down if I start to fall. Invariably, my heel catches on the footpeg. It's really hard to lift up when your body is screaming at you to put your foot down.
Yes, that's why I always advocate for keeping feet on footpegs🙂
I remember a TV show once. Where a factory Rider from Japan took a large displacement Suzuki street bike to a 1/4 mile drag strip. Everyone was thinking that this is going to be real fast. And it was.
Except in his case he launched from the start line in a stand up wheelie and apparently went through the gearbox and never set her down. Everyone was floored.
Loved this video. The perfect timing and balance. Amazing.
This exercise is a combination of basic trials maneuvers. In trials riding, to make a right turn, the rider stands on the left peg and pushes the right handlebar down (really down and slightly forward) to lean the bike to the right. There should be space between the rider's left knee and the seat. The right leg is not needed at all -- the rider's foot may be lifted off the peg, if desired. But, the right knee will be in contact with the seat simply because the motorcycle is being leaned to the right and the rider's lower body remains essentially upright. You do NOT want to hold the tank with your knees, however. Reverse of the above for left turn. The balancing exercise shown is a combination of left and right turns, with the rider repeatedly alternating between the two very quickly. It helps to practice these turns on a bicycle first to get the balance point between the force applied to the peg (pedal) and the force applied to the handlebar on the opposite side. In the example above, the force on the handlebar must momentarily exceed the force on the peg to make the motorcycle lean and turn (once the bike is turning in a desired arc, the forces are equalized). A more advanced (and more difficult) version of the trials turn is where the force on the foot peg momentarily exceeds the force on the handlebar on the opposite side of the bike. In that case, the motorcycle will lean to the side of the weighted peg (e.g., left side of the motorcycle), and the bars will automatically turn in the same direction (left) -- most likely to full lock.
I got a ticket from a cop for failure to stop at a stop sign. I could see him as I came to a stop, then he pulled me over after I resumed riding. He said it isn’t considered a complete stop if I don’t touch a foot to the ground. 🤷🏻♂️
I get plenty of practice by riding in NY beach traffic during the summer time and NYC traffic in general (even in the dead of winter) and I was so happy to have moved on from heavy cruisers to more lightweight sport oriented bikes.
Riders who do trail riding over obstacles have great balance to navigating over boulders, trees, or other obstacles. Their bikes are super light and agile. On the street I have never placed as much importance on balancing on a street bike in traffic. It is a good maneuver to practice for balance but not really needed unless you have a ton of stops in your everyday rides.
Perhaps, however I've found that practices like these really get you in tune with your bike. Being able to modulate the throttle and brakes, as well as being able to feel minute differences in balance will improve overall control at speed, not just in slow maneuvers.
When it comes to slow speed stuff. Nothing impresses me as much as trials riding.
Great upload 👌
Stay safe out there everyone ❤
Very cool! 👍🏽
Wow - that's real control!
Interesting bars the Japanese cops put on their VFRs. I have the same model VFR. Great bike.
Thanks pal👍
Great video. I like slow cornering ect. I practice a few times a week. I'm interested in you online advanced riding course. I like to do so much more tricks on the motorbike, so every course is helpfull. In the Netherlands there is no course in slow cornering, so please let us know when your course is online. What i like to see and explaned on the Channel is how to became of the fear of falling in corners during rain/wet road conditions. How can i overcome this fear on rainy days? How can i became better on this point?
Maybe no front brake with lever but they are VFR800’s with linked brakes, so they automatically have front brake applied when back brake is applied.
On a road bike this is a standard track stand. But you get a lot less steering lock on a motorcycle. On a bike you just turn the bars until the wheel is almost perpendicular and hold the front brake.
About the ball vs arch of the foot off road, it was hard for me until I started using proper boots with rigid soles. The ones in the video seem way to soft to relax your calves standing in the balls. Also even more than the "suspension" I think it's helpful because you aren't accidentally kicking the levers or getting your toes caught in branches/touching the floor when you bottom out the suspension
It's a balance (see what I did there?) between balance, toes touching the ground or something worse, and accessing gears and rear brake. I tend to use the front brake to avoid having to keep shifting balance and my feet but everyone is different.
4:38 no fingers on the front brake.
They are using a trials format as that's what they ride when starting Police training at the offroad riding schools .
It seems they go into the box with the bars turned sharply to the right, then never deviate from that angle unless stationary and even then only slightly.
Hi. How do you keep rims clean without stripping the paint?
I was lucky enough to take this kind of course whilst being a police officer and yes the Japanese sent their best riders to the UK to learn how to ride like this.
They were fantastic at the slow riding probably better than us brits, but when out on the road they were so slow. It was explained to me the average speed in Japan was 60 mph, so 120 mph in a country lane was too fast for them
I love doing Japanese style U-turns.Sometimes I freak my self out because things happen quicker.
In fact this exercise is difficult on the linked-brakes VFR Gen 5- both brakes are applied
Do more please 👍🏽
The VFR and FJR in shirobai configuration, very very quiet bikes, really surprised me when they pulled someone near my workplace. In comparison, even my stock 250 Honda was noisy as hell 😅
EDIT: Has it rained yet over there?
No, they are forecasting tomorrow though😁
@@MotoControlEn Looking forward for the detailed content :D
the last part is the best because otherwise my clutch will press charges for abuse
can someone tell me what handlebars they are using, these are not standard bars.
