Don’t trust UA-cam hype on Himalayan(almost paid). Test drive both, personally I liked Scrambler, it does it all and it’s fun to ride every time. It’s a beast 🔥🔥🔥
I tried both & trust me Don't waste on RE again go for 400x fit & finish & overall Power & quality is way better than RE ... DONT GO WITH some UA-camr it's paid for sure
After rest driving both I have to say a few things, 1.scrambler is seriously much more fun than you think it is. I had to rev the himmy in the city and the lack of low end torque made it a bit of dud for me. 2. The guys at triumph are much more friendly and easier to talk and understand things while RE guys are kind of a if you want take it attitude These are some of the things that I would like to highlight and it’s my personal opinion
RE doesn't need to convince its buyers. Coz they know people will take it anyway. There is a long waitlist for the Himalayan and I am the first one to take delivery from my showroom without even taking a test-ride. I pre-booked the HD 440x, Speed 400 and the Himalayan 450. After taking test ride of the first 2 bikes, I decided to go with the Himalayan as my main criteria was touring. Another reason to chose RE is that RE dealership is just 500 metres from my home while Triumph dealership is 50 kms away. So RE makes a lot of sense than the Triumph for me.
@@souviksarkar578RE won’t last long. Himmy will be a junk with sloppy engine after 3 years. Triumph has a built quality like tank. Premium as hell. Triumph is better in hills and city and good in long tour. Himalaya is only better in long tour.
I had test drive both today, here's how I felt: Before you read ahead I'm 6'1" tall & hence shorter rider might not find my points valid RE Himalayan: around 10KMs test drive 1) Bike feels little heavy when lifting from side stand but not as much as some people exaggerate (leans a lot on side stand) 2) Digital Console is beautiful to look at, functional as well, high handlebar gives relaxed riding posture 3) Switchgears get some time to used to ( pass switch is integrated into high/low beam rotary switch is not a good idea) 4) Performance is great, there is slow buildup till 3K RPM past that it just pulls & pulls, exhaust sounds amazing at high RPM encourages you to ride faster (I'm a fast rider & like the thrill of acceleration, felt really impressed with the pull) 5) There are some engine buzz but nothing like deal breaker (could feel some buzz oh handlebar around 5K) 6) Weight distribution is really good, doesn't tip side to side maintains proper position (It doesn't feel like 196KG once it starts moving, at no point in slow moving traffic I felt the need to put down my feet, can lean in curves reasonably well even with 21inch front) 7) Suspension tuning is done really well, its plush over broken potholes yet firm when braking on tarmac 8) Clutch was light for me & worked well. Brakes were superb 9) Seat was comfortable & lot of space to move around, seat is little firm which will actually help on longer rides 10) Lots of road presence on this bike & people were actually checking out the bike Triumph Scrambler 400X: around 3KM test drive 1) Bikes feels lighter to pick up than himalayan side stand lean also less(11KG ligher on paper) 2) Speedo Console looks outdated (RPM should have been analog & speed should have been digital, hard to read RPM on current setup) 3) Switchgears layout are normal like other bikes & slightly better finish than himalayan, Handlebar is nice & wide, foot pegs are slight rearset giving a sporty posture 4)Performance is linear, it doesn't have that kick in the face acceleration like himalayan, what it does offer is low end torque, easier to manage in traffic, exhaust sounds good when idle but once it crosses higher RPMs 6K-7K it feels thrashy & not encouraging to ride faster, I found myself smiling after enjoying that pull from himalayan engine same didn't happen here. 5) Slight buzz on footpeg area but not much, more refined than himalayan for sure 6) Weight distribution is equally good, bike is more flickable than himalayan with 19inch front, no magic here all physics 7) Suspension felt more firm than himalayan, I could feel the waviness of concrete road on scrambler, less suspension travel was evident on speed breakers, Showa on himalayan are leaps ahead. 8) Clutch was light as the bike had better low end didn't feel the need to feather clutch too much 9) Seat although plush feels little too soft, seat has wider base as well as 10mm taller than himalayan putting feet down takes more efforts here. 10) No much road presence, I'm siting taller than other bikes but it feels part of traffic doesn't stand out, Himalayan surely does. VERDICT: Mind says get scrambler 400X save 30K over himalayan get tubeless tyres & ride hassel free. But after test riding them back to back my heart is stuck on that Himalayan with its relaxed riding position, maniac acceleration & excellent suspension. Personally I do not care much how a bike looks it should ride well & put a smile on face. Himalayan does that for me. SOME TIPS FOR YOU: If you are new to biking/ doesn't have the discipline needed to ride higher HP bikes yet/ looking for mostly riding in city or stay in cities with dense traffic/ someone who prefers form over function/ rarely rides with pillion then Scrambler 400X is better of the two If you are experience rider/ looking for a highway tourer/ rides with pillion most of the time/ someone who prefers function over form/ goes proper off-road/ wants the tall adventure bike feels or looks/ IS WILLING TO TAKE TUBE TYRE can go ahead with Himalayan Basically Himalayan has higher skill level ceiling & you will learn a lot about riding as you grow old with the bike, Scrambler feels relatively easy to master hence good for the newbies but they will reach the skill ceiling soon on that bike.
