I'm honestly impressed, I think you're the only person I've ever seen having that sort of reaction about Endeavor. Usually when watching this set of episodes everyone has a pretty similar reaction of visceral hate/disgust towards his actions and that's about it. Which yeah, it's fair considering that we don't know anything about him and so far he's been shown as an abusive asshole and a generally unpleasant person to talk to. I think you're the only person I've ever heard saying "Well, in that particular moment he picked the best solution available" Of course it's important to remember that he was the cause of that "particular moment" in the first place, but still. It's interesting that you didn't just say "Wow, what an horrible person" and ended your analysis there but went beyond that.
Yeah, but I disagree with the not evil part. Maybe we have different definitions of evil, but like you said, Endeavor practically drove her to that point through an arranged inescapable marriage and years of physical and mental abuse. I find it difficult to believe the No.2 hero doesn't realize that's wrong but he still did it anyway and for an incredibly selfish and pointless reason. Idk fully, I'll need to wait for more plot on Endeavor to be sure of what I think, but currently, he definitely fits my bill of evil.
Great point. If Endeavor was a more pathological abuser, he might simply have killed her for damaging his masterpiece. In hindsight, it hints at a man who's capable of making rational decisions under all the jealousy. Maybe Endeavor's arc was set up a lot earlier than I thought 🤔
@@Flweem If there's one thing Endeavor is good at is fighting and training people. He might've caused lots of grief and mental trauma to Shoto, but Shoto IS strong because of the training Endeavor forced upon him and I'm pretty sure Endeavor knows how to train someone to their limit without actually seriously injuring their body because that would be counter productive. Yeah he treated Shoto like shit but I'm willing to bet he never actually gave him any lasting physical injury. Endeavor seems like a very "Might makes right" kind of person, he probably thought that as long as Shoto was in good physical condition everything else (his emotions and mental health) didn't really matter. I mean, at the end of the day, the one who actually gave Shoto a permanent scar wasn't Endeavor (I know it's much more complicated than this, but you get my point)
@@leobriccocola8141 I genuinely think we are seeing the end of a slow spiral that has changed him so slowly Endeavour himself really doesn't realise it. He *is* the number two hero, if he wasn't serious about it he wouldn't be here. All those kids, that were "in another world" are no doubt previous attempts of his to produce a child whose quirks are in complete balance. Like Alicia pointed out, their hair has a bit of both, but none of them had that near perfect split down the middle Shoto has. Endeavour has probably been doing this for years, most likely becoming more and more desperate as time went on, willing to put a five year old through the wringer because he has already waited atleast what, maybe decades for Shoto? I imagine he has become more and more cold (heh) and cruel as time went on. He is still a piece of shit for doing all that, but at the same time he clearly isn't doing it because he likes it. I hope they dive deeper into his motivations and not keep him as just this clearly abusive selfish piece of shit with no moral greys.
@@spandanganguli6903 this is the episode i always refer to ppl who just want to hate on Izuku for just being a crybaby. Like, the dude is out there breaking his fingers and arms repeatedly in the span of a few seconds for the sake of his dream and friends. He left that persona behind within the first episodes of season 1.
@animeninja1236 does it count if he gets reset? Like Deku is doing multiple periodic breaks on his bones, where Subaru is getting multiple times but the damage doesn't stack when he resets
2 things about this fight that are so important/I love: 1: Todoroki finally smiling as he forgets about his father for a moment and just has fun with his friend 2: The "thank you" as Todoroki lets his final attack go off - there's so much emotion and relief in it. You can tell just from the way it's said that Deku just made a loyal-ass friend for life
Todoroki smiling is less about him enjoying himself, and more about him showing the quality All Might considers the most important for a hero. To stand up to anything with a smile on your face. Many other characters do this as well, with Deku and Bakugo being the most prominent for obvious reasons
One detail from the manga that the anime always leaves out for some reason is that after Todoroki’s mom came to her senses, she panicked and tried to use her ice to cool the burn, but that just ended up causing his scar to form
Yeah, she wasnt trying to hurt him, the boiling water had little to no effect on that side of his body, she tried using her ice to soothe what she thought was burning, but applying her ice to the hot side if his body is what formed the scar. Todoroki’s mum though suffered a mental break, so she wasn’t exactly thinking straight
Rei needs to be recognised for what she is: barely any better than Enji. He could have been a victim of childhood abuse for all we know, most narcissists are victims of that. Rei is also a victim, but a victim who, thanks to the anime style of holding long on single frames, seems to have known full well it was her son there. Shoto shouldn’t apologise to her. I almost think after that that maybe she deserves Enji. 😢
@@charlieberry7562 We often drastically over estimate our own ability to think rationally in panic; it seems very intentional, and she's definitely responsible for the mistake, but everything points to her being either manic, in psychosis, or both. To say she deserves what she got is really shallow, Shoto doesn't owe her an apology but she most definitely did not deserve being bought as a teenager and forced to watch her children be abused and neglected. You became abusive as a result of abuse, therefore you deserved to be abused; that's not only unreasonable but grossly inhumane especially in the context of children.
Ah this famous episode of Izuku VS Shoto. As you said, the animation was magnificent and it has often been said and appreciated when this episode came out I can assure you. But yes, Izuku breaking his already broken fingers, using his cheek etc etc all to push Shoto over the edge, make him realize that his power is HIM first and foremost, while actually trying to win, that's something. What is "fun" with Izuku and the way he uses his power is that he breaks himself, he is the personification of the hero who sacrifices for others. I've seen a lot of anime and I've rarely seen a hero symbolizing it so much.
so to make things worse: those kids playing outside in todoroki's flashbac? you're right, they ARE related to him. They are all his siblings. Endeavour basically cares jackshit about them because they aren't 'perfect' like shouto is. So they DON'T get the brunt of his abuse and harshness. The implication seems to be endeavour just kept pumping out kid after kid after kid after kid until he got one he deemed the best one and lavished all his attention and will onto him. Todoroki isn't allowed to play with his own brothers and sisters because its 'more important' for him to train and get stronger. And the rest are left alone because they aren't 'important', they don't 'matter', not in endeavours eyes.
