So the Pilgrims were Puritans. I am thankful to their desire to come here and serve the covenant God. I'm so tired of my college professors saying they were just coming here for greedy capitalism. They were honest and humble and though not perfect as none of us are, they were truly seeking to follow God.
Everyone were alcoholics back then. In Europe you didn’t drink the water because it was polluted all over Europe, so people drink beer and wine only, even children. Most were from the netherlands and were claim jumpers, bail jumpers and other serfs. The first thing they did on plymout rock was make homemade alcohol, they didn’t know they could drink the water in America. They had dt’s and tried to keep the Mayflower from leaving. They begged for more alcohol, because the journey took 66 days, instead of 40, but there was a crew who needed their share of alcohol & left back to England.
I haven't read through the comments as when I read yours (which was about the fourth or fifth one down) I realize that there are people who have no insight about certain topics yet feel that their opinion on the matter is righteous and all others are ignorant, however I am very much interested in history and have read and viewed a fair amount and they are making the pilgrims look like they were fair and impartial and everyone had a vote but that is not the case, as with far too many groups only the ones that had money and position had any say in what went on, vote etc.
@@captaincurd2681what was i wrong about or did i say something that offended you ? I'm not speaking for the OP but I'm pretty sure that he wasn't talking about me when he posted as I have only posted twice on this channel and this was in response to his so ...
I love the statement from the older Native American at about 50 mins in. He says that what they are doing now is saying this is your land, you have to learn their language and follow their rules. That was not something imposed by the Pilgrims at all. Perhaps he should have better knowledge of his own history because this is what was done to tribes when they were conquered by other tribes. The Male tribal members were often killed, the women were taken and were used to increase the size of the conquering tribe. The facts are that the pilgrims were invited to stay by Massasoit. They entered into a treaty which lasted for over 50 years which was a mutual aid and mutual defense treaty to benefit both sides. The Wampanoag had suffered terribly from diseases ravaging their members in some areas with as high as 90% fatalities, this made them vulnerable to attacks from the Naraganset and other tribes. The other thing that gets me is that people have said that these diseases were intentionally introduced by the Europeans back then. This is ridiculous. With no microscopes and no understanding of how these diseases were formed or spread there is no way they could have known anything about what would have been fatal and what would not or even how they diseases were exactly transmitted. The fact that other encounters later did not go as well as this encounter with the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag does not mean you dismiss the importance of this encounter and the 50 years of peace and mutual defense that came from it.
@@zacksmith2227 then maybe Masasoit shouldn't have entered into a peace treaty with them and he could have just wiped them out. Isn't he really to blame since he had the power to send them away, kill them or let them starve to death.
Finally someone understands the history. It's sad how many really do not understand the real history and just lump the Mayflower in with the Europeans before and after.
@@zacksmith2227 Unlike the centuries of pain and suffering that the natives inflicted upon each other? Read Percy's account of Jamestown and the new world. He records that the natives were perpetually at war with one another.
William and Susanna (Jackson) White are my 8th great grandparents. Resolute, their 5 year old son at the time of the voyage and his wife Judith (Vassall) my 7th.
I’m a descendent of John Billington (the first colonial murderer-I know!) and also of Eaton, both were “Strangers.” It wasn’t just a few “Strangers.” They made up fully half the people on the Mayflower.. The trip across the ocean would not have been made without the Strangers, as they paid fares to take this trip. Also, the Mayflower itself was leased by the “Stranger”-oriented Adventure Company, also responsible for getting the Strangers to sign up. I really have a soft spot in my heart for the Strangers--who never get much credit for their role in getting the American experiment going. They are usually left out of any celebrations. So, yay Strangers! Glad you made it!
To the historian that said “they probably wouldn’t be palatable today” because they said that they would be great, and that the worlds eyes would be upon them that everyone would want to be like them. Well, they weren’t far off when they said it…. Sounds to me like you pronounced a blessing that came to pass. 😎🇺🇸
Do more research on who came over on the Mayflower, suggestion, dark cargo of the Mayflower. It’s on youtube. Many books have been written about who was on the Mayflower. I don’t know if libraries are still open where you can peruse the book titles. Google, has an algorithm and skews to what’s read the most.
Captain Myles Standish is my husband's 12th great grandfather. We are Canadians. Never knew until this year after researching ancestry did we realize we have a connection to the good old USA!
@aprilgeorge5208 Go read them and find out. I think the answer would suprise you. The problem is, most people have the book "The Scarlett Letter" in mind when the word "Puratin "comes up. Keep in mind that is historical fiction novel.
25:50, the narrator says that John Smith founded a colony in Virginia (Jamestown.) Actually, It wasn't John, but the Virginia Company of London. In fact, men such as Newport, Gosnold, and Wingfield "outranked" (for lack of a better word,) Smith.
The Bible the 'Pilgrim Fathers' brought with them was not a product of the Frenchman Jean (John) Calvin. The Holy Bible - Geneva Edition 1st Printing, 1st Edition in 1560 Given back to the people so all may understand The Geneva Bible was first printed in Geneva, Switzerland, by refugees from England, fleeing the persecution of Protestants by Roman Catholic Queen “Bloody” Mary. Many copies were smuggled back into England at great personal risk. In later years, when Protestant-friendly Queen Elizabeth took the throne, printing of the Geneva Bible moved back to England. The Geneva Bible was produced by John Calvin, John Knox, Myles Coverdale, John Foxe, and other Reformers. It is the version that William Shakespeare quotes from hundreds of times in his plays, and the first English Bible to offer plain roman-style type in some of its early printings. The Geneva Bible was the first Bible taken to America, brought over on the Mayflower… it is the Bible upon which early America and its government was founded (certainly not the King’s of England’s Bible!) The Geneva Bible was also the first English Bible to break the chapters of scripture into numbered verses, and it was the first true “Study Bible” offering extensive commentary notes in the margins. It was so accurate and popular, that a half-century later, when the King James Bible came out… it retained more than 90% of the exact wording of the Geneva Bible. The Geneva Bible was the “Bible of the Protestant Reformation”, and the Bible of the Puritans and Pilgrims. It was the first Bible taken to America, brought over on the Mayflower. The Geneva Bible is the Bible upon which America was founded. You can imagine, most early American colonists, who were fleeing the religious oppression of the Anglican Church (Church of England), wanted nothing to do with the King James Bible of the Anglican Church! Textually, the Geneva Bible offered a number of radical never-before-seen changes: It was the first Bible in English to add numbered verses to each chapter of scripture. Also, the Geneva was the first Bible to introduce easier-to-read “Roman Style Typeface” rather than the “Gothic Blackletter Style Typeface” which had been used exclusively in earlier Bibles. Another curious innovation; the Geneva was the first “Study Bible” with extensive commentary notes in the margins. The Geneva Bible is the version quoted from hundreds of times by William Shakespeare in his plays. Also called the “Breeches Bible”, the Geneva Bible is the only Bible ever able to outsell and exceed the popularity of the King James Bible, as it did in the early 1600’s until its printing ceased in 1644. In fact, one of the greatest ironies of history, is that Protestants of all denominations today embrace the King James Version of the Bible (which reads 90% the same as the Geneva), even though the King James Version is not a Protestant Bible (it’s Anglican / Church of England). Most Protestants have never even heard of the Bible of their own heritage: the Geneva Bible. It was produced by John Calvin, John Knox, Myles Coverdale, John Foxe, & other English refugees in ever-neutral Geneva, Switzerland… fleeing the persecution of Roman Catholic Queen “Bloody” Mary in England. Mary would not tolerate the Protestant Geneva Bible, which proclaimed the Pope an “antichrist” in its commentary notes.
Tolle Lege Press has republished the GENEVA BIBLE 1599 edition and it is available for purchase now. PS. THE POPE IS STILL THE ANTICHRIST. THIS IS BIBLICAL TRUTH.
