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  • Опубліковано 8 лют 2024
  • StarCraft 2 Tournament 2024 - WardiTV SC2 Series - Protoss vs Terran - Nightmare shows off his next level Protoss micro against ByuN's aggressive Terran!
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  • @WinterStarcraft
    @WinterStarcraft  4 місяці тому +113

    NEW* Strategy (clickbait explanation): This isn't so much a new build order as a new style of aggressive Protoss. Usually aggressive Protoss are focused on just mass gateway units, but Nightmare really leans heavily on tech like Colossus/Storm instead of Warp Prism backstabs/runbys.
    Higher risk but higher reward in my opinion, and makes for extra entertainment ;)

    • @drakethesnake4592
      @drakethesnake4592 4 місяці тому +5

      I don't need clickbait explanations, I simply need more!

    • @versavices3776
      @versavices3776 4 місяці тому +3

      Let's be honest here, you've never made a clickbait title before.

    • @drizzelschissel208
      @drizzelschissel208 4 місяці тому +3

      Can anyone tell me in which Video Winter Shows the table where dark ranks himself as number one?

    • @drizzelschissel208
      @drizzelschissel208 4 місяці тому +1

      Really need help😅

    • @timfink7980
      @timfink7980 4 місяці тому

      Is it true that you and jimmy are dating?

  • @erikvarga4367
    @erikvarga4367 4 місяці тому +31

    Those stalker interceptions of medevacs made me feel soo good
    I love how on the stalker it says 'kills: 1".. "Dude I promise.. it was full of marines!"

    • @nightbanegodnomadicdruid6698
      @nightbanegodnomadicdruid6698 4 місяці тому +8

      "Still only counts as one..." -- Random dwarf on the battlefield.

    • @ZC.Andrew
      @ZC.Andrew 4 місяці тому

      @@nightbanegodnomadicdruid6698 Lol! Gimli should appear randomly just to say this, before disappearing again. XD

  • @Dmisencik
    @Dmisencik 4 місяці тому +42

    "Show me those toes, Zealots" lol

    • @Nelson_.A
      @Nelson_.A 4 місяці тому

      Should be in wikifeet

    • @CrimsonA1
      @CrimsonA1 4 місяці тому +3

      Zealots: "...baka!" *blush

    • @tomarintomarin9520
      @tomarintomarin9520 4 місяці тому +2

      @@CrimsonA1 That image I want to erase from my memory

  • @colegudding9510
    @colegudding9510 4 місяці тому +38

    Last time I was this early, Byun had already gotten 2 reapers in my base and killed a drone.

  • @Sebastian-fh8xm
    @Sebastian-fh8xm 4 місяці тому +18

    2 propes and a bit of dignity killed me hahahaha

  • @IfritMiraZ
    @IfritMiraZ 4 місяці тому +9

    Hoping for the return of "Byun picks up, and heads to the main", coz I miss that line

  • @paulgazeley4059
    @paulgazeley4059 4 місяці тому +2

    That phoenix control in game 1 is probably some of the best I’ve ever seen. So active but also so willing to dive to pick up marines and marauders to keep momentum.
    And then getting those widow mine lifts in that clumped fight outside his bases is insane

  • @mylucyrk
    @mylucyrk 4 місяці тому +26

    The only reason Byun took a game off of Nightmare, who was literally dunking on him in the other two games, was stupid widow mines

    • @user-bh6pv9rt3r
      @user-bh6pv9rt3r 4 місяці тому +2

      I doubt I'll ever understand how anyone defends that unit. Every aspect of its design is toxic. It's not even fun to watch.

    • @limbalicious
      @limbalicious 3 місяці тому

      The reason why I quit playing and just watching SC2 is widowmines. Skill issue asides, it is just annoying to deal

  • @lumburgapalooza
    @lumburgapalooza 4 місяці тому +1

    38:20
    Winter: "That one Templar is everything!"
    Four Colossus: "Am I a joke to you?..."

  • @RavagHer
    @RavagHer 4 місяці тому +21

    they nerfed the banelings but didnt nerf the widowmines.

    • @enriquegarciacota3914
      @enriquegarciacota3914 4 місяці тому +5

      They buffed them, in fact

    • @10manan
      @10manan 4 місяці тому

      Widow mine is perfectly balanced.