Triumph badge, better looks, possibly better fit & finish, lower price, better comfort for city commutes, peppy engine, agility due to lower weight will make Scram my choice of the two.
This format of presentation by far gives me maximum understanding. The pleasant and casual conversation kept me glued to the video throughout. Very honest and authentic viewpoints. Great comparison of aspects that cannot be put on paper but are decision-makers. Thanks a lot and looking forward to more such formats
Na Himalayan 452 much more capable than scrambler Best for highway Faster than scrambler Better in offroading Even in traffic its not as heavy as people think
@@abhi__fitnesspbx no, maybe for you to think that, but 400x is far more capable. It's all about perspective... for my activities scrambler 400x checks more ✅ than Himalayan 452
@@Plough78 Avg RE fans Don't Know the difference between Adventure Tourers and Scrambler. Plus it's the skills of rider not bike but a Fanboy like you won't Know this. *Crap Game*
Nothing new in this post, everything talked about here has been discussed dozens of time in this channel and elsewhere. Now that these two machines has been out for a while, these auto-journalists should have focused on gathering - service experience, reliability, after-market parts, ownership experience.
Why are no reviewers mentioning about the engine immobilizer feature in Scrambler 400x ?? It is a really good feature found in only more expensive bikes.
True !👍 Looks like the availability of important features like traction control (just forgatable passing reference) for riders' safety and engine immobiliser for bike's safety has no importance for them! Shocking!! One more aspect is almost neglected : Triumph's fit and finish....many notches up than Himalayan any day!!
The scrambler does the job for me..the fit and finish is superb..it's a Head Turner...very good low end torque... very much usable powerband...very linear..flickable...easy for the city..service cost is not high...very minimal ownership issues unlike Himalayan were conset problem is still not sorted out..The number of service centers is the only issue..but they are adding new centres at faster rate
Großartiges Video, danke ihnen beiden für diese schöne Beschreibung. Die Scrambler gefällt mir besser. KTM 390 ist nicht mein Geschmack. Honda crf 300 Rally mit etwas mehr Power wäre toll. Ich bin dabei meine BMW GS 1200 von 2006 zu verkaufen. Nicht leicht dieses Motorrad loszulassen. Sie ist mir mit 66 Jahren zu schwer (235kg) geworden. Liebe Grüße aus Deutschland, bleibt gesund, Raule
Scrambler400X should be better choice for a regular guy, how many times you go offroading and touring anyway. Have done couple of 300/400 kms a day trips on a size smaller Speed400 and there were no issues atall.
