The Great Bootleg so Mario 2 (Beta) --> DDP --> Mario 2 --> Mario USA Or, to put more steps in Mario 2 (Prototype) --> DDP (Beta) -> DDP --> Mario 2 --> Mario USA (Beta) -> Mario USA This is a call for help.
Yep, Miyamato wanted to experiment with vertical scrolling after the success of side-scrolling Super Mario Bros (which was not the first side-scrolling game but perhaps the first side-scrolling platformer).
Fun fact: The top half of Mario’s body for the idle animation (including the arms) are nearly the same as SMB3 and the body for the second walk frame is the same as SMB3
I didn't find out that Doki Doki Panic started as a Mario prototype until very recently. And also I was just about to leave this video without hitting that Like button so I had to come back
@@Estlib your wrong, Yomi kojo doki doki panic proto type was Super mario bros.2 that toss vegtable plan to be release in Japan in 1986, but in short notice Nintendo of japan got approche by Fuji TV to make a mario like game to be ready before the festival to be release early 1987, Nintendo of Japan did not have time to make another game from scratch, so they simply slap Doki Doki panic character instead of the mario character, and made a Story with it, and they call it Yomi kojo Doki Doki panic release as flopy disk for the Disk system in Early 1987, but back then in arround 1986, because Super Mario Bros.2 was change to Doki Doki panic, they got no Super Mario Bros.2 and they where in a rush to make one to still be release in 1986, so they took VS. Super mario bros. and used that to make Super Mario Bros.2(lost levels) and they twick the mechanic and the visual, and they used betta version of the level that where to hard for Vs. Super Mario bros. And put them in Lost Levels by retwicking them, and the new level that appear in VS. Super Mario to prevent repeats, and the one that was to easy originally return for Super Mario Bros.2J(lost levels) but modified to incoperated the jumping further mechanic. and the High bounce on enemie you can jump on. Since that was to hard for the west, Nintendo of Japan had no choice to used the Proto type of Doki Doki panic as the West Super Mario Bros.2, they had to twick it to hide the fact that it was officially doki doki panic so they change the lamp to the potion, slow down the waterfall(minimize epeleptic seizure) change the character face, into a 1-up mushroom change the heart container to a mushroom, and change the sub space to the original Super Mario bros. Theme, and change the starman to the original starman theme from Super Mario bros. Change the severed head to a shell, and change the carriable clown face into mushroom block, so it his not deceptive. Japan finially got the proto type of Doki Doki panic after Super Mario Bros.3 as a family computer Cartridge re-name Super Mario Bros. USA. The Western where suppose to receive Super Mario bros. the lost levels as a cartridge release for the NES after Super Mario bros.3 but since lost levels was never made into a cartridge by the time they would make it as a cartridge with the save battery inside, we would have got it already for Super Nintendo Super Mario All-stars. so they scrap the NES version of Super Mario bros. the lost levels again.
@@SuperNickidDokie Dokie Panic/this Mario 2 also had more work done on it by the Mario Development team then they did on Mario 2 Japan/Lost Levels that's why that one is just a level edit not a new game like this or Mario 3
Seems like this game is basically the midpoint of Doki Doki Panic's Mariofication, since some things have been changed (e.g. the characters, some of the music), but other things are still DDP's (like the lamps and the lack of animation in most places). Kinda wish they woulda kept the underworld theme (makes it feel more true to Mario), but at least it showed up again in SMB3. Pretty nifty stuff here!
So no eye whites, Luigi’s feet don’t move so rapidly, faster water falls, lamp door, pre SMB3 under ground music, slight variation of the star music, plain slots, different ending. Still wish Nintendo would retire bowser and the mushroom kingdom for a newer adventure based on this Mario game. Or at least a 3D open world remake of this. Maybe watt escapes the dream world and takes over. The closest we got was the super Mario advance 4 (smb3 with added smb2 features)
@Comedy Room yeah, it’s kinda weird that Japan got copped out of getting SMB2 in its original form until 1992 and instead got something different and a harder version of SMB1 while we pretty much got the real thing
The prototype themes are more different. 1. The underground theme sounds a bit the same like super mario bros. 3 2. The invincibility theme also sounds like super mario bros. 3 invincibility. More differences: 1. Mario's eyes do not have an eye white, in the full release of the sequel, he has eye white. 2: the bonus screen is different than the original, 3. The cherries are not moving, and many other items are not moving. 4. The water is moving more faster than the full release, I think. There are many differences to the prototype.
