I personally know a few handloaders who load 162 gr bullets for the 270 wsm with the standard twist rate barrel, they perform extremely well. I use 140gr in mine and it will easily take an Elk out past 300 yards
Oh it did! Lots of people love the .270 and they know the .270 WSM is more efficient! The 6.8 Western is the new and updated .270 WSM, that's from Winchester! I see the 6.8 Western catching fire lately after almost a year of people saying why, then they see the numbers and see its a short action round doing magnum numbers right behind a 7mm mag!
@@justinscott9213haha really ? That’s funny . One needs a 27.5 inch barrel to be optimized . The other needs a 24 . One has a long action and one is short . Shorter rifle , lighter , no belt With the same performance? Yeah …it’s lots better
If I were to buy my first rifle,it probably would be the 6.8western. But I already own a 270wsm and run 150gr through it which is more than enough reach & velocity inside 500 yds.which is probably +200 yds. than I need anyways.In all seriousness I would not be concerned about taking any animal in North America with the 270wsm inside 500yds.,but that's just me.
I have been pushing 140 gr Bergers out of the case in my 270 WSM to 2.901and an Australian-made monolith 130 gr outer edge to 3.02. The bullets are seated in the case neck only and not in the powder column. The Tikka T3 action and barrel have heaps of head space to be able to do this and allow for less free bore. I am very happy with the results. I am using 68grs of H4831 SC it is just showing pressure signs. Next is changing the barrel with a 1;8 twist rate to allow 150 & 170 gr Bergers for a superb long-range tack driver with more hitting power/flatter trajectory than the creed and western. Yes, it requires a long action but I never saw any big benefits with a short action, more marketing than anything else. The Red Deer here in Queensland Australia has dropped instantly.
i prefer my 6.8 western. i have successfully taken whitetail deer with it at close range as well as extended range and it performed well. if i weren't going to shoot past 500 yards though, i find my standard 270 winchester very effective with low recoil and it is more cost effective to shoot. enjoyed the video. thanks for the information.
Cost of ammo is what led me down the road to reloading. Even an inexpensive single stage press can get a guy making good use of his spent brass and reaping the benefits of match ammo tailored to his rifle with a chosen bullet of preference
Awesome content. Really appreciate your videos and podcasts. I have listened to most of you episodes on Spotify. I would really appreciate some more content on the 300 wsm especially a comparison video between the 300 wsm and the 6.8 western!
Seems like 6.8 Western is what the 270 WSM should have been. But there may be a potential safety issue between the 270 WSM and the Western. It could be a bad deal if someone mistakenly loaded Western ammo in a 270 WSM rifle.
Great video! I just got a 6.8 Western X-Bolt Pro Macmillan from Browning this spring. I use hand loads and I am getting half MOA at 600 yards with the 175 gr Sierra TGK. I killed a bear in Montana last month with one shot at 385 yards. Dropped him in his tracks. I am really looking forward to using it on deer and elk this fall. I would really like to shoot the 170 gr Berger EOLs.
Under 300 6.5 cm can take any animal in NA. Handload ABLR 150 grain, Barnes LRX 127 grain , Noslar Partation 130 grain. And even Barnes TTSX 120 grain. Any of these 4 will take down moose within 300 yard, good shot placement . Less recoil less powder. Good shot placement will even work upto 500 yard if needed but I always prefer under 300 yard shot.
Great Review! I have three rifles that started life as factory guns , But you know only accurate rifles .5 MOA or better are interesting!! All accurized by GA Precision. My 7 mm WSM started life as a 300 WSM and I had two so had one rechambered by GA Precision.. I recently went hunting in WYO for Mule deer and Antelope and brought my WIN M 70. CRF 7 mm WSM Fed Premium 160 gr Trophy Bonded tip.. 325yds mule deer/ 200 yd Antelope. ONE SHOT EACH/ NOT ONE STEP!! If it Ain't broke don't fix it!! But it is now very hard to get ammo or brass for 7 WSM ?? Also 270 and 300 wsm have never failed me on 400 yd elk and 500 yd Antelope. Anyway Shot placement is what counts !!