@@rosemerrynmcmillan1611 Yes, he's the disguised Luciferian-Babylonian Roman Emperor. I have the Geneva Bible 1560 and 1599 at home. We all need to get saved from having to spend our eternity in God's lake of fire, because that's a fate we ALL deserve. So get SAVED and believe that God LOVES us so MUCH that He manifested Himself on earth as the Lord JESUS Christ who shed His sinless blood for the forgiveness of our sins, who was buried and rose from the dead, three days later, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. If you believe this you're not only saved but sealed with the Holy Spirit and rapture-ready. Read your Bible everyday and talk to our creator about everything and make Him your best Friend and share this GOOD NEWS = GOSPEL with others.
I heard one of the main reasons is that Europe was getting too materialistic.. Just as the world is now, they wanted to spend their time focused on the Risen Christ and God's word in the Bible, They didn't want their children focused on materialism, but on the Risen Savior, Jesus Christ also..
They left Holland after 12 years because they found it to liberal and they couldn't make a good profit in trade and weren't allowed to trade or ship to the Dutch colonies in Amerika. So they went to England and sailed straight on to Amerika where they settled near the Dutch. But refused any help because they were stubborn and found that the Dutch gave more about trade than god. Actually had nothing to do with freedom or religion.
Those that came over on the Mayflower were not Puritans. They were Separatists. The Puritans arrived at Massachusetts Bay 7 years later. ... Today's Separatists would be Baptist Fundamentalists. What you think of them is what England including The Puritans thought of the Pilgrim Separatists.
Well that is one of the problems with cultures that have a history of oral tradition instead on writing stories down. The best example is the game of telephone. You start a message and say it from one to another around the room and often what you get from the last person who is told it varies greatly from the first person. As much as you try to be true to a story it will have this same potential of deviation or alteration. William Bradford's journal and few letters from other Pilgrims survive, unmodified, unedited and they give an account of life at Plymouth colony at that time. There may be some bias from the writers perspective but we know that what is written, what is described was written back then and has not been subject to changes, modifications, bad memory, a misunderstanding of what someone was told.
8:31 "They believe they serve a higher cause, and want to show England and the world their righteous way." "We are going to be a city upon a hill, they eyes of the world are upon us." They proved they were right. They were the original founding fathers of the United States.
My Great Great Grandfather was Rodger Williams! He discovered Rhoades Island. He landed in Massachusetts. He Started the Independent Baptist Church! 1629. Wrote 5 books on Christianity. Massachusetts was Catholic. He left and found Rhoades Island.
First of all, his name was Roger Williams, not Rodger. He's your relative and you don't even know his name? Secondly, it is Rhode Island. And he must have been at least five or six greats. Your great great GF was alive around the turn of the 20th century.
You left a few great grandfathers out. 13 million Americans are descended from the Pilgrims. The first chartered church in America was founded by Tacy Hubbard. Roger would have been disappointed in your spelling.
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If I might add, more than half of the puritans virtues where formed in the Netherlands. They lived for 12 years in the first Republic in the world. Where they learned what freedom of speech, religion, practice and ownership means. They had to work hard to get their hands on documents from the Dutch settlements between the Delaware and Connecticut rivers. They found investors, bought a ship and renamed it speedwell. And they left Holland because it was to protestant and liberal for their taste, and they couldn't make a good profit there. They sailed to Britain to free more of their kin. Bought another ship and went the same route as the Dutch went. They got to America and had several contacts with settlers from the Dutch city of New Amsterdam, later New York. After the crops failed and they got in need of help the Dutch went there twice. Offering food and some cows. But this was rejected because of fear of debt or depending on the Dutch towns and their gouverner. So they refused. It's said that they where afraid they couldn't Christan the Dutch but could reform the Indian culture. After all the Indians helped them and soon there was a Dutch, Anglo, Indian war going on. Suprise suprise. To be fair it was the same time as the 2nd or 3rd Anglo Dutch war world wide so.. kinda logical they got dragged in as well. Much later on the English colonies grew and during the 3rd Anglo Dutch war. The British conquers the nee Netherlands region and New Amsterdam became New York. Orange became Albany, fort Nassau, Harlem, Bronx and lots more kept their names. Fun fact.. before transferring all Dutch procession to the British the Dutch govener freed all slaves, not for humanitaire reasons but because they wouldn't be involved with the transfer. All woman with ownership got compensation and the Indian shop and market where 'kindly' asked to leave. Although government and religion in the region was kept Dutch for almost a century. It lost its Dutch cultural bands. Luckily the background and bases of the USA are well founded on Dutch traditions. From the Dutch harvest festival as Thanksgiving or Sinterklaas as Santa Claus. Words like cookie, wagon, boss and many more. Presidents like Roosevelt or van Buren who only spoke Dutch. The fact that the declaration of independence was written up in Dutch and almost a exact copy of the Dutch onafhankelijkheidsverklaring. No... These pelgrims where good is false advertisement and swindle in trade. They where not to be trusted and did not stand on the cradle of America as a country and if they did they stood behind the Dutch!
A few ages before that the Dutch celebrated ‘oogstfeest’. Which is the same as thanksgiving. History is simple when you know who wrote the true story. 😂
Not sure. But I am sick of EVERY wrong that has been done to Native Americans being piled on the Mayflower. There were settlers before and after from other countries as well as Britain that had plenty of impact.
It would have continued to be a rich, thriving continent! The mass deaths that resulted from colonization actually changed the climate. Learn accurate history.
@@robynadamson2051 , I am a historian in St. Augustine, Florida, where the Timucua lived for over 4,000 years before Juan Ponce de Leon claimed La Florida for Spain as the first European to formally take "possession " of what is now the United States. You MUST be of English decent and feel as if you have to redeem your ignorant self for your ancestors stupid decisions! As for me, I shall learn from true history and not HIStory, whoever is writing it at that moment!!!!! Good day to you!
The pilgrims did pay back the natives with supplies when they were able to. That old native woman in the video is wrong, she laughed when she knew she was lying to promote antiwhite sentiment
Not only that, but the pilgrims and early settlers kept every contract they had with the Indians, who welcomed them to North America. It wasn't until King Philip's War, when an Indian betrayed a pact with the white settlers, that they developed the idea that Indians were not trustworthy. The Indians were the ones who violated the sanctity of the friendship between the settlers and the Indians. I'm fed up with all the lies that are told just to make white people look back.
On the whole, this docu was okay -- but I did not like the negative sign-off -- it's like they felt they had to get one more kick in on these settlers. And let's not confuse the intent of Pilgrims with those that followed... Pilgirms basically wanted there own chunk of land (and not a ton of it as inferred somewhere in the mix)so that they could pray the way they wanted to pray and not live under British rule. This is not complicated. They were not 'greedy land grabbers' . They eventually got on well with their new neighbors and eventually it was about the symbiosis formed - the dependency whcih was MUTUAL. Sick of Pilgrims being villified in recent times...they were probably the most pure of heart by comparison of any other group.
All countries have good and bad in their histories and narratives shift from who is telling them and why. Yet we are witnessing so many coming from all lands just to step into the United States. Somethings don't get told and we are living it.
Without the Wampanoag Indians bailing the starving Pilgrims out with turkey's, pumpkin pies and cranberry sauce!!! Their would be no Thanksgiving Day!!!
"English set sail from their temporary homes in Holland in 1620".... What would have happened to America had they not done this. I enjoyed this video and I don't know how it got in my recommended. It behooves me because I've been thinking about the first settlers in the Americas before the Civil War.... how did Big Brother know what I was thinking🤔 Much respect from katrinka in the San Francisco Bay Area
The truth is that the "Pilgrim Fathers" were not the founders of the United States as is often said. That is an Anglocentric belief. The Spanish were already there a century earlier. They were in places like Florida or California. The first European language heard in what is now the United States was Spanish, just as the first Christian denomination to arrive was Catholic....
Look, they were my personal ancestors, but they were Puritans and Calvanists. Not liberal. The focus on personal predestined salvation made them willing to ignore some conflicts but to impose severe social sanctions on others.
