Time stamps 00:00 Intro and topic: Son of Man in the Gospels 1:32 Dr. Ataie begins 4:18 What is "son of man" 7:56 Dr. Ataie's opinion of whom "son of man" in Daniel ch. 7 is referring to 9:13 Jewish and Christian conceptions of who the "son of man" is 11:34 Paul of Tarsus' Christology (Greek pagan influences in the Gospels) 34:05 The book of Daniel background 41:12 The vision in Daniel ch. 7 44:02 Christian conceptions of Daniel ch. 7 48:59 Angel explains the vision to Daniel 50:24 Jewish exegetical opinion 57:42 Issues with Christian understanding of "son of man" 1:01:40 Dr. Ataie's understanding of the fourth beast and the nation of "son of man" 1:02:29 Book of Enoch 1:04:55 Quran's criticism of some Jews worshipping Uzair as "son of God" + historical Jewish worship of Metatron 1:09:34 "son of man" in Enoch + Greco-Roman mythological influences on pre-Christian Judaism 1:17:29 Enochic influences on New Testament writings (Angelomorphic Christology) 1:25:25 False prophesies in Christian Scriptures/tradition 1:31:50 Quranic writing vs Biblical writing 1:34:46 False prophesy attributed to Jesus AS in the Gospels + Quran's vindication of Jesus AS 1:43:16 Cohesion between academic scholarly understanding of Jesus and the Islamic Jesus AS 1:47:13 Brief foray into the crucifixion of Jesus AS 1:52:13 Sacred history of Jesus AS, the apocalyptic prophet 1:57:34 Revisiting the scriptures to identify "son of man" 2:05:57 Identity of the little horn of the fourth beast 2:18:10 Closing Remarks, plans for future discussions P.S. Thank you for all your work Paul. These conversations with Dr. Ali Ataie and Dr. Muqtedar Khan have been tremendously insightful.
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Just the Cyrus or Alexander stories are israilliyat, meaning they have no basis in purely islamic litterature and found basis in jewish one. A thing to consider regarding such assertions is that nowhere in the Quran will you find a pagan that is blessed. Yet both Cyrus and Alexander were pagans without a doubt, so one should ponder if Allah would glorify a pagan by even putting his name in the Quran...
This man is a modern day genius, a powerhouse of scriptural hermeneutics, a lexicon of antiquated languages with a brain and memory the size of a large planet. May Allah bless him for his services to the quest of truth. We love you Dr Ataie and thank you Paul for inviting him again and again.
@@allanwilliams2079 I have read his book and listened to him attentively and extensively. His scriptural knowledge and hermeneutical grasp is second to none. No one knows every thing and we are free to disagree and debate but that is not a reason not to appreciate and acknowledge their intellectual prowess and hard work.
@Renato Lopez “Allah” Is a unique compound word of the 2 words “Al” (definite article) which translates to “the” and “elah” (Semitic word for “god”) therefore Allah translates to “The God” and it implies the uniqueness and singularity of God. Arab Christians and Yemeni Jews also use this word (Allah) when referring to the supreme deity that they worship. Christ also used such a word as it is Aramaic for “God.” see this clip from Mel Gibson’s movie: m.ua-cam.com/video/M33871ihJQ4/v-deo.html
@@moosa86 it's a bit more complicated. Allah can't be translated to "the God" because Al-Ilah already means "the God" in arabic. Allah is not changeable in account to numbers or gender, meaning the name itself has a meaning of uniqueness. Allah as such already encompasses the meaning of tawhid, there is no other god than Allah. A more accurate understanding would be "the only true God", because it both marks the uniqueness as well as the exclusion of every other possible deities. But even then, this is flawed and Allah knows best.
One excellent Muslim scholar like Dr. Ali , knowing Greek,Aramiac and Hebrew can do so much good.Imagine if he graduates 100 students following his path...
Dr Ali Ataie is one of the greatest in this era. I watched a number of his lectures and he breaks down all sides of opinions really well. Great interview Paul. Thank You.