Right. They're failed projects in quark eugenics with a woman his family basically bought, iirc. Arranged Quark Marriage, at the very least. Idk about evil, but Endeavor definitely blurs the lines of "good guy".
This fight shook me when I first watched it, the emotions behind it, the animation, everything about it was amazing, this is why season 2 is my second favorite season, but you'll see my number 1 favorite very soon, also there's still one more fight that's really crazy
I am so thankful I recently stumbled onto this channel. You, my dear, are a breath of fresh air with your insight and empathy for the situation of these characters. You have no idea how much I needed this form of analysis right now. Keep being you.👍
Thank you for not immediately jumping onto the hate train of Endeavor. As other commenters have said, most people's reaction is outright disgust and hatred. Yes he does a lot of things wrong, but part of the show is that people can be multifaceted. It's a long way off, but there's a part in particular much later on I'm looking forward to seeing your reaction to (if you know, you know).
Honestly her reaction surprised me, not in a bad way of course, but I found it interesting... But particularly I find it justifiable that most reactions to Endevor are anger, disgust etc. like, he uses money and influence to avoid getting in trouble with the law for domestic violence... he's evil.
@@leprechaun8717 Oh he's not a good guy, don't get me wrong, it's just most people I find refuse to even countenence the idea that there's more to him than that.
Oh god don't say Endeavor and "like a real human" in the same sentence. That just makes him even worse. Good on him for realizing "oh, maybe I have been in the wrong all this time", he still deserves to rot in prison.
I highly appreciate the fact, that in episodes like this they put the name of it in the end. Every one of this episodes have massive turning point in character's development ( ✧Д✧) YES!!
Hey Alicia! I found your channel from your Max0r stuff, but since then your MHA reactions have become a welcome part of my day that never fail to make me laugh and bring me joy. Thanks for all you do!
One of the best episodes of the show IMO, even though there are plenty more. Idk if you'd check out the English dub in the future, but I always loved the VA for Deku saying "IT'S YOUR QUIRK, NOT HIS!" during the big moment.
Sorry for replying to an old comment, but I love that other people also love that line in the dub! It hits me a lot harder, especially the delivery. It gets me choked up every time. It's one of the moments in MHA where I prefer the dub over the sub.
All I’m gonna say is… the further you go into the seasons, the more of a chance that you will cry a lot. So be ready for anything, and I do mean anything.
I can honestly see when Midoriya was powering up his arm as he's about to make a final palm strike, I want it as a gif saying "I AM REQUESTING THE HIGHEST OF FIVES"
Really good point regarding Endeavor sending his wife to a hospital after the incident. He was at fault, but most abusers hitting such a crisis point would probably have either tightened their control even more, or simply killed her for it. You've shed some new light on Endeavor, in retrospect. One notable thing that someone pointed out way back when: if you look at the scene with the kettle, only Shoto's left side is visible through the door. His initial telling of the incident makes it sound like his mother intentionally scarred his left side, but when you look at the situation it seems a lot more likely that his mom, in the moment, thought that Endeavor himself had caught her talking about his abuse and begging for help, and she might have panicked and thrown the kettle at the door. The Todoroki family situation is a bad one. I'll be interested to hear more of your thoughts as the show progresses, and on what it tries to say through its portrayal of the Todoroki dynamic and others!
yoooooo, I never thought about *why* she did it beyond losing her mind (understandably) from abuse. That makes so much sense, though. Her mind's unraveling, she sees more and more of her abuser in her children, and then her half and half kid looks through the door, only his endeavor side showing.
Rei needs to be recognised for what she is: barely any better than Enji. He could have been a victim of childhood abuse for all we know, most narcissists are victims of that. Rei is also a victim, but a victim who, thanks to the anime style of holding long on single frames, seems to have known full well it was her son there. Shoto shouldn’t apologise to her. I almost think after that that maybe she deserves Enji. 😢
making friends in anime be like: Naruto: I'm gonna break all the bones in YOUR body to be your friend!! Deku: I'm gonna break all the bones in MY body to be your friend!!
Like any anime or manga you know they are chapter titles for the most part those for MHA like any normal one appearing at the beginning of the chapters or episodes but on special ones like this one they only appear when thematically appropriate at the end of the episode the title card appears stating that this is his start to his journey and I love just that little added detail further along they'll be more examples of this but this is one of the early ones keep an eye out for it
This episode is called "Shoto Todoroki: Origin". Basically saying this is his start. _This_ is where his story begins and I just think that's beautiful!
so, something i love to point out is that midorya loves to jump towards enemies, and it's a mistake nearly every time. todoroki won because he has the ability to root himself in place, meaning the steam explosion didn't knock him back. midoriya, jumping at todoroki, put himself in the air with no way to brace and was blown away by the steam because of that. also, midoriya never has a landing strategy, his plan goes "jump at opponent, figure something out on the way towards the ground".
Part 3,980,790,165,618,000 of Alicia reading an entire character arc within 2 seconds of meeting a character 🤣 Edit: 2:26 You will get to know all 3 of them plus pink girl because they are what we love to call "The Bakusquad"😂
You have successfully identified one of the purest beans in this show - Kirishima, aka the guy with red hair, sharp teeth, and the ability to harden his skin. If he were in D&D he'd be a Paladin. :D
The problem with Endeavor is that he's so narrow-sighted, like he has his eye on his goal and works to get there, but he didn't stop to think about whether the way he went about it was wrong and the consequences his actions had on his family until it was too late for his eldest son, so then he just doubles down on Todoroki because he doesn't want to admit that he was wrong, either. I honestly knew very little about him before and didn't think I'd like him even in his redemption arc, but I do love the direction they took with it. He's not instantly forgiven, his past comes to haunt him, it's revealed to the public, and he has to face what he did to his oldest son. But even though he was hell on his family, he did save a lot of people and inspire others to become true heroes (Hawks) plus he's a surprisingly good mentor, so you know he had the potential, he was just too obsessed with beating All Might and foced that dream on his kids when he felt he couldn't reach it, and in the end, became No. 1 anyway not because he deserved it but because All Might was forced to retire.