Love you both, great content as always, huge fan here! However, in my personal opinion, a few more points that I believe should be discussed more broadly regarding the Himalayan given it has some so-called cons. Vibes - what exactly are vibes? Are they annoying to the point where the motorcycles cannot be ridden? Are they leaving the riders with pain in the wrist or ankle in let’s say 100kms or 500kms rides? or does it turn the rider into a vibrator? When the word vibes appear, I don’t understand because people who are presently 25 or above, we have grown up riding some of the most unrefined motorcycles since our childhood. Compared to those, the modern gen machines are superior any day. So vibes? Not an issue to me personally. The phone cast nav system with screen on isn’t really a big bad thing. Had there been not the nav on the screen, one would’ve just mounted phone with the screen on, right? But now with the screen on casted on the dash, atleast one can keep the phone inside a bag, making it secure. Not a big thing. Or else, one can also have a second cheaper smartphone just for nav connected to a powerbank. Weight - those who are complaining, hit the gym and pull some weights. People are dealing with 200 or 230kgs motorcycles or even more, not an issue. I weigh 72kgs and im 5.7, did not feel like a trouble. Low end torque issue - one can simply switch to a 49-teeth rear sprocket and throw in a FuelXpro change the mapping to 8 or 9. That’s additional 16kish expenditure but somewhat solves the issue -- Bhatt has already done it and it works. Even im planning to do the same. Finally flickability -- We know this is essentially a tourer and like any tourer, this is not supposed to be flicked or zipzapped through traffic like a Duke. So somebody buying this motorcycle for everyday ride, city rides has to be done in a calm and composed sensible manner. I dont see why anybody would try to ride it like a Duke, doing crisscross maneuvers and then saying it is too heavy or not manageable in peak traffic.
Everything was great until they mentioned V-storm 250, they still have engine issuse, recently once again there is an recall. Also This was not an sensible to compare Scrambler with ADV. Husky Norden 401 based on new KTM 390 ADV would be better competitor for Hima 450. I like looks of Speed/Scram but that console is bit let down. Whereas everything is good at himalayan except weight & tube tyres. But in the end I am going to Himalayan after Testing all other 300-500cc bikes.
I am not coughing up 4+ lakh for a bare bone motorcycle without a tubeless tyre in 2024, I’m not emotionally attached to RE. I’d rather go get ADV 390 if i had the money.
Technically if you buy scrambler you can get speed 400s sintered brake pad. The organic brake pads on scrambler are because it is made for a novice to manage.
4 lakhs for motorcycles that can just about do 100-110 comfortably on the highway. Something that the OG Karizma or the CBR 250 could do at half the price, over a decade ago. Also something that even an R15 or the Suzuki 250s or the Honda CB350s can do even today with a lot fewer quirks and compromises. Brands need to focus more on the product and less on the marketing!
Did you guys try out the sintered pads on the Scrambler? Sagar said it's the tyres because of which the braking is so poor! And update if RE is planning to launch a Scrambler based on sherpa engine?
Personally I like the Triumph Scrambler 400X, but after the launch of Hero Mavrick 440 @ 1.99 Lakh................. I was waiting for the price drop of Suuki V Strom 250SX..........because Triumph Scrambler 400X is not in my budget & Mavrick 440 is not a 1 Bike, that can do all things like V Strom 250.........
But suzuki isn’t gonna do that.. The V Storm is one of the best bike.. but it’s foolish pricing letting it down at present.. V storm price must be below 2 Lakh now. (ex showroom)
Very simple, all good about himalayan but 3 very important things. 1) The weight, it is the biggest barrier whether in city or off roading 2)The vibrations, what i have seen driving both motorcycles, triumph is definetly have less vibs than himalayan and the triumph engine is just butter smooth 3) Most important is the pricing, why RE puts pricing on colours? The top spec in Mumbai coat 3.5lac on road which is too much for machine not having features like ke engine immobilizer, traction control etc. Also no tubeless tyres, just imagine if it gets puncture while touring, will be a different adventure altogether 😂😂
Well technically, both bikes can do everything, it is just about how much less stress one provides when riding in a particular scenario over the other.
@@ackodrive here's an anecdote from my experience modding stuff. I bought a 33mm carb for my old Pulsar when I was doing some mods. It was a Mikuni carb made for multiple manufacturers. This component at Bajaj (for the Pulsar 200NS) was like 3k, while the same component at an RE dealership (for their 500cc engine) was 5k. In short, I have good reason to be skeptical of this belief. I don't know many people complaining about KTM spare cost either.
@@atyantabhava345Since you are talking about carburettors, let me talk about FI throttle bodies. The throttle body on most Bajaj-made KTMs costs about 6k. For the Interceptor, the cost is 12k but it has two throttle bodies bolted together. Some RE parts are about the same price as Bajaj parts while others cost more. Bajaj excels at minimising cost.
@@twowheeledparadox I guess the correct comparison would be with the Himalayan's throttle body. Based on my past experience, I'd still be willing to bet that the Himalayan's will cost more, even if it's made by the same supplier. Basically less volume, and the fact that they CAN charge more (brand value and all that). Simple capitalism.
