I just ordered a pair of these for my tourer. Will use Re-Strap Pedal Straps as not a fan of Allen Pinned or cleated shoes. Says they are sealed cartridge bearings on that cro-mo axle. A nice review here mate.
Good choice! These are cup and cone bearings. Shimano says "Sealed mechanism" not bearings. Not the same thing. Exploded view here dassets.shimano.com/content/dam/global/cg1SHICCycling/final/ev/ev/EV-PD-EF202-4722.pdf
I've been using EF 202 for more than 2 years. IMOP only disadvantage of 202 is it's crazy weight. It's more than gripy than you can image of a pedal without screws on it. And it's so cheap. Don't even need to consider it's robustness, if you try to destory your entire bike, i belive the pair of 202 will still last and working smoothly. Was a crazy fan of MKS pedals especially MKS-touring, but now 202 is my go to pedal now.
@@GearLama True, i like mks MT-E and sibling AR-2. Even better than Mks Touring. It's already for me to become muscle memory to flip the padel, just like I use clipless. But i have multi bikes and usually i will let others to ride one of them, i find most of people cannot flip it and much worse they cannot even tell they are pedalling on the wrong side. So i have to check some flat padels. And i have my own to go bike (not let any other to ride due to seat post already stuck at my perfect height and i have no reason to solve the problem now) i still very happy to use shimano T8000 dual function pedals. i will say the flap side is the best among all shimano flats, but it's much expensive. i won't feel dual pedal with flat and spd are good idea because actually stack height is different for both sides so you will have to change sadle height everytime, not really worth the seconds to do that.
you can say that again, my cheap plastic pedals are like 236 grams a pair, somehow one side started to get sticky, been looking for a non screw flat pedal replacement, found this one, but those 500+ grams are hard to swallow.
I bought these pedals online and saw in the box some leak. I thought the leak was a sign that the item is fake but seeing your unboxing makes me rethink that the leak might have been just over greasing. I already returned the item and was refunded but I still want to install these pedals on my bike. How do I make sure the pedals I buy next time are original? Care to share some tips?
These are cheap "kross" pedals that I found at the bikeshop because one of my bikes didn't come with pedals. I think they cost about 400rs local market. But they are surprisingly tough. I didn't exlect them to last a month but they work albiet with some grinding now after an year or so
@@GearLama Oh thanks. Can't seem to find them in USA now.. Well, I just ordered these Shimano's from REI. A bit heavier than I'd like to have, but they probably won't ever fail so that's a good thing..
I'd say the EF205 are more city centric while these are more general purpose. The 205 do not have the nubs/protrusions plus they are closed pedals. Closed pedals are great for the City but they don't do well in muddy situations like you would find on longish tours. Both have very similar specs so you can't go wrong with either just that 205 have a more city /urban centric use case
Trekking pedals so less than replacable nubs / screws. On the flip side your feet don't fly off the pedals thanks to the anodized chequered pattern on the flats. I'd say somewhere in the middle. Less than pins more than flat resin pedals
Hey, loved your video. Shimano’s website list these pedal as having sealed bearings but you say that they have replaceable cup&cone style bearings. Can you confirm if these pedals really do have cup and cone bearings?
It says "sealed mechanism" not sealed bearings. Loose bearings. Do check out the exploded diagram here dassets.shimano.com/content/dam/global/cg1SHICCycling/final/ev/ev/EV-PD-EF202-4722.pdf
Great review budd. Clean and clear. Quick question, can this flat pedals be used for road bikes? I have a OEM one just like your kross, thinking to replace it with FD. Thanks 👍
Yes pealds are standardised. So irrespective of the bike (road/hybrid) they will fit. Unless you're running some obscure campy crank. I'd say go for it
Decathlon india has them and so will almost any local bike shop. Go to the stores that deal with cheaper models and roadsters. They have loads just lying around
Sorry I didn't understand the context of your question. I thought you were referring to the biycle spoke reflectors. The Shimano pedal reflectors are unavailable in every online store right now. Nevertheless reflectors from other cheap pedals can be retrofitted with some tinkering.