I like how Todoroki's past changed the stakes in this fight, in the end the tournament didn't matter but Midoriya was fighting to help Todoroki to accept himself. This went from a tournament to a therapy session
Information that has been revealed about Endeavor, in ep1 actually, he is a UA alumni like All Might and Best Jeanist, and he holds the record for having resolved more incidents than anyone in Japan, even All Might.
the best part of My Hero is growing with Midoriya. Learning and seeing how he improves. I cant wait for you to get to s3, and 4 and the rest....5 and 6 are Just crazy good.
I think you might know it, but eer since that pokemon episode with flashing colors that sent japanese kids to the hospital there is a limit of how bright some scenes with color can be broadcast in Japan. so the saturation/brightness of the colors for that attack where lowered. But there is a video on youtube that restores it to pre edited state and it looks WAY better
I've always loved Deku going full Goku this episode by forcing his opponent to grow, improve, and power up. But I _especially_ love when Deku does it because rather than his actions steming from a battle hungry, adrenaline junkie nature who just wants the best possible fight, Deku is doing it for his friend. He's pushing himself to and beyond his limits with absolutely everything he's got in order to break through his opponent's trauma and help his friend. To save them. He's simply being the hero Todoroki's so desperately needs in this moment. This is why All Might chose him. And he did a damn good job.
I was laughing my ass off when I was binging your reactions and heard you talk about Todoroki having "daddy issues" and saying "did he hurt your mommy?" I was thinking, "Girl, you are on a roller coaster you are not prepared for. Sit down, buckle up, and hope your bra, belt and seatbelt all stay fasten as you are in for a bumpy ride."
17:47 yes. This fight was about so much more than victory or impressing potential employers: they are backed by the number 1 and 2 heroes so they could have sat this tournament out and got the best hero jobs.
I saw one comment mention this but I wanted to as well. (Not really spoiler cuz it never gets mentioned in the anime) but todoroki's mom emidietly regrets what she does and tries to use her ice to heal him and thats how he gets his scar, from the freeze burn since his left side is resistant to heat the water (i assume don't quote me on this) didn't really burn him that bad so it's really tragic when you think about it
Take note of that the last moment before the end credits. It said "Shoto Todoroki: Origin", this is saying that this moment is the true beginning to his journey as a hero.
And this is where people started calling deku "the absolute madman" Bro shattered and re-shattered his bones over and over just to get a point across, what a lad
It is crazy how Endeavor never get karma for what he done and still manage to become 2nd hero. I'm sorry I still think he deserved jail for tormenting his family
Spoilers: . . . . . . . . . . . For some reason the anime always skips this. But the scar is because Rei tried to cool off the burn with her ice immediately after she burnt him. It's a freeze scar.
No joke, this fight earned Deku the fandom nickname of "THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN!!!" Our precious green bean can get really scary and unhinged when he's throwing hands.
It's so refreshing to see someone actually acknowledge that Endeavor did the right thing with sending his wife to the hospital. So many people just pile on and think he was wrong to even do that. It doesn't help that Endeavor was written way too hard and edgy early on, like what happened with Bakugo (example: Bakugo telling Deku to go kill himself for being Quirkless). Or that more context and such is added later because Todoroki is a trauma baby and even in a shonen show one shonen speech won't fix him (whether that makes you revise your opinion or not is a person to person thing). He's made to be hateable here, but seeing someone notice the parts that are actually good in him rather than only seeing negative from all his actions is super rare. I was binging your stuff, but this is the thing that cemented me hitting the subscribe button.
At first I thought that Endeavor had beaten his wife for what she had done to Shoto. Until i understood what he meant by "sending her to a hospital" i always went thinking endeavor was fucking crazy. Also forgot to comment. This one episode, the one that goes the most hard. Shoto making a fucking chemical reaction with both his powers
Just passing by to say, really good music taste there, that BB reference is golden, I love me some Breaking Benjamin and Blow Me Away was actually the song that got me into them.
The saying is "second place is just first loser", which I always thought was stupid. The first place for losing is whoever is at the bottom of the list.
I think youve spoiled watching most other reaction channels for me with your top tier character analysis as well as your deep emotional attachment to these characters.
I always like the little discussion of Quirks being physical capabilities as well. Though fantastic in nature, quirks are still limited by the user's capabilities. Its part of what makes this hero world so fascinating. Side question: if you could have a quirk what kind of quirk would you have?
Endeavor is a man that has allowed himself to be utterly CONSUMED by obsession and ambition for decades at this point, whatever good intentions he started his hero career with have been twisted and made ugly. I don't think that's a burn mark on Shoto's face, that side of him is adapted to produce heat and flame to a ridiculous degree. Boiling water wouldn't really do anymore than sting pretty badly, I'm pretty sure that discoloration is the kind you get when skin is suddenly exposed to an extreme drop in temperature. Which to my mind means Shoto's mom snapped out of her "episode" and tried to cool down where she poured the boiling water, only she prolly panicked while doing so and over did it.
I've forgotten just how good these episodes were. I'm not a fan of how the anime adapted the manga from a certain season onwards and not really a fan of the last 2 or 3 arcs of the manga but just going back to these episodes really showed what pulled me in to the story and characters. I might have lost interest in MHA over time but season 2 and 3 of the anime was really something. I'm glad you're enjoying it and hope you enjoy it to the latest season.
No joke when Endeavor yells SHOTO! it's like one of my favorite parts of the show. I consistently will go back and watch it just to hype myself up. He may come across as a piece of shit... but he is quite the hype man lol
on top of everything else, deku never got his own quirk, and was literally gifted with someone else's. to hear todoroki, who was able to develop his own quirk naturally, refer to it like it didnt belong to him; i have to imagine that must've really fucked with deku on an existential level too, especially since he can't tell todoroki that
a lot of people misread what endeavor said to shoto. "so i put her in a hospital" can be understood as he beat the shit out of her which he didnt do. i also want to applaud my hero for not going with the easy terrible father, good mother trope. they could have left it at abusive husband and father who beats his kdis and his wife but to go as far as have the mother burn her child with boiling water is something a lot of animes dont do. we are talking mental issues as a result of an abusive relationship that resulted into abusing your child as well. that is more common than people think. w writing
Deku's sociopathic tendency to disregard himself is one of the reasons why many agrees on the AU version of him being a terrifying yet fitting villain😂
That isn’t sociopathic behaviour. Sociopathic characteristics include for example, the lack or little regard to empathy. It’s anti social personality disorder not in the sense that you don’t like people but that you feel more people oriented emotions to an extreme degree which includes less impulse control, manipulative behaviour because of this. Deku is not doing those things because of sociopathic traits that are the extreme of no empathy that he has little value put in other people but the extreme of having so much empathy that he would throw away all self preservation to the point of harming himself. Both are extreme, one being the complete lack of care for other people and the other being the obsession of caring about other people, both are destructive to a certain degree because they are the extreme of both sides of the same coin that they end up looking similar.
