Panasonic FV-0511VK2 & FV-0511VKL2 Ventilating Fan Install
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- In this video we show you some of the tricks of installing these Panasonic FV-0511VKL2 and FV-0511VK2 fans. These are a little trickier to install than your standard cheap-o fan, so Perry from Done Right Electric helped me out to do this properly. Hopefully this can help some of you in the future as you install these fans. They are pretty awesome for the price, and in my opinion, well worth it for moving fresh clean air.
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The mounting bracket is actually supposed to be used in both new construction and a retrofit installation. It folds to allow it to fit up in the hole through the drywall, then unfolds and should be screwed to framing. This allows the fan to be secured on two sides, as opposed to one side like you did. These are large heavy fans and should be mounted firmly.
You are correct. If people are going to make a video on how to install something such as this fan then the person installing it should understand how it works.
Agree. That’s what you get for hiring an “expert”
Yep. I just installed one and it was a dream compared to what I saw depicted online. The exhaust port and junction box assembly slides off for retrofit installation. I had solid ducting, so I removed the exhaust flap and foil taped the connection from the inside of the ducting. Pleasantly surprised.
This guy doesn’t understand how this fan is installed.
@@danbrown3460 which guy is "this guy"? The OP video or the top level comment from @havinfun7360?
Perry reminds me of my dad, makes electric seem like magic. Good on Perry for forcing Matt to understand the system.
same, my dad always does things the old way and usually has to re-do them also
Perry is so good on camera and is great at explaining things. I have a feeling he could create a very successful UA-cam channel.
I was thinking the exact same thing. I learned a lot from him in this video. I was sub to his YT channel!
haha yeah same here, would def look at all their videos :D
Been noticing that Japanese appliances and home products are expensive but man they're quality. They have freaking smart toilets and bathtubs.
The metal mounting bracket is for new and retrofit. The electrician doesn't know when he's talking about. You install the folding bracket between your ceiling joists then attach your ducts to the Panasonic duct assembly. Then the housing box lays flat on drywall, screwed through the drywall and into the metal bracket, then you mount the motor and hookup electrical harness.
Official Panasonic Install Video:
ua-cam.com/video/jCdGBiMU_p4/v-deo.html
You can use this in a remodel with the bracket. The trick is that the vent coupling and electrical box comes off. You then wire/duct that part first. Then the fan part will slide back into it and against the bracket. The instructions have a real brief area mentioning it. I missed it a first but caught it on second glance.
Yep, that’s how I installed mine
That’s how I had to install mine and it’s new construction
This video was crazy helpful for a lot of reasons. However, digging into this model fan a bit, it looks like you should be able to install the mounting bracket on a remodel and insert the box without attic access.
The reason the mounting bracket bends is so that you can insert it through a drywall hole that's only big enough for the box. The metal plate that has the junction box and vent hookup on it, which would block you from sticking the box up into a box-sized hole, comes off and can be mounted before the rest of the box.
It looks like you're meant to mount the bracket into the empty hole, connect your wiring and vent pipe to the detached hookup panel, install that to the mounting bracket, and THEN install the rest of the box up into the hole.
I haven't actually done this yet, but I'm basing this off of videos on the "Panasonic Business Solutions" youtube channel, and the amazon product listings for these fans, which show the bracket installation and removable hookup panel.
Just thought I'd mention this before anyone else is intimidated by these fans, or rips their hair out trying to get them in through the attic. :)
You would think theses guys would have read the Panasonic installation instructions, but they didn't. I had one of these fans installed as a retrofit in an older home and we did use the bracket and the instructions covered that.
Weatherization installed mine n never left any paperwork.
Sounds like an "I've been installing these for thirty years" situation
15:05 NOOOOOOO the bracket is used 100% used in the retrofit. the bracket slides open to be secured to your framing members which you can reach through the pre cut hole and you dont slide it down onto the bracket, you push it up into the bracket and then bolt the fan casing to the bracket for rigidity. Attach bracket to wood frame, slide in fan housing, then the fan, then the cover.
It's not as powerful as I thought it would be, but it works very well. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxGjG43--gYqIoT4Xkur2PqCrtbKwTv2h There are three options to circulate air, and best of all a remote control for us lazy people. Installation was a breeze (no pun intended). It actually took longer to open the box then it did putting the side extenders on and sitting it in the window opening. It's a perfect alternative when you want airflow, but not the AC. Just might order another one for a different room. UPDATE: Bought another one like I said. They work great. Why not have two...