I really wish xpulse 200 was included in this comparison. That bike would have beaten these two easily in every aspect. Agility, light weight, adventure performance in mud, dirt etc. at the same time giving good mileage from the engine. Xpulse 200 is just on another level. A do it all compact motorcycle with good enough power.
If you see the video of stripped version of Himalayan by Abhinav Bhatt, all that these people are saying on acko drive video stands absolutely null & void
Himalayan is the winner but 😂😂 this and that no jugad they found for it another hand Triumph scram is not the best of all but you can use aftermarket parts to improve 😂😂.
🌟I Want To Be Politically Correct.......My Height Is 6 Feet, The Compact Dimensions Of Triumph Is Definitely Better For City Use Specially In Pune Traffic😉 But Same Time I Like The Towering Feel Of Himalayan Too(Towering Touring)......I Wish Royal Enfield Offered Tubeless Tyres Right From Day 1. Things Will Get Really Intresting When We Get New Age Competition From Honda's Upcoming CB 300 Based AVD & Kawasaki's Ninja 300 Based ADV With That Creamy Parallel Twin Cylinder Engine😍👍 Really Like To See Sidharth Sir Doing Any Bike Review👍
#Triumph has no feel. It’s like a 400 cc splendour. Yes it can achieve 140-150cc but in its journey from 0 to 140 it gives no thrill no excitement. Let me put an analogy here. Triumph is like a student who is neither as brilliant as the first boy nor as naughty as the back benchers. After riding it I call it the “Mellow Fellow “😅
The caliper is the same construction as the KTM 390 Duke, Triumph Speed 400 and the Aprilia RS457. The Duke has the best pads, the Speed ones are good, Aprilia are bad. So pick your poison
Don’t trust UA-cam hype on Himalayan(almost paid).
Test drive both, personally I liked Scrambler, it does it all and it’s fun to ride every time. It’s a beast 🔥🔥🔥
I agree bro scram is some serious fun ❤
💯 true 😊
Agree
I tried both & trust me Don't waste on RE again go for 400x fit & finish & overall Power & quality is way better than RE ... DONT GO WITH some UA-camr it's paid for sure
Crap talk
@@achintyakumar7125 Nope... Real talk.
After rest driving both I have to say a few things,
1.scrambler is seriously much more fun than you think it is. I had to rev the himmy in the city and the lack of low end torque made it a bit of dud for me.
2. The guys at triumph are much more friendly and easier to talk and understand things while RE guys are kind of a if you want take it attitude
These are some of the things that I would like to highlight and it’s my personal opinion
RE doesn't need to convince its buyers. Coz they know people will take it anyway. There is a long waitlist for the Himalayan and I am the first one to take delivery from my showroom without even taking a test-ride. I pre-booked the HD 440x, Speed 400 and the Himalayan 450. After taking test ride of the first 2 bikes, I decided to go with the Himalayan as my main criteria was touring. Another reason to chose RE is that RE dealership is just 500 metres from my home while Triumph dealership is 50 kms away. So RE makes a lot of sense than the Triumph for me.
@@souviksarkar578RE won’t last long. Himmy will be a junk with sloppy engine after 3 years. Triumph has a built quality like tank. Premium as hell. Triumph is better in hills and city and good in long tour. Himalaya is only better in long tour.
