The History and Mythology of the "First Thanksgiving"

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  • Опубліковано 12 гру 2024

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  • @USCapitolHistory
    @USCapitolHistory  2 місяці тому +2

    Watch our panel discussion from our 2024 Native American Suffrage Symposium about Native American Representation in National and Local Narratives.👀

  • @maryd.6067
    @maryd.6067 3 роки тому +3

    Thank you, Capitol Historical Society and Dr Silverman

  • @Biblical_DNA
    @Biblical_DNA 16 днів тому +1

    The *first official Thanksgiving* was in 1637, when Massachusetts Bay Colony Governor John Winthrop declared a day of thanksgiving to celebrate the massacre of Pequot people. An official proclamation of Thanksgiving was declared by the Massachusetts Bay Colony Governor John Winthrop in 1637 after the English settlers' and their Native American allies victory against the Pequot tribe at the Battle of Mistick Fort (located today in Mystic, Connecticut).

  • @susanwilliams6710
    @susanwilliams6710 Рік тому +3

    Susan here, trying to finish her long Thank God comments…I struggle with typing on my iPhone…
    Gee, what was my unfinished sentence?! Well, here’s the bottom line: any imperial power or its agents with its “incursion” into foreign lands immediately debases the indigenous laws of land and property ownership. The English began doing this in Ireland at the time of Henry II. Read the histories Gerald of Wales wrote of Ireland!
    As a Catholic American, I know what the Pilgrims did to Catholics in New France/New England-in Maine!
    We are morally obliged to sever the political chains that obfuscate the truths of U. S. history so that we can fully value and live our American history.
    A Hopi man said to me recently in my small New Mexico town, identifying my obvious whiteness, “When you come to ruin-and you will-my people will be here to help you learn to survive.” I held his hand very hard in gratitude as my eyes filled with tears.
    We must love and respect each other with bigger hearts.

    • @ajd3369
      @ajd3369 Рік тому

      You have great insight, and on q larger scale can we communicate

    • @ajd3369
      @ajd3369 Рік тому

      You have great insight, can we communicate

  • @benjaminparadise6397
    @benjaminparadise6397 2 роки тому +3

    I listened to the entire History of plymouth plantation 1608-1650 by William Bradford, and didn't realize until now that only about half of the people on the Mayflower were "pilgrims". The other half were basically just coming for land and to bring beaver back to Europe (because they basically decimated the beaver population in Europe). Until now, I always thought the entire group of people on the Mayflower were pilgrims.

    • @Endgame707
      @Endgame707 2 роки тому +1

      Hey did you know that U.S. president Abraham Lincoln was obsessed with the pilgrims? He wrote in his journal that he’s been obsessed with the pilgrims ever since he was 17

    • @TheSellenhut
      @TheSellenhut 2 роки тому +1

      They had investors, sponsors, underwriters. Whatever you want to call them.

  • @SandaClaus
    @SandaClaus 3 роки тому +12

    Thank you for this eye-opening and mind-boggling explication of the facts surrounding the Pilgrims and the Indians. It is more disturbing than even a PBS American Experience history of Thanksgiving Day and other articles I have read. We have a lot as a nation to reckon with about our past. If we gradually accept what we have done to Indigenous Peoples of what became the United States we may be able to become even stronger as we move through this difficult period of time.

    • @cosmomusic
      @cosmomusic 15 днів тому

      Blah blah, misguided self haters

  • @cesarnavarrete6570
    @cesarnavarrete6570 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for this eye-opening and mind-boggling explication of the facts surrounding the Pilgrims and the Indians. It is more disturbing than even a PBS American Experience history of Thanksgiving Day and other articles I have read. We have a lot as a nation to reckon with about our past. If we gradually accept what we have done to Indigenous Peoples of what became the United States we may be able to become even stronger as we move through this difficult period of time.

  • @mgd6087
    @mgd6087 Рік тому +1

    Stunning.