I wanted to get a 270 win but decided to get the 6.8 Western so I can shoot 175 grain factory ammo. Not really much to say. It kills anything I point my rifle at and can shoot under .5 five shot groups at 100 even on a bad day. If I could do it over again would I go with 6.8? I would say 6.8 western or bump up to 300 win mag. Either will do
I am looking to build a 270 WSM, but with the faster twist rate of the 6.8 I want to be able to shoot accurately the longer higher BC bullets. I wish I could find what I am looking for off the shelf, but I don't think I will be able to.
I built a custom 270wsm, had the reemer made with a Berger 170 elite hunter seated into the case. Bartlien Barrel 1-8 twist, Bartlien built the rifle for me. With RL-26 pushing the 170g Berger at 3200 fps
Because I do videos on what people want to hear about. In this case, lots people were interested in seeing how the new (at the time) 6.8 Western compared to the similar 270 WSM as well as the extremely popular 6.5 Creedmoor.
Haven’t seen any WSM ammo in two years. I only have 40 rounds left for mine. I’ll use it for hunting only…..325WSM I like it but it is a dust gathering rifle now. What a waste now.
If you look at some of the manufacturers like Bergara, they're not even making rifles in 270 Winchester now unless its in a few of their base ones, it just doesn't sell like the 28 nosler or their 6.5 prc, creedmoor rifles do to justify it. Like the new 6.8 western is nearly identical to the 270 wsm just with a different shoulder for longer higher bc bullets. Market is really starting to shift but I never thought I'd see manufacturers no longer make a 270 rifle
@@dbeardsley0 yeah but that Bergara hardly Ruger or Savage haha … 270 Winchester will still have more ammo sales than 6.8 Western for years to come . There or millions of 270 Winchesters already in the hands of hunters. The WSM cartridges never had the popularity of the full length versions, it’s actually very similar today to the 6.5cm 6cm 6.8w and I’m sure the 7cm is coming soon haha there’s new bullets developed every so often to create rifle sales and that’s all this is some will stay around some will be like the wsm are today …
.270 weatherby, but then again you get into some crazy rounds like 6.5 Nosler and get into a major pissin contest with some big casings and small rounds. I have been seeing LOTS of 6.8 Western rounds all over and that matters! They need to make a .308 magnum and make it a tad longer and fatter....I dont know guess that would be a 30.06 lol Im looking for a good deer gun and to me Im looking at the 6.5 PRC, 6.8 Western, and .270 WSM which I am leaning towards!
270 wsm is a great deer cartridge. It's more than you need really, but it's not too much. In my mind, 7mm-08, 280 ai, or 270 win is about perfect for whitetails. Having said all that, I'll be carrying my new Tikka 270 wsm opening day lol.
I want 6.8 western to succeed but i think it will e a flash in the pan due to ammo and guns offering that chanbering. It should be more represented and i dont get why it is not
People missed the boat on the 7mm wsm and how great it is. Way to snooze on that 20 yrs ago guys. Compare the 270wsm and the 6.8 western to the unpopular 7mm wsm I dare u then u can see what I’ve know for years. It’s superior or comparably even in every category
He really talking about recoil on these LOL stop it now! I think the best should be energy on target up to 500 yards strictly talking hunting....paper popping it all doesn't matter its in optics and shooter in how much a guy shoots. Most guys looking in these rounds are looking for a deer rifle up to 500 yards ethically shooting, that's just what I am looking for and at....I have a Christensen MPR in .300 win mag and its my baby for elk, bear or if I am going long range for deer where I am shooting over 500 yard shots but I am here for a deer gun shots ranging from 250-500. I loved my .270 growing up it was my first rifle when I was 12 out here in the West. I did end up shooting a massive bear 3 times behind the shoulder dropped him each shot about 120 yards he got up tore up the ground mad, so hit