The Son of Man in Daniel 7 is the Messiah, as even Rabbi Rashi agreed, so lets dig into the text. Daniel 7:13 says one "like a son of man." This being isn't just a man, but has the appearance of a man just like the glory of the Lord in Ezekiel 1. Jesus was put to death for what was perceived as blasphemy, specifically for His remarks in Mark 14:62 and Matthew 26:64, by combining two OT passages to Himself, including the Son of Man title. “I kept looking Until THRONES (plural) were set up, And the Ancient of Days (title for God/ Jesus has the appearance of the Ancient of Days in Revelation 1:14) was seated; His clothing was like white snow And the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne was ablaze with fire, Its wheels were a burning fire. “I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, with the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days And came near before Him. “And to Him was given dominion, Glory, and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations, and men of every tongue Might serve Him. HIS DOMINION IS AN EVERLASTING DOMINION Which will not be taken away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed." Daniel 7:9, 13-14 The Son of Man is the Messiah, as even Rashi's commentary admits, and this figure is obviously divine with an everlasting dominion, and people will "serve" him. The Hebrew word used here for serve is פְּלַח (pelach), which is always used in the context serving God- check a concordance on the word. Let's look at who the second Lord is in Psalm 110:1. Rashi said of the psalm that it was about Abraham, “but there is a difficulty in the fact that it speaks of Zion, which was the city of David." So even Rashi saw a problem with his exegete. The Midrash on the Psalms says of the verse ‘Sit at my right hand’, that “he says this to the Messiah; and his throne is prepared in grace and he will sit upon it”. But luckily verse 5 clears up who it's about......"The Lord is at Your right hand; He will crush kings in the day of His anger." Psalms 110:5 The Hebrew word used for Lord in verse 5 is - אֲדֹנָ֥י which is exclusively used for God. So it is literally God sitting at God's right hand. Both passages are about the Messiah, and both passages are speaking of a divine person. So the one "like" a Son of Man is indeed YHWH Himself. Fully God and fully man.
So excited for this viseo. Paul by far out of all your interviews the videos featuring Dr. Ali Ataie are hands down the most fascinating....ask him to appear monthly !!!
Thanks Paul. I waited for 4 days to comment because I had to watch this video over & over and for so many times to comprehend all the great materials and information it contains. It was really hard to stop repeatedly watching this video and this time I got my wife to do the same. We are now both addicted to Paul and Dr Ataie. Well done, and May Allah bless and reward both of you for educating both Muslims and Christians. Please keep brining Dr Ataie back, as we can never get enough of him or ever bore from watching him. Mark
Wow, like many, I had to rewind several times to barely grasp some points made by Dr. Ataie. What a delightful talk. It's going to take weeks for me to dissect and digest all that was said. So grateful again to both of you for bringing this knowledge to our homes. Surely you both have our love and respect. May Allah bless you both. 👍🏽😘
Jazakallah dear Paul. I have been waiting for months to listen Dr. Ali Atae in your podcast. May Allah bless you immensely Paul. We discovered this gem through a gem i.e you.
It took me 4 hours to watch this lecture with taking notes, stopping the Video, read verses, read about Metatron etc. May Allah bless u my brothers. Dr Ali Ataie is so knowledgable.
Is the profit coming back according to Islam? Or are you alleging this already happened? To my recollection nothing is further from the truth occurred with the profit, he died by poisoning. Also, are you sure it’s in line with Islam that allah give someone an everlasting dominion? Matthew 24:30 “Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[a] will mourn(A) when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven,(B) with power and great glory Matthew 16:19, Jesus says to Peter, "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on Earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on Earth shall be loosed in heaven. Isaiah 19 The burden against Egypt. Behold, the LORD rides on a swift cloud, And will come into Egypt; The idols of Egypt will totter at His presence, And the heart of Egypt will melt in its midst. Deuteronomy 33:26 Verse Concepts “There is none like the God of Jeshurun, Who rides the heavens to your help, And through the skies in His majesty. Psalm 68:33 To Him who rides upon the highest heavens, which are from ancient times; Behold, He speaks forth with His voice, a mighty voice. "As to him, by Allah, death has overtaken him, and I hope the best for him. By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 266)
@@Daniel-lt7sn this hadith refers to the world. Not the hereafter. The Prophet didn't know what will be his next task on earth. And yes, only God is all knowing. Jesus doesn't know the hour. The hg also doesn't it. Only the God of Jesus. Daniel 7 has nothing to do with jesus
@@Daniel-lt7sn and God is not a man or the son of a man in your bible. Jesus is the son of Mary. And Jesus also has a God whom he calls "my God and your God" or "only true God". God doesn't have a God. And Daniel 7 also doesn't say that the son of a man rides the clouds 😅
@@richman8082 The Hadith refers to the world? So muhammad saying that he doesn’t know what allah will do with him refers to muhammad not knowing what will happen to him on earth and not in the after life? So muhammad was confident about his salvation, he just wasn’t sure what his god had planned for him around the corner on earth? Or do they say, 'He has forged it'? Say: 'If I have forged it, you have no power to help me against Allah. He knows very well what you are pressing upon; He suffices as a witness between me and you; He is the All-forgiving, the All-compassionate.' Say: 'I am not an innovation among the Messengers, and I know not what shall be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me; I am only a clear warner.' S. 46:8-9
This program is one of the best program of Blogging Theology. Thanks to Mr. Williams and Mr. Ataie for their contributions to a topic which is so important in human life. Dr. Ataie is simply brilliant. He provided good words. He was able to bring out the correct interpretation of “ The Son of Man” by providing sufficient evidence, by unveiling the witnesses including the calendar. “ A good word is as a good tree - it’s roots are firm, and it’s branches are in heaven; The Qur’an- Abraham ( 14 ) : 30. Decisive human sport is visible in theology that involves mankind . Allah says in The Qur’an : “ and in this , that the messenger might be a witness against you , and that they might be witnesses against mankind .” The Qur’an - 22:76.