  • @gabriellamar2683
    @gabriellamar2683 3 роки тому

    Amazing how history changes when we have records from all parties. Excellent presentation!

  • @neiljorgensen6646
    @neiljorgensen6646 7 місяців тому

    Great webinar Dr. Silverman

  • @thebookkeeper8404
    @thebookkeeper8404 2 роки тому

    Thank you Thank you Thank you

  • @TheSellenhut
    @TheSellenhut 2 роки тому +2

    David Silverman says, ''this terrible conflict(King Phillip's War 1675) is the most basic feature of English-Wampanoag relations that the Thanksgiving 1621 'myth' studiously ignores''. So the 1621 myth ignores the1675 war. I don't get it. I will admit lots of opportunity to avoid bloodshed were lost over the course of those 50 years. Sudden waves of unchecked blossoming immigration brings things to a head. Who doesn't know this? The Great New England Indian War was well known into the 1800s. No hidden past.
    There's no myth. The newcomers were thankful to God that some of them were still alive and had stores of food ready for the coming winter this time. The fact that there might've been a few natives on hand for the feast was one more reason to be hopeful that they might survive more years. Fifty years later tensions came to a head and war ensued. No myth.

  • @VernonNickersonSCHOOLCOACH
    @VernonNickersonSCHOOLCOACH 3 роки тому

    " A consensual, bloodless affair"...love this already!

  • @Pdrydenhol
    @Pdrydenhol 2 роки тому

    Thanks for the truth

  • @PaolaSanchez-hc5my
    @PaolaSanchez-hc5my 3 роки тому +4

    Happy Thanksgiving! I love this American holiday!

    • @diegovalerius
      @diegovalerius Рік тому +1

      didn’t get it, did you?

    • @djenabaalfatah3896
      @djenabaalfatah3896 16 днів тому

      No She did not! Soooo Sad! 😭 ​@@diegovalerius

    • @cosmomusic
      @cosmomusic 15 днів тому

      ​@@djenabaalfatah3896happy Thanksgiving y'all losers!lovers!! America is awesome, no apologies needed

  • @Cat-ik1wo
    @Cat-ik1wo 20 днів тому

    1st thanksgiving was in St. Augustine, Fl. The north is a liar.

  • @tbone6203
    @tbone6203 2 роки тому

    White man tellin me the history of my people- john lawson fate

    • @USCapitolHistory
      @USCapitolHistory  2 роки тому +2

      For an Indigenous perspective on Indigenous history, we encourage you to watch our recent conversation with Lance Corporal Thomas Begay, one of three living Navajo Code Talkers, which you can watch here: ua-cam.com/video/SVSt8g5IpJQ/v-deo.html. He was joined by a Hopi journalist Patty Talahongva, who produced a film about the Code Talkers for the American Indian Museum in Washington, D.C.

    • @tbone6203
      @tbone6203 2 роки тому +1

      No yall crazy re writing history - some fat ass white man trying to be relevant in the faculty lounge is not history

    • @TheSellenhut
      @TheSellenhut 2 роки тому

      The Wampanoag today pass down stories of the white people walking through miles of abandoned native villages with skeletons all over from the plagues that came in the years leading up to the Mayflower. That's why the tribes did not like outsider tribes. They did not know what illnesses they carried with them.

    • @Biblical_DNA
      @Biblical_DNA 16 днів тому

      ​@@tbone6203 you mean a Edomite. David isn't "white".

  • @JohnMacFergus-oz5cp
    @JohnMacFergus-oz5cp 15 днів тому

    Darn colonizers!

  • @mikemurray1047
    @mikemurray1047 Рік тому

    We were taught in our school that the first thanksgiving the main dinner on the table was pizza. The chef aboard the mayflower was Italian, and prepared several large pizzas to share with the Indians. But because there was not enough pepperoni on the Pizza, the Indians later revolted against the pilgrims

  • @TFG0045
    @TFG0045 3 роки тому +3

    BS

  • @cosmomusic
    @cosmomusic 15 днів тому

    Blah blah, misguided self haters