Protoss Colossus is Insanely Underrated! StarCraft 2 Finals

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  • Опубліковано 20 січ 2024
  • StarCraft 2 Tournament 2024 Korean SC2 League Finals - Nightmare duels with ByuN in an incredibly entertaining Protoss vs Terran. Make sure you watch the final game!
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  • @bongkem2723
    @bongkem2723 4 місяці тому +51

    the colossus in that last game is in fact an immortal :)))

  • @TheWarriorXander
    @TheWarriorXander 4 місяці тому +56

    Nightmare earning that nickname "The Surgeon" in a couple of those games, got exactly what he needed and cut through Byun's defenses like a scalpel. Looking forward to seeing Winter cast more series from Nightmare.

    • @bt920
      @bt920 4 місяці тому +4

      Hell yeah! Nightmare is my new favorite player to watch

    • @felisrising7160
      @felisrising7160 4 місяці тому +2

      And then for the other games Byun just slapped him and called him a nerd

  • @Existential_Tempest
    @Existential_Tempest 4 місяці тому +52

    The tactical thought on display here by NightMare was just a cut above. His fundamentals were brilliant - just about every major fight included a flanking force to close down and pin the Terran army - and then so frequently there was some sort of unexpected trick introduced on top of that. Sending a warp prism to drop a sentry to forcefield the ramp‽ I mean, come on, that's awesome!

    • @ManDuderGuy
      @ManDuderGuy 4 місяці тому +2

      Flippin heckin awesome!

    • @GrippeeTV
      @GrippeeTV 4 місяці тому +2

      That was absolutely genius

    • @Roguedeus
      @Roguedeus 4 місяці тому +3

      If NightMare continues this, he is going to make me as excited to watch his Protos, as I am to see Serral's Zerg.

  • @MrGeorgeFlorcus
    @MrGeorgeFlorcus 4 місяці тому +16

    Man, I really hope this is a Knightmare break-out year. Outside of World Team League, where he makes a huge percentage of his income, Knightmare is normally relegated to smaller, weekly tournaments. Which I think is a shame, because seeing what he can do at his best, he really has the potential.
    The incredible precision with which he moves and positions his units, the decisive timing of his attacks and counterattacks, his (in my opinion) unmatched usage of vision and Observer placement, he plays so differently from other Protoss. There's clearly an exceptionally intelligent and creative mind working away there. If he can get his mechanical skills up to par with his intelligence, he could absolutely see success in the big leagues.

  • @vanyel_etc8695
    @vanyel_etc8695 4 місяці тому +3

    that game 5 kill was absolutely phenomenal. So much of the way people describe protoss is as if they have no value outside of their killing ball, but Nightmare showing two stunning intricacies in both his micro of a 50 kill colossus AND his ability to surround so well.
    When Byun came in at the end, just before Byun got to the ramp, Nightmare split his zealots into bottom left of the map behind the mineral line of the next base over (the 5th?). That foresight singlehandedly disallowed Byun to escape. It's one of those things that is great in theory but in practice you just never think about it.
    Also, what a wonderful showcase of templar. If you just play literally perfect you can beat terran without a single disruptor!

    • @beagleplease8693
      @beagleplease8693 2 місяці тому

      byun scanned and saw units moving round to flank him and still kept moving forward, he had plenty of time to back off there and not take a braindead engagement. in fact if he'd stimmed and ran at the northern flank attempt he probably kills a bunch of the toss army for free

  • @skipperg4436
    @skipperg4436 4 місяці тому +2

    What I REALLY like about this series is that whenever Nightmare tried typical ladder Protoss BS he got kicked right in his face, but when he played Protoss properly he rolled over Buyns army.

  • @bcozmusic9271
    @bcozmusic9271 11 днів тому

    "You know probes sort of look like fish" is some of the best protoss commentary ive ever heard

  • @TritonTv69420
    @TritonTv69420 4 місяці тому +9

    I didnt know jimmy got up this early on weekends!