I have now listened to this three times. I imagine I will probably listen to it several more. The information presented here is remarkable. the connections to Enoch literature as well as the recognition of neoplatonism as a major influence to both Judaism and Christianity's developments. As someone who journeyed from Evangelical Christianity into rabbinic Judaism for several years, this info is absolutely priceless. Alhamdulillah for the deen of Islam.
Became emotional at certain parts of this amazing lecture! I definitely hope to hear Dr. Ataie discuss soon on Daniel 9 at some future date. Subhanallah
Thank U so much Brother Paul to invite such a distinguished Islamic and biblical scholar, professor Ali Ataie I believe such a program will benefit for both Muslims and non-muslims.
An important point that has bothered me for sometime now, the claim by the Quran, of uzair being son of God by the Jews not only expaciated to my satisfaction but cleared my mind from all the responds by the people of the book. What an epic lecture by Dr Ali. Well there you are again another masterpiece production by our able brother Paul. May Allah reward you and continue to enable in doing more to Islam through your blogging theology channel. Salam.
marvelous, alhamdulillah! listening to such a scholar like Dr. Ataie is always a pleasure and highly educative! thank you very much Paul for continiously inviting him to your chanel! jazakAllahu khayran to both of you!!
Brilliant discussion. The issue of Son of Man and Jesus ultimately being subservient to The God was one of the many factors that pushed me towards Islam 18 years ago. This discussion was enlightening and provided me with additional insights supporting this view. Thank you.
Pfff.. this is one of the beste lectures on this channel maa shaa Allah! These kinda lectures will be lectures I will watch over and over again to comprehend the knowledge of this outstanding brother! Can’t wait on the deep explanation of Daniel 9!! We really need to get this channel asap to at least 500k subs.
This will blast my mind cannot be expressed by just words this much knowledge by you people.Thanks for this free knowledge really one of the best youtube channel
@@BloggingTheology Can you please invite him again to talk about Isiah 21?. It's one of the most clear proof of prophethood of Muhammad pbuh. Even the jews agree that Muhammad pbuh is the camel rider and the messiah is the donkey rider which we will say it's Jesus but they will disagree of course.
"That's okay... that's life." I agree. And because there is so much in life that eludes our understanding, we do need to have "open minds" to various interpretations of ancient idioms, and in particular "son of man." As Dr. Ataie said, "we'll only scratch the surface..." Well... we have to begin somewhere, right? Good scholars are a good place to start. And I think we have great scholars both within Islam and Christianity !
Hey there John I watched this the other night and thought I’d pass it on to you as a digestible film to build your baseline understanding of early church history. Even though there are aspects of this video that I don’t agree with it is still good at helping to put names with faces. It’s a shame the presenter doesn’t go into more detail on the “Arian Controversy” of the 4th century and how it forever changed Christian theology but it’s to be expected as this is a highly controversial topic that modern (Trinitarian) Christians are biased on and don’t want to dwell on... Let me know what you think: m.ua-cam.com/video/onHIpArMENU/v-deo.html Please forgive me if I've said anything insensitive or offending... 🙏
MashaAllah! What a speaker! Br Paul thank you for bringing this gem of our Ummah in front of us. Notes...notes..notes..if you dont take notes, there is no point in watching his videos IMHO. Prof Ataie has got in depth knowledge of what he is speaking and you will lose out if one doesn't take notes.. Brilliant! Just brilliant..
Dear Paul…. Please invite Dr Ataei again on Blogging Theology. He is such a treasure to the Muslim Ummah and to the Abrahamic faith. A gem of our times.
Jazakallah Paul for yet another great video. Dr Atai is almost intellectually too superior for a layman like myself to keep up with at times but I am determined to persist and listen again and again too learn something valuable Inshaa Allah.
I don't have words to praise Dr. Ali, a powerhouse of knowledge. May Allah protect you and increase you in knowledge and make you a helper for the cause of Islam. I love brother Paul, may Allah bless you for your services to the deen al haq.