him again he got up tore up the ground again, popped him again all 3 shots behind the shoulder and finally he ran hard and fast after the 3rd one and that boar ran 400-500 yards to his stump hole, it was a VERY VERY big beat and it took most the day tracing him, he leaned against a tree to stop the blood, he also rolled in a creek he was mad growling and we could hear him and thats what made us not go after him right away! A buddy was with me and witnessed the whole thing and couldn't belive it! We go 2 more guys and guns and we did track him where he did end up bleeding out in the chest cavity, he was a 620 pound all muscle pit bull of a bear!!!! State record boar and his rug takes up the biggest of walls, I have 25 foot ceilings and the wall makes my elk mounts dont make the wall look small, when that bear rug went up it made my wall look small LOL just a beautiful bear and I was deer hunting didnt expect to see him so I use a .300 when Im bear hunting. Out West these animals are just big and tough. But I plan on getting just a deer gun.....guess I could skip all that BS and just go 7mm but then again Im in a belted magnum and my .300 would work. I just want a fun .270 / 6.5- 6.8 caliber for just the deer, getting it in a Christensen, or maybe a Fierce....But I am stuck on my dang Christensen's even know Fierce split off from Christensen.....I came into this leaning towards the .270 WSM and at the end of this I am still leaning towards the .270 WSM!!! If I am in Grizzley country no way am I ever going to have anything less then a 7mm!!! My .300 win mag MPR is my baby however if Im going to Alaska I may just get a .338 WM or a .338 Lepua, or a .338 Ultra Mag!!! In Alaska .338 are the magic numbers in my opinion! Id rather have more gun then not enough lol
6.5 creedmore is a joke. If you like chasing deer forever go buy it. .277 caliber ammo is hands down the best whitetail caliber ever made. The 270 is awesome. The 270wsm is a 270 magnum. The 6.8 western is the ultimate 270 magnum. Pure fact
What are you talking about? Winchester has released 3 brand new loadings for the 6.8 Western in the past year: the 162gr Copper Impact, the 170gr Ballistic Silvertip, and the 170gr Power Point.
I personally know a few handloaders who load 162 gr bullets for the 270 wsm with the standard twist rate barrel, they perform extremely well. I use 140gr in mine and it will easily take an Elk out past 300 yards
The .270 WSM really should have caught on. It's still a monster with the 150 grain bullets.
Oh it did! Lots of people love the .270 and they know the .270 WSM is more efficient! The 6.8 Western is the new and updated .270 WSM, that's from Winchester! I see the 6.8 Western catching fire lately after almost a year of people saying why, then they see the numbers and see its a short action round doing magnum numbers right behind a 7mm mag!
270wsm did catch on the cartridge that’s superior that should of caught on is the 7mm wsm. 7mm wsm is my go to caliber
@@nickb8618 not enough difference in 7 and 7wsm to matter
@@justinscott9213haha really ? That’s funny . One needs a 27.5 inch barrel to be optimized . The other needs a 24 . One has a long action and one is short . Shorter rifle , lighter , no belt
With the same performance? Yeah …it’s lots better
If I were to buy my first rifle,it probably would be the 6.8western. But I already own a 270wsm and run 150gr through it which is more than enough reach & velocity inside 500 yds.which is probably +200 yds. than I need anyways.In all seriousness I would not be concerned about taking any animal in North America with the 270wsm inside 500yds.,but that's just me.
I would have preferred the 6.5 prc in this comparison instead of the creedmore
Already did the 6.5 PRC vs 6.8 Western comparison here: ua-cam.com/video/x32rilXAH4E/v-deo.html
270wsm is a beast, really need to use very good bullets!! Full copper or Accubond’s!!
It would appear that 270wsm is a mightier foe than 6.5prc, although it is an excellent round
Agreed
@@dustinraymond9403 100% boss!!!!
Love my 270wsm and my creedmoor, both have a place in my hunting application
.270 WSM is a beast!!!!