2:34 I have literally never given that line any thoughts on my rewatches beyond "probably talking about Endeavor" but oh my god she's talking about Touya here... It's ok for Shouto to be a hero, but not Touya, because of their different quirks.
I don't know if you fully elaborate on this or not. But endeavor didn't put shoto's mom in hospital by hurting her, he means a mental hospital. I wanted to clarify this because a lot of people seem to think that he put her in a different hospital and I'm like what?
You are going to love SO MANY characters in this show. It's one of the reasons I love it. A ton of characters who are compelling in their own ways. Or even must fun to watch. I'm going to let you speculate. Huh, I don't recognize the blonde in the teacher's box. Kiri is the resident positive masculinity of 1A. Bakugo may not know how to interact in a healthy way, but he has decent test scores and a solid grasp of tactics. Deku is smarter, but Bakugo is not an idiot. Yeah.... Midoriya got a really dangerous idea. Bad enough he breaks something with each shot, now he's firing them off again. If you want happy go lucky, do not watch Demon Slayer. I think it's one of the better shonens with My Hero, but it will mess you up emotionally too. We're happy to be back to watching it with you. Dickhead but not evil for committing his wife.... fair enough. This is some of the best animated action in the show. And there are a lot of moments, but they REALLY popped off for this. Helps that a stupid movie wasn't sapping resources away from the main product. Deku could have won, but he's so committed to helping his class mates. Sure, he's not throwing, but he just couldn't let himself wait until after exploiting Shoto's emotional handicap. And like you said, he had to take an L.
Yeah but he did not send her to a hospital to get help because he hurt their son, he sent her away so she could not hurt his creation, his chances at getting number one away from all might. He was not being a good anything.
For the algorithm! My dude deku said 'we all giving everything we got, why you gotta have one hand behind your back in this? We throwing hands here, stop holding back!' Was it smart to rile up your opponent, maybe not. But encouraging a frienemy to embrace their whole power can only lead to a more fullfilling rivalry where each of you brings out the a game so you only improve with each match. Plus Ultra, my guys&gals.
It wasn't a tear on his cheek but sweat or water from the frost buildup melting away. If you think the writing is good now just wait for future episodes.
Rei needs to be recognised for what she is: barely any better than Enji. He could have been a victim of childhood abuse for all we know, most narcissists are victims of that. Rei is also a victim, but a victim who, thanks to the anime style of holding long on single frames, seems to have known full well it was her son there. Shoto shouldn’t apologise to her. I almost think after that that maybe she deserves Enji. 😢
My comment to Endeavor would’ve been “you are the reason number 2 belongs in the toilet”. Otherwise you excellently explained why this is my favorite fight and arc of the early series.
I'm honestly impressed, I think you're the only person I've ever seen having that sort of reaction about Endeavor.
Usually when watching this set of episodes everyone has a pretty similar reaction of visceral hate/disgust towards his actions and that's about it. Which yeah, it's fair considering that we don't know anything about him and so far he's been shown as an abusive asshole and a generally unpleasant person to talk to.
I think you're the only person I've ever heard saying "Well, in that particular moment he picked the best solution available"
Of course it's important to remember that he was the cause of that "particular moment" in the first place, but still. It's interesting that you didn't just say "Wow, what an horrible person" and ended your analysis there but went beyond that.
Yeah, but I disagree with the not evil part. Maybe we have different definitions of evil, but like you said, Endeavor practically drove her to that point through an arranged inescapable marriage and years of physical and mental abuse. I find it difficult to believe the No.2 hero doesn't realize that's wrong but he still did it anyway and for an incredibly selfish and pointless reason.
Idk fully, I'll need to wait for more plot on Endeavor to be sure of what I think, but currently, he definitely fits my bill of evil.
@@leobriccocola8141 evil is an illdefined word. It's reduces things to black and white. You can say someone is 100 % wrong without saying it's evil.
Great point. If Endeavor was a more pathological abuser, he might simply have killed her for damaging his masterpiece. In hindsight, it hints at a man who's capable of making rational decisions under all the jealousy. Maybe Endeavor's arc was set up a lot earlier than I thought 🤔
@@Flweem If there's one thing Endeavor is good at is fighting and training people. He might've caused lots of grief and mental trauma to Shoto, but Shoto IS strong because of the training Endeavor forced upon him and I'm pretty sure Endeavor knows how to train someone to their limit without actually seriously injuring their body because that would be counter productive.
Yeah he treated Shoto like shit but I'm willing to bet he never actually gave him any lasting physical injury. Endeavor seems like a very "Might makes right" kind of person, he probably thought that as long as Shoto was in good physical condition everything else (his emotions and mental health) didn't really matter.
I mean, at the end of the day, the one who actually gave Shoto a permanent scar wasn't Endeavor (I know it's much more complicated than this, but you get my point)
@@leobriccocola8141 I genuinely think we are seeing the end of a slow spiral that has changed him so slowly Endeavour himself really doesn't realise it. He *is* the number two hero, if he wasn't serious about it he wouldn't be here. All those kids, that were "in another world" are no doubt previous attempts of his to produce a child whose quirks are in complete balance. Like Alicia pointed out, their hair has a bit of both, but none of them had that near perfect split down the middle Shoto has. Endeavour has probably been doing this for years, most likely becoming more and more desperate as time went on, willing to put a five year old through the wringer because he has already waited atleast what, maybe decades for Shoto? I imagine he has become more and more cold (heh) and cruel as time went on.
