Used this technique a lot since I fell a lot of trees smaller than 12” diameter. Had one disaster with it, though. About a 14” diameter birch, still healthy, but the hinge broke as I hammered in the wedge. Between being a birch and the reduced hinge fibers, it wasn’t strong enough to handle the wedging. Fell against a transformer and hung, thankfully, instead of taking out a garage and two RV’s. Wouldn’t use this on birch again. Had never had problems with it before (mostly Aspen trees), but that was a disaster.
I’ve used the palm tree cut twice this week to successfully drop trees where I wanted them when they were leaning to the side. Thanks for the great videos!
Another Great Video... Thank you! Everything is always clearly and concisely explained! It's very rare to see anyone cover a topic so thoroughly, yet without a script.. Wow! While You obviously know your stuff, you could likely teach most anything.
Great leaning tools! I have been cutting at work now for a month and have learned a ton from ya! Thank you! I’ve cut down20 trees in 2 days of cutting. I’m only cutting dead trees
Thanks, great demo and explanation! Can you demonstrate and explain how and when to use the Rockford-Garner Double Reverse Firebird cut? I've only heard about it in legendary stories, but apparently it used to be very popular in Los Angeles. Kudos to those that get my humor! 😁
0:32 haha prpved why u dont use metal wedges to my friend yesterday. Ended up shortening the wedge by an inch. To be fair i was being swarmed by wasps while I was cutting do it wasnt my best work 😂 got stung but i wasn't leaving a tree 75% cut, leaning over a road. Or my wedges 😂
How much lean is too much to correct using this method? I have some leaning poplars I really need to cut and they have small diameters. I’m just worried about how much am able to redirect them. Thanks so much. Love the videos.
The cracking and popping comes from the hinge as the tree starts to tip. This is the fibers starting to bend and stretch, then finally the hinge breaking at the end. Plus the ground is very dry and there’s is a lot of sticks and debris on the ground.
Funny story for ya. The guy who taught the Palm tree cut to me said, "When I was younger, I was demonstrating this to a group of people who were standing behind the tree watching me drive the wedge. The hinge broke half way through and we all went running. They didn't think it was as funny as I did". I've used it a couple of times and am always surprised at just how much back lean this technique can overcome. Stay safe.
Did this Palm Tree Cut develop from the fibrous core of the palm tree not breaking cleanly at the hinge point? Necessitating the use of the center plunging cut?
Perhaps, but also to help combat the smaller diameter and the tendency for them to grow crooked with strange means where they can settle on the bar when trying to fell away from the direction of the lean. Just helps to control them (and other trees) as much as possible.
I was wondering if placing the back cut first followed with a wedge and face cut last could have resulted with the same finish. There are so many ways to accomplish the task with tree work.
I thought this "cut" was going to be b.s., but it was actually pretty good- it was interesting! This work is very hard. You gotta eat that healthy venison to stay strong and to keep working hard! I think a lot of Rodney Elmer. He is an excellent hunter who explains himself very well, that even a potato head like me can understand/see in my mind his point. I really do see Rodney in the same ranks as the all the Benoints and Hal Blood. Rodney is (or seems) patient, caring, careful, thoughtful person who acts and reacts wisely to situations/life. (so it seems to me) Although, I could be wrong. He is still human and breathes.... I knew you were a monkey beaver, but didnt know you had a channel. I just found it today. And, it is a blessing. I know this next statement is D headed, but I like that ol'480 isn't running his vocal cords so loud and fast all the time. I'm kinda sorry for the comment, but kinda not. Anyways, moving on. This cut, to me, seems more like a geometry math problem, that if not performed right could kill you. But actually seems to work. Of course it is by feel and can change from moment to moment. I grew up in the PNW, some 30 or so min from where the "Patty" film was filmed in the 60's. (We have blacktails and heavy brush) Yes, I am a believer. A believer in the B.F.'s, but more so a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) I watched several of your videos. Sometimes it looks like your chain is dull, just not cutting into the wood very fast while you seem to be pushing. This was seen in the under cut of a face cut ... Also, if your getting so tired, as to missing wedges as your swinging your axe, you really need to re-group, re-energize and rest a bit. Your getting too tired and that's when people get hurt and or worse. I have had family killed at the stump.... Your a neat dude, Monkey Beaver! I wish you well! Be Safe out! Your skill-set, your trade, your work, all though an art, is very very dangerous! Thanks for your vids...
Used this technique a lot since I fell a lot of trees smaller than 12” diameter. Had one disaster with it, though. About a 14” diameter birch, still healthy, but the hinge broke as I hammered in the wedge. Between being a birch and the reduced hinge fibers, it wasn’t strong enough to handle the wedging. Fell against a transformer and hung, thankfully, instead of taking out a garage and two RV’s. Wouldn’t use this on birch again. Had never had problems with it before (mostly Aspen trees), but that was a disaster.
You always have such good explanations and get right to the point. I appreciate that.
Thanks for sharing the video.
I’ve used the palm tree cut twice this week to successfully drop trees where I wanted them when they were leaning to the side. Thanks for the great videos!
Another Great Video... Thank you! Everything is always clearly and concisely explained! It's very rare to see anyone cover a topic so thoroughly, yet without a script.. Wow! While You obviously know your stuff, you could likely teach most anything.
Thanks Bob we’re glad you found some value in it! Hope this technique works for you, happy cutting!
Only two I’m interested in right now is the Sizwel or sizwheel and the swinging Dutchman. Thanks for the video on palm tree! I use it every day!
Great instructional style and delivery. Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
Awesome, I've never seen this cut before. Handy for the little leaners. I like it
This is my favorite way to take green trees off their lean… great video man… 👊
Brilliant! I can use this technique on many of the trees I have to drop! A million thank youze!
