$42,000 StarCraft 2 Tournament GRAND FINALS
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- StarCraft 2 $42,000 Tournament 2024 - SC2 Master's Coliseum 7 GRAND FINALS - Serral's clinical Zerg takes on herO's wild card Protoss in a full best of 9 Protoss vs Zerg grand finals!
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StarCraft 2 $42,000 Tournament 2024 - SC2 Master's Coliseum 7 GRAND FINAL - Serral (Zerg) vs herO (Protoss) - Best of 9
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3:12 Wait, so Brenda and the knitting crew remember every game? Every time they've died? What a horrific existence.
hivemind remembers...
If they didnt feel pain and were immortal I think thatd be neat though. IF they do feel pain though that sucks
If they're still around to remember it, did they really die or did they just lose a temporary body?
The non primal zerg are immortal, they reincarnate. That’s why dark Templar scared the hell out of the overmind and ceribrats, it’s the only way to perma kill a Zerg.
the fear kinda goes away after the first 700 deaths or so
i really like it when he roleplays as queens
Serral is like that final boss u thought hits really hard....until u find out he also does true damage, elemental damage and emotional damage on each hit
lol
man is insane for sure but zerg is op for years now ...
@@kasapkrvnik7799 wrong. Serral makes Zerg look OP. Right now id argue Terran is stronger than both Zerg and Protoss. Clem has no Talent and actually won the tourney the other day. Widow mines need a serious nerf
@@kasapkrvnik7799 Zerg is as OP from Serral as a tennis racket is OP from Rafa Nadal.
@@kasapkrvnik7799 Are all other zergs doing this good?
"Aha can't attack me, I'm going to build some carriers" cracked me up XD
Jimmy and the knitting crew are the true MVPs in every cast. even when its PvZ, Jimmy doesn't disappoint.
herO threw that 3rd game so hard. He scouted multiple times that Serral had absolutely nothing in his base, no troops, low eco, and just decided to afk play sim city for 25 mins to let opponent to catch up. As a herO fan that's so disappointing.
What's worse it seems he even did that wrong, he could've taken every base on the map, instead he took the few closest to him and then died by running out of money to rebuild
i think he must have said to himself "the only way serral gets back in to this game is through a ling runby or bane drop. With nydus he can force a recall if i move my units out of my base to end the game now. I don't think he has an overlord in position, but i don't want to be wrong. I'll use my lead to harden my bases and then play standard and i should still be enough ahead to crush him with my next timing"
and the only problem with that thinking is that her0 just doesn't have the caliber of macro that serral has, so he didn't end up staying ahead. I think if the positions were reversed and it was serral who defended an expensive all-in like that, he would have been fine to play the way her0 did.
I mean, it is hard to go fight there, because serral had infestors pretty right away with neural. But her0 threw that game for sure, i agree.
@@ditch_magnet True, against any other player, Hero still would have won, heck many would have instantly gged out after the failed cheese. But Hero knows, that you cant just let Serral macro back up again. Give Serral time to recover and build the tools to deal with your army and he will trash you. Usually Hero is a very aggressive player, especially known for his blink stalker micro and even zealot all ins. If he had stuck to his guns, he would have ended that game a few minutes after Serrals failed attack.
@@Daniel-rd6st i really do think he psyched himself out. the pressure of the tournament got to him and at the crucial moment where he could have cemented his victory he instead started playing not to lose.
2 hours of goodness. 2 hours of epic casting. 2 hours of SC2. This is perfect
2 hours of OP zerg. Zzzzzzzzz
Best of nine let me clear my schedule
Seems like its not the case...
Wasn’t worth it was it?
My opinion on Clem vs Serral is that it's like seeing Superman try to fight a hurricane. Clem is super-human, and Serral is a force of nature. When they clash, no matter who wins, it's going to be worth seeing. And frankly, who has a chance to stop a hurricane except Superman?
Lots and lots of comic book or anime characters, but i get you point 🙂
Eu acredito que clem seja o oponente mais forte contra serral
I fast forwarded through the third game once her0 started going carriers. He was so far ahead, I didn't want to watch an airtoss snoozefest, then in the next game I see the score. Ok, I have to see this.