YO Matt, you need a new handy man. You can DEFINITELY push the box up. The system is basically modular, and you can it all apart and slide everything into place as a retrofit. That system can definitely be installed when there is a room above.
The bracket is for both new Contruction and old Contruction.
You just have to disconnect the air output.
Thank you So Much for explaining the settings! I had the 24/7 fan turned up all the way and the switch fan turned down to 50. It makes no sense that they have the timer next to the 24/7 fan. 🤦🏼♀️ The constant sound was driving us crazy!
Panasonic has fans that are like this one, easier to install in new construction, and they have models for retrofit. At my house I first bought one like the one in the video and hired an electrician, he was so pissed to install it, said it was the hardest fan ever. Then on the other bathroom I bought the retrofit model and installed myself, it was a piece of cake. On the retrofit model you slide the brackets through the hole, then extend it and attach the bracket to the joist. Then the silver part of the fan with the outlet and electrical connection comes off of the black part and you mont that to the bracket. Then finally slide the black part in and connect the harness that comes from the electrical box. Then drive a couple of screws that hold the black portion of the case to the bracket and you're done. Very easy.
Perry reminds me of my electrician. He likes to work on stuff hot as he told me "once you get lit up once, you make sure you never get lit up again" He made me laugh telling me that but dam, he gets stuff done right and like Perry he tells you how and why hes doing stuff.
These are awesome. The thing I don’t like is the 2005 era builder grade looking covers that you have to look at. Reminds me of the junk that’s in my house. Wish they had a little more of a modern look. Functionality may be worth the aesthetic sacrifice though.
Omg after finishing this video once you were in the garage I realized this is obsessed garage channel 😂 I fallow pan the organizer and remember him touring your place not too long ago. Was wondering why you looked so familiar.
I recently swapped all 3 of my bathroom vents with Panasonic models. They're so quiet I always forget I had them on. I've been setting 30 min. timers on my Echoes to remind me I've got to turn them off. Also, Panasonic was the only one still making quiet fans for 2x4 walls. My installer was really impressed with them and asked me for the brand and model numbers.
Do you close your bathroom doors also? Since they are whole hose ventilation I've wondered if most times doors need to be open.
@@RedRose4141I do keep the door closed while venting but only after going no. 2 😂 After shower, I vent with the doors opened
Awesome level of detail, you’re right just going to show my electrician and save big bucks.
the best quiet fan ever! love panasonic whisper
You should put wago connectors anytime you deal with crappy wire nuts
This guy is great, fun character addition to OG
Those Panasonic fans are awesome. I have them in my house. They work like a champ.
In this situation he is using the white wire as a hot. He has rewire the circuit in the attic junction box to make it so. You see, In the electrical code it is permissible, under an exception, to utilize a white wire as a hot but only if it feeds a switch. You may never use a bare copper or green wire in any circumstance for anything other than a ground as it is not a current carrying conductor, but the white can become a hot if used in a switch. The red wires, for this fan, may be used to manually control High/Low CFM. When the switch is toggled “ON” than the CFM is in “High” mode, whereas in the off or down position the fan is on “Low” CFM mode. The red wires are low voltage wires only and Panasonic warns not to apply 120V to these specific wires. The electrician may place the switch for the low voltage red wires anywhere, which to me screams… use a “Shelly Switching Device” which would allow you to change the CFM with your phone… from anywhere. OOOOOH BOY! That is DA BOMB! Heck you could install the same type of Shelly device to turn lights on and off at your house too… using your phone… and do it from anywhere in the world… if your phone gets a signal. WOW!🙀.
All in your looking at $400 now with fan a module upgrades. Now offered with Wifi to connect to the Panasonic home ventilation ecosystem.
FV-0511VKSL3 - 30 to 110 CFM 4" or 6" Duct
Instead of This Old House we now have Obsessed House. I can see Matt wearing a plaid flannel shirt.
thanks a lot. as you said this is a helpful video to give to the contractor luckily I'm halfway through installing 4 of these in my house.
Perry's electrical knowledge is impressive and all, but he absolutely mystified me with using the tab on the tape measure to mark the drywall. Here I was struggling to hold the tape measure in place while trying to make a mark with a pencil...
I made a quick video for you about my central vac. I also went down this whisper select road and made videos on my house channel when we built the house a few years ago. I'm still watching your video and haven't got to the switches yet but I ended up ordering special lutron timer switches with neutral wires for the select fans to work properly.