He is still a piece of shit for doing all that, but at the same time he clearly isn't doing it because he likes it. I hope they dive deeper into his motivations and not keep him as just this clearly abusive selfish piece of shit with no moral greys.
Here it is. If I remember correctly, this episode is when My Hero Academia absolutely popped off in terms of popularity, and for good reason.
Makes sense. This is the first time we see that Izsuku is a goddamn madman and that he embodies the concept of Hero even better than All might.
@@spandanganguli6903 "even better" is a bit of a subjective take tbh.
@@madladdie7069 Definitely a mad man though.
@@spandanganguli6903 this is the episode i always refer to ppl who just want to hate on Izuku for just being a crybaby. Like, the dude is out there breaking his fingers and arms repeatedly in the span of a few seconds for the sake of his dream and friends. He left that persona behind within the first episodes of season 1.
And somehow she managed to pause over 20 times through all three key moments.
"In my memories, my mother is always crying..."
Zuko: that's rough buddy.
Deku has easily the trophy for most broken bones. He breaks them like it's a competition
"Deku, please stop, you've already gotten the world record-"
"PLUS ULTRA!!"
Ahh I guess you've never met Subaru from RE Zero 😂
He'd get a "broken bones" bonus star in Mario Party for sure
From accidental to competitive bone breaking
@animeninja1236 does it count if he gets reset? Like Deku is doing multiple periodic breaks on his bones, where Subaru is getting multiple times but the damage doesn't stack when he resets
2 things about this fight that are so important/I love:
1: Todoroki finally smiling as he forgets about his father for a moment and just has fun with his friend
2: The "thank you" as Todoroki lets his final attack go off - there's so much emotion and relief in it. You can tell just from the way it's said that Deku just made a loyal-ass friend for life
And considering the shit that happens later, especially in WHM? Loyal ass friend indeed.
Todoroki smiling is less about him enjoying himself, and more about him showing the quality All Might considers the most important for a hero. To stand up to anything with a smile on your face. Many other characters do this as well, with Deku and Bakugo being the most prominent for obvious reasons
Deku: breaks all fingers.
Todoroki: now, an oppening!
Deku: _I'll fucking do it again!_
That's amazing lmao
One detail from the manga that the anime always leaves out for some reason is that after Todoroki’s mom came to her senses, she panicked and tried to use her ice to cool the burn, but that just ended up causing his scar to form
Holy shit lmao, that’s brutal
Yeah, she wasnt trying to hurt him, the boiling water had little to no effect on that side of his body, she tried using her ice to soothe what she thought was burning, but applying her ice to the hot side if his body is what formed the scar.
Todoroki’s mum though suffered a mental break, so she wasn’t exactly thinking straight
I think it’s because the manga reveals it later rather than here
Rei needs to be recognised for what she is: barely any better than Enji. He could have been a victim of childhood abuse for all we know, most narcissists are victims of that. Rei is also a victim, but a victim who, thanks to the anime style of holding long on single frames, seems to have known full well it was her son there. Shoto shouldn’t apologise to her. I almost think after that that maybe she deserves Enji. 😢
@@charlieberry7562 We often drastically over estimate our own ability to think rationally in panic; it seems very intentional, and she's definitely responsible for the mistake, but everything points to her being either manic, in psychosis, or both. To say she deserves what she got is really shallow, Shoto doesn't owe her an apology but she most definitely did not deserve being bought as a teenager and forced to watch her children be abused and neglected.
You became abusive as a result of abuse, therefore you deserved to be abused; that's not only unreasonable but grossly inhumane especially in the context of children.
The animation of their final blows is honestly a top 10 animation sequence of all time. It's SOOOO good
"Saving your enemy."
If you've been following the most recent chapters of BnHA, you know how significant this line is.
Ah this famous episode of Izuku VS Shoto. As you said, the animation was magnificent and it has often been said and appreciated when this episode came out I can assure you.
But yes, Izuku breaking his already broken fingers, using his cheek etc etc all to push Shoto over the edge, make him realize that his power is HIM first and foremost, while actually trying to win, that's something.
What is "fun" with Izuku and the way he uses his power is that he breaks himself, he is the personification of the hero who sacrifices for others. I've seen a lot of anime and I've rarely seen a hero symbolizing it so much.
so to make things worse:
those kids playing outside in todoroki's flashbac? you're right, they ARE related to him. They are all his siblings. Endeavour basically cares jackshit about them because they aren't 'perfect' like shouto is. So they DON'T get the brunt of his abuse and harshness. The implication seems to be endeavour just kept pumping out kid after kid after kid after kid until he got one he deemed the best one and lavished all his attention and will onto him.
Todoroki isn't allowed to play with his own brothers and sisters because its 'more important' for him to train and get stronger. And the rest are left alone because they aren't 'important', they don't 'matter', not in endeavours eyes.
Right. They're failed projects in quark eugenics with a woman his family basically bought, iirc. Arranged Quark Marriage, at the very least.
Idk about evil, but Endeavor definitely blurs the lines of "good guy".
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To be fair one of said siblings did try to kill Shoto the day they met so it makes sense that Endeavor would try to keep him away from them.
This fight shook me when I first watched it, the emotions behind it, the animation, everything about it was amazing, this is why season 2 is my second favorite season, but you'll see my number 1 favorite very soon, also there's still one more fight that's really crazy
God i have that speech memorized from the dub I love when desu tells him “It’s your quirk not his”
I am so thankful I recently stumbled onto this channel. You, my dear, are a breath of fresh air with your insight and empathy for the situation of these characters. You have no idea how much I needed this form of analysis right now. Keep being you.👍
Thank you for not immediately jumping onto the hate train of Endeavor. As other commenters have said, most people's reaction is outright disgust and hatred. Yes he does a lot of things wrong, but part of the show is that people can be multifaceted. It's a long way off, but there's a part in particular much later on I'm looking forward to seeing your reaction to (if you know, you know).
Honestly her reaction surprised me, not in a bad way of course, but I found it interesting...
But particularly I find it justifiable that most reactions to Endevor are anger, disgust etc. like, he uses money and influence to avoid getting in trouble with the law for domestic violence... he's evil.
