The special soldiers would be terrifying to fight. One is an unseen ghost that you only know is there because your friends keep dropping dead around you, another is a frenzied zealot rushing through walls of bullets to cut you with holy fervor and the third one is a former comrade that is so good at doing so many things that he feels less like advent and more like the Doom marine.
"One is an unseen ghost" I hate reapers so much. It claims to be a 50/50 chance of revealing upon a kill but everytime I do so it ALWAYS reveals them. I have genuienly never fired a shot with a reaper and not been spotted.
@@schnitzelfritzel6287 Yeah I don't use them to shoot things. They are the best scouts and spotters ever though. If your sharpshooters have line of sight they can pummel your enemies from the other side of the map. So they will never know what hit them.
Dahelmang is very right rather then use them independently the reaper is a support unit first and foremost the best way to use them is pairing them up with someone and either finishing or weakening an enemy but sharpshooter and reaper is a savage combo
The Mocx mod actually has enemy classes as enemies. If they actually do their actions they are very nasty. Honestly, Skirmishers are probably the biggest problem(Enemy Reapers and Templars are addons to the MOCX mod) because them ripping you out of cover is absolutely horrifying due to them usually having friends.
@@InsaneFrame could you beat Xcom 2 WOTC with only story characters meaning the OG starter squad plus the 1 skirmisher and reaper, the others you dismiss? it's a bit less challenging but I'd be interested to see if that's something you'd consider?
In preparation for the Templar, they are Tanks. Make them good at "Parry", beef up their HP if you can, see if you can get even more damage reductions and "Deflect" plus "Reflect" is good value for what you pay. Also the ability they have to make a clone of themselves "Ghost", is very nice as long as you can keep it around, aka not using all of it's focus up. Also also be aware the "Arc Wave" ability is amazing but if you don't pay attention you can accidentally blow something up you didn't want to blow up and damage/kill yourself. If you get a Templar with "Bladestorm", the run is almost won, rpobably and if you get "Impleccable" that is also pretty good.
next class is the jedi/sith vs the empire but as a 40k special we'll do the warhammer mods in xcom shuuuusshhh don't tell anyone! (even though its in the comments)
@@InsaneFrame I won't tell anyone, it's a secret between gentleman 🤐(Sounds cool ngl, can't wait for it to drop!). Your last video fast fire too, keep it up! Much love from Spain
And even when 2 of its intended habilities are bugged (Battlelord, the one you pick, who let you make an action per enemy action, and the special overwatch you let you do other actions instead). If not, the Skirmisher would be the most powerful class on par with the Psi-Ops. I do believe they see him like this and go "HELL NO" and bugged the abilities on purpose. There is a mod who fix that issue, and also make Parkour a 15% change to get a free action per enemy turn instead. I could see why they though Skirmishers would be a little more overpowered.
@@Raisen_ch honestly if serial with the sharpshooter is a thing battle lord would be the same thing but defensive it was a shame though otherwise skirmishers would be A tier not quite S tier but very close
@InsaneFrame Heck yeah, it did. I'm doing a modded run right now, using a custom class with the RPGO mod. Current in-game date is like, six years after the run should have probably ended. But I have access to the Ripjack, since I can't live without Retribution anymore. Side note, if you get around to the Templar, I recommend having them be Deadpool, with the covert operator being Hydra Bob.
@ then imma subscribe. And spend the day watching your backlog. Haven’t laughed this hard at a strategy game in awhile, but this final mission was something comedically beautiful.
@@GooberGoofy-lj5yd Sharpshooters have the best action economy then followed by the psi operative but skirmishers aren't far behind! (if battle lord worked yeah they'd be in the top 3)
Man, it's been so long since I played a vanilla game of WotC I'd forgotten how annoying some of the Skirmisher stuff is. I've modded in Skirmisher cooldowns instead of single-use abilities, and Parkour reduces the Grappling Hook cooldown by one. Not OP, but fantastic QoL stuff.
Though it may not be the most interesting idea, I would love to see a full run of a team of the specialist, or the survivors from these challenge runs. Maybe do it with a mod to make the game harder? Or, oh, a live stream would be neat.
I was half asleep watching this, and my brain decided that this was actually a brand new pokemon game. It was a very good game, very interesting to watch, but I have no idea where it got any of it from.
I wish you could reroll the random skills on the the bottom using ability points. Sometimes, I'll get an entire roster with skills that are entirely useless to their class and it's frustrating. Even if it requires a building first that would be fine.