I had test drive both today, here's how I felt:
Before you read ahead I'm 6'1" tall & hence shorter rider might not find my points valid
RE Himalayan: around 10KMs test drive
1) Bike feels little heavy when lifting from side stand but not as much as some people exaggerate (leans a lot on side stand)
2) Digital Console is beautiful to look at, functional as well, high handlebar gives relaxed riding posture
3) Switchgears get some time to used to ( pass switch is integrated into high/low beam rotary switch is not a good idea)
4) Performance is great, there is slow buildup till 3K RPM past that it just pulls & pulls, exhaust sounds amazing at high RPM encourages you to ride faster (I'm a fast rider & like the thrill of acceleration, felt really impressed with the pull)
5) There are some engine buzz but nothing like deal breaker (could feel some buzz oh handlebar around 5K)
6) Weight distribution is really good, doesn't tip side to side maintains proper position (It doesn't feel like 196KG once it starts moving, at no point in slow moving traffic I felt the need to put down my feet, can lean in curves reasonably well even with 21inch front)
7) Suspension tuning is done really well, its plush over broken potholes yet firm when braking on tarmac
8) Clutch was light for me & worked well. Brakes were superb
9) Seat was comfortable & lot of space to move around, seat is little firm which will actually help on longer rides
10) Lots of road presence on this bike & people were actually checking out the bike
Triumph Scrambler 400X: around 3KM test drive
1) Bikes feels lighter to pick up than himalayan side stand lean also less(11KG ligher on paper)
2) Speedo Console looks outdated (RPM should have been analog & speed should have been digital, hard to read RPM on current setup)
3) Switchgears layout are normal like other bikes & slightly better finish than himalayan, Handlebar is nice & wide, foot pegs are slight rearset giving a sporty posture
4)Performance is linear, it doesn't have that kick in the face acceleration like himalayan, what it does offer is low end torque, easier to manage in traffic, exhaust sounds good when idle but once it crosses higher RPMs 6K-7K it feels thrashy & not encouraging to ride faster, I found myself smiling after enjoying that pull from himalayan engine same didn't happen here.
5) Slight buzz on footpeg area but not much, more refined than himalayan for sure
6) Weight distribution is equally good, bike is more flickable than himalayan with 19inch front, no magic here all physics
7) Suspension felt more firm than himalayan, I could feel the waviness of concrete road on scrambler, less suspension travel was evident on speed breakers, Showa on himalayan are leaps ahead.
8) Clutch was light as the bike had better low end didn't feel the need to feather clutch too much
9) Seat although plush feels little too soft, seat has wider base as well as 10mm taller than himalayan putting feet down takes more efforts here.
10) No much road presence, I'm siting taller than other bikes but it feels part of traffic doesn't stand out, Himalayan surely does.
VERDICT:
Mind says get scrambler 400X save 30K over himalayan get tubeless tyres & ride hassel free. But after test riding them back to back my heart is stuck on that Himalayan with its relaxed riding position, maniac acceleration & excellent suspension. Personally I do not care much how a bike looks it should ride well & put a smile on face. Himalayan does that for me.
SOME TIPS FOR YOU:
If you are new to biking/ doesn't have the discipline needed to ride higher HP bikes yet/ looking for mostly riding in city or stay in cities with dense traffic/ someone who prefers form over function/ rarely rides with pillion then Scrambler 400X is better of the two
If you are experience rider/ looking for a highway tourer/ rides with pillion most of the time/ someone who prefers function over form/ goes proper off-road/ wants the tall adventure bike feels or looks/ IS WILLING TO TAKE TUBE TYRE can go ahead with Himalayan
Basically Himalayan has higher skill level ceiling & you will learn a lot about riding as you grow old with the bike, Scrambler feels relatively easy to master hence good for the newbies but they will reach the skill ceiling soon on that bike.
Sou grato pelo seu comentário, tenho exatamente a sua altura. Obrigado!!
Triumph badge, better looks, possibly better fit & finish, lower price, better comfort for city commutes, peppy engine, agility due to lower weight will make Scram my choice of the two.
I hope this channel grows. You guys are a nice combo.
Thanks for the love. Much appreciated
This format of presentation by far gives me maximum understanding. The pleasant and casual conversation kept me glued to the video throughout. Very honest and authentic viewpoints. Great comparison of aspects that cannot be put on paper but are decision-makers. Thanks a lot and looking forward to more such formats
Scrambler 400x
Na Himalayan 452 much more capable than scrambler
Best for highway
Faster than scrambler
Better in offroading
Even in traffic its not as heavy as people think
Also easy to get punctured in the middle of nowhere
@@abhi__fitnesspbx no, maybe for you to think that, but 400x is far more capable. It's all about perspective... for my activities scrambler 400x checks more ✅ than Himalayan 452
@@dayeshkulal9466 Even the Himmy 411 is better than the scrambler 400 x off road.. ❤
*Crap Game* 🎉
@@Plough78 Avg RE fans Don't Know the difference between Adventure Tourers and Scrambler. Plus it's the skills of rider not bike but a Fanboy like you won't Know this.