@@leprechaun8717 Oh he's not a good guy, don't get me wrong, it's just most people I find refuse to even countenence the idea that there's more to him than that.
@@wittyrevieweryeah there’s more to Endeavor than domestic violence, there’s also child abuse!
@@imaran1303 good for him. He’s still abusive 👍
Oh god don't say Endeavor and "like a real human" in the same sentence. That just makes him even worse. Good on him for realizing "oh, maybe I have been in the wrong all this time", he still deserves to rot in prison.
I highly appreciate the fact, that in episodes like this they put the name of it in the end. Every one of this episodes have massive turning point in character's development
( ✧Д✧) YES!!
Hey Alicia! I found your channel from your Max0r stuff, but since then your MHA reactions have become a welcome part of my day that never fail to make me laugh and bring me joy. Thanks for all you do!
:D oh hell yeah welcome to both channels homie
Lol same
One of the best episodes of the show IMO, even though there are plenty more.
Idk if you'd check out the English dub in the future, but I always loved the VA for Deku saying "IT'S YOUR QUIRK, NOT HIS!" during the big moment.
Same, I was thinking about that line while watching this. It's something that stays in the back of my mind 💨🔥
Sorry for replying to an old comment, but I love that other people also love that line in the dub! It hits me a lot harder, especially the delivery. It gets me choked up every time.
It's one of the moments in MHA where I prefer the dub over the sub.
All I’m gonna say is… the further you go into the seasons, the more of a chance that you will cry a lot. So be ready for anything, and I do mean anything.
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Oh man, I can't wait for her to see AFO vs. All Might. That fight BROKE me
I can honestly see when Midoriya was powering up his arm as he's about to make a final palm strike, I want it as a gif saying "I AM REQUESTING THE HIGHEST OF FIVES"
This is why Deku is a good hero, winning this fight would've been cool, but he saved someone by losing it.
Really good point regarding Endeavor sending his wife to a hospital after the incident. He was at fault, but most abusers hitting such a crisis point would probably have either tightened their control even more, or simply killed her for it. You've shed some new light on Endeavor, in retrospect.
One notable thing that someone pointed out way back when: if you look at the scene with the kettle, only Shoto's left side is visible through the door.
His initial telling of the incident makes it sound like his mother intentionally scarred his left side, but when you look at the situation it seems a lot more likely that his mom, in the moment, thought that Endeavor himself had caught her talking about his abuse and begging for help, and she might have panicked and thrown the kettle at the door.
The Todoroki family situation is a bad one. I'll be interested to hear more of your thoughts as the show progresses, and on what it tries to say through its portrayal of the Todoroki dynamic and others!
The future stuff with toya also sheds light into why the situation with shoto got so worse.
yoooooo, I never thought about *why* she did it beyond losing her mind (understandably) from abuse. That makes so much sense, though. Her mind's unraveling, she sees more and more of her abuser in her children, and then her half and half kid looks through the door, only his endeavor side showing.
Rei needs to be recognised for what she is: barely any better than Enji. He could have been a victim of childhood abuse for all we know, most narcissists are victims of that. Rei is also a victim, but a victim who, thanks to the anime style of holding long on single frames, seems to have known full well it was her son there. Shoto shouldn’t apologise to her. I almost think after that that maybe she deserves Enji. 😢
@@charlieberry7562 yeah she's coo coo
making friends in anime be like:
Naruto: I'm gonna break all the bones in YOUR body to be your friend!!
Deku: I'm gonna break all the bones in MY body to be your friend!!
Like any anime or manga you know they are chapter titles for the most part those for MHA like any normal one appearing at the beginning of the chapters or episodes but on special ones like this one they only appear when thematically appropriate at the end of the episode the title card appears stating that this is his start to his journey and I love just that little added detail further along they'll be more examples of this but this is one of the early ones keep an eye out for it
Fun fact : The OST for the beginning of the fight and Todoroki's flashbacks is called "Kimi no Chikara" which litterally translate to "YOUR power".
This episode is called "Shoto Todoroki: Origin". Basically saying this is his start. _This_ is where his story begins and I just think that's beautiful!
so, something i love to point out is that midorya loves to jump towards enemies, and it's a mistake nearly every time.
todoroki won because he has the ability to root himself in place, meaning the steam explosion didn't knock him back. midoriya, jumping at todoroki, put himself in the air with no way to brace and was blown away by the steam because of that.
also, midoriya never has a landing strategy, his plan goes "jump at opponent, figure something out on the way towards the ground".
Part 3,980,790,165,618,000 of Alicia reading an entire character arc within 2 seconds of meeting a character 🤣
Edit: 2:26 You will get to know all 3 of them plus pink girl because they are what we love to call "The Bakusquad"😂
You have successfully identified one of the purest beans in this show - Kirishima, aka the guy with red hair, sharp teeth, and the ability to harden his skin. If he were in D&D he'd be a Paladin. :D
The problem with Endeavor is that he's so narrow-sighted, like he has his eye on his goal and works to get there, but he didn't stop to think about whether the way he went about it was wrong and the consequences his actions had on his family until it was too late for his eldest son, so then he just doubles down on Todoroki because he doesn't want to admit that he was wrong, either.
I honestly knew very little about him before and didn't think I'd like him even in his redemption arc, but I do love the direction they took with it. He's not instantly forgiven, his past comes to haunt him, it's revealed to the public, and he has to face what he did to his oldest son. But even though he was hell on his family, he did save a lot of people and inspire others to become true heroes (Hawks) plus he's a surprisingly good mentor, so you know he had the potential, he was just too obsessed with beating All Might and foced that dream on his kids when he felt he couldn't reach it, and in the end, became No. 1 anyway not because he deserved it but because All Might was forced to retire.
Yutaka Nakamura is a GOD when it comes to animation like this. We're always eating good when we know he's involved in an episode.
27:39 i love it when todoroki turns into a straight up jet turbine.
I like how Todoroki's past changed the stakes in this fight, in the end the tournament didn't matter but Midoriya was fighting to help Todoroki to accept himself. This went from a tournament to a therapy session
The Dub version of the fight was a big thing as well.
Todoroki: "I... refuse to use my left side..."