    • @hivetech4903
      @hivetech4903 4 місяці тому +1

      That's true but they did nerf the drops that can carry widow mines I guess.

  • @NotJustAnotherWizard
    @NotJustAnotherWizard 4 місяці тому +1

    I really enjoy the clip art edits in-between games.

  • @ElSatanicHispanic
    @ElSatanicHispanic 4 місяці тому +3

    Thank you for casting another one. I'm never sure if you're going to, but you always do. 👏

  • @alexmineru
    @alexmineru 4 місяці тому +1

    33:36 HES HIM , HE IS HIM

  • @zaretul98
    @zaretul98 4 місяці тому +1

    42:55 Eye-ur was right there...

  • @fernandoxavier3089
    @fernandoxavier3089 4 місяці тому +2

    Meanwhile a +2 baneling is not allowed to kill probes in one hit.

  • @FunnyVidsIllustrated
    @FunnyVidsIllustrated 4 місяці тому +1

    This resurgence in protoss playstyles is just wonderful to witness

  • @Devillionaire
    @Devillionaire Місяць тому

    Nightmare’s nickname “The Surgeon” is perfect for him. Watching him recently dismantle Clem with the sickest hi-temp storms and disruptor balls was amazing.

  • @faxmachine1162
    @faxmachine1162 4 місяці тому +1

    Tbh I feel like the games didnt fall apart because of the widow drops, but Nightmare shouldn't have gone for templar. His early robo-pushes were absolutely the way to go, and the sentries put so much work in as far as keeping his army alive.

  • @Oberon7447
    @Oberon7447 3 місяці тому

    This is the only Protoss vs Terran I'm prepared to play anymore - thanks again Winter great cast! I think we should make "Single Ball-edly" the quote of the year!

  • @alexmineru
    @alexmineru 4 місяці тому

    31:40 , that is the proper reaction to what just went down

  • @yuomovaeh3028
    @yuomovaeh3028 4 місяці тому

    Gratz on the 200k!

  • @WoodliceCC
    @WoodliceCC 4 місяці тому +3

    Wish you were doing Katowice comms :( You always make my day just a little bit better!

  • @okerbel
    @okerbel 4 місяці тому +1

    Nightmare is so good, holy crap. This game needs nore micro focused protoss

  • @mechaman7818
    @mechaman7818 4 місяці тому +1

    Did you know "mirror neurons" are a real thing? Meaning you have neurons in your head that activate when you watch someone else do something? So if you're watching someone pick up a box, the neurons you use when you pick up a box might start firing off despite the fact you aren't picking up the box.
    Unfortunately they don't turn us into psychic beings like you'd think they would. They seem to be there to help us learn how to function from other humans, but that's lame. I wanna cast Psystorm irl, damn it!😭

    • @enriquegarciacota3914
      @enriquegarciacota3914 4 місяці тому

      Join the Swarm. The only thing you need to cast blinding cloud is a can of beans

  • @NealX_Gaming
    @NealX_Gaming 4 місяці тому +1

    Nightmare's control is really good. Definitely a Protoss player to watch.

  • @LucianDevine
    @LucianDevine 4 місяці тому

    Nightmare was living rent free in Byun's head in game 2.

  • @shibomi1
    @shibomi1 4 місяці тому

    52:23 im surprised at how many SCV managed to survived here

  • @arthuryong4968
    @arthuryong4968 4 місяці тому

    Would a tech switch to pure a-moving marauders with a handful of ghost work vs protoss going for 4-5 colossus and ht?

  • @mumblety96
    @mumblety96 3 місяці тому

    Great cast.

  • @Tribuneoftheplebs
    @Tribuneoftheplebs 4 місяці тому +3

    20:35 Containing Byun with 2 DTs and 4 stalkers. Nightmare is nuts

  • @Ingkarat1987
    @Ingkarat1987 4 місяці тому

    I like your joke about selfesteem of Phoenix and zlot shoes, keep it going, Winter ❄️ 🎉

  • @jamesrockybullin5250
    @jamesrockybullin5250 4 місяці тому

    Congrats on 200k!