*Crap Game*
Nothing new in this post, everything talked about here has been discussed dozens of time in this channel and elsewhere.
Now that these two machines has been out for a while, these auto-journalists should have focused on gathering - service experience, reliability, after-market parts, ownership experience.
I got the same test drive bike from Triumph showroom pashan yesterday , there's a nail in the rear tyre since this this video.
Why are no reviewers mentioning about the engine immobilizer feature in Scrambler 400x ??
It is a really good feature found in only more expensive bikes.
True !👍
Looks like the availability of important features like traction control (just forgatable passing reference) for riders' safety and engine immobiliser for bike's safety has no importance for them! Shocking!! One more aspect is almost neglected : Triumph's fit and finish....many notches up than Himalayan any day!!
The new hunter has it.
after all the praising on himalayan they want to buy scrambler 😂😂😂... sponsor justified and verdict justified
The scrambler does the job for me..the fit and finish is superb..it's a Head Turner...very good low end torque... very much usable powerband...very linear..flickable...easy for the city..service cost is not high...very minimal ownership issues unlike Himalayan were conset problem is still not sorted out..The number of service centers is the only issue..but they are adding new centres at faster rate
What is the FE you're getting?
Großartiges Video, danke ihnen beiden für diese schöne Beschreibung. Die Scrambler gefällt mir besser. KTM 390 ist nicht mein Geschmack. Honda crf 300 Rally mit etwas mehr Power wäre toll. Ich bin dabei meine BMW GS 1200 von 2006 zu verkaufen. Nicht leicht dieses Motorrad loszulassen. Sie ist mir mit 66 Jahren zu schwer (235kg) geworden. Liebe Grüße aus Deutschland, bleibt gesund, Raule
Scrambler400X should be better choice for a regular guy, how many times you go offroading and touring anyway. Have done couple of 300/400 kms a day trips on a size smaller Speed400 and there were no issues atall.
Why is a scrambler getting compared to an adventure? Bring on the RE scram 400 against the 400x
Love you both, great content as always, huge fan here!
However, in my personal opinion, a few more points that I believe should be discussed more broadly regarding the Himalayan given it has some so-called cons.
Vibes - what exactly are vibes? Are they annoying to the point where the motorcycles cannot be ridden? Are they leaving the riders with pain in the wrist or ankle in let’s say 100kms or 500kms rides? or does it turn the rider into a vibrator? When the word vibes appear, I don’t understand because people who are presently 25 or above, we have grown up riding some of the most unrefined motorcycles since our childhood. Compared to those, the modern gen machines are superior any day. So vibes? Not an issue to me personally.
The phone cast nav system with screen on isn’t really a big bad thing. Had there been not the nav on the screen, one would’ve just mounted phone with the screen on, right? But now with the screen on casted on the dash, atleast one can keep the phone inside a bag, making it secure. Not a big thing. Or else, one can also have a second cheaper smartphone just for nav connected to a powerbank.
Weight - those who are complaining, hit the gym and pull some weights. People are dealing with 200 or 230kgs motorcycles or even more, not an issue. I weigh 72kgs and im 5.7, did not feel like a trouble.
Low end torque issue - one can simply switch to a 49-teeth rear sprocket and throw in a FuelXpro change the mapping to 8 or 9. That’s additional 16kish expenditure but somewhat solves the issue -- Bhatt has already done it and it works. Even im planning to do the same.
Finally flickability -- We know this is essentially a tourer and like any tourer, this is not supposed to be flicked or zipzapped through traffic like a Duke. So somebody buying this motorcycle for everyday ride, city rides has to be done in a calm and composed sensible manner. I dont see why anybody would try to ride it like a Duke, doing crisscross maneuvers and then saying it is too heavy or not manageable in peak traffic.
Royal enfield just creating one beauty after other...riding dynamics and performance aside RE killing competition with their gorgeous retro styling
Everything was great until they mentioned V-storm 250, they still have engine issuse, recently once again there is an recall. Also This was not an sensible to compare Scrambler with ADV. Husky Norden 401 based on new KTM 390 ADV would be better competitor for Hima 450. I like looks of Speed/Scram but that console is bit let down. Whereas everything is good at himalayan except weight & tube tyres. But in the end I am going to Himalayan after Testing all other 300-500cc bikes.