Midoriya: "It's your quirk! YOURS! NOT HIS!"
I like how endeavor said “you’ve accepted yourself” like he wanted Shoto to embrace his own power
No not at all, he said that because he sees shoto as his masterpiece and wanted him to embrace HIS own power, endeavors power.
Information that has been revealed about Endeavor, in ep1 actually, he is a UA alumni like All Might and Best Jeanist, and he holds the record for having resolved more incidents than anyone in Japan, even All Might.
Alicia: makes a prediction about Todaroki’s family trauma
MHA fan base: oh, you sweet, poor girl. If only it was that simple
One of the best episodes from earlier seasons. I love their fight so much.
the best part of My Hero is growing with Midoriya. Learning and seeing how he improves. I cant wait for you to get to s3, and 4 and the rest....5 and 6 are Just crazy good.
Dis the episode where the animators knew whats the motto of mha. This fight single handedly boosted mha popularity.
"What the heck is up with ur Class!!" that gets me every time :DD
I think you might know it, but eer since that pokemon episode with flashing colors that sent japanese kids to the hospital there is a limit of how bright some scenes with color can be broadcast in Japan. so the saturation/brightness of the colors for that attack where lowered.
But there is a video on youtube that restores it to pre edited state and it looks WAY better
I've always loved Deku going full Goku this episode by forcing his opponent to grow, improve, and power up. But I _especially_ love when Deku does it because rather than his actions steming from a battle hungry, adrenaline junkie nature who just wants the best possible fight, Deku is doing it for his friend.
He's pushing himself to and beyond his limits with absolutely everything he's got in order to break through his opponent's trauma and help his friend. To save them. He's simply being the hero Todoroki's so desperately needs in this moment. This is why All Might chose him. And he did a damn good job.
I was laughing my ass off when I was binging your reactions and heard you talk about Todoroki having "daddy issues" and saying "did he hurt your mommy?" I was thinking, "Girl, you are on a roller coaster you are not prepared for. Sit down, buckle up, and hope your bra, belt and seatbelt all stay fasten as you are in for a bumpy ride."
17:47 yes. This fight was about so much more than victory or impressing potential employers: they are backed by the number 1 and 2 heroes so they could have sat this tournament out and got the best hero jobs.
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I saw one comment mention this but I wanted to as well. (Not really spoiler cuz it never gets mentioned in the anime) but todoroki's mom emidietly regrets what she does and tries to use her ice to heal him and thats how he gets his scar, from the freeze burn since his left side is resistant to heat the water (i assume don't quote me on this) didn't really burn him that bad so it's really tragic when you think about it
3:53 Oh we will. Most well written character in the show coming through.
Take note of that the last moment before the end credits.
It said "Shoto Todoroki: Origin", this is saying that this moment is the true beginning to his journey as a hero.
Man this is wild to look back on with whats been happening in the manga RN
Endevor is my favorite character in mha!!!!
And this is where people started calling deku "the absolute madman"
Bro shattered and re-shattered his bones over and over just to get a point across, what a lad
It is crazy how Endeavor never get karma for what he done and still manage to become 2nd hero. I'm sorry I still think he deserved jail for tormenting his family
What I find ironic is that his left side gets on fire no issues, but boiling water adds a permanent scar.
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For some reason the anime always skips this. But the scar is because Rei tried to cool off the burn with her ice immediately after she burnt him. It's a freeze scar.
@@RoseOfNightI can get them skipping it as it’s a minor plot hole but it seems really easy to include. Don’t know why they skipped it.
No joke, this fight earned Deku the fandom nickname of "THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN!!!" Our precious green bean can get really scary and unhinged when he's throwing hands.
“Second place is just the first loser”
It's so refreshing to see someone actually acknowledge that Endeavor did the right thing with sending his wife to the hospital. So many people just pile on and think he was wrong to even do that.
It doesn't help that Endeavor was written way too hard and edgy early on, like what happened with Bakugo (example: Bakugo telling Deku to go kill himself for being Quirkless). Or that more context and such is added later because Todoroki is a trauma baby and even in a shonen show one shonen speech won't fix him (whether that makes you revise your opinion or not is a person to person thing).
He's made to be hateable here, but seeing someone notice the parts that are actually good in him rather than only seeing negative from all his actions is super rare. I was binging your stuff, but this is the thing that cemented me hitting the subscribe button.
Alicia has developed JoJo trust issues for anime
This is such an accurate comment LOL
At first I thought that Endeavor had beaten his wife for what she had done to Shoto. Until i understood what he meant by "sending her to a hospital" i always went thinking endeavor was fucking crazy.
Also forgot to comment. This one episode, the one that goes the most hard. Shoto making a fucking chemical reaction with both his powers
Just passing by to say, really good music taste there, that BB reference is golden, I love me some Breaking Benjamin and Blow Me Away was actually the song that got me into them.
Feral Midoriya is a nuke that serves as the shows' super saiyan
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS ENDEVOUR
The saying is "second place is just first loser", which I always thought was stupid. The first place for losing is whoever is at the bottom of the list.
I believe the phrase you were looking for is: Second place is first place for losers.
I think youve spoiled watching most other reaction channels for me with your top tier character analysis as well as your deep emotional attachment to these characters.
I always like the little discussion of Quirks being physical capabilities as well. Though fantastic in nature, quirks are still limited by the user's capabilities. Its part of what makes this hero world so fascinating.
Side question: if you could have a quirk what kind of quirk would you have?
Endeavor is a man that has allowed himself to be utterly CONSUMED by obsession and ambition for decades at this point, whatever good intentions he started his hero career with have been twisted and made ugly.
I don't think that's a burn mark on Shoto's face, that side of him is adapted to produce heat and flame to a ridiculous degree. Boiling water wouldn't really do anymore than sting pretty badly, I'm pretty sure that discoloration is the kind you get when skin is suddenly exposed to an extreme drop in temperature.
Which to my mind means Shoto's mom snapped out of her "episode" and tried to cool down where she poured the boiling water, only she prolly panicked while doing so and over did it.
"Origin" episodes always deliver
I've forgotten just how good these episodes were.