I love Serral games, there is still the tension and upset potential. I also do think it is nice to see what the standard near perfect play is.
IMO you can take the best upgraded most complex and strong Protoss late game army and no matter who controls it (you can literally have parting, hero. And classic all helping) and no matter what, that late game toss army will never beat a proper late game Zerg army that is controlled by a player of equal skill.
The only way toss wins late game is if Zerg makes a mistake.
Stack all units into one nice, dense, easy to AOE ball ✅
Bring no armor piercing units to fight armored anti-air units ✅
Use anti-caster spell that outranges caster units before they use AOEs ❎
Overextend army on creep and get partially surrounded ✅
Miss disruptor shots on tech units ✅
A move entire army near enemy bases for over a minute ✅
Harass enemy while their whole army is concentrated ❎
Obviously there is just no darn way for protoss to beat zerg late game
@@nickmaxx let’s not pretend we haven’t seen this matchup unfold the same way every single time for YEARS. If you don’t win in the early to mid game your chances of winning in late game vs Zerg drops considerably.
@@chris_vuks its wild how the same composition loses in the same way.
I wonder why nobody plays mass banshee, mass thor or mass muta these days to great success professionally
@@nickmaxx it’s wild that even with tier 3 units, a mothership, carriers, Templar, archons, immortals etc… that you’ll still get parasitic bombed, abducted, blinding clouded, and fungled before you even get 3 storms and a feedback off.
@@chris_vuks Don't clump your units? Zerg and Terran seem to understand this, but protoss absolutely refuse to learn.
Poor Hero .. many years I am loving to watch Zergs. I loved Scarlett, Reynor, Dark and love that no 1 player is Zerg. Love cheering for Serral but this match felt like watch some big bully beating little kid :'(
He is too good now, off the charts, insane, mad genius, King of blades, Overmind ._.
True final boss of Starcraft II.
Zerg just pathetic OP that’s why
soon he will be so bored he'll start stealing probes with neural parasite to make Protoss vs Zerg/Protoss matches in grand finals xD
@@Andyusa11 Yeah, that's why no other zerg has decent winrates, because zerg is OP, right?
Are you drunk?
@@Andyusa11 To manage all zergs at the same time is almost impossible, they die very easily and you need to manage more basic things than with other races - spreading creep tumors, fertilizing eggs with queens, every structure is -1 worker (with protos one worker can build whole base) etc.
They are most management heavy race.
@@asdfasdf-mn8iuhow many Protoss have won big tournament’s lately ? 😂😂😂😂 and I am the one drunk Zerg can spent the entire map and triple the income in minutes long time Protoss don’t win any big tournament 😂😂
Dude your casting is awesome, even I that don't even know the game could anderstand everything that was happening!
Funny, how after all this years SC2 existed, zerg still OP on pro lvl
I think Serral is just OP. Reynor wields Protoss as his off race pretty effectively.
But still, you might be right, it's just hard to tell with Serral up there.
@@weaponizedemoticon1131 and vs terran too, to much meat with broodlords all the time in my opinion
@@weaponizedemoticon1131 Serral is OP, yeah. He's without a doubt the best SC2 player, but even if you take Serral out of it, Protoss is just getting utterly wrecked.
Hero won against Reynor, who plays zerg too and not too long ago Clem absolutely destroyed serral
Please cast herO vs reynor's bo7 from the lower bracket was fantastic!
Yeah he only posted one of those games 4 days ago with the insane hero comback in a 31minute game
I love when winter rp’s as queens. I have no idea why.
Quiet, Brenda.
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-Mr T. ... I'm pretty sure he said that...
The state of balance in StarCraft is best described by the reactions we get when protoss players win. Protoss as a race is like a lame duck in a pond.
Third game is painful to watch.
Hero now holds the world record for hardest throw in human history
Hero gave it away. Fear is the mind killer
Ah yes the Dark called Hero, Dark's chaotic twin. This'll be great HAHA liked and subscribed, and hoping for more Winter content~
Serral is a pleasure to watch. He's just so professional, like you can tell he's the best because he studies. He's not the type of player who grinds out games to try to just get better.
Nah he plays the best race. No need to grind or study.