@InsaneFrame up to yourself man, you know what your suscribers want. I think it would be a bit of a change for you. Make the game as difficult as possible rather than limiting yourself.
will be doing class challenges in future as a group with 3 soldiers ironman and on legendary difficulty since it would be as difficult as a solo on commander
It Xcom 2 but can you beat it with a single Monster Hunter Modded class? (Well is when they were called last I remember, they get buffs wearing the Alien Ruler armors)
don't focus on armour go all in on weapons and also, think about action economy (how much you can get out of each soldier each turn), rangers are very good at dealing with sectoids
@@lalalalalalalalalala-js5xl Because covert ops are not necessary to complete the game, it seems odd to bend the base idea of the run to allow their use.
You have probably heard this before but you talk like spiffing Brit. I mean not exactly like him but there are moments especially the executes in the hunter.
I dont trust bradford, he is far to concerned with whats going on down on the ground, please just fly the ship bradford your tactical tips are not needed.
My main problem with the skirmisher is that they don't play especially well with the rest of the team. Their unparalleled mobility isn't as useful if the rest of the squad can't follow them. They are still useful for getting from one side of the combat to the other to help out an out of position soldier but the other classes are generally better. Obviously, none of this applies to a solo run.
The special soldiers would be terrifying to fight. One is an unseen ghost that you only know is there because your friends keep dropping dead around you, another is a frenzied zealot rushing through walls of bullets to cut you with holy fervor and the third one is a former comrade that is so good at doing so many things that he feels less like advent and more like the Doom marine.
Like this summary they are going to have quite the wake up call with Commando/Trooper Joe
"One is an unseen ghost" I hate reapers so much. It claims to be a 50/50 chance of revealing upon a kill but everytime I do so it ALWAYS reveals them. I have genuienly never fired a shot with a reaper and not been spotted.
@@schnitzelfritzel6287 Yeah I don't use them to shoot things. They are the best scouts and spotters ever though. If your sharpshooters have line of sight they can pummel your enemies from the other side of the map. So they will never know what hit them.
Dahelmang is very right rather then use them independently the reaper is a support unit first and foremost the best way to use them is pairing them up with someone and either finishing or weakening an enemy but sharpshooter and reaper is a savage combo
The Mocx mod actually has enemy classes as enemies. If they actually do their actions they are very nasty. Honestly, Skirmishers are probably the biggest problem(Enemy Reapers and Templars are addons to the MOCX mod) because them ripping you out of cover is absolutely horrifying due to them usually having friends.
14:04 "Sorry, we can't help you. Our soldier is out of commission."
"...Do you mean soldiers?"
"No."
massive lol moment the single soldier defending humanity is out sick please come back when his leg is sewn back on
@@InsaneFrame Doomguy is taking care of his sick bnuuy. We'll return your call at his earliest convenience.
@@InsaneFrame could you beat Xcom 2 WOTC with only story characters meaning the OG starter squad plus the 1 skirmisher and reaper, the others you dismiss? it's a bit less challenging but I'd be interested to see if that's something you'd consider?
Very clearly this trooper isn't just your average Joe
You got the joke yes!!!!!
25:45 Oh, shooting an old brittle psychic man is TIGHT!
Wow wow wow.......wow
Yes! I love these XCOM challenges you do, on a friday no less! Too bad im at work so i'll have to watch this on my lunch
Pretty long vid but admire your dedication 👏
Trooper joe finishing the game with 1 health. He’s unstoppable. And very poetic
it took everything he had and he just managed to be the hero we needed (i hear he's in the hero suite at xcom paradise island)
@InsaneFrame Is Big Scuba there aswell?
Hope you guys enjoy this one was a doozy and trooper joe is here to show advent he isn't messing around!
I'm going to have to re ring that bell. For some reason I missed the release of this video.
I'm always up for an XCOM video...or a Fallout video...or a Skyrim video...or really just any video by you Mr. Frame.
Fear not corporal hunter going back to fallout and xcom videos but will slip new content in monthly
Im so glad you are doing more xcom, I really enjoy these videos!
They do take alot of work to do but are alot of fun
The saturation fire on the MECs was so pretty!
In preparation for the Templar, they are Tanks. Make them good at "Parry", beef up their HP if you can, see if you can get even more damage reductions and "Deflect" plus "Reflect" is good value for what you pay. Also the ability they have to make a clone of themselves "Ghost", is very nice as long as you can keep it around, aka not using all of it's focus up. Also also be aware the "Arc Wave" ability is amazing but if you don't pay attention you can accidentally blow something up you didn't want to blow up and damage/kill yourself. If you get a Templar with "Bladestorm", the run is almost won, rpobably and if you get "Impleccable" that is also pretty good.
Duuuude might have to play a templar before the star wars playthrough that class sounds so blooming good!
@@InsaneFrame I will watch either video, but ngl I am looking forward to the templar run, the most.
Yooo skirmishers are my favorite class
Skirmishers are pretty badass
@@InsaneFrame 😎😎😎
Same
I took a bit to watch it, but as always, amazing video. Every XCOM upload is just gold, thanks InsaneFrame! Keep it up mate.