This looks like a handy technique for parking in a tight spot. Do you use it much on the road?
As it was covered in last video of FortNine ,four fingers on clutch is standard practice in police riding trainings ... and don't forget that Japanizes practice karate since kinder garden 😅
Whats the bike VFR800P?
do they run a vfr 800? it's my dream bike!!
Training and practice? Seems like the way to go to me.
can you do this with a large adventure motorcycle ?
Notice how they look over their shoulder (for traffic) before pulling off.
Hey Andrei, I closely follow your training on UA-cam and I practice slow speed maneuvers almost every day in an open parking lot. I have lot of success with almost all of the maneuvers on BMW GS 1250 adventure but I am really struggling with most of the maneuvers on performance sports bike Aprilia Tuono since the handlebar does not turn at all. in most tight situation I feel like handlebar is hitting a big wall and bike is tipping over and the bike moves even with the clutch completely disengaged due to its ridiculous power. Would you suggest not doing these on this kind of powerful liter bikes ?
I wouldn't wouldn't suggest, of course😄 But really sportbikes are simply not made for all that slow-speed riding. Since you got 2 bikes you can use each one for what is built for!
@@MotoControlEn You are the best and your judgement is spot on
@@MotoControlEnmakes sense but why do some good moto gymkhana riders still use sportbikes?
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Hi Andrey, I hear a contradiction in 4m45 and 5m10 about the direction of the handlebar and bike leaning?¿¿
It's not a contradiction, I guess I just worded it badly. On 4.45 it's just an observation, that bike leans right and handlebars must be turned right, otherwise it will fall down. On 5.10 it's about dynamic state: when you turn handlebars more to the right (in comparison to its current position) bike wants to tip more to the left (again, in comparison to its current position). I hope it makes sense🙂
Mr. Andrey-teacher, In 4m45 you tell this like a physical rule! - Here it just depends on the balancing of the officer!
Hope you remember my earlier comment about countersteering:: "- There is NO turning without co-u-ntersteering,--- even if it is only for a small part of a second...
Proof:
Block the handlebar of a bike in Staight position - and try to TURN by LEANING YOUR BODY.
REALITY will be shown by hitting the ground immediately!!!
The "stability of a one-line-vehicule" in fact is a constant/steady-swinging while turning wheels!""
Druzhba 😜
Yeah it looks great , any competent bike rider doing the amount of practice practice practice that they do would sort it out.
Could you please make a video on riding with a pillion!😄
I will eventually😁
@@MotoControlEn Thank you. Your videos helped me a lot. You are a good teacher✌️
You made comments that the foot position at the pegs is on the balls of feet in an off-road position. Do you really stand on the balls of your feet with off-road riding and standing? Your quads would be fatigued pretty quickly. You'll find more pros have the pegs closer to their heels and flex their ankles quite a bit to do so while positioning their hips in line with their ankles. Allowing flexion at the knees too, but not as much as if on the balls of your feet.
Looks like 3 fingers on the clutch with pointer finger straight on the grip
Need very well bedded brakes and clutch.
I'm from Arg. Where is that parking lot ?
Tecnopolis
Where do they look?
this is literally the test from my country to get a license for riding a basic motorcycle , most people just pay the officer
Easier to install a sidecar, you even have a free hand for a beer...
Cheers 🍻
There is a Japanese motorcycle test item where you do the half-stand position and go over a series of small speed bumps at a controlled speed. That is very difficult as well.
ua-cam.com/video/3rAkOhwgqTM/v-deo.html
Around 7mins is that obstacle.
I am from Singapore which adapted the Japanese test. This really is one of the most difficult to pass in the world.
Nice use of short bursts of throttle to negotiate the slalom.
Who uses just 1 finger on the clutch? Or better yet, who doesn't use all 4 fingers??
more show than practical on a small bike, esp if the bike is < 120kg + you can flat foot both feet...
I really like these bikes. Can you get some details on this bike, CC, weight, height ect..
Honda make great machines. I would like one minus the lights and sirens. 🚨
Honda vfr 800
my bike is not smooth enough to do this
Nice. Now do it on a VFR.
Buy me one, I'll do it no problem😄
@@MotoControlEn I know you would. I was going actually to buy one (5th gen VFR as in the video) this weekend but I got my bank account hacked. Sad times.
Dont say sorry again Black Metal man
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Twisting bars from left to right is bad technique. If you learn it and it becomes your main technique you compromise your abilities.
The ballancing should be done with knees, hips and of course rear brake and clutch. Only with minor handlebar inputs.
Same techniques is applies to trackstant on MTB, or trial bikes where you use pedal pressure instead of engine power.
How the Japanese police go in and out Ballards? 👍🏍️
Бэд инглиш 😂
埼玉県警察 交通機動隊
60 кг разницы в весе мотика, но руль ниже, а рост наверное выше
You forgot one reason. They ride Honda motorcycles! lol🤣
Must be interesting being four feet tall.
А где на русском?
I've seen Motojitsu doing better, and from seated position. So, take a seat.
You can try both variables. Standing or sitting. Each provides different insights. Try it all!
I was stopped by a Police officer and he claimed that I didn't come to a complete stop because I didn't put my foot down at a stop sign. I demonstrated my balance and he just gave me a warning with a Smirk. Now I just Blow through stop signs and dare them to catch me....
In Soviet Russia, bike rides you