My Grand father's Grandfather was English and his Grandmother was Cherokee But to know how one treated the other I would for sure stand with my Cherokee Heritage the battle of the Chicamagu was my ancestors Dragging Canoe
Like turning a blind eye on enslaving and mistreating 7 million Africans or using criminal behaviour to take land from the indigenous population. In terms of salvation knowing what we do with history i wonder whether those ancestors are sitting with God in righteousness or are in that other place reserved for the the wicked and the damned?
@@zacksmith2227 Who sold the 7,000,000 Africans? Their own people. Who eradicated slavery in the modern world? England and America. Be careful when you speak with a forked tongue because the story is much, much deeper than you let on.
Great documentary. Except for a half black woman with a chip on her shoulder attempting pass herself off as a Indian. If this company paid her, they should ask for a refund! Same goes for her brother. You know the other Indian.
The other early colonists, the Protestant extremists known lovingly in American history as Puritans, did not offer Christian kindness to the natives of Massachusetts for long after the mythical “first thanksgiving.” As in many lands before and since, disease scourged the native populations, which the loving Christians considered a “wonderful plague”: in 1634 John Winthrop could write that the Indians “are neere all dead of the small Poxe, so as the Lord hathe cleared our title to what we possess.”28 Unsatisfied with the reduction of the indigenous population, wars against the Pequots in 1637 and the Wampanoags in 1675 and 1676 freed up more land for Christian use.
People in the 1600s didn't know what germs were. They is no way they could have intentionally spread small pox. They gave the Native Americans blankets and clothes. How would they have known they were infected with small pox? Good grief!
@@StephenButlerOne The ultimate clash between a stone age people and newcomer modernity is inevitable. When the first humanoids arrived(probably via the Ice Age land bridge across the Bering sea, they eventually killed of the Mammoth, dire wolf, giant sloth and the rest. In turn their decedents, split into tribes, waged war in and slaughtered each other. The Wampanoag were great friends to the people of the new colony. They coexisted for decades. But new generations saw the land of great opportunity for building their lives and society. I, for one, cherish the Thanksgiving tradition, even tho I’m not keen on eating eel. It is our people’s tradition. The tribes are welcome to join us in celebration or not. Our people have had to overcome our own subjugations and depredations. We move past and built the society that has evolved to provide the most freedom and prosperity of any before. The Indian tribes, Africans, Chinese, and the rest could not achieve this, but may join us and integrate into our culture and accept its terms. Or separate and hang onto their old culture and live lives of resentment and envy.
@@StephenButlerOne They have found evidence that strongly suggests that the Vikings enslaved Natives and even took many of them with them back to Greenland and Iceland. So nice try.
The most cases boy with Bradford have not gotten enough respect from history of the history teaching attended leaving now truly he was a man of faith hey actual beginning of the forefathers shaping this nation by the word of God
The fellow, who I suspect is Native American, that says the first Thanksgiving was a lie, is lying. He says it was not a sanctified celebration. It had not the same meaning it did for the Christians but they did enter into a celebration is a civil unity and I am sure were thankful that they were able to have a lasting peace and relationship. Has much been made of this by our once Christian nation, yes, and before God it should be for the Providential hand that has blessed this nation that all Native American have greatly benefited by. The Native Americans did have to risk life and limb to be in America and receive the many blessings, as have hundreds of millions had to endure to come here. Much has been made of complaint by the Native Americans, with a few exceptions, to their detriment and dishonor to God and country. If left to themselves it's likely they would still be wondering the woods and plains and believing the height of success was to obtain a scalp of the neighboring tribes. This film did a reasonable job of giving an accurate reenactment but when they give time to this lie they discredited the whole film, shame on you, repent and believe in the only Savior, which is who and why the Pilgrims gave us the beginnings of this Nation. Acts 4:12
*"Mayflower" didn't bring the best of the best of their populations back then, pushing away the real land owners and send them to concentration reserves against their will, and even so when pilgrims were doomed in winter were saved by the sympathy and good will of the First Nation People and in return they paid them back with ungratefulness and greediness until today*
@@janethompson9390, no, not really. Wrongs were committed at the time, but all involved are long dead at this point and a new country is well established. So, no, it's not still going on today. How many centuries back would you apply your "logic"? The whole world would need a lot of adjustment if every country has to give back any land that was once conquered by their ancestors.
“Wouldn’t be very palatable to us today” This is exactly how Mormons are in Utah. They view themselves as a city upon a hill and have adopted that same religious confidence and cockiness.
I didn't care for that guys take = alot of inference based on his imagination. This is why historians? need to stick to facts versus trying to come up with a clever take...esp in these times when they want to be popular with the kiddies so they stir up their emotions to get them involved.
The Puritans were actually very full of joy. If you're interested, read them in their own written works instead of a secular documentary. This was an interesting video but not fully accurate.
NOT Columbus, it was Juan Ponce de Leon, in 1513! Contrary to your WRONG HIGH SCHOOL TEXT BOOKS, Columbus NEVER stepped foot on the continental United States!!!! AGAIN, YOUR WELCOME! DO YOUR RESEARCH, STOP RELYING ON DUMBASSES!
Read EVERYTHING, try to piece together the truth, DON'T STOP, they have lied to us from the beginning but it is up to us to try and find the pieces of TRUTH, It's not always HISTORY, it is HIS story, whoever is writing it at that moment!!!! # FountainofYouth is a lie!!!!!!!!!!
I am a direct line ancestor to John Alden of the Mayflower. Please do research on your own to find the truth. Many have been taught wrongly about them.
This kinda sucked. It wasn’t a battle with the indigenous peoples. It was a massacre. They also didn’t have pumpkins. Sugar coated history is just mythical tales.
God led the hebrews through all kinds of treachery and gave them a homeland. He did the same for european christians. Gotta problem with that lol take it up with him!
@An A Count Palestinians arent the caananites, jews arent the hebrews of old and we did to the indians what they tried to do to us and what they did to each other before we landed. God doesnt hate anyone. If you chose not to walk with him then thats your free will choice. You cant blame your problems on someone you have nothing to do with right?
@Salvador Vizcarra Look it up: The US killed about 20-30 million people after 1945 Columbus was an agent of the Vatican and he didn't discover the Americas but he came to claim it for the Vatican. Most of the America's got colonized by Catholic countries Spain and Portugal. The problem for the Vatican was that their enemies, the Protestants, also came to the 'New World'. But over time the Vatican managed to control the Protestants too and when the Pope visited the US in 2015 under their puppet 'Obama' the work was done. Currently the Catholic pawn of the Vatican (Biden) is president, controlled by 'Obama', that other Vatican controlled puppet. What is the Vatican? That's the disguised Luciferian-Babylonian Roman Empire and the organization that is behind the current great reset disguised as a fake pandemic. leading to the implementation of the Mark of the Beast, the final 'vaccine' disguised as a bandaid and which is the quantum dot tattoo containing Luciferase. Believe the Gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and be saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit and rapture ready.
It's annoying to the nth that they say some folks see this as a day of mourning..but don't explain why. Ask a Narragansett. Ugh.. And yall wonder why we can't just get over it. 🙄
Me fascina la discusión en torno a una especie invasora la cual, en oleadas sucesivas, trata de argumentar la idea en torno a que ellos llegaron antes y por tanto el pastel les pertenece. Ordenad vuestras prioridades. Todos sois humanos y vuestras prioridades tienen la misma importancia e interés. "Indígenas o invasores". Cero.
That Indian in the blue shirt is mad. Sorry, Indians but at least you are here to complain. If you believe that it could not have been worse then you're wrong. It could have been better too. I am Irish, French and Cherokee. This land is a melting pot of the whole world. God bless us.
My mom english cherokee My dad irish cherokee I am more cherokee than either of the other two I say all time I do not hold grudge for the past the world isnt as big as it used to be and we all have to live together and we should learn to love our neighbor no matter what race they are
Converting, why would they do the same thing that was trying to be done to them to the natives, they were running from being forcefully converted, they know how it feels but yet that's the first thing they try doing to the natives
@@robpeterson8006 you should know that Florida was a SPANISH CLAIMED TERRITORY BY 1513!!!! No? Well look it up!!!! We were here in 1513, NOT SOME STUPID 1619 PROJECT BULLSHIT! Your welcome!!! FORT MOSE!!!!!