Cheers man they do take an extra week since the game is longer then fallout but so enjoyable!
@@InsaneFrame Glad you enjoy the runs, that's what matters in the end. And definitely take your time, good quality videos ask for it, cheers 🍻
next class is the jedi/sith vs the empire but as a 40k special we'll do the warhammer mods in xcom shuuuusshhh don't tell anyone! (even though its in the comments)
@@InsaneFrame I won't tell anyone, it's a secret between gentleman 🤐(Sounds cool ngl, can't wait for it to drop!). Your last video fast fire too, keep it up! Much love from Spain
Love this video already, keep up the great work!
Thankyou it was very dicey to say the least!
Holly... That is a Xcom masterclass, wow!
Another great video to watch at work, thank you Insane Frame!
No worries a pleasure to provide videos for you!
finally someone again paid attention to xcom 2
Love Xcom 2 its one of the best games ever
This Skirmisher is the chosen one.
Trooper Joe became Commando Joe the minute the elders made a mistake and realised he was indeed the hero for XCOM!
Joe comes out of the ship. Every alien: Why do I hear Doom Eternal music?
And even when 2 of its intended habilities are bugged (Battlelord, the one you pick, who let you make an action per enemy action, and the special overwatch you let you do other actions instead). If not, the Skirmisher would be the most powerful class on par with the Psi-Ops. I do believe they see him like this and go "HELL NO" and bugged the abilities on purpose.
There is a mod who fix that issue, and also make Parkour a 15% change to get a free action per enemy turn instead. I could see why they though Skirmishers would be a little more overpowered.
@@Raisen_ch honestly if serial with the sharpshooter is a thing battle lord would be the same thing but defensive it was a shame though otherwise skirmishers would be A tier not quite S tier but very close
Whole new meaning to a good cup of Joe.
Dude, that mec saturation was amazing. It was so clean, I thought you used a Magic Eraser.
our saturation fire coming in clutch!
@InsaneFrame Heck yeah, it did. I'm doing a modded run right now, using a custom class with the RPGO mod. Current in-game date is like, six years after the run should have probably ended. But I have access to the Ripjack, since I can't live without Retribution anymore.
Side note, if you get around to the Templar, I recommend having them be Deadpool, with the covert operator being Hydra Bob.
I know it's 8 months late, but I just came up with a hilarious alternate Clickbait title. DOOMGUY IN XCOM2?!
@@kellenliame2674 don't worry it will soon happen ;)
@ then imma subscribe. And spend the day watching your backlog. Haven’t laughed this hard at a strategy game in awhile, but this final mission was something comedically beautiful.
Insert doom eternal rip and tear here.
wow, down to the wire at the end there, very nicely done
1 turn and we would've been toast
How did I miss this? I gotta turn the bell on. Well I know what I’m watching tonight!
Love your content Mr Frame!
Thankyou Mr Ashernelson :)
Skirmishers are incredibly strong, especially if you consider that Battlelord should make them even stronger and only does not do so because of a bug.
The action economy you have with a Skirmisher is almost the best in the game.
@@GooberGoofy-lj5yd Sharpshooters have the best action economy then followed by the psi operative but skirmishers aren't far behind! (if battle lord worked yeah they'd be in the top 3)
Trooper Joe... Super Joe...
@@BanTskTvaoan former advent now best trooper there ever was
Leave it to a Brit to refer to the Bullpup as "The XCOM SA-80"
Indeed it certainly has similarities to an SA-80 but railguns and lasers are all preferable!
Babe, wake up. New Insane Frame vid just dropped 🙏
Welcome hope its a good video for you!
Hello everyone, insane frame here 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Yep, that is my intro always have tea on hand ✋
The Andremedum *I slowly turn my head in disgust* THE WHAT
you know i thought i was pronouncing right its andromedon not andremdon or everyones favourite scuba alien
Thats XCOM baby!
Xcom is amazing ❤
Would love to see if you would do a run of xcom 2 with only Bradford
that would be amazing lol!
a wotc solo with my fav. class,son of a Bee im in.
*high fives* Yes my man! hope you enjoy! :D
Man, it's been so long since I played a vanilla game of WotC I'd forgotten how annoying some of the Skirmisher stuff is. I've modded in Skirmisher cooldowns instead of single-use abilities, and Parkour reduces the Grappling Hook cooldown by one. Not OP, but fantastic QoL stuff.
sounds like exactly what the skirmisher needs to be fair they are a really tactical class love them
Hello hello, great video :)
hello there thankyou for the kind words!
Though it may not be the most interesting idea, I would love to see a full run of a team of the specialist, or the survivors from these challenge runs. Maybe do it with a mod to make the game harder? Or, oh, a live stream would be neat.