  • @pepper5158
    @pepper5158 4 місяці тому +5

    Having watched games 2 and 3 it seems that Nightmare's overall strategy is forcing the point at the exact timing that ghosts begin to enter the equation to prevent them from having an impact.

  • @diebuekill
    @diebuekill 4 місяці тому +24

    The lengths protoss have to go through are crazy. A 50 kill unit should almost be a instant GG but the match was still pretty close.

    • @AlexanderVoroncov
      @AlexanderVoroncov 4 місяці тому +6

      Yeah terran eco is insane

    • @lokir.4974
      @lokir.4974 4 місяці тому +3

      50 kill unit? sounds like the average siege tank

    • @user-ym9dz5uy2v
      @user-ym9dz5uy2v 4 місяці тому +2

      to be fair he made a few mistakes to balance that out lol

    • @theNefariousNoogie
      @theNefariousNoogie 4 місяці тому +4

      @@lokir.4974 Sounds like the average set and forget widow mine 😂

    • @orangepearlf40
      @orangepearlf40 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@AlexanderVoroncovmules are training wheels for terran players. The only race that needs training wheels..

  • @zackstamper5628
    @zackstamper5628 4 місяці тому +3

    Winter is the best, always puts me in a better mood and I love his sense of humor. Thanks winter 💪🙏

  • @wetgoo5416
    @wetgoo5416 4 місяці тому +4

    Glad I found you. Great commentating! You’re very entertaining!😊

  • @bigtruck1838
    @bigtruck1838 4 місяці тому +6

    Seen terrans get dismantled warms my heart, that said they gonna get protoss nerfed look at what happens every time serral dominates their top players

    • @theNefariousNoogie
      @theNefariousNoogie 4 місяці тому +2

      100% agreed, on both counts. Seeing a colossus get 50 kills they're probably going to nerf prism micro or add delay to unit attack when getting dropped from a prism. You know, because actively microing your units to get 50 kills is so much easier than set and forget. 😂

    • @orangepearlf40
      @orangepearlf40 4 місяці тому +5

      I dismantled a terran on the ladder. They lifted all their buildings and flew in all corners and walked away from the keyboard -> beta sissy fit.
      I'll never play terran in sc2 it can make you a beta male. I'm not kidding. Sc1 yes, I'll play terran..

    • @GajoDoPau
      @GajoDoPau 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@orangepearlf40cringe

  • @dagroth123
    @dagroth123 4 місяці тому +2

    man, i'm so glad to see a protoss mix adapts into their formations. it's supposed to be a diverse force, not just zealot spam.
    mind you, he did a ton of other really good shit, like really really good stuff.
    i want to see more of this from protoss.

  • @phillycheese1563
    @phillycheese1563 4 місяці тому +2

    That colossus was absolutely insane! Great game!

  • @dajosh42069
    @dajosh42069 9 днів тому

    Wooooow
    This was an amazing game. I didn't know Nightmare had it in him....but he's amazing.
    He started doing the micro-trick with his Colossus like Byun was doing with his Cyclones. That was an incredible match up! Both really are StarCraft 2 legends!

  • @FarnhamIII
    @FarnhamIII 4 місяці тому +4

    Hey Winter, my dog drowned yesterday and you were the only thing that got me through the night. Watching your Palworld stream kept me happy. I've been watching you for at least a decade now and really appreciate you. You're affecting people in ways you could never imagine. Much love.
    R.I.P. Scooter 7-7-07 - 1-21-24 I love you so much buddy.

  • @snowpython
    @snowpython 4 місяці тому +4

    I'm excited to see more nightmare. We have been losing a lot of good protoss players

  • @Yobettywhite
    @Yobettywhite 4 місяці тому +4

    If you casted a Hell's Kitchen Episode 😂😭🤣
    Keep being the gangster you are mate!

  • @WolfGangDealers
    @WolfGangDealers 4 місяці тому +1

    Woah, I haven’t heard of Nightmare before. Im super excited to see what he’s capable of in this game.