@@wfellow1 my precious! Sorry, Google spell check seems to be liberal with their check!!!! I just get so excited proving someone WRONG!!!! 1513, Spanish rule was already established, 1565 St. Augustine was the most diverse settlement established in the NEW WORLD, but y'all keep pretending some stupid 1619 bs!!!!!
They add in comments from native Americans about lies but they don't explain those lies and if it was so bad for the Indians why did they continue to help the settlers survive.
Didn't the pilgrims consist mostly of puritans? What I'm saying I heard they left Europe to start a New life with (No Sin) that was the big deal which is what brought us the Salem Witch Trials in the First place(Not Many Died Any ways) but still a big deal. In which this tell us their values in Life. Strict, Moral, and down to Earth People. Not Modern idealists like we wish to think.
The Pilgrims founded Plymouth Colony and were Separatists not Puritans. The Puritans founded nearby Massachusetts Bay Colony 7 years later. The two Colonies were later joined together to form the Colony of Massachusetts. This often causes some confusion.
Its my understanding that every person was required to be participating in faith related activities and being a member of the church was something only the most affluent people could achieve but also those positions were specifically made to be filled by those people. 60 years after this the witch scare evinces this - saying that people who were not members of the church were tolerated because of religious freedom is wrong. Everyone was expected to be Christian, including enslaved people, and people were punished for not participating in faith based activities often enough even when their reasons were not based on religious objection (being fined for not going to church on a Sunday for example - this fine was not merely applied to "church members" but to everyone.). I'm a Christian learning more about this period of history so please don't misunderstand my intention for pointing this out, I don't want to tear anyone or anything down, just want to make sure that we are understanding history as correctly as we can.
8/17/22 - I am also a descendant, a member of the Mayflower Society. I am deeply saddened and shocked at the treatment of people back in those cruel times. The torture tools of Europe unimaginable considering they were civilized and religious. All lovers of humanity know the truth: the narcissists and psychopaths conquered us and mother earth - we have been systematically and strategically raped by a few animals - fear and inhumane control has been utilized with some tourniquet fashioned relief for their sadistic pleasure. What is the end game of this movement?
The world was a different place, and we have the benefit of vastly superior knowledge and hindsight. Every group, every country participated in extremely inhumane activities and no group can be singled out. Native Americans were no different. Judging people from an entirely different world with our modern knowledge and attitudes doesn't really get anything done. We weren't there, and we will never understand the world they came from, and we should leave it at that.
the natives in this are a hoot. hanging onto their "side" of the story and never moving on. Everything did not play out fairly, but hanging onto all that old hatred has done what for your people? nothing.
Natives, im tired of leftist whining about natives, girl everything you love about western civilization like freedom liberalism etc... would not be posible without european colonization wherever you like it or not i dont care about natives human history is just one big fight for the survival of the strongest it always Been like that, in all civilizations, new and old, so when annoying leftist say things like "natives were peaceful tribal people until those evil white people came along" i want to laught, its history stop complaining about standards of people in the past from a 21st century point of views its weird and it doest make any sense
It is now March. So this videograph was made in March. WHAT is now March? What is "IT"? Understandin the speaker is not good enough. He must include every word. I think he meant "In our imagination, NOW is now March." Rather redundant, wouldn't U say? How about "In our imagination, now is March" or "In our imagination, March is now." Because March was, outside of imagination, THEN, not now.
So the Pilgrims were Puritans. I am thankful to their desire to come here and serve the covenant God. I'm so tired of my college professors saying they were just coming here for greedy capitalism. They were honest and humble and though not perfect as none of us are, they were truly seeking to follow God.
Puritans and Quakers are different religious sects. My Pilgrim ancestors were Quakers, not Puritans. Their beliefs are different.
Pilgrims were not Quakers or Puritans they were Separatists (Baptist Fundamentalists)
Everyone were alcoholics back then. In Europe you didn’t drink the water because it was polluted all over Europe, so people drink beer and wine only, even children. Most were from the netherlands and were claim jumpers, bail jumpers and other serfs. The first thing they did on plymout rock was make homemade alcohol, they didn’t know they could drink the water in America. They had dt’s and tried to keep the Mayflower from leaving. They begged for more alcohol, because the journey took 66 days, instead of 40, but there was a crew who needed their share of alcohol & left back to England.
Colleges were infiltrated.
Reading the comments, realizing that most people don’t understand/know history, but all are willing to offer their opinions.
Truth.... Modern man make joke of history.
I haven't read through the comments as when I read yours (which was about the fourth or fifth one down) I realize that there are people who have no insight about certain topics yet feel that their opinion on the matter is righteous and all others are ignorant, however I am very much interested in history and have read and viewed a fair amount and they are making the pilgrims look like they were fair and impartial and everyone had a vote but that is not the case, as with far too many groups only the ones that had money and position had any say in what went on, vote etc.
Pfffft...
Dont you know *feelings* has priority over facts?
@@ringo1692 You just committed to J.B. statement. He is talking about you.
@@captaincurd2681what was i wrong about or did i say something that offended you ?
I'm not speaking for the OP but I'm pretty sure that he wasn't talking about me when he posted as I have only posted twice on this channel and this was in response to his so ...
I love the statement from the older Native American at about 50 mins in. He says that what they are doing now is saying this is your land, you have to learn their language and follow their rules. That was not something imposed by the Pilgrims at all. Perhaps he should have better knowledge of his own history because this is what was done to tribes when they were conquered by other tribes. The Male tribal members were often killed, the women were taken and were used to increase the size of the conquering tribe. The facts are that the pilgrims were invited to stay by Massasoit. They entered into a treaty which lasted for over 50 years which was a mutual aid and mutual defense treaty to benefit both sides. The Wampanoag had suffered terribly from diseases ravaging their members in some areas with as high as 90% fatalities, this made them vulnerable to attacks from the Naraganset and other tribes. The other thing that gets me is that people have said that these diseases were intentionally introduced by the Europeans back then. This is ridiculous. With no microscopes and no understanding of how these diseases were formed or spread there is no way they could have known anything about what would have been fatal and what would not or even how they diseases were exactly transmitted. The fact that other encounters later did not go as well as this encounter with the Pilgrims and the Wampanoag does not mean you dismiss the importance of this encounter and the 50 years of peace and mutual defense that came from it.
50 years of peace but 400 years of pain for everyone not a pilgrim or from pilgrim ancestry figure that one out.
@@zacksmith2227 then maybe Masasoit shouldn't have entered into a peace treaty with them and he could have just wiped them out. Isn't he really to blame since he had the power to send them away, kill them or let them starve to death.
Yes!!!!! And until we ALL acknowledge the WHOLE truth nothing will get better and the hatred will continue to grow.
Finally someone understands the history. It's sad how many really do not understand the real history and just lump the Mayflower in with the Europeans before and after.
@@zacksmith2227 Unlike the centuries of pain and suffering that the natives inflicted upon each other? Read Percy's account of Jamestown and the new world. He records that the natives were perpetually at war with one another.
I learned I am a Mayflower descendant about a year ago. I can't imagine what it must have been like for them all on that voyage across the sea...
Very very very very harsh climates
I have several ancestors from Plymouth.
Not sanitary!
I am too. About six months ago. I am related to 4 them.
@@tampanativeson 😎 that’s cool.
William and Susanna (Jackson) White are my 8th great grandparents. Resolute, their 5 year old son at the time of the voyage and his wife Judith (Vassall) my 7th.
Resolved not Resolute.