  • @insightactual1098
    @insightactual1098 4 місяці тому

    33:38 🎯

  • @enlightedmonkey
    @enlightedmonkey 4 місяці тому

    I didn't plan to watch sc2 now, but man this thumbnail is crazy good

  • @JG-ti7id
    @JG-ti7id 4 місяці тому

    NOICE! glhf fam!

  • @pascall9517
    @pascall9517 4 місяці тому

    After those first two games BYUN played, I would have been raging. He must have been satisfied af to sweep back to win.

  • @slevinlaine
    @slevinlaine 4 місяці тому +1

    Lets goo!!

  • @piershanson1784
    @piershanson1784 4 місяці тому +1

    Maybe nightmare has taken some inspiration from Reynor, or the other way around, idk they're builds seem a little similar

  • @cathulionetharn5139
    @cathulionetharn5139 4 місяці тому

    Thank You
    Om nom nom

  • @pnwsnewton
    @pnwsnewton 4 місяці тому

    NightMare really did look surgical in the first two games.

  • @snieznykoczkodan5427
    @snieznykoczkodan5427 4 місяці тому

    I'm addicted to your content :)

  • @thiagoschreiner4601
    @thiagoschreiner4601 4 місяці тому

    Micro Jackson had me laughin for 10min

  • @Mindwave416
    @Mindwave416 4 місяці тому

    shiiiiiiit bro 200k!! grats

  • @weaponizedemoticon1131
    @weaponizedemoticon1131 4 місяці тому +1

    Why don't Protoss ever start an off center pylon (so just a little North or South of where the second supply depot would be) in the Terran wall to make it so they can't wall till far later?
    I'm confident there is a reason, but I don't know it.

    • @KonaKreator
      @KonaKreator 4 місяці тому +3

      They do very rarely. But it’s because that costs 100 minerals while they need those minerals for a cyber core and an expo, not worth the delay.

    • @quentinspinks2606
      @quentinspinks2606 4 місяці тому +3

      The Terran will kill the pylon before the Protoss can punish the unfinished wall.

  • @hortn123
    @hortn123 4 місяці тому +4

    Salvaged bunker? After it's been built and used and almost destroyed? A bit eco imba aint it?

    • @quentinspinks2606
      @quentinspinks2606 4 місяці тому +6

      If you think that’s eco imbalance wait until I tell you about Mules!

  • @louis-danieltaillefer174
    @louis-danieltaillefer174 4 місяці тому

    Game 2: ''Some actually useful Force Fields against Terran, it's like seeing a Unicorn!'' 🤣

  • @jeremymalinoff3822
    @jeremymalinoff3822 3 місяці тому

    when you upgrade to chargelots they equip "never surrender"s

  • @nathanadcock6209
    @nathanadcock6209 3 місяці тому

    Nightmare is Hannibal at Cannae

  • @Shadowboost
    @Shadowboost 4 місяці тому

    Game 2 was amazing

  • @burdy1990
    @burdy1990 4 місяці тому

    NightMare playing as his name states.

  • @weavelcow9596
    @weavelcow9596 4 місяці тому

    Oh I really like that Protoss style, it's like aggressively safe.
    Edit: Works a bit better with the whole "safe" part of it.

  • @kailenpiardi2721
    @kailenpiardi2721 4 місяці тому

    5:37 we can move on but

  • @themanwithsauce
    @themanwithsauce 4 місяці тому +2

    Game 3 is now on repeat in my head for the forseeable future. The widow mine drop to medivac snipe alone is providing dopamine. Everything else is just butter on top.

  • @elijahgilbert6620
    @elijahgilbert6620 4 місяці тому

    WE NEED TO GET TO 1,245 LIKES TROOPS! LETS KEEP THIS MAN FED SO WE CAN GET FED GOOD COMMENTARY!

  • @GSteel-rh9iu
    @GSteel-rh9iu 4 місяці тому

    Winter should have 800K subs!

  • @WoobertAIO
    @WoobertAIO 4 місяці тому

    5:46 ProbelyFans*

  • @Roguedeus
    @Roguedeus 4 місяці тому +1

    Oh my goodness, this was one of the most amazing games you've cast in some time... Entertaining as ever.
    Please, don't stop.