Oh yeah, and the end screen after the contributor or prize money screen, Doki Doki Panic: Scene where the twins are rescued and ma, pa, imajin and lina come out of the book and "the end" in Japanese comes on screen in the top right corner. After you set the correct side of the disk, you can play again. SMB2 prototype: A bland blue screen with "THE END" in the center. Press Start and you're back at the title screen. SMB2: There's a cast roll, and the scene is Mario in bed. After the cast roll, "The End" is being written in cursive at the top right. The game is soft locked when this happens.
If only Nintendo of America would let Super Mario Bros. The Lost Levels be in America, This game would’ve never existed as Super Mario Bros. 2. And, DDP would still exist (probably making games to this day)
Well some say that DDP was originally going to be a Mario game early in development. However, I doubt the prototype shown in this video is what they're referring to.
@@RareGraySunflower DDP did definetely start as a Mario Prototype, but this isn't that same Prototype, as this prototype was on cartridge and not disk. This is likely when they were re-inserting the Mario assets for release outside of Japan.
in the normal version of super mario bros 2 marios eyes are not looking like that in the prototype version so the driffrent things are the loud drums the other menu thing and marios eyes
This looks like a mid-way production of modifying from Doki Doki Panic to the final version of SMB2. The running feature was not added yet, which DDP doesn't have. Also, the subspace (magic space) "kettle," fast waterfalls that nearly give people epilepsy, and the "prize money" at the end are also from DDP. Also, I was playing this version on OpenEMU, and I found that some parts are laggy. Is this because of the ROM itself, like the performance issue from the ROM? Or just my computer?
@Famulator: I think that Frickzoid meant the prize Wining 500,000$ they remove that from both Doki Doki panic, and the West official Super Mario bros 2. to prevent false advertising, and also to prevent someone from actually believing that he win that amount as real cash by just beating the game.
@@mikefolknation2851 While SMB2 and the Japanese release of SMB3 were in the same month and year, I highly doubt that these assets are actually from SMB3. DDP started out as a Mario Prototype, so it could be very likely that these were the assets used then.
@@mikefolknation2851 The first Mario 2 Prototype was shelved around 1986, so there is completely no way that they used SMB3 graphics, come on, it's just connecting the dots.
@@mikefolknation2851 1. Yes, it did start off as a Mario Prototype, but was repurposed for DDP and 2. Super Mario Bros 3 wasn't delayed for a U.S release cause "it didn't make sense to release a 3rd game without the 2nd" it was cause of cartridge shortages at the time. Jeez do some research.
I rather prefer the way this one ended, without showing it being Mario's dream. Other than that, the unlimited continues, and flexibility with characters, I largely prefer the final version...
While the official released version of SMB2 is 257KB, this demo version is only 128KB,and while it is true that most objects and tile sets are not animated and the fact that is has no propper ending among other things,but it still blows my mind that it is only 128KB in size,but that’s a good thing because i can play it on GBA movie play via pocketnes, and i consider this demo version waaay better then the official released version because this version really feels more like a mario game,all because it contains the more kickass action pased underground tune😁😁🙏🙏👍
I like everything about this version. Except the fact you can’t run, and peach looks creepy as hell in this, and toad still actually has feet in this prototype.
ArzMario: That his basicly what Super mario bros.2 would have look like an sound like if Yomi kojo doki doki panic never existed as a game, and also that would have cost Super Mario Bros. The lost level to never exist. So which super mario bros. game we would have got if Super Mario bros. the lost level never existed. Maybe Hudson soft Super Mario bros. Special recreated for a console game.
DDP started out as a Mario Prototype that explored vertical scrolling but was eventually shelved. They had to release a sequel so they just decided to re-skin SMB1 and add the levels from Super Mario Bros. VS. When they were making DDP, they decided to get that Mario Prototype again and rework it. When it came time to finally release a new Mario game in the west, they reinserted the Mario assets with some minor changes. Yeah, you have a lot of details wrong.