I'm from Resolved's daughter, Anna
I’m a descendent of John Billington (the first colonial murderer-I know!) and also of Eaton, both were “Strangers.” It wasn’t just a few “Strangers.” They made up fully half the people on the Mayflower.. The trip across the ocean would not have been made without the Strangers, as they paid fares to take this trip. Also, the Mayflower itself was leased by the “Stranger”-oriented Adventure Company, also responsible for getting the Strangers to sign up. I really have a soft spot in my heart for the Strangers--who never get much credit for their role in getting the American experiment going. They are usually left out of any celebrations. So, yay Strangers! Glad you made it!
Evidently you never read William Bradfords eyewitness account. Read it and then comment.
Read this: JOHN BILLINGTON, THE PLYMOUTH MARTYR. By George Prince. I am a PROUD descendent of John Billington!
To the historian that said “they probably wouldn’t be palatable today” because they said that they would be great, and that the worlds eyes would be upon them that everyone would want to be like them. Well, they weren’t far off when they said it…. Sounds to me like you pronounced a blessing that came to pass. 😎🇺🇸
Do more research on who came over on the Mayflower, suggestion, dark cargo of the Mayflower. It’s on youtube. Many books have been written about who was on the Mayflower. I don’t know if libraries are still open where you can peruse the book titles. Google, has an algorithm and skews to what’s read the most.
Captain Myles Standish is my husband's 12th great grandfather. We are Canadians. Never knew until this year after researching ancestry did we realize we have a connection to the good old USA!
old? 😂
The Puratins are my favorite group in American history.
Where not the Puritans responsible for the Witch Trials?
@aprilgeorge5208
Go read them and find out.
I think the answer would suprise you.
The problem is, most people have the book "The Scarlett Letter" in mind when the word "Puratin "comes up. Keep in mind that is historical fiction novel.
25:50, the narrator says that John Smith founded a colony in Virginia (Jamestown.) Actually, It wasn't John, but the Virginia Company of London. In fact, men such as Newport, Gosnold, and Wingfield "outranked" (for lack of a better word,) Smith.
The Bible the 'Pilgrim Fathers' brought with them was not a product of the Frenchman Jean (John) Calvin.
The Holy Bible - Geneva Edition
1st Printing, 1st Edition in 1560
Given back to the people so all may understand
The Geneva Bible was first printed in Geneva, Switzerland, by refugees from England, fleeing the persecution of Protestants by Roman Catholic Queen “Bloody” Mary.
Many copies were smuggled back into England at great personal risk. In later years, when Protestant-friendly Queen Elizabeth took the throne, printing of the Geneva Bible moved back to England. The Geneva Bible was produced by John Calvin, John Knox, Myles Coverdale, John Foxe, and other Reformers. It is the version that William Shakespeare quotes from hundreds of times in his plays, and the first English Bible to offer plain roman-style type in some of its early printings.
The Geneva Bible was the first Bible taken to America, brought over on the
Mayflower… it is the Bible upon which early America and its government was founded (certainly not the King’s of England’s Bible!) The Geneva Bible was also the first English Bible to break the chapters of scripture into numbered verses, and it was the first true “Study Bible” offering extensive commentary notes in the margins. It was so accurate and popular, that a half-century later, when the King James Bible came out… it retained more than 90% of the exact wording of the Geneva Bible.
The Geneva Bible was the “Bible of the Protestant Reformation”, and the Bible of the Puritans and Pilgrims. It was the first Bible taken to America, brought over on the Mayflower. The Geneva Bible is the Bible upon which America was founded. You can imagine, most early American colonists, who were fleeing the religious oppression of the Anglican Church (Church of England), wanted nothing to do with the King James Bible of the Anglican Church!
Textually, the Geneva Bible offered a number of radical never-before-seen changes: It was the first Bible in English to add numbered verses to each chapter of scripture. Also, the Geneva was the first Bible to introduce easier-to-read “Roman Style Typeface” rather than the “Gothic Blackletter Style Typeface” which had been used exclusively in earlier Bibles. Another curious innovation; the Geneva was the first “Study Bible” with extensive commentary notes in the margins.
The Geneva Bible is the version quoted from hundreds of times by William Shakespeare in his plays. Also called the “Breeches Bible”, the Geneva Bible is the only Bible ever able to outsell and exceed the popularity of the King James Bible, as it did in the early 1600’s until its printing ceased in 1644. In fact, one of the greatest ironies of history, is that Protestants of all denominations today embrace the King James Version of the Bible (which reads 90% the same as the Geneva), even though the King James Version is not a Protestant Bible (it’s Anglican / Church of England). Most Protestants have never even heard of the Bible of their own heritage: the Geneva Bible. It was produced by John Calvin, John Knox, Myles Coverdale, John Foxe, & other English refugees in ever-neutral Geneva, Switzerland… fleeing the persecution of Roman Catholic Queen “Bloody” Mary in England. Mary would not tolerate the Protestant Geneva Bible, which proclaimed the Pope an “antichrist” in its commentary notes.
Bloody Mary was queen of Scots she killed protestants in Scotland Scotland didn't have Henry the 8th a different reformation
Bloody Mary was queen of Scots she killed protestants in Scotland Scotland didn't have Henry the 8th a different reformation
Tolle Lege Press has republished the GENEVA BIBLE 1599 edition and it is available for purchase now. PS. THE POPE IS STILL THE ANTICHRIST. THIS IS BIBLICAL TRUTH.
@@rosemerrynmcmillan1611 Yes, he's the disguised Luciferian-Babylonian Roman Emperor.
I have the Geneva Bible 1560 and 1599 at home.
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I heard one of the main reasons is that Europe was getting too materialistic..
Just as the world is now,
they wanted to spend their time focused on the Risen Christ and God's word in the Bible,
They didn't want their children focused on materialism, but on the Risen Savior, Jesus Christ also..
They left Holland after 12 years because they found it to liberal and they couldn't make a good profit in trade and weren't allowed to trade or ship to the Dutch colonies in Amerika. So they went to England and sailed straight on to Amerika where they settled near the Dutch. But refused any help because they were stubborn and found that the Dutch gave more about trade than god.
Actually had nothing to do with freedom or religion.
Those that came over on the Mayflower were not Puritans. They were Separatists. The Puritans arrived at Massachusetts Bay 7 years later. ... Today's Separatists would be Baptist Fundamentalists. What you think of them is what England including The Puritans thought of the Pilgrim Separatists.
In those days the word "corn" did not specifically mean only maize, but any grain.
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Interesting video, I wish the Native Americans would of got more screen time I would love to hear more from them what they have to say in regards.
Spot on!!
I think the native lady at the beginning said it all, nuff said!
Exactly thank you
Well that is one of the problems with cultures that have a history of oral tradition instead on writing stories down. The best example is the game of telephone. You start a message and say it from one to another around the room and often what you get from the last person who is told it varies greatly from the first person. As much as you try to be true to a story it will have this same potential of deviation or alteration. William Bradford's journal and few letters from other Pilgrims survive, unmodified, unedited and they give an account of life at Plymouth colony at that time. There may be some bias from the writers perspective but we know that what is written, what is described was written back then and has not been subject to changes, modifications, bad memory, a misunderstanding of what someone was told.
@Stevie Prairie
Doesn't the govt. money go to the tribal elders and they decide who gets it?
8:31 "They believe they serve a higher cause, and want to show England and the world their righteous way." "We are going to be a city upon a hill, they eyes of the world are upon us." They proved they were right. They were the original founding fathers of the United States.
Pedophiles, hypocrites and corrupt murderers. Such it were, such it is.
This is a good doc - accurate I think. Thank you.
It’s a little off. But all in all, it’s ok.
Loved this look where we are now
Rumor has it that Sasquatch was the first one 🦾
Fact.
very good work
My Great Great Grandfather was Rodger Williams! He discovered Rhoades Island. He landed in Massachusetts. He Started the Independent Baptist Church! 1629. Wrote 5 books on Christianity. Massachusetts was Catholic. He left and found Rhoades Island.
Doing the math, I think you need a few more greats. Unless all your grandma didn’t get pregnant until her 40’s. Good luck.