Yes I do recommend it. I've done over 17000 kms on these pedals. Sealed bearings are great if you don't intend to rebuild. But I take all my pedals apart every year and regrease them with quality lithium grease. It gives them almost unlimited life
@@GearLama its wide which is perfect for me since i have size US 11 feet. the pins are also grippy even when i ride during the rain. no issues so far except my right pedal came in stiff, it spins but its not like usual pedals where you tap it and it spins alot, is this possibly due to the spindle being full of grease? or i need to "break in " the pedals first?
Always a good idea to share your use case and budget when asking gor a recommendation. For the city flats rule. You don't want to be in cycling specific shoes. Also MTB pedals with replaceable pins are far too aggressive for the city. I'd suggest stick to these, or pick something made of composite ( more colour choices) like the issi thump or the MKS gauss
After a few kilometres start to click. Bearings ridiculously difficult to service. If you somehow repack the grease and put bearings back in, you need a special (expensive!!!) tool to adjust them. Don't buy it!
It's rare to see a reviewer with such a deep knowledge about how the mechanics work. Very nice and refreshing!
I just ordered a pair of these for my tourer. Will use Re-Strap Pedal Straps as not a fan of Allen Pinned or cleated shoes. Says they are sealed cartridge bearings on that cro-mo axle. A nice review here mate.
Good choice! These are cup and cone bearings. Shimano says "Sealed mechanism" not bearings. Not the same thing. Exploded view here dassets.shimano.com/content/dam/global/cg1SHICCycling/final/ev/ev/EV-PD-EF202-4722.pdf
I've been using EF 202 for more than 2 years. IMOP only disadvantage of 202 is it's crazy weight. It's more than gripy than you can image of a pedal without screws on it. And it's so cheap. Don't even need to consider it's robustness, if you try to destory your entire bike, i belive the pair of 202 will still last and working smoothly. Was a crazy fan of MKS pedals especially MKS-touring, but now 202 is my go to pedal now.
I still find the MKS MT LIte excellent for the city / slightly rougher tours where you need more grip. Same price. Give them a shot
@@GearLama True, i like mks MT-E and sibling AR-2. Even better than Mks Touring. It's already for me to become muscle memory to flip the padel, just like I use clipless. But i have multi bikes and usually i will let others to ride one of them, i find most of people cannot flip it and much worse they cannot even tell they are pedalling on the wrong side. So i have to check some flat padels.
And i have my own to go bike (not let any other to ride due to seat post already stuck at my perfect height and i have no reason to solve the problem now) i still very happy to use shimano T8000 dual function pedals. i will say the flap side is the best among all shimano flats, but it's much expensive. i won't feel dual pedal with flat and spd are good idea because actually stack height is different for both sides so you will have to change sadle height everytime, not really worth the seconds to do that.
@@GearLama BTW MT-E is much lighter than 202, yes it's perfect if you use the bike all by yourself and it's not a fixie.
you can say that again, my cheap plastic pedals are like 236 grams a pair, somehow one side started to get sticky, been looking for a non screw flat pedal replacement, found this one, but those 500+ grams are hard to swallow.
Спасибо за обзор! Было бы неплохо ещё показать внутренности педалей и оценить качество защиты от грязи насыпных подшипников.
I bought these pedals online and saw in the box some leak. I thought the leak was a sign that the item is fake but seeing your unboxing makes me rethink that the leak might have been just over greasing. I already returned the item and was refunded but I still want to install these pedals on my bike. How do I make sure the pedals I buy next time are original? Care to share some tips?
Nice review, and thanks for sharing. Which brand/model nylon pedals were on the bike there? They look like something I'd be interested in more.
These are cheap "kross" pedals that I found at the bikeshop because one of my bikes didn't come with pedals. I think they cost about 400rs local market. But they are surprisingly tough. I didn't exlect them to last a month but they work albiet with some grinding now after an year or so
@@GearLama Oh thanks. Can't seem to find them in USA now.. Well, I just ordered these Shimano's from REI.
A bit heavier than I'd like to have, but they probably won't ever fail so that's a good thing..
2000 km in. Shimano still good as new. Only paint scraping off and a few dings where I've dropped my bike or have had rock hits
@@GearLama what is the visible color inside after paint scrapped off?
They are aluminum grey. Almost white
How does this compare to the Shimano EF205?
I'd say the EF205 are more city centric while these are more general purpose. The 205 do not have the nubs/protrusions plus they are closed pedals. Closed pedals are great for the City but they don't do well in muddy situations like you would find on longish tours. Both have very similar specs so you can't go wrong with either just that 205 have a more city /urban centric use case
@@ninjaomer86 pd202. 205 relies on concave shape has no explicit aluminium nubs
Great video, how is the grip in the wet?