I have been pushing 140 gr Bergers out of the case in my 270 WSM to 2.901and an Australian-made monolith 130 gr outer edge to 3.02. The bullets are seated in the case neck only and not in the powder column. The Tikka T3 action and barrel have heaps of head space to be able to do this and allow for less free bore. I am very happy with the results. I am using 68grs of H4831 SC it is just showing pressure signs. Next is changing the barrel with a 1;8 twist rate to allow 150 & 170 gr Bergers for a superb long-range tack driver with more hitting power/flatter trajectory than the creed and western. Yes, it requires a long action but I never saw any big benefits with a short action, more marketing than anything else. The Red Deer here in Queensland Australia has dropped instantly.
i prefer my 6.8 western. i have successfully taken whitetail deer with it at close range as well as extended range and it performed well. if i weren't going to shoot past 500 yards though, i find my standard 270 winchester very effective with low recoil and it is more cost effective to shoot. enjoyed the video. thanks for the information.
a long action fast twist 270 wsm is a beast
Even though I can’t afford to shoot most of these calibers, I find these videos very entertaining and informative. Awesome work!
Cost of ammo is what led me down the road to reloading. Even an inexpensive single stage press can get a guy making good use of his spent brass and reaping the benefits of match ammo tailored to his rifle with a chosen bullet of preference
I'm definetely considering the the 6.8 Western in the browning X-bolt, great video !!!
Good choice!
Bad choice the 6.8 is dying it wasn't even talked about at the last big show pick one that's been around for at least 15 years or more..
Awesome content. Really appreciate your videos and podcasts. I have listened to most of you episodes on Spotify. I would really appreciate some more content on the 300 wsm especially a comparison video between the 300 wsm and the 6.8 western!
Great suggestion!
The question I have is whether we’ll get a 30 caliber short fattie with looong bullets, a la 6.8 western/6.5 prc/7 prc type of round.
Seems like 6.8 Western is what the 270 WSM should have been. But there may be a potential safety issue between the 270 WSM and the Western. It could be a bad deal if someone mistakenly loaded Western ammo in a 270 WSM rifle.
Great ammo breakdown as always. You should break down rifles too.
Great video! I just got a 6.8 Western X-Bolt Pro Macmillan from Browning this spring. I use hand loads and I am getting half MOA at 600 yards with the 175 gr Sierra TGK. I killed a bear in Montana last month with one shot at 385 yards. Dropped him in his tracks. I am really looking forward to using it on deer and elk this fall. I would really like to shoot the 170 gr Berger EOLs.
I'll take the. 270wsm all day long
Under 300 6.5 cm can take any animal in NA. Handload ABLR 150 grain, Barnes LRX 127 grain , Noslar Partation 130 grain. And even Barnes TTSX 120 grain.
Any of these 4 will take down moose within 300 yard, good shot placement .
Less recoil less powder. Good shot placement will even work upto 500 yard if needed but I always prefer under 300 yard shot.
Great Review! I have three rifles that started life as factory guns , But you know only accurate rifles .5 MOA or better are interesting!! All accurized by GA Precision.
My 7 mm WSM started life as a 300 WSM and I had two so had one rechambered by GA Precision.. I recently went hunting in WYO for Mule deer and Antelope and brought my
WIN M 70. CRF 7 mm WSM Fed Premium 160 gr Trophy Bonded tip.. 325yds mule deer/ 200 yd Antelope. ONE SHOT EACH/ NOT ONE STEP!!
If it Ain't broke don't fix it!!
But it is now very hard to get ammo or brass for 7 WSM ?? Also 270 and 300 wsm have never failed me on 400 yd elk and 500 yd Antelope.
Anyway Shot placement is what counts !!
Just put a 1in 8 twist on my 270wsm it’s better than all of them
Likely your best video yet.
Just found 6.8 Western on shelf today, up here in Michigan, and they want $70 a box 😳😳😳
I wanted to get a 270 win but decided to get the 6.8 Western so I can shoot 175 grain factory ammo. Not really much to say. It kills anything I point my rifle at and can shoot under .5 five shot groups at 100 even on a bad day. If I could do it over again would I go with 6.8? I would say 6.8 western or bump up to 300 win mag. Either will do
I own a 6.5 creedmore and love it,I also own a 270 wsm but haven't even shot it yet so the jury is still out on it
Creedmoor doesnt really stack up against these two, ive been pondering a 270wsm ar10....
I would buy a 270wsm ar 10 270wsm my dad's favorite short mag God rest his soul🎉
Great information thank you
Glad it was helpful!
i only own the 65cm of the 3. it's perfect for white tail and ammo is readily available.