First of all, his name was Roger Williams, not Rodger. He's your relative and you don't even know his name? Secondly, it is Rhode Island. And he must have been at least five or six greats. Your great great GF was alive around the turn of the 20th century.
You left a few great grandfathers out. 13 million Americans are descended from the Pilgrims. The first chartered church in America was founded by Tacy Hubbard. Roger would have been disappointed in your spelling.
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If I might add, more than half of the puritans virtues where formed in the Netherlands.
They lived for 12 years in the first Republic in the world. Where they learned what freedom of speech, religion, practice and ownership means. They had to work hard to get their hands on documents from the Dutch settlements between the Delaware and Connecticut rivers. They found investors, bought a ship and renamed it speedwell. And they left Holland because it was to protestant and liberal for their taste, and they couldn't make a good profit there. They sailed to Britain to free more of their kin. Bought another ship and went the same route as the Dutch went.
They got to America and had several contacts with settlers from the Dutch city of New Amsterdam, later New York.
After the crops failed and they got in need of help the Dutch went there twice. Offering food and some cows. But this was rejected because of fear of debt or depending on the Dutch towns and their gouverner.
So they refused. It's said that they where afraid they couldn't Christan the Dutch but could reform the Indian culture.
After all the Indians helped them and soon there was a Dutch, Anglo, Indian war going on. Suprise suprise. To be fair it was the same time as the 2nd or 3rd Anglo Dutch war world wide so.. kinda logical they got dragged in as well.
Much later on the English colonies grew and during the 3rd Anglo Dutch war. The British conquers the nee Netherlands region and New Amsterdam became New York. Orange became Albany, fort Nassau, Harlem, Bronx and lots more kept their names. Fun fact.. before transferring all Dutch procession to the British the Dutch govener freed all slaves, not for humanitaire reasons but because they wouldn't be involved with the transfer. All woman with ownership got compensation and the Indian shop and market where 'kindly' asked to leave.
Although government and religion in the region was kept Dutch for almost a century. It lost its Dutch cultural bands. Luckily the background and bases of the USA are well founded on Dutch traditions. From the Dutch harvest festival as Thanksgiving or Sinterklaas as Santa Claus. Words like cookie, wagon, boss and many more. Presidents like Roosevelt or van Buren who only spoke Dutch. The fact that the declaration of independence was written up in Dutch and almost a exact copy of the Dutch onafhankelijkheidsverklaring.
No... These pelgrims where good is false advertisement and swindle in trade. They where not to be trusted and did not stand on the cradle of America as a country and if they did they stood behind the Dutch!
In the first republic in the world huh?
WHAT U BEEN SMOKING U DONT KNOW REAL HISTORY AT ALL
@@joshuateubanks4302the Roman republic might disagree
@@CaliforniaFarmGirl yeah, I be funnin.
Yo. You funny.
Many countries celebrate Thanksgiving it is the time when all crops are harvested.
Yes, Thaksgiving was a version of the European "Harvest Home" festival that celebrated a successful harvest.
A few ages before that the Dutch celebrated ‘oogstfeest’. Which is the same as thanksgiving. History is simple when you know who wrote the true story. 😂
You where late … it already took place centuries before the Mericans.
Ask yourselves this, what would the new world have been like if the pilgrims didn't land at Plymouth?
Not sure. But I am sick of EVERY wrong
that has been done to Native Americans being piled on the Mayflower. There were settlers before and after from other countries as well as Britain that had plenty of impact.
The Natives would have ate themselves alive. The Timucua, apache, Cherokee are ALL from integrated tribes!!!!! Get a grip! Stop the lies!!!!!!!!!
It would have continued to be a rich, thriving continent! The mass deaths that resulted from colonization actually changed the climate. Learn accurate history.
@@robynadamson2051 , I am a historian in St. Augustine, Florida, where the Timucua lived for over 4,000 years before Juan Ponce de Leon claimed La Florida for Spain as the first European to formally take "possession " of what is now the United States. You MUST be of English decent and feel as if you have to redeem your ignorant self for your ancestors stupid decisions! As for me, I shall learn from true history and not HIStory, whoever is writing it at that moment!!!!! Good day to you!
@@lisasumma2305 Even truth must be spoken through a mouth and thus we have his story.
The pilgrims did pay back the natives with supplies when they were able to. That old native woman in the video is wrong, she laughed when she knew she was lying to promote antiwhite sentiment
We are lucky to live in America today.
She is half black.
Not only that, but the pilgrims and early settlers kept every contract they had with the Indians, who welcomed them to North America. It wasn't until King Philip's War, when an Indian betrayed a pact with the white settlers, that they developed the idea that Indians were not trustworthy. The Indians were the ones who violated the sanctity of the friendship between the settlers and the Indians. I'm fed up with all the lies that are told just to make white people look back.
How is history promoting anti white sentiment? History is what it is so just accept it and move on.
@@katherinenyberg7891 you're right, history is what it is. However, what that woman said wasn't history it was modern bullsh*t.
I have several ancestors that came over on the Mayflower.
Several?!?
Meaning two at the absolute most, right?
@@Wegger1324 4
I have 8. Isn't family history and studying genealogy fascinating?!
Several of the only 102 that were on board? Very interesting
On the whole, this docu was okay -- but I did not like the negative sign-off -- it's like they felt they had to get one more kick in on these settlers. And let's not confuse the intent of Pilgrims with those that followed... Pilgirms basically wanted there own chunk of land (and not a ton of it as inferred somewhere in the mix)so that they could pray the way they wanted to pray and not live under British rule. This is not complicated. They were not 'greedy land grabbers' . They eventually got on well with their new neighbors and eventually it was about the symbiosis formed - the dependency whcih was MUTUAL. Sick of Pilgrims being villified in recent times...they were probably the most pure of heart by comparison of any other group.
All countries have good and bad in their histories and narratives shift from who is telling them and why. Yet we are witnessing so many coming from all lands just to step into the United States. Somethings don't get told and we are living it.
Yes - and let us keep in mind, for all of the faults of the USA, just look at all of those killing themselves to get into this country.
I'm in India now. A pilgrim father's descendant.
The birth of the United states
and the folks, whereto he was close.
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Without the Wampanoag Indians bailing the starving Pilgrims out with turkey's, pumpkin pies and cranberry sauce!!! Their would be no Thanksgiving Day!!!
Thank you, this was very good!
The temperary home was in the city of Leiden to be precise
I am a descendant of John Alden and Priscilla Mullins.
Many people at many times and in many places around the world had practice democracy and espoused equal rights.
Thomas Rogers is my ancestor
Mine too 🥰
Great documentary. Shame about the native indian commentators who simply made outragous statements they couldnt back up.
"English set sail from their temporary homes in Holland in 1620"....
What would have happened to America had they not done this.
I enjoyed this video and I don't know how it got in my recommended.
It behooves me because I've been thinking about the first settlers in the Americas before the Civil War.... how did Big Brother know what I was thinking🤔
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@@christophermuran9487
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as the voyage went onward.
The truth is that the "Pilgrim Fathers" were not the founders of the United States as is often said. That is an Anglocentric belief. The Spanish were already there a century earlier. They were in places like Florida or California. The first European language heard in what is now the United States was Spanish, just as the first Christian denomination to arrive was Catholic....
I'm a descendant of several Mayflower passengers.
SEVERAL?!
Really? How did that happen? Only two...four at the most. And that would be extraordinary.
New world how wen there was people and nations in the Americas
New World as opposed to the “Old World”, which was Europe.
Because "world" history is mostly written by Europeans...
New to Europeans ....that is the people that created everything around you
Look, they were my personal ancestors, but they were Puritans and Calvanists. Not liberal. The focus on personal predestined salvation made them willing to ignore some conflicts but to impose severe social sanctions on others.
My Grand father's Grandfather was English and his Grandmother was Cherokee
But to know how one treated the other I would for sure stand with my Cherokee Heritage the battle of the Chicamagu was my ancestors Dragging Canoe
My Mayflower ancestor was a servant, not a separatist.