  • @GoBigg78
    @GoBigg78 4 місяці тому

    Them toes lol

  • @PandaRizzArg
    @PandaRizzArg 4 місяці тому

    What a series ! First 2 games were so good that for a moment made me forget who byun is. Too bad nightmare in 3rd game swich from disruptors to storm ...

  • @TheRealDeadRock
    @TheRealDeadRock 4 місяці тому +1

    Pretty sure you can clearly see Protoss feet in the SC1:BW menu. Even if you're one of the weirdos who's into that kinda thing, I kinda doubt you'd find them pleasing.

  • @eaglesclaws8
    @eaglesclaws8 4 місяці тому

    nightmare didnt put his armor on before battle

  • @davidszczur4756
    @davidszczur4756 4 місяці тому

    This is my favorite show.

  • @kevinnitta3576
    @kevinnitta3576 4 місяці тому

    Winter I recall a professional Protoss player named Winter that I saw on Lowko's channel a few years back. Are you that professional player? Your great knowledge makes me wonder. You are far more knowledgeable than a simple commentator so that is why I ask.

  • @cesardarksider
    @cesardarksider 4 місяці тому

    suscribed!! you should start asking for the 2 thousands 😆😆😆💪

  • @brinaldi81
    @brinaldi81 4 місяці тому

    All the Cheeeeese

  • @numa_kai
    @numa_kai 4 місяці тому

    dayumn. i was expecting nightmare to 3-0 byun

  • @WookofWallstreet
    @WookofWallstreet 4 місяці тому

    Long time follower, is Jimmy a real person?

    • @sageryfrekenstein
      @sageryfrekenstein 4 місяці тому +1

      He's real inside of all of us

    • @johnnyq2486
      @johnnyq2486 4 місяці тому

      Yeah, he's just not very good at his job.

    • @JollyGreenWizard
      @JollyGreenWizard 4 місяці тому

      I'm convinced that it's a retired James Raynor getting senile from old age

  • @kusland6786
    @kusland6786 4 місяці тому

    Nightmare has such a hard skin

  • @ManDuderGuy
    @ManDuderGuy 4 місяці тому

    That Nightmare is so dreamy.
    UwU etc

  • @messitup
    @messitup 4 місяці тому

    Winter has a food fetish.

  • @GustavBrahe
    @GustavBrahe Місяць тому

    Good at his gig but not to adaptable same nightmare night after night becomes predictable, playing protos requires one to invent the wheel every now and then..

  • @jennifer_dreamzzz
    @jennifer_dreamzzz 4 місяці тому

    Happy to see more Nightmare 🥳

  • @Dusk-MTG
    @Dusk-MTG 4 місяці тому +3

    Everytime I see a PvT, the only thing I can think of is: This poor protoss tried so hard and got so far, but in the end, we know how it's gonna end.

  • @sirtalkalotdoolittle
    @sirtalkalotdoolittle 4 місяці тому

    Not gonna lie, it's your play-by-play that made me choose your channel over every other SC channel out there. I have no idea if what you are saying is true (I last played SC decades ago), but I believe it because you say it so well. Have you considered politics as a side hustle to this?

  • @aleksanderlisowski4702
    @aleksanderlisowski4702 4 місяці тому

    Terrans are soooo inba. Even small group or marines can just kill entire mineral line in line 6-8 seconds and then preety solidly stand up to stalkers.
    Dmg output difference is too big for such an universal unit.

  • @maxshultz6502
    @maxshultz6502 4 місяці тому

    I see protoss positive youtube title, and even though I know it's most likely click bait, it gives me so much false hope that maybe thy can overcome being the the weakest 😂

  • @lumburgapalooza
    @lumburgapalooza 4 місяці тому

    NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE NIGHTMARE

  • @yugonostalgia8961
    @yugonostalgia8961 4 місяці тому +2

    Nightmare looking good. If widow mines were finally removed from the game protoss would def have an equal 50/50 chance against terran if more played like this

  • @i9erek
    @i9erek 15 днів тому

    Two HTs, T3 units with a storm research can't deal the damage that a single widow mine can do. What a joke.