@@bluepikman7851: Then explain why the Family computer mini classic edition does not have Super mario bros 2 Japanese version, they still put Super mario bros. 2 from the US in the Family computer mini classic edition, as their Super mario bros.2 as well, so the only way to get Super mario bros. the lost levels 8 bit version in both NES mini classic edition, and/or Family computer mini classlic edition his to Download a Rom of it, and Downloading the Family computer disc system Ram adapter, that his pne of the reason I did not buy the NES mini, and neither Family computer mini.
But in fact you can't change the music of original smb2/smbusa by using any tools(as far as i know),also some scenearies like the ending of the game,slot machine or else can't be changed by using any tools,too. So I prefer to say it's an actual prototype rather than say it's a rom hack
@@SebunNeko you're such an idiot dude. You can hack in to the files of ANY game if the person has the know how. There's smb3 rom hacks. Don't say shif when you're nothing but clueless about it. Plus why would I believe someone with the name "ThechinesecraftYT oxo"
Someone this bad at the game should not upload video of themselves playing. It's just too frustrating to watch. I don't expect people to play perfectly, or at expert level even, but this is just terrible.
![[TAS] NES Super Mario Bros. 2 "warpless" by Aglar & andrewg in 18:29.26](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Usov0Eo8eqU/mqdefault.jpg)
it's surprising seeing how many people don't know that DDP started out as a Mario prototype.
Yeah but I think this came after Doki, seeing as it's an NES ROM and not an Disk.
I knew that!
The Great Bootleg so
Mario 2 (Beta) --> DDP --> Mario 2 --> Mario USA
Or, to put more steps in
Mario 2 (Prototype) --> DDP (Beta) -> DDP --> Mario 2 --> Mario USA (Beta) -> Mario USA
This is a call for help.
Yep, Miyamato wanted to experiment with vertical scrolling after the success of side-scrolling Super Mario Bros (which was not the first side-scrolling game but perhaps the first side-scrolling platformer).
The Great Bootleg including the irate idiot (irate gamer) who says that smb2 felt nothing like a Mario game
damn that underground theme is amazing
Both that and the prototype Starman music returned in SMB 3.
The Underground theme too
@@Alex-zl2hf wrong
@@MauveDash wrong it did. Just only half of it.
Fun fact: The top half of Mario’s body for the idle animation (including the arms) are nearly the same as SMB3 and the body for the second walk frame is the same as SMB3
I didn't find out that Doki Doki Panic started as a Mario prototype until very recently.
And also I was just about to leave this video without hitting that Like button so I had to come back
its the other way around, doki doki panic was converted into a mario game for western audiences
@@Estlib your wrong, Yomi kojo doki doki panic proto type was Super mario bros.2 that toss vegtable plan to be release in Japan in 1986, but in short notice Nintendo of japan got approche by Fuji TV to make a mario like game to be ready before the festival to be release early 1987, Nintendo of Japan did not have time to make another game from scratch, so they simply slap Doki Doki panic character instead of the mario character, and made a Story with it, and they call it Yomi kojo Doki Doki panic release as flopy disk for the Disk system in Early 1987, but back then in arround 1986, because Super Mario Bros.2 was change to Doki Doki panic, they got no Super Mario Bros.2 and they where in a rush to make one to still be release in 1986, so they took VS. Super mario bros. and used that to make Super Mario Bros.2(lost levels) and they twick the mechanic and the visual, and they used betta version of the level that where to hard for Vs. Super Mario bros. And put them in Lost Levels by retwicking them, and the new level that appear in VS. Super Mario to prevent repeats, and the one that was to easy originally return for Super Mario Bros.2J(lost levels) but modified to incoperated the jumping further mechanic. and the High bounce on enemie you can jump on. Since that was to hard for the west, Nintendo of Japan had no choice to used the Proto type of Doki Doki panic as the West Super Mario Bros.2, they had to twick it to hide the fact that it was officially doki doki panic so they change the lamp to the potion, slow down the waterfall(minimize epeleptic seizure) change the character face, into a 1-up mushroom change the heart container to a mushroom, and change the sub space to the original Super Mario bros. Theme, and change the starman to the original starman theme from Super Mario bros. Change the severed head to a shell, and change the carriable clown face into mushroom block, so it his not deceptive. Japan finially got the proto type of Doki Doki panic after Super Mario Bros.3 as a family computer Cartridge re-name Super Mario Bros. USA. The Western where suppose to receive Super Mario bros. the lost levels as a cartridge release for the NES after Super Mario bros.3 but since lost levels was never made into a cartridge by the time they would make it as a cartridge with the save battery inside, we would have got it already for Super Nintendo Super Mario All-stars. so they scrap the NES version of Super Mario bros. the lost levels again.