Like turning a blind eye on enslaving and mistreating 7 million Africans or using criminal behaviour to take land from the indigenous population. In terms of salvation knowing what we do with history i wonder whether those ancestors are sitting with God in righteousness or are in that other place reserved for the the wicked and the damned?
@@zacksmith2227 Where do you think those "natives" came from ? Did they fall from the sky onto a certain plot of land reserved especially for them ?
@@zacksmith2227 Who sold the 7,000,000 Africans? Their own people. Who eradicated slavery in the modern world? England and America. Be careful when you speak with a forked tongue because the story is much, much deeper than you let on.
Great documentary. Except for a half black woman with a chip on her shoulder attempting pass herself off as a Indian. If this company paid her, they should ask for a refund! Same goes for her brother. You know the other Indian.
You know her ethnicity and lineage on a personal level?
Wow! How long have y’all known each other?
Here because of American Literature
John Wayne welcomed them at Plymouth Rock "Howdy pilgrim".
lol
The other early colonists, the Protestant extremists known lovingly in American history as Puritans, did not offer Christian kindness to the natives of Massachusetts for long after the mythical “first thanksgiving.” As in many lands before and since, disease scourged the native populations, which the loving Christians considered a “wonderful plague”: in 1634 John Winthrop could write that the Indians “are neere all dead of the small Poxe, so as the Lord hathe cleared our title to what we possess.”28 Unsatisfied with the reduction of the indigenous population, wars against the Pequots in 1637 and the Wampanoags in 1675 and 1676 freed up more land for Christian use.
People in the 1600s didn't know what germs were. They is no way they could have intentionally spread small pox. They gave the Native Americans blankets and clothes. How would they have known they were infected with small pox? Good grief!
"We compare it to travelling to another planet" - maybe in StarTrek it is like that.
Ty. Going to watch Star Trek now
Welcome the history of mankind
Well, the history of the US is quite short really.
Vikings beat them by about 800 years.
They didn’t establish a colony or anything though
@@Jim87_36 shame, as the American natives may of not been murdered, and they may of kept the "founders" in their place.
@@StephenButlerOne The ultimate clash between a stone age people and newcomer modernity is inevitable. When the first humanoids arrived(probably via the Ice Age land bridge across the Bering sea, they eventually killed of the Mammoth, dire wolf, giant sloth and the rest.
In turn their decedents, split into tribes, waged war in and slaughtered each other.
The Wampanoag were great friends to the people of the new colony.
They coexisted for decades. But new generations saw the land of great opportunity for building their lives and society.
I, for one, cherish the Thanksgiving tradition, even tho I’m not keen on eating eel.
It is our people’s tradition. The tribes are welcome to join us in celebration or not.
Our people have had to overcome our own subjugations and depredations. We move past and built the society that has evolved to provide the most freedom and prosperity of any before.
The Indian tribes, Africans, Chinese, and the rest could not achieve this, but may join us and integrate into our culture and accept its terms.
Or separate and hang onto their old culture and live lives of resentment and envy.
@@StephenButlerOne They have found evidence that strongly suggests that the Vikings enslaved Natives and even took many of them with them back to Greenland and Iceland. So nice try.
@@karenlasslett5731 up tight much....
The most cases boy with Bradford have not gotten enough respect from history of the history teaching attended leaving now truly he was a man of faith hey actual beginning of the forefathers shaping this nation by the word of God
The fellow, who I suspect is Native American, that says the first Thanksgiving was a lie, is lying. He says it was not a sanctified celebration. It had not the same meaning it did for the Christians but they did enter into a celebration is a civil unity and I am sure were thankful that they were able to have a lasting peace and relationship. Has much been made of this by our once Christian nation, yes, and before God it should be for the Providential hand that has blessed this nation that all Native American have greatly benefited by. The Native Americans did have to risk life and limb to be in America and receive the many blessings, as have hundreds of millions had to endure to come here. Much has been made of complaint by the Native Americans, with a few exceptions, to their detriment and dishonor to God and country. If left to themselves it's likely they would still be wondering the woods and plains and believing the height of success was to obtain a scalp of the neighboring tribes. This film did a reasonable job of giving an accurate reenactment but when they give time to this lie they discredited the whole film, shame on you, repent and believe in the only Savior, which is who and why the Pilgrims gave us the beginnings of this Nation. Acts 4:12
*"Mayflower" didn't bring the best of the best of their populations back then, pushing away the real land owners and send them to concentration reserves against their will, and even so when pilgrims were doomed in winter were saved by the sympathy and good will of the First Nation People and in return they paid them back with ungratefulness and greediness until today*
Still today.
@@atomicall I agree Native culture wins each time
@@janethompson9390, no, not really. Wrongs were committed at the time, but all involved are long dead at this point and a new country is well established. So, no, it's not still going on today. How many centuries back would you apply your "logic"? The whole world would need a lot of adjustment if every country has to give back any land that was once conquered by their ancestors.
Yup
the first few caravans of pilgrims were killed and eaten by the natives, no wonder we were a lot less friendly when more showed up
“Wouldn’t be very palatable to us today” This is exactly how Mormons are in Utah. They view themselves as a city upon a hill and have adopted that same religious confidence and cockiness.
I didn't care for that guys take = alot of inference based on his imagination. This is why historians? need to stick to facts versus trying to come up with a clever take...esp in these times when they want to be popular with the kiddies so they stir up their emotions to get them involved.
The Puritans were unhappy people??? Really? Could it have something to do with being burned at the stake?
The Puritans were actually very full of joy. If you're interested, read them in their own written works instead of a secular documentary. This was an interesting video but not fully accurate.
Jesus is God ✝️ they knew Muhammad's Allah was bad but the REAL God Jesus Christ is good ❤
..so wait..who found America..John Smith..William Bradford..or Christopher Columbus??
None of them. It was already "found" by the people who had lived there for thousands of yours.
NOT Columbus, it was Juan Ponce de Leon, in 1513! Contrary to your WRONG HIGH SCHOOL TEXT BOOKS, Columbus NEVER stepped foot on the continental United States!!!! AGAIN, YOUR WELCOME! DO YOUR RESEARCH, STOP RELYING ON DUMBASSES!
None of t
Them keep reading, you'll figure it out, maybe!
Read EVERYTHING, try to piece together the truth, DON'T STOP, they have lied to us from the beginning but it is up to us to try and find the pieces of TRUTH, It's not always HISTORY, it is HIS story, whoever is writing it at that moment!!!! # FountainofYouth is a lie!!!!!!!!!!
@8:40 , that’s exactly what happened.
9:10 Yes, and that's why they are still not palatable....
Here we go let's see what kind lies have been added
were you there? Do you have a first hand account of what happened?
@24:00 shes complaining about approx $3.15 of dried out corn. and acting like she was fkn robbed last week
I am a direct line ancestor to John Alden of the Mayflower. Please do research on your own to find the truth. Many have been taught wrongly about them.
Did they bring disease oh that's nasty
Me too.
This kinda sucked. It wasn’t a battle with the indigenous peoples. It was a massacre. They also didn’t have pumpkins. Sugar coated history is just mythical tales.
The Indians did love the first Thanksgiving. I know from my Indian heritage. I the 15th cousin of Elizabeth Warren.
Lololol
God led the hebrews through all kinds of treachery and gave them a homeland. He did the same for european christians. Gotta problem with that lol take it up with him!
@An A Count Palestinians arent the caananites, jews arent the hebrews of old and we did to the indians what they tried to do to us and what they did to each other before we landed. God doesnt hate anyone. If you chose not to walk with him then thats your free will choice. You cant blame your problems on someone you have nothing to do with right?
Those that died may have had as much mental strength but the body has the last word so dont put them down
They didn’t go to find freedom. They went to get away from the religious freedoms being introduced in England.
They shoulda paid for the corn and maybe those natives lives woulda been different !?
Or was it the lack of religious freedom.
Whelp as long as all parties reach the same conclusion lol
So many negative comments here. You win. I don't even want to see the video now. Next!
@Salvador Vizcarra I don't need your instructions. Go away.