If it's gonna be the only bike in your garage, get the 400x. If you already have a daily, get the 450. Simple.
Most detailed & unbiased video I've came across yet
I am not coughing up 4+ lakh for a bare bone motorcycle without a tubeless tyre in 2024, I’m not emotionally attached to RE.
I’d rather go get ADV 390 if i had the money.
Agree 👍
Except that the Himalayan is not barebones and the 390 Adventure is primarily a road bike.
You guys are good. Very entertaining watching you discuss these bikes. Very knowledgeable too. But I like my 310gs better.
Technically if you buy scrambler you can get speed 400s sintered brake pad.
The organic brake pads on scrambler are because it is made for a novice to manage.
4 lakhs for motorcycles that can just about do 100-110 comfortably on the highway. Something that the OG Karizma or the CBR 250 could do at half the price, over a decade ago. Also something that even an R15 or the Suzuki 250s or the Honda CB350s can do even today with a lot fewer quirks and compromises.
Brands need to focus more on the product and less on the marketing!
These bikes aren't meant to do mere xx kmph on highway.
Perhaps you need to focus more on the product and less on the spec sheet.
Why you guys are not make the video on Himalayan 450 vs Honda NX500?
Given the Dakar level kit on Himalayan, its not too expendsive but that casting thing needs to improve.
Did you guys try out the sintered pads on the Scrambler? Sagar said it's the tyres because of which the braking is so poor!
And update if RE is planning to launch a Scrambler based on sherpa engine?
Personally I like the Triumph Scrambler 400X, but after the launch of Hero Mavrick 440 @ 1.99 Lakh.................
I was waiting for the price drop of Suuki V Strom 250SX..........because Triumph Scrambler 400X is not in my budget & Mavrick 440 is not a 1 Bike, that can do all things like V Strom 250.........
But suzuki isn’t gonna do that.. The V Storm is one of the best bike.. but it’s foolish pricing letting it down at present.. V storm price must be below 2 Lakh now. (ex showroom)
Awesome review ❤
Hope to see a review of NX 500
hope Hero launches Xpulse 400/440 soon
Us as well!
Honest review really liked your video
I found Himalayan has decent grunt in low end not like most of the reviewers complain. It was definitely tractable.
Very simple, all good about himalayan but 3 very important things.
1) The weight, it is the biggest barrier whether in city or off roading
2)The vibrations, what i have seen driving both motorcycles, triumph is definetly have less vibs than himalayan and the triumph engine is just butter smooth
3) Most important is the pricing, why RE puts pricing on colours? The top spec in Mumbai coat 3.5lac on road which is too much for machine not having features like ke engine immobilizer, traction control etc. Also no tubeless tyres, just imagine if it gets puncture while touring, will be a different adventure altogether 😂😂
Him 450 is a bettr tourer no doubt. Scrambler is bettr in city no doubt in tht also.
Agreed with what you said. But also i think, it depends on riding skills. If they are good you can ride Himalayan in city comfortably.
True that.
Well technically, both bikes can do everything, it is just about how much less stress one provides when riding in a particular scenario over the other.
Scrambler is far better than Himalayan 450... Miles ahead....
Aren't Bajaj spares consistently cheaper than RE? Point on dealership network is 100% valid though.
Bajaj yes, but Triumph is a bit premium compared to Royal Enfield. Not a lot but a little bit more, yes. Not like KTM-BMW difference but yeah.
@@ackodrivespecifically which ones you found more expensive than RE? Just curious to know since I own 400x.
@@ackodrive here's an anecdote from my experience modding stuff. I bought a 33mm carb for my old Pulsar when I was doing some mods. It was a Mikuni carb made for multiple manufacturers. This component at Bajaj (for the Pulsar 200NS) was like 3k, while the same component at an RE dealership (for their 500cc engine) was 5k. In short, I have good reason to be skeptical of this belief. I don't know many people complaining about KTM spare cost either.
@@atyantabhava345Since you are talking about carburettors, let me talk about FI throttle bodies. The throttle body on most Bajaj-made KTMs costs about 6k. For the Interceptor, the cost is 12k but it has two throttle bodies bolted together. Some RE parts are about the same price as Bajaj parts while others cost more. Bajaj excels at minimising cost.