Thank you
Trekking pedals so less than replacable nubs / screws. On the flip side your feet don't fly off the pedals thanks to the anodized chequered pattern on the flats. I'd say somewhere in the middle. Less than pins more than flat resin pedals
Hey, loved your video. Shimano’s website list these pedal as having sealed bearings but you say that they have replaceable cup&cone style bearings. Can you confirm if these pedals really do have cup and cone bearings?
It says "sealed mechanism" not sealed bearings. Loose bearings. Do check out the exploded diagram here dassets.shimano.com/content/dam/global/cg1SHICCycling/final/ev/ev/EV-PD-EF202-4722.pdf
Great review budd. Clean and clear. Quick question, can this flat pedals be used for road bikes? I have a OEM one just like your kross, thinking to replace it with FD. Thanks 👍
Yes pealds are standardised. So irrespective of the bike (road/hybrid) they will fit. Unless you're running some obscure campy crank. I'd say go for it
@@GearLama Thankyou. The current OEM fit is Wellgo K20410 plastic pedal came with the bike.. 😊
@@santhoshvihan6530 then it will be a great upgrade.
a year later, one "knocked". Can they be taken apart?
Yes they use cup and cone bearings. Can be taken apart gresed and rebuilt with just cone spanners and a screwdriver
Hi buddy where to buy the reflector.share the link if possible
Hi the reflectors are unavailable online as of now. Whenever they are back in stock with any reseller I will let you know!
how to know if the pedal will fit in my crankset ? Any standards available?
Pedals are standardised. Unless you're running some really exotic crank there is just one size
Hi, may I know where to get the reflectors? I couldn't find it anywhere
Decathlon india has them and so will almost any local bike shop. Go to the stores that deal with cheaper models and roadsters. They have loads just lying around
Thanks 🙏
Sorry I didn't understand the context of your question. I thought you were referring to the biycle spoke reflectors. The Shimano pedal reflectors are unavailable in every online store right now. Nevertheless reflectors from other cheap pedals can be retrofitted with some tinkering.
Thanks for the insightful review.
Im planning to buy this, do you recommend it? Is it ok even if its not sealed bearing?
Yes I do recommend it. I've done over 17000 kms on these pedals. Sealed bearings are great if you don't intend to rebuild. But I take all my pedals apart every year and regrease them with quality lithium grease. It gives them almost unlimited life
@@GearLama man you replied too late i already purchse shimano PD-GR400 🤣 it was only 8 US dollars more than PD-EF202 so i went ahead with it.
@@hc661 sorry about the delay. My bad. Do let me know how the gr feels
@@GearLama its wide which is perfect for me since i have size US 11 feet.
the pins are also grippy even when i ride during the rain.
no issues so far except my right pedal came in stiff, it spins but its not like usual pedals where you tap it and it spins alot, is this possibly due to the spindle being full of grease? or i need to "break in " the pedals first?
@@hc661 Shimano pedals usually loosen up around 500 kms or so. Need breaking in.
Shimano Pedal Reflector SM-PD69 - Suitable for: PD69 / EF202 / EF205
these are the correct ones
what are your best recommendation for a city bike pedal, please?
Always a good idea to share your use case and budget when asking gor a recommendation. For the city flats rule. You don't want to be in cycling specific shoes. Also MTB pedals with replaceable pins are far too aggressive for the city. I'd suggest stick to these, or pick something made of composite ( more colour choices) like the issi thump or the MKS gauss
@@GearLama thank you. Have you seen the new Ergon PT pedal? it seems really nice too
Yes decent pedals. Most of ergon products are
really nice review ;)
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Excellent detailed review! Thanks for sharing
Glad it was helpful!
isn’t it a bit heavy?
Yes they are. Not geared towards the sport market. These are more of commuter / city / touring specific pedals
@@GearLama Oh i see. thank you for answer
Great details! Thanks!💕
I love dis padels
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Nice bike...
Thanks ✌️
After a few kilometres start to click. Bearings ridiculously difficult to service. If you somehow repack the grease and put bearings back in, you need a special (expensive!!!) tool to adjust them. Don't buy it!
A cone wrench and needle nose pliers work just fine