Wow, this was a breathtaking tour de force, indeed! I very much value Paul’s YT channel and his work, and this discussion with Dr. Ataie was nothing short of epic and mind-bending. Thank you both!
Dr Ali is amazing with ability to learn Greek, Hebrew, Arabic and English . A great polyglot of our times .Miracle of the living God . Any person can achieve miracles in life if Allah wills .
Wow! Dr. Ali's study of Bible is deep, very well researched! This is a top University lesson! I've learned much more details today, may Allah SWT reward you both for your efforts, Aamin! Mashallah!
Good morning sir! I thank you brother Paul for being who you are and for this amazingly educational talk with brother , scholar Dr. Ali Ataie, I benefit tremendously from watching and listening to your show, May Allah SWT preserve both of you gentlemen !
I met Paul in London Central mosque on Friday, just before he recorded this video. Nice to meet you in person Paul. These videos are beneficial for refutation of Christians. May Allah guide you with beneficial Knowledge.
David Livingstone discusses the huge impact of middle and neo Platonism (and ultimately, neo Babylonian philosophy) and the dying God concept of pantheism in his books; the take over and control of what is in effect a new and completely different religion from the tawheed presented and espoused by Isa (as) and continued by his disciples in Jerusalem and surroundings.
Amazing …completely amazing , Thank you so much for both of you gentlemen . Not sure if there is such scholarship academic information on any other youtube channels.
Dear Bro Paul and Dr Ali; it was extremely thoughtful and inspiring discussion; may Allah Swt bless you both in dunya and Akhrah for sharing such wonderful thoughts on this subject matter. Jaza ka Allah Khyran Bros. May Allah Swt bless guidance to the seekers who were listening. Ameen suma Ameen
Alhamdulillah.. another great, knowledge packed interview with dr Ali Ataie.. I love him, yet i disagree in some of his positions. But i love dr Ali Ataie for the sake of Allah. May Allah preserve you both.
Great job Paul et Dr Ataie, this is a masterpiece! Very instructive and beneficial for students of knowledge. Thank you both and jazakumul'Allah khairan.
Thank you Paul and thank you Professor Ali, it was amazing two hours. Hope Paul invites you more frequently to the best channel on UA-cam Blogging Theology.
Just watched a 3hr podcast featuring Prof Ali Ataie & now ready for another gripping session. Thank you to both gentlemen for making this the best intellectual channel I know of. May Allah keep & bless you both for many years to come in this dunya. Salaams.
Hi Paul…. Dr Ataie spoke briefly about the alleged crucifixion and some of the indicators from Paul’s letter and the gospels making statements regarding countering this issue. He mentioned he does not want to elaborate on the subject in this video but perhaps this can be the topic of another great discussion and another video where we can learn his views on the subject. Again another great video that I can’t stop watching over and over again, and probably would write more comments, while I continue to learn. Mark
Many thanks Paul for inviting Professor Ali Ataie to Blogging Thelogy, Excellant video on the abrahamic faiths, really enjoyed the discussion & learnt so much. Professor Ali Ataie truely has a brillant mind and deep Insight and the ability to explain difficult concepts in a very simple and easy way for lay person to understand. Many thanks :)
Thank you brother Paul for always inviting brother Professor Ali Ataie to your blessed channel, I can't tire watching and hearing him, Dr ataie is ocean of knowledge. what a treasure to the Ummah. May ALLAH (SWT) blessed all of you.
I do the same my dear from the other side of world . How beautiful ! We are all united by the love of God and the love of our beloved prophets of God . Mohammad and Jesus son of Mary . Peace be upon them and peace and progress to us all over the known world .
I have heard this talk twice in it's entirety. Absolutely fascinating. Dr Ali Ataie is a genius of our time. May Allah bless him and Paul for the effort and sharing the knowledge.
Thank to professor Ali stair. and Paul williams. Please professor Ali we need you to come back again in this very best chanel Blogging theology. Thank you all
Paul, Dr. Ataie is simply a font of knowledge and insight. I always eagerly await his discussions and presentations. Already looking forward to his next presentation on Blogging Theology!