@@twowheeledparadox I guess the correct comparison would be with the Himalayan's throttle body. Based on my past experience, I'd still be willing to bet that the Himalayan's will cost more, even if it's made by the same supplier. Basically less volume, and the fact that they CAN charge more (brand value and all that). Simple capitalism.
Mere pass nothing phone 2 hai usme screen lock hone par bhi me map easily use kr sakta hu so there's not a problem in navigation at all
Hey just one question is the handle bar on you himalayan risen upwards like have you modified it?
I really wish xpulse 200 was included in this comparison. That bike would have beaten these two easily in every aspect. Agility, light weight, adventure performance in mud, dirt etc. at the same time giving good mileage from the engine. Xpulse 200 is just on another level. A do it all compact motorcycle with good enough power.
Sehr interessant, Kenne ich nicht, welcher Hersteller? Sicherlich ein Motorrad was es in Europa nicht gibt, danke trotzdem. Gruß Raule/ Deutschland
Bro your review is in complete contrast with others get ur review more informative and more engaging
If you see the video of stripped version of Himalayan by Abhinav Bhatt, all that these people are saying on acko drive video stands absolutely null & void
U should also wait for scram450
Himalayan 450❤ . Though I have a access for city 😉
RE Himalayan is the best as per my point of view.
Good one Arun!!! 👌N jehan too!
Himalayan is the winner but 😂😂 this and that no jugad they found for it another hand Triumph scram is not the best of all but you can use aftermarket parts to improve 😂😂.
🌟I Want To Be Politically Correct.......My Height Is 6 Feet, The Compact Dimensions Of Triumph Is Definitely Better For City Use Specially In Pune Traffic😉
But Same Time I Like The Towering Feel Of Himalayan Too(Towering Touring)......I Wish Royal Enfield Offered Tubeless Tyres Right From Day 1.
Things Will Get Really Intresting When We Get New Age Competition From Honda's Upcoming CB 300 Based AVD & Kawasaki's Ninja 300 Based ADV With That Creamy Parallel Twin Cylinder Engine😍👍
Really Like To See Sidharth Sir Doing Any Bike Review👍
6 inches height ???😱😳🤔
@@nileshkolate5350 भाऊ पुण्याचे का.?🤣
#Triumph has no feel. It’s like a 400 cc splendour. Yes it can achieve 140-150cc but in its journey from 0 to 140 it gives no thrill no excitement. Let me put an analogy here. Triumph is like a student who is neither as brilliant as the first boy nor as naughty as the back benchers.
After riding it I call it the “Mellow Fellow “😅
No one talked about the tube tyre... Who will push it 😅...they mentioned it in the last five minutes 😅
Very good, sir.
i did Chennai -Goa .. on highway bike gave me 32-34 milage and then it drops to 23-24 in citi 😞
uhmmmm is this a sister company of powerdrift? our u guys are in a different channel now?
Why so less views in 14 hrs?
Scrambler anyday! ❤
True review guys 🫡 .Nice work .Covered most points on the same video which had found after watching multiple videos.
The new Guerrilla 450
Install Speed 400 break pads and you will feel the bite
The caliper is the same construction as the KTM 390 Duke, Triumph Speed 400 and the Aprilia RS457. The Duke has the best pads, the Speed ones are good, Aprilia are bad. So pick your poison
For me i love the himalayan 450 and others take a flying F.....
Himalayan 👍😎
The CF moto 450mt beat them both easily.
When does it launch?
Scrambler 400x ❤
#RoyalEnfield should launch a beta program. Before launching the actual bike. Perhaps then they can make a good bike. 😅
The scrambler would be better in the city the Himalayan would be better on the open road
14:50
Oh the soul wala guy
X pulse 400
RE fanboys will still justify the huge setback haha
What’s Compahreejann😂😂😂
Himalayan nose dipping on jumps😂
Facke subscribers
So you guys lack skill to ride the Himalayan in low speeds !
This taklo is paid by Himalayan
18:38 didn’t know you were casting the screen! At that point it makes more sense to use a phone mount. 😂
May be I m wrong but I feel royal Enfield parts will be more expensive😢 then triumph.
18:38 didn’t know you were casting the screen! At that point it makes more sense to use a phone mount. 😂