  • @jcyoungpine918
    @jcyoungpine918 4 місяці тому +3

    His commentary is A1 and enjoyable. 💯

  • @wearethefieryheartmoons1639
    @wearethefieryheartmoons1639 4 місяці тому

    One of my favourite series so far, interesting matches, might rewatch again tonight haha ^_^.

  • @robertr.hasspacher7731
    @robertr.hasspacher7731 3 місяці тому

    great match. Always warms my heart when someone makes toss look OP again

  • @paulcho
    @paulcho 4 місяці тому +2

    byun lookin so sharp with his early game micro

  • @Neesmo
    @Neesmo 4 місяці тому +1

    What an amazing series by these 2 and it was only made better by having the best commentator in the business to go with it! thanks for this winter

  • @Sianthris
    @Sianthris 4 місяці тому

    Wow, that Protoss assault was something. Seeing BYUN struggle to hold the gates was not what i expected, but i am so glad i got!

  • @weaponizedemoticon1131
    @weaponizedemoticon1131 4 місяці тому

    What a beautiful trap there at the end. Well done.

  • @WookofWallstreet
    @WookofWallstreet 4 місяці тому

    Absolutely love your content

  • @R1po
    @R1po 4 місяці тому

    Nice matches. Especially the third one showed some strategic thinking. Well played.

  • @KingOfNebbishes
    @KingOfNebbishes 4 місяці тому +8

    Terrans are the new Protoss, in that everything is about cheese or about late deathball with them.

  • @christophercoates3431
    @christophercoates3431 4 місяці тому +72

    Auto-like every video. Nothing but quality commentary, every match.

    • @georgeromaniajr.2680
      @georgeromaniajr.2680 4 місяці тому

      I only watch Winter

    • @nmgaro2156
      @nmgaro2156 4 місяці тому

      We need this for sure

    • @benjamin6206
      @benjamin6206 4 місяці тому

      Winter is easily the best caster I've seen. He's a masterclass

  • @kusland6786
    @kusland6786 4 місяці тому

    Pure protoss tricks. Thanks you Nightmare !

  • @marvinericdelosreyes
    @marvinericdelosreyes 4 місяці тому

    Nightmare's micro is on point. Most pros I saw on your channel just does attack move on most clashes but he hits the right target specially on game two where there are depots to sponge attacks but almost the whole fight no unit of his attacked those depots.

  • @seahr2
    @seahr2 4 місяці тому

    Thank the gs for your channel

  • @TRP_TheRandomPlace
    @TRP_TheRandomPlace 4 місяці тому

    Game of the year for me. So enjoyable to watch!

  • @TheKaosism
    @TheKaosism 4 місяці тому

    One of the most entertaining games from Protoss in a long time.

  • @Unifiedesign
    @Unifiedesign 4 місяці тому +1

    I think Nightmare's card deserves an upgrade from Rare to Epic after this one.

  • @Skylivedk
    @Skylivedk 4 місяці тому

    Nightmare played like a dream in the 2nd and especially 3rd game. Great to see some creativity, flanking and deception mixed!

  • @slevinlaine
    @slevinlaine 4 місяці тому

    LETS GO!! :D Another protoss.

  • @khivo2854
    @khivo2854 4 місяці тому +1

    please cast more of nightmare i love seeing terran getting crushed by protoss

  • @cathulionetharn5139
    @cathulionetharn5139 4 місяці тому +2

    Thank You
    Om nom nom

  • @ex0696
    @ex0696 3 місяці тому

    Damn bro you really improved your show… also you still young as you was 3 years ago. Big ups

  • @romansolar8153
    @romansolar8153 4 місяці тому

    wow nightmare what a game!

  • @level99nn50
    @level99nn50 4 місяці тому +1

    I like the video during the ad before because I'm confident I will like it 🗿

  • @jagojuice9133
    @jagojuice9133 4 місяці тому

    wow game 1 was crazy. nightmare is truly the surgeon!

  • @shawnvines2514
    @shawnvines2514 4 місяці тому +1

    Go Nightmare!