@@SuperNickidDokie Dokie Panic/this Mario 2 also had more work done on it by the Mario Development team then they did on Mario 2 Japan/Lost Levels that's why that one is just a level edit not a new game like this or Mario 3
Seems like this game is basically the midpoint of Doki Doki Panic's Mariofication, since some things have been changed (e.g. the characters, some of the music), but other things are still DDP's (like the lamps and the lack of animation in most places).
Kinda wish they woulda kept the underworld theme (makes it feel more true to Mario), but at least it showed up again in SMB3.
Pretty nifty stuff here!
I personally think that this Prototype version should've been the actual version released. Maybe with a few modifications too.
Well, ddp did start development as a Mario game
I definitely wasn’t expecting the underground theme to go double time with the drums. That’s really neat.
So no eye whites, Luigi’s feet don’t move so rapidly, faster water falls, lamp door, pre SMB3 under ground music, slight variation of the star music, plain slots, different ending. Still wish Nintendo would retire bowser and the mushroom kingdom for a newer adventure based on this Mario game. Or at least a 3D open world remake of this. Maybe watt escapes the dream world and takes over. The closest we got was the super Mario advance 4 (smb3 with added smb2 features)
The waterfall is blinding us all...
Will always be the true SMB 2 to me
@Comedy Room not to mention it was in development first before Nintendo shelved it in favor of making a rom hack of the first game
@Comedy Room yeah, it’s kinda weird that Japan got copped out of getting SMB2 in its original form until 1992 and instead got something different and a harder version of SMB1 while we pretty much got the real thing
The prototype themes are more different.
1. The underground theme sounds a bit the same like super mario bros. 3
2. The invincibility theme also sounds like super mario bros. 3 invincibility. More differences:
1. Mario's eyes do not have an eye white, in the full release of the sequel, he has eye white.
2: the bonus screen is different than the original,
3. The cherries are not moving, and many other items are not moving.
4. The water is moving more faster than the full release, I think.
There are many differences to the prototype.
Oh yeah, and the end screen after the contributor or prize money screen,
Doki Doki Panic: Scene where the twins are rescued and ma, pa, imajin and lina come out of the book and "the end" in Japanese comes on screen in the top right corner. After you set the correct side of the disk, you can play again.
SMB2 prototype: A bland blue screen with "THE END" in the center. Press Start and you're back at the title screen.
SMB2: There's a cast roll, and the scene is Mario in bed. After the cast roll, "The End" is being written in cursive at the top right. The game is soft locked when this happens.
@@tayway210Originalmente Toad No Corre Rápido
So basically this game went full circle. Started off as a beta mario game to ddp back to a mario game l?
If only Nintendo of America would let Super Mario Bros. The Lost Levels be in America, This game would’ve never existed as Super Mario Bros. 2.
And, DDP would still exist (probably making games to this day)
Mario's sprite looks like from Super Mario Bros 3
Does anyone else vastly prefer the beta underground theme to the one we got? I feel like the final one is a bit repetitive and not as catchy
well the prototype version of super mario bros 2 marios eyes look like the eyes that in super mario bros 3 mario has
1:47 dat music doe.... amazing
The underground music has changed, the eyes of Mario and Luigi and the water
So, this prototype was before Doki Doki? I was thinking this was a prototype of when they decided to change it to Mario...