I wish you had posted something about this prior to just filming the video and installation. I had a similar situation but solved it myself. I use 12 volt DC "computer fans" which are DESIGNED to run 24/7/365. I mounted them outside my home in water prof boxes so there is no noise at all inside. The box they are mounted in are connected into the house - hence they extract air. Because the system run s on 12 DC all I need do is to run 12 transformer leads to the motors (very safe). Because the fans are DESIGNED to run forever, they have been operating for 24 years with only one replacement ($10 bucks each) . I keep a back-up just in case one craps out and I then will get another backup to store. I also installed two fresh air inlet vents so that fresh air can enter the home. Because the computer fans move less air than the Panasonic, air conditioning and heating is virtually unaffected. I also have the same Panasonic "bathroom ceiling fan" you just installed and while it runs OK I dislike the noise - it is not as quiet as they say if you need to listen to it all day and night.The Panasonic unit is now only used as an ordinary bathroom fan as one would normally use it for. I also dislike the fake looking LED light it gives off but there is at present no replacement bulb unit that is warmer.After "Professionals" said they could not improve on a store bought ceiling fan THAT is when I decided to solve the problem myself - works like a charm for over 24 years! If your Panasonic fans don't work out - contact me and I'll be more specific.
I used to laugh heartily at the "old man pee pee" type comments and now I'm up at 4am to pee every damn night. 😂
I hooked my nightlight up to the power switch, so I could tell when it's running..
These are legit, just installed on in my bathroom, no stink ! 🤣🤣
Lot's of good comments but this was not properly installed. The mounting bracket should have been used. It folds to go in the hole and has four screws to be secured to the studs. The vent should be removed from the fan assembly, wired and installed and the assembly should be installed and secured to the bracket last.
I installed three of the retrofits, like butta installation, follow the instructions!
Love these videos and Perry. Thanks, Matt!
I await your $4000 Toto washlet toilet install videos.
LMAO!!!
Lol always use bracket , i do remodels and I always use the bracket with that huge 10” hole you get plenty of room to screw it in 😂
I wish you had uploaded this about a week ago! haha I just installed switches and fixtures... the tips and tricks in this video were great! Thanks Matt
Your electrician is wrong about the installation process.
The instructions are clear about installation.
I don’t think they understood it.
Thanks for the review Matt!
Just ordered a Panasonic Whisper Choice today : )
When is Perry making a YT channel?! 😅
RE: stranded speaker wires - You don't want any DC on speaker wires! he was just pulling your leg.
for the quietest fan, you need a panasonic whisperline remote mount in-line fan. the only bad thing about it is that is hard to tell if it is on.
Matt why didn’t you get a ERV?
It would of met all you needs and you would of never heard it. And takes care of the fresh air to keep the pressure in the home equal.
I can swap a switch/outlet or do a simple run of outlets...but when it comes to switching and all of these details...I'm as mystified as you are Matty. I like to think I'm a smart guy, but good electricians make me feel like I'm 5 years old.
This fan is designed for retrofit applications where there is no attic access. Just read the instructions.
panasonic appliances are legit
Have you considered Veent smart fans? I'm running one in my ensuite with a 6" duct and it's probably the best upgrade for any bathroom. The app allows you to forego all those analog switches in the fan. Who wants to go up there with a step ladder to make adjustments when you can do it from a smartphone? It also acts as a night light when all the lights are the lights are turned off.
I feel about this video how I felt about the original Rupes event videos. Just so much knowledge in a way that seems so simple and so logical but that I never would have figured out myself. One of my favorites.
I've got those in my new build. They're nice.
I watch videos like this and end up feeling like Neo when he's plugged into the chair getting kung fu downloads.
I made this mistake of getting the 190cfm version for my basement bathroom since the steam would get so bad. They only had a 3” vent tube to atmosphere. So this thing backpressures like crazy. Had to reduce it down from a 5.5” Outlet to a 3”. Lol
Matt - I can't believe you haven't done all Lutron Claro screwless plates. I just did the whole house and it really tickles the ole' OCD.
My builder installed this exact fan without the add on modules. I bought the multi speed module and installed it but it doesn’t work. So I’m thinking it’s a wiring issue but I have no idea what I’m looking for electrical wise.
I'd watch "Perry teaches electricity" videos all day!
How do i know the specifics of the night light bulb? Please help its something i need ASAP PLEASE as I'm putting orders in on Amazon today. Thank you
Are the up to code?
@@wayneguy6043 pretty sure it's a joke because of all the HOA stuff Matt has dealt with.
Those wire nuts you use in the US are very sketchy 😬 You should be using WAGO connectors.
Wagos allegedly don’t do as well with the big temperature fluctuations we get in the US.