I am thinking of doing 3 sqaud max difficulty plathroughs as a season 2
awesome , I always thought the Skirmishers are cool
Ahh matt good to see you yeah skirmishers are fun!
That hello in the beginning gave me spiffing Brit vibes lol
We are from similar areas in the uk
@@InsaneFrame ah I see
VOX TALA FOR TEN!
When I am watching your videos I am keep forgetting that you don't mention all failed attempts
Yep this one had many missions fail due to faction classes not having access to 2 item slots it's really tough sometimes!
I was half asleep watching this, and my brain decided that this was actually a brand new pokemon game. It was a very good game, very interesting to watch, but I have no idea where it got any of it from.
I guess sure! if it helps certain classes could be considered type advantages like ranger would be a fighting type excelling in melee
Amazingly done! This is an amazing video sir! I do have an unrelated question however, when can you say the discord may be set up?
im thinking probably in the next month or so since it'll be my first discord server!
Great video!
thanks man glad you enjoyed it
When are you gonna do templar or support or heavy?
@@shanewilson5345 currently doing a templar run and fallout london dropped in the middle of it
I wish you could reroll the random skills on the the bottom using ability points. Sometimes, I'll get an entire roster with skills that are entirely useless to their class and it's frustrating. Even if it requires a building first that would be fine.
I AM THE PERFECT KILLING MACHINE
Can you beat Skyrim as a Sentry Gunner?
Aka use only Ordinator turrets and bear traps.
I like this challenge idea!
Would a run on the highest difficulty with only 3 soldiers, but starting with all Chosen weapons and Alien ruler armour be too easy for you?
Yes actually it would if I could run 3 soldiers wouldn't even allow operatives but can do that challenge on ironman if you wish
@InsaneFrame up to yourself man, you know what your suscribers want. I think it would be a bit of a change for you. Make the game as difficult as possible rather than limiting yourself.
will be doing class challenges in future as a group with 3 soldiers ironman and on legendary difficulty since it would be as difficult as a solo on commander
@InsaneFrame sounds good, man. Can't wait to see how ridiculously powerful you can make a 3 man team.
Ever think about doing one with a single templar?
it's coming don't worry!
@@InsaneFrame LETS GOOO
Have you thought about using mods and doing an aliens only run?
Well... going to do a starwars run next and an aliens run as well!
I absolutely hated this class. For me, they felt very weak. This video will no doubt prove me wrong! haha
Yeah faction classes are limited a little by item usage can be tough
It Xcom 2 but can you beat it with a single Monster Hunter Modded class?
(Well is when they were called last I remember, they get buffs wearing the Alien Ruler armors)
we will be using a modded class in the next xcom 2 challenge and I hear the aliens are calling in their allies!
Any tips for the first game i keep geting annihilated lol
don't focus on armour go all in on weapons and also, think about action economy (how much you can get out of each soldier each turn), rangers are very good at dealing with sectoids
@@InsaneFrame oh maybe that's why I was focusing more on armor instead of weapons
Why did you allow other soldiers to do covert ops?
as the rules stated covert ops are allowed but if ambushed they can only run away
@@InsaneFrame My question was why they were allowed though.
@@Thundawich Why not? It is his run
@@lalalalalalalalalala-js5xl Because covert ops are not necessary to complete the game, it seems odd to bend the base idea of the run to allow their use.
@@Thundawich but without them the game is extremely difficult
Let's do this!
New vid lets goooooo!
Indeed it took a while to edit so happy you can all see it :)
@@InsaneFrame The edits were amazing and your voice is as glorious as always! Praise be to executes and bladestorm/retribution. XD
i love xcome but im not brave enough to do any challenges :)
it is very time consuming it takes a lot of attempts! usually anywhere between 60 -100 hours per a challenge
Bro why are views so low? This was a great vid.
Its okay give some time it'll do well :)
satuwation fire
👍👍
You have probably heard this before but you talk like spiffing Brit. I mean not exactly like him but there are moments especially the executes in the hunter.
Thankyou i take it as a compliment :)
Gotta love those repeaters!
Honestly it saved us so many times really helps in solo playthroughs
I dont trust bradford, he is far to concerned with whats going on down on the ground, please just fly the ship bradford your tactical tips are not needed.
My main problem with the skirmisher is that they don't play especially well with the rest of the team. Their unparalleled mobility isn't as useful if the rest of the squad can't follow them. They are still useful for getting from one side of the combat to the other to help out an out of position soldier but the other classes are generally better. Obviously, none of this applies to a solo run.
cool, I like x-com stuff *has never played an x-com game
my internet was down but now everything's fixed and nice, so.. time to catch up
glad the internet is fixed man, welcome back!