Well some say that DDP was originally going to be a Mario game early in development. However, I doubt the prototype shown in this video is what they're referring to.
@@RareGraySunflower DDP did definetely start as a Mario Prototype, but this isn't that same Prototype, as this prototype was on cartridge and not disk. This is likely when they were re-inserting the Mario assets for release outside of Japan.
in the normal version of super mario bros 2 marios eyes are not looking like that in the prototype version so the driffrent things are the loud drums the other menu thing and marios eyes
The waterfalls were so much more eye-tearing
MARIO (IMAJIN)
LUIGI (MAMA)
PRINCESS (LINA)
TOAD (PAPA)
Peach looks demonic
This person don't know what he's doing when playing this game
They also suck at this game
you do realize that this prototype doesnt allow you to run, right?
My word the cave theme is fantastic
can't believe i'm saying this, but i prefer the Starman and Underground theme in this version over the final version
Mario: Mama? Mama Luigi?? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
This looks like a mid-way production of modifying from Doki Doki Panic to the final version of SMB2. The running feature was not added yet, which DDP doesn't have. Also, the subspace (magic space) "kettle," fast waterfalls that nearly give people epilepsy, and the "prize money" at the end are also from DDP.
Also, I was playing this version on OpenEMU, and I found that some parts are laggy. Is this because of the ROM itself, like the performance issue from the ROM? Or just my computer?
Someone put luigi's Prototype sprite but black Overwalls and eyes and slap it on a mario 3
I kinda wonder if Bowser was on Vacation when this SMB2 came out?
Bro the underground beat is 🔥🔥🔥
1:57 ooh
even luigis eyes look like that?! wow a copy of super mario brothers 3 in super mario brothers 2 wooooooooooow i cant say nothing
This sounds like the undergraduate theme in smb 3
How did I spell underground wrong.
Why couldn`t they have just left this ending?
Famulator Eh, yeah, now that I think of it.
@Famulator: I think that Frickzoid meant the prize Wining 500,000$ they remove that from both Doki Doki panic, and the West official Super Mario bros 2. to prevent false advertising, and also to prevent someone from actually believing that he win that amount as real cash by just beating the game.
@Famulator i agree, that's way too much "a winner is you" bullshit, plus the sleeping Mario music is beautifully dreamy
@Famulator Yikes, imagine thinking it’s insulting when a lot of older games had an ending like that. 😬
The fact Mario skin Looked Similiar to the SMB.3
I like the happy endings.
I actually have this rom. Your video is still good, in my opinion.
Neat how it sounds like the Underwater theme from SMB.
Doki doki panic Vs Super Mario Bros.2
32:30 THE END
So this is where the SMB3 graphics came from!
@@mikefolknation2851 Where did you hear that from?
@@mikefolknation2851 While SMB2 and the Japanese release of SMB3 were in the same month and year, I highly doubt that these assets are actually from SMB3. DDP started out as a Mario Prototype, so it could be very likely that these were the assets used then.
@@mikefolknation2851 The first Mario 2 Prototype was shelved around 1986, so there is completely no way that they used SMB3 graphics, come on, it's just connecting the dots.
@@mikefolknation2851 Except DDP started off as a Mario Prototype.
@@mikefolknation2851 1. Yes, it did start off as a Mario Prototype, but was repurposed for DDP and
2. Super Mario Bros 3 wasn't delayed for a U.S release cause "it didn't make sense to release a 3rd game without the 2nd" it was cause of cartridge shortages at the time.
Jeez do some research.
i really want to play this now
i like the starman music in this one better
Was this the one that was found at a garage sale?
I rather prefer the way this one ended, without showing it being Mario's dream. Other than that, the unlimited continues, and flexibility with characters, I largely prefer the final version...
While the official released version of SMB2 is 257KB, this demo version is only 128KB,and while it is true that most objects and tile sets are not animated and the fact that is has no propper ending among other things,but it still blows my mind that it is only 128KB in size,but that’s a good thing because i can play it on GBA movie play via pocketnes, and i consider this demo version waaay better then the official released version because this version really feels more like a mario game,all because it contains the more kickass action pased underground tune😁😁🙏🙏👍
If you say this rom is extremely difficult to find do you have a download link? If not could you send it to me via email?