@@SsSHardtHis win rate is over 90% and the next closest Zerg, Dark is 65% 😂
@@SsSHardtFunny, because only one Zerg usually wins, most of the time if he's not there a Terran wins.
congratz on 200k winter you are an inspiration that you can do what you love in this world
20:13 "Premature Explosion"💀
congrats on 200k! I have been following you since 192k and your video is the only entertainment I enjoy right now in my busy life. Never have thought of this in a million years.
I really don't know what protoss is even supposed to do
Not sit on his ass when he had the advantage? Maybe get better players? Go rewatch Reynor vs Serral on the same map to see what they can do (it's on this channel in case you missed it, search for Serral vs Reynor and it should be obvious which game I'm talking about)
Gee I wonder will this be 5-0 or 5-1
Somehow Serral won a best of 9 in four games
Still no Protoss fixed I see. Happy to save 2 hours of my life.
A 2 hour cast?!!!
You make tens of thousands lives a little, bit, better
Update for you winter. 6th month anniversary of my daughter and I watching you while she falls asleep.
Fun fact: the "Rad" in Radhuset Station is pronounced a lot like the "Rhod" in Rhode Island. Scandinavian vowels are peculiar.
imagine if Serral went 5-0
I'm convinced Serral just throws the one game so Zerg doesn't get nerfed.
@@taragnor "ey Serral, we'd all make more money if you just let Hero win one or two games"
1041! we can do it gang! thats the amount of zerglings serral builds per average game! lets do this!
Thanks!
Coming from a rank 1 master in 2012-2017:The problem is splitting marines while dropping, stimming, stuttering, while holding position after specific split is more difficult than right clicking banelings. Serral is amazing I totally agree, however Zerg is the easiest race to play by a long shot. It is fast, defensive, tech switching is easier, banelings are an easy response to bio (especially at lower levels) as a previous rank 1 master I refused to go bio and only went hellion tank thor against zerg because of how difficult splitting is. I will admit I was efficient, but low APM by Rank 1 Standards. 150 APM. I Matched up regularly against Top 50 GM players N/A.
Quick story: I matched against EG incontrol and he two gate proxy me in my base and I scouted it and knew it was coming. I had him beat. Or so I thought. Instead of attacking me he simply built zealots and then cannons that he defended with multiple zealots. He then built zealot cannon in my base and I couldn't stop it. RIP EGIncontrol.
Zerg with banelings changed fights way too easily and still does. Be honest with yourselves. I play intermittently now so I could be wrong I didn't write this in any sort of hostile way, just always thought zerg had an edge. Could I be wrong? Sure. I am not top 50 players in the world. I probably never even ranked in the top 500 with Korea Server being what it is. Love what you do Winter you are awesome. Zerg OP. LoL!
" He's killing his own stalkers and zealots because they're weak and sad" XD . Omg. You are the absolute best commentator.
Watching Serral play, is what I imagine fighting a malignant cancer is like. He is everywhere, and just smothers the other player. You have to be aggressive on every front to even stand a chance to fight him. To win, you have to stop him before he even gets 4 bases online. The game is usually pretty much over if he gets Hive tech.
Overpowered Zerg wins everything as usual. As long as queens exist they win
I love to watch Serral's matches
i didn't even know you could beat the 200 supply SKYTOSS army
the void ray seems pretty weak now but that game 3 i think showed that there is still some use for it.
i mean, it's a relatively low-tech unit that can fly and hit both ground and air, and only one building away from cybernetics core which is literally always built. It's pretty useful to build at least one in pvz to deny scouting and threaten overlords. The only question really is whether you want to take a void ray or a phoenix. void rays take a lot less micro and they can hit ground, so they're fairly useful on defence as long as you can keep them alive. But you're right, in most cases phoenix are just better as long as you can control them properly.
Best of 9? 1 hour 40 minute video?
Excellent.
Serral is the hidden boss that you fought before and you think that you can fight again just because you respawned but then you get reminded that all his normal hits are one shots.
if seral did a 5-0
"hero to 0" was going to become a meme
Honestly didn’t expect this much Brenda from a Serral game but I AM HAPPY!!