I'm not a fan of how the anime adapted the manga from a certain season onwards and not really a fan of the last 2 or 3 arcs of the manga but just going back to these episodes really showed what pulled me in to the story and characters. I might have lost interest in MHA over time but season 2 and 3 of the anime was really something. I'm glad you're enjoying it and hope you enjoy it to the latest season.
Season 4 had great moments too and the last war arc is solid
"This is not the happy go lucky show I'm used to!"
Season 6 is not the happy go lucky show
No joke when Endeavor yells SHOTO! it's like one of my favorite parts of the show. I consistently will go back and watch it just to hype myself up. He may come across as a piece of shit... but he is quite the hype man lol
on top of everything else, deku never got his own quirk, and was literally gifted with someone else's. to hear todoroki, who was able to develop his own quirk naturally, refer to it like it didnt belong to him; i have to imagine that must've really fucked with deku on an existential level too, especially since he can't tell todoroki that
Deku's true super power has always been his kindness. He saved Todoroki at his own expense.
(But Endeavor can go to heck)
a lot of people misread what endeavor said to shoto. "so i put her in a hospital" can be understood as he beat the shit out of her which he didnt do. i also want to applaud my hero for not going with the easy terrible father, good mother trope. they could have left it at abusive husband and father who beats his kdis and his wife but to go as far as have the mother burn her child with boiling water is something a lot of animes dont do. we are talking mental issues as a result of an abusive relationship that resulted into abusing your child as well. that is more common than people think. w writing
Deku can honestly be terrifying sometimes
Deku's sociopathic tendency to disregard himself is one of the reasons why many agrees on the AU version of him being a terrifying yet fitting villain😂
That isn’t sociopathic behaviour. Sociopathic characteristics include for example, the lack or little regard to empathy. It’s anti social personality disorder not in the sense that you don’t like people but that you feel more people oriented emotions to an extreme degree which includes less impulse control, manipulative behaviour because of this. Deku is not doing those things because of sociopathic traits that are the extreme of no empathy that he has little value put in other people but the extreme of having so much empathy that he would throw away all self preservation to the point of harming himself. Both are extreme, one being the complete lack of care for other people and the other being the obsession of caring about other people, both are destructive to a certain degree because they are the extreme of both sides of the same coin that they end up looking similar.
It was after this episode that Deku rightfully earned the nickname Madman
2:34 I have literally never given that line any thoughts on my rewatches beyond "probably talking about Endeavor" but oh my god she's talking about Touya here... It's ok for Shouto to be a hero, but not Touya, because of their different quirks.
27:40 Yutaka Nakamura is really one of the Goat
So glad I can see your reaction to this episode
I don't know if you fully elaborate on this or not. But endeavor didn't put shoto's mom in hospital by hurting her, he means a mental hospital. I wanted to clarify this because a lot of people seem to think that he put her in a different hospital and I'm like what?
You are going to love SO MANY characters in this show. It's one of the reasons I love it. A ton of characters who are compelling in their own ways. Or even must fun to watch.
I'm going to let you speculate.
Huh, I don't recognize the blonde in the teacher's box.
Kiri is the resident positive masculinity of 1A.
Bakugo may not know how to interact in a healthy way, but he has decent test scores and a solid grasp of tactics. Deku is smarter, but Bakugo is not an idiot.
Yeah.... Midoriya got a really dangerous idea. Bad enough he breaks something with each shot, now he's firing them off again.
If you want happy go lucky, do not watch Demon Slayer. I think it's one of the better shonens with My Hero, but it will mess you up emotionally too.
We're happy to be back to watching it with you.
Dickhead but not evil for committing his wife.... fair enough.
This is some of the best animated action in the show. And there are a lot of moments, but they REALLY popped off for this. Helps that a stupid movie wasn't sapping resources away from the main product.
Deku could have won, but he's so committed to helping his class mates. Sure, he's not throwing, but he just couldn't let himself wait until after exploiting Shoto's emotional handicap. And like you said, he had to take an L.
Yeah but he did not send her to a hospital to get help because he hurt their son, he sent her away so she could not hurt his creation, his chances at getting number one away from all might. He was not being a good anything.
For the algorithm!
My dude deku said 'we all giving everything we got, why you gotta have one hand behind your back in this? We throwing hands here, stop holding back!'
Was it smart to rile up your opponent, maybe not. But encouraging a frienemy to embrace their whole power can only lead to a more fullfilling rivalry where each of you brings out the a game so you only improve with each match. Plus Ultra, my guys&gals.
lets not forget deku has his own trauma from middle school he just uses it differently
Best fight, and great moment for Zu- *ahem* i mean Shouto
Deku be like "*I've* been kicking my ass better than you!"
They don’t show this in the anime, but in the Manga, Rei immediately regretted her actions and tried to use her ice quirk to alleviate Shoto’s pain.
Yes 😭
They do show that later on
2:35 I just now realized the layers behind what the mom said 👀
Yeah every once in a while there is that sudden animated sequence that you say "Yep right here is where all the animation budget was used"
It wasn't a tear on his cheek but sweat or water from the frost buildup melting away.
If you think the writing is good now just wait for future episodes.
It's cool to get that real acknowledgement from Bakugou that Uraraka's debris gambit pushed Bakugou to his max output.
The greatest high five in history.
That animation cut is from the Legendary Yutaka Nakamura
So my main argument against it being a tear is Todoroki was too in the moment unless that's happy tears its definitely not a tear
Rei needs to be recognised for what she is: barely any better than Enji. He could have been a victim of childhood abuse for all we know, most narcissists are victims of that. Rei is also a victim, but a victim who, thanks to the anime style of holding long on single frames, seems to have known full well it was her son there. Shoto shouldn’t apologise to her. I almost think after that that maybe she deserves Enji. 😢
This fight is still one of my favorite fights, because of the feelings
My comment to Endeavor would’ve been “you are the reason number 2 belongs in the toilet”.
Otherwise you excellently explained why this is my favorite fight and arc of the early series.
Glad someone understood mental hospital everyone i see thinks he beat her so bad she was hospitalized
I’m happy that you see a somewhat goodness to endeavor unlike most. This episode to me is such a big highlight of the whole series
Deku... proving that self-harm is sometimes a good thing?