Thundrex I have it. Do you want me to send it to you?
I like everything about this version. Except the fact you can’t run, and peach looks creepy as hell in this, and toad still actually has feet in this prototype.
3:15 i heard an "AH!" when birdo died... 5:40 and i hear an "ow!" too...
The noise is worse in Doki Doki Panic
Yeah this was the same two birds noises I remember from my bed cartridge from the 80s
ArzMario: That his basicly what Super mario bros.2 would have look like an sound like if Yomi kojo doki doki panic never existed as a game, and also that would have cost Super Mario Bros. The lost level to never exist. So which super mario bros. game we would have got if Super Mario bros. the lost level never existed. Maybe Hudson soft Super Mario bros. Special recreated for a console game.
DDP started out as a Mario Prototype that explored vertical scrolling but was eventually shelved. They had to release a sequel so they just decided to re-skin SMB1 and add the levels from Super Mario Bros. VS. When they were making DDP, they decided to get that Mario Prototype again and rework it. When it came time to finally release a new Mario game in the west, they reinserted the Mario assets with some minor changes.
Yeah, you have a lot of details wrong.
@@bluepikman7851: Then explain why the Family computer mini classic edition does not have Super mario bros 2 Japanese version, they still put Super mario bros. 2 from the US in the Family computer mini classic edition, as their Super mario bros.2 as well, so the only way to get Super mario bros. the lost levels 8 bit version in both NES mini classic edition, and/or Family computer mini classlic edition his to Download a Rom of it, and Downloading the Family computer disc system Ram adapter, that his pne of the reason I did not buy the NES mini, and neither Family computer mini.
@@SuperNickid I wish your reply was actually possible to read.
@@bluepikman7851: I wish that I could read your comment, because all I read from your less comment his Troll, troll, troll
@@SuperNickid I'm not even trolling you idiot, your reply is legitimately a mess to read.
The prototype is better than original.
I saw the rom on TCRF
LOVED IT
Amazing !!! Where can i find the rom ?
and loud drums in the underworld
bruh kinda looks like the same beruhhhh
1987?
You can't run on this, the B button is only for picking up items, and it's weird how I found this by accident
Hello I suscribe your channel. like
It's so easy to find it
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Super Mario Bros. 2 (Prototype) was actually named Super Mario Bros. 1.5 i think
Any spices saying this is a prototype? Cuz with the right software, anyone can rom hack these days....
But in fact you can't change the music of original smb2/smbusa by using any tools(as far as i know),also some scenearies like the ending of the game,slot machine or else can't be changed by using any tools,too.
So I prefer to say it's an actual prototype rather than say it's a rom hack
@@SebunNeko you're such an idiot dude. You can hack in to the files of ANY game if the person has the know how. There's smb3 rom hacks. Don't say shif when you're nothing but clueless about it.
Plus why would I believe someone with the name "ThechinesecraftYT oxo"
This is real
Mario and Luigi’s sprite are better in this version
is yes.
Why Dident You Run?
You CANT run in this version.
That's how doki doki was too.
They added running when they changed it to Smb2 to make it more.... Mario-like
@@elijahshould2098 I tried playing this version and I'm not very used to it. Running is definitely helpful and makes this game easier.
why prize money would be exist in prototype? you cant earn money in real life if you beat this game >:(
Extra points that you can brag because of?
Super Mario Bros. 2 prototype VS final
Doki Doki Panic with mods
noh
@@blayeg8716 Yeah
No it isn’t
Why are people finding this comment all of a sudden?
No lol
オーケー
Super Mario Bros 2 (SNES) is better than Super Mario Bros.2 (NES)
What is Smb2 snes? You mean the all stars version?
And Super Mario Bros. 2 (Game Boy Advance) is better than both, in my opinion.
i have that rom!
Someone this bad at the game should not upload video of themselves playing. It's just too frustrating to watch. I don't expect people to play perfectly, or at expert level even, but this is just terrible.
In the prototype you can't run
So that's probably why....
Muy lento vas
This game is a bootleg