You know what they say: "when you're ahead get more ahead...unless you're playing protoss"
Watching Serral vs Koreans will never get boring
"Welcome to the most professional...."
3 minutes later...
"Brenda!!!!!!!!"
"first draw a circle second draw the rest of the fuckin' owl!"
finally a little love for serral! winter always talking about how boring he is and how much hes in love with clem. you would think serral was just getting lucky every game for how he casts it.
Huh 🤨
just game 1 so far but i mostly watch broodwar and heard serral was good so decided to check him out - was not disappointed.
what a beast
Game 3 was the biggest throw I have ever seen.
That Serral won this game is absolutly insane - and it cancels out every discussion about balance.
At this point is is just a matter of the quality of the players. And Serral showed this tournament one more time thaa he is just playing in a different league than everybody else.
While Serral is consistent to the point of absurdity, other races throw games like this, choose insanely bad build orders (maru vs dark, game 5)
Winter, you did not post a video yesterday, so my day was not made a little bit better.
Without watching - lemme guess . Toss loss ?
Toss winning tournaments? What is that lunacy?
That hurt
@@Garoslol Sorry, but if your best player throws games like in game 3 - then toss players are just not good enough.
Serral is simply the way superior player.
Balance does not mean all races win equally often. Balance menas that if both PLAYERS are equally good, they win roughly the same time.
But if one player is way superior to the others? In a balanced game, this player will win most of the time.
If you start your comment by "your player" and statements that insinuate that protoss players in general are not good enough you are surely just going to trigger a defensive response.
But anyway you are right serral destroy anyone in mirror matchup in which there can't be a balance problem. He is just the best living sc2 player.
Obviously
Serral trying not to completely dominate every tournament he is in challenge: impossible
Unrelated, but friends of mine bizarrely came up with Civil War reenactment names for Pro SC2 players... I think Serral's was General Earl Lee Surrenders... there were so many, I think Her0's was an honorary Indian title, something like All-Ins a Lot
3/4 into the video, had to stop say this. really enjoying the commentary and the match between these two.. maybe more so than i have the right to, considering the score so far.
That Spoor play was best :)
zerg OP for the last 7+ years
Winter! What in the world! Ypure doing the finals but not the BANGER herO vs Reynor BO7 semi finals?!
Thanks for this man!
I want a lot more hydralisks
First draw a circle. Second, draw the rest of the fucking owl!
Hero has always surprised me how he keeps managing to get ranked so highly and get so far.
When he won GSL a bit ago he looked incredible; he looked as good as Serral and Maru and Clem and Rogue (etc) during their peaks but, since then, he's only looked about as good as Classic and SOS and Bunny (etc).
Still A tier, but not quite the S tier of the legends of the game.
Yet he still ranks so highly and still manages to pull out the wins and, here, get to the finals.
Only looked as good as classic, sos and bunny, some of the best players in the world still xD
@@kenners1993 - Yes. Still good enough to absolutely crush almost everyone in the world consistently, but just not quite good enough to crush the others on that level consistently.
Serral, Maru, Rogue - Those guys are. I'd consider Dark on that level now, too. Clem is currently looking on that level. Ollivera looked on that level for 1 particular day. Hero did for 1 GSL season.
Zerg still OP af - 12 years later
Serral looking scary as ever going into Katowice.
Banelings should not damage enemy units when they are killed and only when they attack.
gotta love those random bars at 1:31:00 ish XD
...What a monster.
I'm pretty sure early adepts are incorrect against zerg at this level. I've seen it work only a handful of times and definitely not against Serral. It only works if your opponent's macro sucks, so you're going to fail against a lot of high-level zerg.
if you thought Hero had a chance, then you must be new to SC2... The undisputed SC2 champ is Serral... just like how Magnus Carlsen is the undisputed champ in Chess.
1:23:05 Do disruptors have a cool down or a cool up? lol
Trying to defeat Serral with pure macro is just bonkers. And even if you get to outmacro him in a game the parasitic and fungal combo is just way too OP.
yeah zerg caster are very OP. I think effects should replace not stack.
@@Yamaelp Efects don't stack. Or you mean to say either Fungal or Parasitic? No spell in the game works like that.