Curios to know how 280 AI compares to 6.8 Western in equal length barrels beyond 500 meters.
I am looking to build a 270 WSM, but with the faster twist rate of the 6.8 I want to be able to shoot accurately the longer higher BC bullets. I wish I could find what I am looking for off the shelf, but I don't think I will be able to.
I built a custom 270wsm, had the reemer made with a Berger 170 elite hunter seated into the case.
Bartlien Barrel 1-8 twist, Bartlien built the rifle for me. With RL-26 pushing the 170g Berger at 3200 fps
also 6.8 west compared to 280 AI would be an interesting comparison
Long Range Muley and elk I like the 7mm prc 165
Why are you comparing a 6.5 Creedmoor to two larger caliber & larger bolt face cartridges?
A 6.5 PRC or a 7 PRC would make a much better comparison
Because I do videos on what people want to hear about. In this case, lots people were interested in seeing how the new (at the time) 6.8 Western compared to the similar 270 WSM as well as the extremely popular 6.5 Creedmoor.
Hands down the Golden Ticket is a 7mm PRC...yeah, it's that good..!!
Haven’t seen any WSM ammo in two years. I only have 40 rounds left for mine. I’ll use it for hunting only…..325WSM I like it but it is a dust gathering rifle now. What a waste now.
Reloading?
If you look at some of the manufacturers like Bergara, they're not even making rifles in 270 Winchester now unless its in a few of their base ones, it just doesn't sell like the 28 nosler or their 6.5 prc, creedmoor rifles do to justify it. Like the new 6.8 western is nearly identical to the 270 wsm just with a different shoulder for longer higher bc bullets. Market is really starting to shift but I never thought I'd see manufacturers no longer make a 270 rifle
@@dbeardsley0 yeah but that Bergara hardly Ruger or Savage haha …
270 Winchester will still have more ammo sales than 6.8
Western for years to come .
There or millions of 270 Winchesters already in the hands of hunters.
The WSM cartridges never had the popularity of the full length versions, it’s actually very similar today to the 6.5cm 6cm 6.8w and I’m sure the 7cm is coming soon haha there’s new bullets developed every so often to create rifle sales and that’s all this is some will stay around some will be like the wsm are today …
.270 weatherby, but then again you get into some crazy rounds like 6.5 Nosler and get into a major pissin contest with some big casings and small rounds. I have been seeing LOTS of 6.8 Western rounds all over and that matters! They need to make a .308 magnum and make it a tad longer and fatter....I dont know guess that would be a 30.06 lol Im looking for a good deer gun and to me Im looking at the 6.5 PRC, 6.8 Western, and .270 WSM which I am leaning towards!
that's nothing but a 300 wsm
270 wsm is a great deer cartridge. It's more than you need really, but it's not too much. In my mind, 7mm-08, 280 ai, or 270 win is about perfect for whitetails. Having said all that, I'll be carrying my new Tikka 270 wsm opening day lol.
I want 6.8 western to succeed but i think it will e a flash in the pan due to ammo and guns offering that chanbering. It should be more represented and i dont get why it is not
People missed the boat on the 7mm wsm and how great it is. Way to snooze on that 20 yrs ago guys. Compare the 270wsm and the 6.8 western to the unpopular 7mm wsm I dare u then u can see what I’ve know for years. It’s superior or comparably even in every category
Is there anything else out there that can drive a 150gr 270 pill @3200fps at the muzzle?