  • @fuzoolaadmi
    @fuzoolaadmi 4 місяці тому

    that revenge drop micro of the colossus..

  • @WoobertAIO
    @WoobertAIO 4 місяці тому

    14:43 Is that Starbound music I hear?!

  • @AlexanderVoroncov
    @AlexanderVoroncov 4 місяці тому

    Very beautiful games :)

  • @Kickproof
    @Kickproof 4 місяці тому

    @5:40 really missed an opportunity for a Sam Fisher joke. Oof.

  • @SirChristian100
    @SirChristian100 3 місяці тому

    Inspirational Protoss!

  • @tomarintomarin9520
    @tomarintomarin9520 4 місяці тому +1

    This protoss guy smart

  • @Gredddfe
    @Gredddfe 4 місяці тому

    The nightmare surgeon making protoss look OP. Damn he's good!

  • @BigHeadClan
    @BigHeadClan 4 місяці тому

    Big kudos to nightmare it’s so rare to see top level sc2 players really setup their positioning in such a way.
    Astrea is the only other toss I can think of that does something similar.

  • @jakebrewable
    @jakebrewable 3 місяці тому

    How to win as Terran:
    Terran - Make more
    Zerg - Let the waves crash against you
    Protoss - Kill them before they can think

  • @JasonFowler
    @JasonFowler 3 місяці тому

    Finally some real Protoss wins. Been years since I saw some new playstyle.

  • @VeryBadPlayerTV
    @VeryBadPlayerTV 3 місяці тому

    Holy shit game 5 ty byun for having a bunker and not dying to those stalkers

  • @aazaroth1421
    @aazaroth1421 4 місяці тому +6

    ah yes, my daily dose of winter StarCraft! WOOOHOOOO *⁠・⁠゜゚⁠(⁠^⁠O⁠^⁠)⁠↝

  • @willeatpants7691
    @willeatpants7691 4 місяці тому

    how professional XD

  • @quinlamothe5929
    @quinlamothe5929 4 місяці тому

    Does it ever seem like medivacs should be a lot larger, or only able to hold bio units?

  • @devaughnrichardson987
    @devaughnrichardson987 4 місяці тому

    that immortal colossus technique was crazy

  • @hanuman9
    @hanuman9 4 місяці тому

    How do they chose specialized upgrades for each game?

  • @kaktusrouge
    @kaktusrouge 4 місяці тому

    Can someone explain me how widowmines work ? Because sometimes I feel like you need a detector to see them, and sometimes it seems that they're instantly spotted after they shot ...

    • @GajoDoPau
      @GajoDoPau 4 місяці тому

      It's both actually.
      At the start of the game they start invisible while burrowed and become revealed after they shoot. After a cool down they recharge their shot and become invisible again.
      After the owner of the mine builds an armory, the WM is always invisible while burrowed, before and after shooting.

  • @Senzu_Lean
    @Senzu_Lean 4 місяці тому

    nice

  • @izboy6386
    @izboy6386 4 місяці тому

    I’m going to petition the name change from the Mule Hammer to Mulenir, like mjolnir, Thor’s hammer

  • @tj9303
    @tj9303 4 місяці тому

    Christ I need a drink after that 😂

  • @orangepearlf40
    @orangepearlf40 4 місяці тому

    That 2nd game was a nightmare on elm street for terran. Its official. In PVT toss needs to be more on offense than defense.

  • @deanr888
    @deanr888 4 місяці тому +1

    How did that first probe lose hit points with full shields before the reaper started attacking??? First game... Scary

    • @LunaCelyn
      @LunaCelyn 4 місяці тому

      It's an early scouting probe that battled with an SCV.

  • @dirtyd3754
    @dirtyd3754 3 місяці тому

    Nightmare he just knows dude

  • @amptransformers2257
    @amptransformers2257 3 місяці тому

    In game 5 I feel like instead of mirco-ing his colosus, if Nightmare sees that his entire army is marauders and one viking if he builds 1 or 2 stargates the game is literally over...