  • @SmokeJam
    @SmokeJam 4 місяці тому

    Thats Rottis strategy, but better.

  • @dustinmcdonald1784
    @dustinmcdonald1784 4 місяці тому

    Xxshadowstalkerxxsniperxx 😂😂😂

  • @Hisu0
    @Hisu0 4 місяці тому

    Funny how, with protoss (especially vs terran), "ALARMING New Strategy" is almost always "ALARMING New Strategy That Ultimately Failed". What's alarming about it, then?.. that somewhere down on the ladder it might occasionally work for someone with a high enough mmr advantage?

  • @MrGeorgeFlorcus
    @MrGeorgeFlorcus 4 місяці тому +1

    A very disappointing end to a very entertaining series. Nightmare, with a dominant performance in the first 2 games, losing 2 hard-fought losses in games 3 and 4, and then that went fart of a game 5... Feels bad.

  • @Amoeby
    @Amoeby 4 місяці тому

    WiDoW MiNeS 🥴🤪

  • @MrRagequitnow
    @MrRagequitnow 4 місяці тому

    Never go full protoss

  • @sincanmihai8799
    @sincanmihai8799 4 місяці тому

    Why in 99.99% of cases where you have a title that say "best ultimate unreal X race strategy", that race loses? I mean, I do like your videos and commentary and I am a subscriber, but I just know before I watch the video who will win which makes it less enjoyable that it could have been. It is just my opinion. Keep up the good job. PS: I saw your pinned comment.

    • @Daniel-yy3ty
      @Daniel-yy3ty 4 місяці тому +1

      I hate most toss (Reynor showed that they can be fun to watch, while a couple others are nice enough that I usually root for them), but those first 2 games are worth it
      If the title was something about Byun in a TvP I would have probably skipped the series
      Don't get me wrong, when they put a clickbait and the "crazy strategy you wouldn't believe X used" loses I lose my marbles too. Who cares about a crazy strat that loses? In the immortal words of that guy "If your opponent is doing something weird, go fucking kill 'em". That's the expected outcome, no need to point that game out.
      But here the different approach worked, and was very nice to watch on top of it... Shame he fumbled the mine drop in game 3 (had to pause after that, it was too much D: )
      Also, until I read the comments I thought that Nightmare was gonna win the last game with whatever prompted that thumbnail, so he would have surprised me at least :P

  • @Kapir00to
    @Kapir00to 4 місяці тому

    That was the series that we got the most Terran hater Winter ever. He looked literally depressed in every game NightMare lost and so hyped when Byun got smashed

  • @dba8211
    @dba8211 4 місяці тому

    For the love of God, please nerf widow mines on probes!

  • @weaponizedemoticon1131
    @weaponizedemoticon1131 4 місяці тому

    Those second game snipes were just rude...

  • @dunmatta2670
    @dunmatta2670 4 місяці тому

    That last one was quite anti-climactic

  • @henkhenkste6076
    @henkhenkste6076 4 місяці тому

    wrong title? where was the new toss strat?

  • @tommasGRC
    @tommasGRC 4 місяці тому

    Careful, your "1/3 terran yourself" is showing. :)

  • @bigstreetguns6619
    @bigstreetguns6619 4 місяці тому +1

    Nightmare doing great considering he plays the by far weakest race in this game.

  • @user-se7kp9vn1c
    @user-se7kp9vn1c 4 місяці тому +1

    First one Here!

  • @Ozzy89CZ
    @Ozzy89CZ 4 місяці тому +2

    Unfollow for another clickbait. no more serious channel.

    • @quentinspinks2606
      @quentinspinks2606 4 місяці тому +3

      It’s a channel dedicated to entertaining video game commentary.
      How “serious” do you really think it should be?

    • @S8587
      @S8587 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@quentinspinks2606 still a stupid clickbait title and description. I'm unsubscribing also

    • @user-bh6pv9rt3r
      @user-bh6pv9rt3r 4 місяці тому +3

      @@quentinspinks2606 Still fair enough. I think most everybody is sick of seeing the more creative plays blown up by the same randomly placed widow mines, made all the worse when you're primed to see that maybe not happen for once.

  • @10manan
    @10manan 4 місяці тому +1

    Yes! Go terran