27 Nosler (28 Nosler can do the same with a 150gr .284 pill), but that's about it...
Yes my custom 270wsm Berger 170 eh @ 3200fps
if the popularity of 6.8 west was 100% certain for the next 60 years and i didnt want a 7mm prc. id get a rifle in it
He really talking about recoil on these LOL stop it now! I think the best should be energy on target up to 500 yards strictly talking hunting....paper popping it all doesn't matter its in optics and shooter in how much a guy shoots. Most guys looking in these rounds are looking for a deer rifle up to 500 yards ethically shooting, that's just what I am looking for and at....I have a Christensen MPR in .300 win mag and its my baby for elk, bear or if I am going long range for deer where I am shooting over 500 yard shots but I am here for a deer gun shots ranging from 250-500. I loved my .270 growing up it was my first rifle when I was 12 out here in the West. I did end up shooting a massive bear 3 times behind the shoulder dropped him each shot about 120 yards he got up tore up the ground mad, so hit him again he got up tore up the ground again, popped him again all 3 shots behind the shoulder and finally he ran hard and fast after the 3rd one and that boar ran 400-500 yards to his stump hole, it was a VERY VERY big beat and it took most the day tracing him, he leaned against a tree to stop the blood, he also rolled in a creek he was mad growling and we could hear him and thats what made us not go after him right away! A buddy was with me and witnessed the whole thing and couldn't belive it! We go 2 more guys and guns and we did track him where he did end up bleeding out in the chest cavity, he was a 620 pound all muscle pit bull of a bear!!!! State record boar and his rug takes up the biggest of walls, I have 25 foot ceilings and the wall makes my elk mounts dont make the wall look small, when that bear rug went up it made my wall look small LOL just a beautiful bear and I was deer hunting didnt expect to see him so I use a .300 when Im bear hunting. Out West these animals are just big and tough. But I plan on getting just a deer gun.....guess I could skip all that BS and just go 7mm but then again Im in a belted magnum and my .300 would work. I just want a fun .270 / 6.5- 6.8 caliber for just the deer, getting it in a Christensen, or maybe a Fierce....But I am stuck on my dang Christensen's even know Fierce split off from Christensen.....I came into this leaning towards the .270 WSM and at the end of this I am still leaning towards the .270 WSM!!! If I am in Grizzley country no way am I ever going to have anything less then a 7mm!!! My .300 win mag MPR is my baby however if Im going to Alaska I may just get a .338 WM or a .338 Lepua, or a .338 Ultra Mag!!! In Alaska .338 are the magic numbers in my opinion! Id rather have more gun then not enough lol
Hornady will not load for 270 wsm or 6.8 because it will compete with their 7mm prc
Not sure what you're talking about because Hornady currently does offer factory 270 WSM ammo in their Outfitter and Precision Hunter lines.
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog yup just got some
I have a .270 wsm and can't speak highly enough of it.
6.8 vs 257 Weatherby.....?
Good idea, thanks!
should have used the 6.5 prc instead. 6.8 western is Winchester attempt to re launch their failed 270wsm
Already did the 6.5 PRC vs 6.8 Western comparison here: ua-cam.com/video/x32rilXAH4E/v-deo.html
Not a failed attempt, Winchester and Browning didn't want to pay out royalties for every rifle sold chambered in 270WSM
If they didn't have to pay royalties, we'd have seen multiple twist rates and different grained bullets offered in the 270WSM
270 wsm
270 Weatherby
6.5 creedmore is a joke. If you like chasing deer forever go buy it. .277 caliber ammo is hands down the best whitetail caliber ever made. The 270 is awesome. The 270wsm is a 270 magnum. The 6.8 western is the ultimate 270 magnum. Pure fact
110 Barnes outve 270short mag model 70 just don't get any better.
Can you get the ammo in a factory load?
6.8 isn’t receiving any/ hardly any support,not seeing factory improvements just like in the past these companies start something any forget about it.
What are you talking about? Winchester has released 3 brand new loadings for the 6.8 Western in the past year: the 162gr Copper Impact, the 170gr Ballistic Silvertip, and the 170gr Power Point.
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Bro why the Creedmoor...... Prc wayyyyy better
Already did the 6.5 PRC vs 6.8 Western comparison here: ua-cam.com/video/x32rilXAH4E/v-deo.html
The 6.5 feels a little unfair here. Very much apples and oranges
30-06.
I don't even need to watch this video. The 6.5 Needmore will kill a moose at 900yds easily. Common lore told me so.
true facts... :)
@@Thebiggamehuntingblog I'm living proof I did that 😏 🤪 lol
If you just want accuracy in the 270 WSM at 300 yds Don’t care about knockdown power what factory brand and grain would you guys out there shoot