  • @fireborn..
    @fireborn.. 4 місяці тому +1

    How difficult would Terran be if medivacs dropped fast and had to pick up one at a time.

  • @verihimthered2418
    @verihimthered2418 4 місяці тому

  • @andystephon871
    @andystephon871 4 місяці тому +1

    I am sitting here wondering if winter said to be honest. Or if he is making a starcraft pun and is saying to byonest

  • @VeryBadPlayerTV
    @VeryBadPlayerTV 3 місяці тому

    50 kill colossus that never ranked up or gained the ability to be repaired/heal. Sc2 is fun! Man the game would be so much more fun to play and watch with new mechanics like veterancy

  • @AnonJuggerbot
    @AnonJuggerbot 4 місяці тому +1

    Ah fuck. Protoss won something. I can hear the nerfbat falling as I type this.

  • @nardu
    @nardu 4 місяці тому

    It looks like Nightmare controls the camera with WASD. Am I seeing that right? 23:36

    • @theNefariousNoogie
      @theNefariousNoogie 4 місяці тому

      It looks like mouse at edge of screen scrolling to me, but that might just be me. :)

  • @joshgulrud5635
    @joshgulrud5635 4 місяці тому

    Nightmare my dude

  • @Cracklingsoul
    @Cracklingsoul 4 місяці тому

    I can’t help wanting to see more nighmare😊

  • @NickTF2
    @NickTF2 4 місяці тому

    Terran A move race

  • @tabula_rosa
    @tabula_rosa 4 місяці тому +1

    35:32 300 200 anti-light unit lost like, a quarter of its health to 2 marines & only killed 1 in the process
    why.... why is the collosus the way that it is

    • @kathorsees
      @kathorsees 4 місяці тому

      Yep. Just went on a rant about Colossi being entirely negated by a few dinky planes that only shoot air. It just yucks my yum when huge units like tanks, leviathans or huge battleships look imposing and massive, but play small, weak and extra-fragile.

  • @tobiasL1991
    @tobiasL1991 4 місяці тому +1

    I'm sorry but this tournament on liquipedia looks hilarious.
    Guess who participated round 16 and up, 10 protosses, 1 zerg and 2 terran.
    Like what? Is the website broken or something
    And guess who kicked out the other zerg and terran, yep, Byun did.
    Not sure what this says about the game state but it's funny to me.

    • @theNefariousNoogie
      @theNefariousNoogie 4 місяці тому

      What were the other three races? 10 + 1 + 2 = 13 😅

    • @tobiasL1991
      @tobiasL1991 4 місяці тому

      @@theNefariousNoogie No clue, the liquipedia page only shows 13 different names.
      5 times 2 names in the ro16 and 3 more added in the quarterfinals. The tree seems a bit awkward.

    • @theNefariousNoogie
      @theNefariousNoogie 4 місяці тому

      @@tobiasL1991 Huh, that's strange. Not that it changes much from the fact that the vast majority are Protoss, I'm just curious.

  • @bluevalentineproductions
    @bluevalentineproductions 4 місяці тому

    Micro Jackson, AHAHAH

  • @lumburgapalooza
    @lumburgapalooza 4 місяці тому

    NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE

  • @nielsvandervlist3520
    @nielsvandervlist3520 4 місяці тому

    Byun is so sus sometimes

  • @ng9995
    @ng9995 4 місяці тому +2

    Nightmare's player card abilities should say "Pre-op" and "Surgical strike", respectively. Such a missed opportunity!

  • @coryknight7669
    @coryknight7669 4 місяці тому

    immortals do so well idk why people dont use them they are the meat of the army

  • @red3yekingg
    @red3yekingg 2 місяці тому

    2.4k likes mister

  • @Ren-kei
    @Ren-kei 4 місяці тому

    Cyclones need a nerf

  • @bentlecc
    @bentlecc 4 місяці тому

    whoah... suddenly 2 minute dumb AF ads