@@peterdevries3602 Allegedly. ua-cam.com/video/B1pmuRsf1co/v-deo.html Here is a good video about that.
Well he got it installed but not correct for retrofit. You do use the bracket. You don't need attic access since one screw allows the box and duct to slide off. But thank you for the clarification on the red wires. The instructions are terrible and say On to use pick a flow setting and Off to use multi-speed settings. Doesn't say anything about motion or condensation modules so since I want to use pick a flow when motion is detected I connected them together. Going to have to bring the fan back down and disconnect them.
People on saturday enjoy their saturdays. Heres my crazy ass watching an hour long video of a bald man show us the installation process of a ventilating fan. Obsessed I is.
You did not show how the main chassis is mounted in the ceiling, it just magically appeared.
Probably the most expensive unnecessary poop fan he could find. I think he would make a killing if he made an obsessed house chanel
Great video, can you provide a link for the systems bringing the air into the house?
Great electrian awesome fans
I want my light and night light working. What night light do I order for it?
How has this been working for you? Did you notice a large increase in your energy costs? I just installed one for our house it runs at 30 CFMs already the humidity came way down in the house.. I was fighting high humidity levels in the winter time.. last night it was below freezing and there was no moisture on the windows in the house which was the case before the installation..
A big info is missing in this video. We should've hear the "quietness", we didn't hear the fan !
Space Trash! I laughed so hard when Matt said that. 🤣
"On today's episode of This Obsessed House..."
If I ever have the opportunity for the This Old House crew to build my home, I'm demanding an OG garage segment.
Just wondering by adding fresh air to a home , you are bring in pollen,etc if there is a way to filter that air ?
Somebody’s getting a hell of a deal for this house when Matt decides to sell
13:56 old homes and condos definitely don't have above-ceiling access
Where did you get the humidity module? All I can find is a non-adjustable condensation module.
The manually adjustable module is no longer available.
Thanks for the response! I wounder why they made that decision..@@ObsessedGarage
Do you have a whole house water filter yet? Video on that? Video was high quality by the way
Thanks for doing this. I found this incredibly helpful which is why I always honor the source regardless. Great resource for viewers. Wish you sold the fans.
Not sue why you removed the guts from the housing.... just pop the old fan out AND REMOVE IT (hacks will leave it in the attic) place the mounting bracket in the hole, wire and attach the face plate to the bracket and slide the entire fan assembly up and screw it in. Maybe 30 min work... 45 tops...
Can you please send me a link to the switch for the one without the light? Thanks.
Does Perry have an equally good brother in Miami? Would love someone like him down here for electrical work.
you spoiled brat! i absolutely love it. Thanks Matt
If you're constantly exchanging air, are you dumping your conditioned air out of the house?
You are, but fresh air needs to be introduced.
@@ObsessedGarage Are you running an ERV? I'm debating one on my retro build. Love your channel - bought my swisstracks from you.
Where is the air intake for the house? How is that setup?
Who designed this HVAC system? You're constantly exhausting conditioned air from inside the house? Why not just get an HRV?
@ObsessedGarage
Being as obsessed as you are you should look into Aria Vent covers it flushes the look into the ceiling so you don’t see a ugly looking grille they make an exhaust fan model fantastic product I became addicted put em all thru the house painted covers to match wall and ceiling colors blows people away they scratch a bald spot on they’re head when I explain what and how they work I modified and fabbed my covers to use the Panasonic light and sensors along with them
I'll check that out.
Wish we had those easy plywood ceilings here in our country, cause all of them are concrete
Perry is a real one 👌🏼
This is not right. You actually don’t need attic access with this one, that’s what that bracket is for.
Love this guy!
Use the cardboard template to get the hole size, wow....
How to replace the bulb
Check the solution from Rensom. Called Health box.
THE RULE OF 72
How do you completely shut this off???
You purchase the time delay module that allows you to time it out.
@@ObsessedGarage Thank you
Perry is great!
Wow. The guy in the green shirt really has no idea what he's talking about. Weird
Those boxes are installed so poorly, total violation of setback etc. why are the boxes not fixed, they are floating around? house was wired by clowns
Oy vey, use Wagos, and the bracket is so the unit slides up from the bottom. The flex bracket works great, retrofit made easy. Follow the directions. Ya take the duct wiring box side off as a separate slide up into the hole, it snaps back together, this electrician is cluless
The cardboard is to make the new hole size correct, its plainly written on it. Always use the supplied bracket, it's meant for retrofit, oy vey....follow the instructions
I think I’m seeing steam come off of Matty’s head!
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