Always well explained, a fellow feller myself, I enjoy watching you guys at work.
Great leaning tools! I have been cutting at work now for a month and have learned a ton from ya! Thank you! I’ve cut down20 trees in 2 days of cutting. I’m only cutting dead trees
An extremely professional job,thanks bro
I have heard this cut called a "LETTER BOX" cut.
Thanks.
DOUG out
Youre a boss mate. 💪🔥 Love your demos!
Great explanation. Thanks -
Glad it was helpful!
Great explanation. Thank you!
Thanks, great demo and explanation!
Can you demonstrate and explain how and when to use the Rockford-Garner Double Reverse Firebird cut? I've only heard about it in legendary stories, but apparently it used to be very popular in Los Angeles.
Kudos to those that get my humor! 😁
Absolutely , useful info. These fellows are very skilled in their trade !! 👍👍
Thanks Jim! Glad you liked it, hope it helps. Happy cutting
great job explaining..thumbs up !!
Excellent presentation !
Acompanhando seus trabalhos aqui no Brasil
Enjoyed your video very professional
Nice cut, it fell just right.
Thanks!..great explanation !
Good video. I'll subscribe.
Thanks Tracy! Glad you found it useful, happy cutting 👍
Thank you!
Would you do a video about how to rig a gin pole(another tree with a porta wrap on the bottom) to another tree which has to be felled please.
Va mulțumesc pt video.
You’re the best
Really enjoying your videos. How about a demo of a "Soft Dutchman" and that type of cuts?
This would also prevent barber chairing of the tree right?
Thanks Awesome video and explanation !
Thanks we have a ton more videos on the way!
0:32 haha prpved why u dont use metal wedges to my friend yesterday. Ended up shortening the wedge by an inch. To be fair i was being swarmed by wasps while I was cutting do it wasnt my best work 😂 got stung but i wasn't leaving a tree 75% cut, leaning over a road. Or my wedges 😂
Thanks
How much lean is too much to correct using this method? I have some leaning poplars I really need to cut and they have small diameters. I’m just worried about how much am able to redirect them. Thanks so much. Love the videos.
If you have not made a video about the double hinge I would like to see that performed and explained.
If I understand this is for small tree that lean? When it's to small to use a regular bore cut? That one look big enuf to use a borecut?
Hoy. Great video , how much lean was there ? About ? Thanks again. Craig Pa
Can you plunge more to L or R if it has side lean?
Hey mate, good vids. I’m in Australia.
Do you use the same techniques for hardwood as for softwood?
You can sometime the hinge size might vary but in general what works pretty well for one type of tree can also work for another.
I hear a lot of cracking and popping, is that from the tree? What was the tree doing while you were cutting?
The cracking and popping comes from the hinge as the tree starts to tip. This is the fibers starting to bend and stretch, then finally the hinge breaking at the end. Plus the ground is very dry and there’s is a lot of sticks and debris on the ground.
I think some of that was the camera guy stepping on twigs. I thought it was the tree too. lol.
Funny story for ya. The guy who taught the Palm tree cut to me said, "When I was younger, I was demonstrating this to a group of people who were standing behind the tree watching me drive the wedge. The hinge broke half way through and we all went running. They didn't think it was as funny as I did".
I've used it a couple of times and am always surprised at just how much back lean this technique can overcome. Stay safe.
Did this Palm Tree Cut develop from the fibrous core of the palm tree not breaking cleanly at the hinge point? Necessitating the use of the center plunging cut?
Perhaps, but also to help combat the smaller diameter and the tendency for them to grow crooked with strange means where they can settle on the bar when trying to fell away from the direction of the lean. Just helps to control them (and other trees) as much as possible.
How do you prevent the falling tree from jumping?
Is that how you are supposed to cut down a palm tree? I am just waiting for the right wind conditions, and will cut mine down then.
could i use the palm tree cut in replacement of the split level cut?
yes... no...?
I was wondering if placing the back cut first followed with a wedge and face cut last could have resulted with the same finish. There are so many ways to accomplish the task with tree work.
I learned it in 06 as the bore wing cut
I thought this "cut" was going to be b.s., but it was actually pretty good- it was interesting!
This work is very hard. You gotta eat that healthy venison to stay strong and to keep working hard!
I think a lot of Rodney Elmer. He is an excellent hunter who explains himself very well, that even a potato head like me can understand/see in my mind his point.
I really do see Rodney in the same ranks as the all the Benoints and Hal Blood. Rodney is (or seems) patient, caring, careful, thoughtful person who acts and reacts wisely to situations/life. (so it seems to me) Although, I could be wrong. He is still human and breathes....
I knew you were a monkey beaver, but didnt know you had a channel. I just found it today. And, it is a blessing.
I know this next statement is D headed, but I like that ol'480 isn't running his vocal cords so loud and fast all the time. I'm kinda sorry for the comment, but kinda not. Anyways, moving on.
This cut, to me, seems more like a geometry math problem, that if not performed right could kill you. But actually seems to work. Of course it is by feel and can change from moment to moment.
I grew up in the PNW, some 30 or so min from where the "Patty" film was filmed in the 60's. (We have blacktails and heavy brush)
Yes, I am a believer. A believer in the B.F.'s, but more so a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Trinity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit)
I watched several of your videos. Sometimes it looks like your chain is dull, just not cutting into the wood very fast while you seem to be pushing. This was seen in the under cut of a face cut ...
Also, if your getting so tired, as to missing wedges as your swinging your axe, you really need to re-group, re-energize and rest a bit. Your getting too tired and that's when people get hurt and or worse. I have had family killed at the stump....
Your a neat dude, Monkey Beaver! I wish you well! Be Safe out!
Your skill-set, your trade, your work, all though an art, is very very dangerous!
Thanks for your vids...