Imagine you killed the rest of zerg but the cap still 199 so how come you win of this?
Zerg OP so OP at all among the rest
Hero confuses me, why doesn’t he use hot keys for his PROTOSS army. Select all is for diamond league and below!
Man it really felt like HerO was just… not on his game this series lol. I swear knowing you’re playing Serral in and of itself must cause people to get in their own head and play worse.
I would certainly like to see a protos win a tournament once in a while, but ofc, Serral will win this.
so boring to watch SC at this point. Only Winter casting makes it interesting.
@@Yamaelp I disagree, Clem(or Maru) vs Any top Zerg is always so good for me.
High lvl TvZ in general is soo entertaining for me.
Protoss will never win a big tournament, you just have to get used to it and learn to enjoy the standard 4-0 ZvPs, or watch 400 dollar tournaments in which protoss can win
@@bigprank3964 But the question IS....does this happen because we have no good protoss players or is it because Protoss is simply too weak atm?
My answer would be the latter. Protoss simply does not have anything like Terran or Zerg. Terran can carry with their micro and Zerg can carry with their macro and Micro, however Protoss only has the Warp Prism for micro and when it comes to macro....well macro to what? Their late game army is not that strong compared to Terran or Zerg. Protoss simply lacks that something.
@shadowpriest2574 Protoss lacks a low tech ground unit that usefully scales late game. Adepts and Zerglings fall off equally hard until Adrenal Glands, and then Adepts are just clearly worse. Terran bioball with drugs, guns, and Medivacs providing a quick mobility boost runs rings around Adepts.
Protoss lives and dies off late game deathball and both Zerg and Terran have strong anti deathball abilities as well. It's why so many Protoss cheese, late game is not viable.
immortal like 300 mineral and too such :)
Spoilers
Wow, game 3 was just a huge Hero fail and for a Hero fan painful to watch (luckily i am a fan of both players). I dont even know how he could lose from that position after the failed cheese attempt by Serral. Allowing Serral 15 minutes to build back up was pretty much the only way he could recover. Just build 8 gates go over the map with blink stalkers and a prism and kill him.
1:30:53 So, look, papa winter, I know that was ad-libbed by you, but I could see a Protoss-themed song featuring that line.
My latest project is "Commander Rap Battles of Starcraft". Would you like to have a chat about it sometime? I see you're equally as impressed by Alarak as I, and his lines are written superbly: "Oh, is that intent? Do you seek to usurp me? / Your time is better spent sitting, sipping on a slurpee."
Thank You
Om nom nom
If Serral wins this big, expect more Zerg nerfs.
Cracked me up thanks
Give Jimmy a raise!
i cant wait for zest to come back
SPOILERS?
me see: a game lasts over 1,5h
me think: omg, herO is giving a fight
me realize: its a best of 9
me watch: toss die to Serral for 1,5h
edit: ok, he took a game
I love your videos and you do make my days a little bit better everytime
Did i just enter a rap battle, with they keyword "Oracle"? Haha... Mr. Winter is bringing the heat for sure!
Always enjoyed Serral years ago and he was never shown because 'oh its no fun'
Was always interesed in the mechanic side and how he, as a relatively non caffenated person, especially compared to reynor, was able to play so high
I was a Zerg and wanting to learn (and pierced diamond to be fair) so maybe I was a little biased, but it was really interesting and helpful to watch him
Heard about his spellcaster trick the other week (just have one control group dedicated to each type of caster you have) and well, yeah it would've helped when I was playing, really didnt enjoy lategame and still wouldnt just from the eternal spellcaster shit show
That owl line killed me
At 1:29:22 which announcer voice is that?
Imagine if hero used proper hotkeys
Watching for two hours is intense, not sure how these top players are holding up 😅
First few minutes and I'm betting on Serral.
keep it up with this quality content, dude. glhf
Can someone tell me the song at 29:16? Can't seem to find it.
watching hero is so painful sometimes... first he plays an absolutely amazing game and pushes serral on the backfoot, getting a 4 upgrade advantage! the next moment he throws away immortals and prisms :/
Another great cast!
thanks for this content :) keep up good work
Wow I got here 7 seconds after it posted. FIRST!!!!!!