@Salvador Vizcarra Look it up: The US killed about 20-30 million people after 1945
Columbus was an agent of the Vatican and he didn't discover the Americas but he came to claim it for the Vatican.
Most of the America's got colonized by Catholic countries Spain and Portugal.
The problem for the Vatican was that their enemies, the Protestants, also came to the 'New World'.
But over time the Vatican managed to control the Protestants too and when the Pope visited the US in 2015 under their puppet 'Obama' the work was done.
Currently the Catholic pawn of the Vatican (Biden) is president, controlled by 'Obama', that other Vatican controlled puppet.
What is the Vatican?
That's the disguised Luciferian-Babylonian Roman Empire and the organization that is behind the current great reset disguised as a fake pandemic. leading to the implementation of the Mark of the Beast, the final 'vaccine' disguised as a bandaid and which is the quantum dot tattoo containing Luciferase.
Believe the Gospel, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 and be saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit and rapture ready.
I like the lobster for Thanksgiving
The Pilgrims and the Puritans were not the same. Similar, but not interchangeable groups.
They probably threw her over board
It's annoying to the nth that they say some folks see this as a day of mourning..but don't explain why. Ask a Narragansett. Ugh.. And yall wonder why we can't just get over it. 🙄
Me fascina la discusión en torno a una especie invasora la cual, en oleadas sucesivas, trata de argumentar la idea en torno a que ellos llegaron antes y por tanto el pastel les pertenece. Ordenad vuestras prioridades. Todos sois humanos y vuestras prioridades tienen la misma importancia e interés. "Indígenas o invasores". Cero.
That Indian in the blue shirt is mad. Sorry, Indians but at least you are here to complain. If you believe that it could not have been worse then you're wrong. It could have been better too. I am Irish, French and Cherokee. This land is a melting pot of the whole world. God bless us.
My mom english cherokee
My dad irish cherokee
I am more cherokee than either of the other two I say all time I do not hold grudge for the past the world isnt as big as it used to be and we all have to live together and we should learn to love our neighbor no matter what race they are
[IVE GOT MY. 3RD GREAT GRANDPARENTS PHOTOS ON. MY. LIVING. RM WALL & I GOT. THE. OLD FAMILY BIBLE WHICH IS DATED. BACK 1500s] 🏴/🇺🇸
. OH. REALLY.?.
durin the crossin a child WAS born.
past tense.
[MY, 3RD GREAT GRANDFATHER WILLIAM C KENT WHICH WAS A ARESTOCRAT CAME FROM 🏴 ENGLAND ON THE MAYFLOWER TO. THE NEW WORLD VIRGINIA] 🏴/🇺🇸
Being an "arestocrat", I wonder if his spelling and grammar were better than yours?
Of course we understood the thanking of a creator. We always have. That was a dumb statement.
45:22
Converting, why would they do the same thing that was trying to be done to them to the natives, they were running from being forcefully converted, they know how it feels but yet that's the first thing they try doing to the natives
#MayflowerLivesMatter #PilgrimsLivesMatter There is an old Indian proverb: When eagle come, serpent go by by
You are phase 1 of WHATEVER apocalypse shall come and I am sorry!!!!
Liberal is supposed to be the key to tolerance, right !?
It's not anymore. Liberals are the new Puritans, and they are very intolerant of anyone who doesn't agree with them.
Please stop all of the feeling sorry for me because I'm a conservative crying crap 💩
You do know that Florida was well established, 55 years before these pilgrims landed at their preasous rock? Enjoy!!!!
You do know Florida didn't join the united States until the mid 1800s right??
what's a preasous rock?
Sorry, spell check, " my precious "!!! LOL
@@robpeterson8006 you should know that Florida was a SPANISH CLAIMED TERRITORY BY 1513!!!! No? Well look it up!!!! We were here in 1513, NOT SOME STUPID 1619 PROJECT BULLSHIT! Your welcome!!! FORT MOSE!!!!!
@@wfellow1 my precious! Sorry, Google spell check seems to be liberal with their check!!!! I just get so excited proving someone WRONG!!!! 1513, Spanish rule was already established, 1565 St. Augustine was the most diverse settlement established in the NEW WORLD, but y'all keep pretending some stupid 1619 bs!!!!!
Botany on Mayflower
But none on Jamestown Weed
Hmm .. . .. .
Pilgrim Fathers not telling
The Pilgrims weren't Puritans. They were separatists. The people that settled in Boston were Puritans.
I’m a descendant❣️👊🏻
You and 35 million others. Congratulations.
@@Wegger1324 Yeah, but I come bearing receipts ‼️
@@MegaVthompson well that changes everything. I sincerely apologize😣
They add in comments from native Americans about lies but they don't explain those lies and if it was so bad for the Indians why did they continue to help the settlers survive.
History the opinions of the authors
Didn't the pilgrims consist mostly of puritans? What I'm saying I heard they left Europe to start a New life with (No Sin) that was the big deal which is what brought us the Salem Witch Trials in the First place(Not Many Died Any ways) but still a big deal. In which this tell us their values in Life. Strict, Moral, and down to Earth People. Not Modern idealists like we wish to think.
The Pilgrims founded Plymouth Colony and were Separatists not Puritans. The Puritans founded nearby Massachusetts Bay Colony 7 years later. The two Colonies were later joined together to form the Colony of Massachusetts. This often causes some confusion.
@@thomsbooth4906 Ok.
Its my understanding that every person was required to be participating in faith related activities and being a member of the church was something only the most affluent people could achieve but also those positions were specifically made to be filled by those people. 60 years after this the witch scare evinces this - saying that people who were not members of the church were tolerated because of religious freedom is wrong. Everyone was expected to be Christian, including enslaved people, and people were punished for not participating in faith based activities often enough even when their reasons were not based on religious objection (being fined for not going to church on a Sunday for example - this fine was not merely applied to "church members" but to everyone.). I'm a Christian learning more about this period of history so please don't misunderstand my intention for pointing this out, I don't want to tear anyone or anything down, just want to make sure that we are understanding history as correctly as we can.
8/17/22 - I am also a descendant, a member of the Mayflower Society. I am deeply saddened and shocked at the treatment of people back in those cruel times. The torture tools of Europe unimaginable considering they were civilized and religious. All lovers of humanity know the truth: the narcissists and psychopaths conquered us and mother earth - we have been systematically and strategically raped by a few animals - fear and inhumane control has been utilized with some tourniquet fashioned relief for their sadistic pleasure. What is the end game of this movement?
The world was a different place, and we have the benefit of vastly superior knowledge and hindsight.
Every group, every country participated in extremely inhumane activities and no group can be singled out. Native Americans were no different.
Judging people from an entirely different world with our modern knowledge and attitudes doesn't really get anything done. We weren't there, and we will never understand the world they came from, and we should leave it at that.
@@MLGPRO-dx8fg found the racist
the natives in this are a hoot. hanging onto their "side" of the story and never moving on. Everything did not play out fairly, but hanging onto all that old hatred has done what for your people? nothing.
Natives, im tired of leftist whining about natives, girl everything you love about western civilization like freedom liberalism etc... would not be posible without european colonization wherever you like it or not i dont care about natives human history is just one big fight for the survival of the strongest it always Been like that, in all civilizations, new and old, so when annoying leftist say things like "natives were peaceful tribal people until those evil white people came along" i want to laught, its history stop complaining about standards of people in the past from a 21st century point of views its weird and it doest make any sense
@@francoisdaureville323 smh..smh
No. The Puritans were not relativists!!!
It is now March. So this videograph was made in March.
WHAT is now March? What is "IT"? Understandin the speaker is not good enough. He must include every word.
I think he meant "In our imagination, NOW is now March." Rather redundant, wouldn't U say?
How about "In our imagination, now is March" or "In our imagination, March is now."
Because March was, outside of imagination, THEN, not now.
The moment the white men first observed an ear of corn 🌽 😂 I bet it went down just like that too.
Now that shit is in everything 🤯