الحمد لله الذي هدانا لهذا وماكنا لنهتدي لولا أن هدانا الله. Dear Paul we thank you for all the work you’ve done. Keep at it you’re special and you have what it takes tocarry the ba0:53
Time stamps
00:00 Intro and topic: Son of Man in the Gospels
1:32 Dr. Ataie begins
4:18 What is "son of man"
7:56 Dr. Ataie's opinion of whom "son of man" in Daniel ch. 7 is referring to
9:13 Jewish and Christian conceptions of who the "son of man" is
11:34 Paul of Tarsus' Christology (Greek pagan influences in the Gospels)
34:05 The book of Daniel background
41:12 The vision in Daniel ch. 7
44:02 Christian conceptions of Daniel ch. 7
48:59 Angel explains the vision to Daniel
50:24 Jewish exegetical opinion
57:42 Issues with Christian understanding of "son of man"
1:01:40 Dr. Ataie's understanding of the fourth beast and the nation of "son of man"
1:02:29 Book of Enoch
1:04:55 Quran's criticism of some Jews worshipping Uzair as "son of God" + historical Jewish worship of Metatron
1:09:34 "son of man" in Enoch + Greco-Roman mythological influences on pre-Christian Judaism
1:17:29 Enochic influences on New Testament writings (Angelomorphic Christology)
1:25:25 False prophesies in Christian Scriptures/tradition
1:31:50 Quranic writing vs Biblical writing
1:34:46 False prophesy attributed to Jesus AS in the Gospels + Quran's vindication of Jesus AS
1:43:16 Cohesion between academic scholarly understanding of Jesus and the Islamic Jesus AS
1:47:13 Brief foray into the crucifixion of Jesus AS
1:52:13 Sacred history of Jesus AS, the apocalyptic prophet
1:57:34 Revisiting the scriptures to identify "son of man"
2:05:57 Identity of the little horn of the fourth beast
2:18:10 Closing Remarks, plans for future discussions
P.S. Thank you for all your work Paul. These conversations with Dr. Ali Ataie and Dr. Muqtedar Khan have been tremendously insightful.
Brother proving Islam disagrees with Ali ataei over Cyrus.
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 it's okay to disagree 👍
@YYY MMM Allah, contrary to your beliefs is the name of God who created you and Muhammad is Allah's messenger.
Your stupidity is a shame for yourself
💖God bless u
@@falsesectslikeshiaarejudeo6543 Just the Cyrus or Alexander stories are israilliyat, meaning they have no basis in purely islamic litterature and found basis in jewish one.
A thing to consider regarding such assertions is that nowhere in the Quran will you find a pagan that is blessed. Yet both Cyrus and Alexander were pagans without a doubt, so one should ponder if Allah would glorify a pagan by even putting his name in the Quran...
This man is a modern day genius, a powerhouse of scriptural hermeneutics, a lexicon of antiquated languages with a brain and memory the size of a large planet. May Allah bless him for his services to the quest of truth. We love you Dr Ataie and thank you Paul for inviting him again and again.
Love you too!
@@aliataie101 ❤️
You have a way with words Suhail, respect...
@@BoqPrecision thank you
@@allanwilliams2079 I have read his book and listened to him attentively and extensively. His scriptural knowledge and hermeneutical grasp is second to none. No one knows every thing and we are free to disagree and debate but that is not a reason not to appreciate and acknowledge their intellectual prowess and hard work.
I see blogging theology I click.
I see Prof. Ali Ataie I click.
Both together! Always a treat. Thanks Paul and thank you Professor!
Very welcome!
@@BloggingTheology
Can Professor Ali explain who created Al lah??
And if al lah is created, has anyone seen al lah??
@Renato Lopez
“Allah” Is a unique compound word of the 2 words “Al” (definite article) which translates to “the” and “elah” (Semitic word for “god”) therefore Allah translates to “The God” and it implies the uniqueness and singularity of God. Arab Christians and Yemeni Jews also use this word (Allah) when referring to the supreme deity that they worship.
Christ also used such a word as it is Aramaic for “God.”
see this clip from Mel Gibson’s movie:
m.ua-cam.com/video/M33871ihJQ4/v-deo.html
@@moosa86 it's a bit more complicated. Allah can't be translated to "the God" because Al-Ilah already means "the God" in arabic.
Allah is not changeable in account to numbers or gender, meaning the name itself has a meaning of uniqueness. Allah as such already encompasses the meaning of tawhid, there is no other god than Allah.
A more accurate understanding would be "the only true God", because it both marks the uniqueness as well as the exclusion of every other possible deities.
But even then, this is flawed and Allah knows best.
@@renatolopez6337 Can the uncreated be created? And you'll see God soon enough. We'll all do in fact. No need to stress.
One excellent Muslim scholar like Dr. Ali , knowing Greek,Aramiac and Hebrew can do so much good.Imagine if he graduates 100 students following his path...
Inshallah
Dr Ali Ataie is one of the greatest in this era. I watched a number of his lectures and he breaks down all sides of opinions really well. Great interview Paul. Thank You.
The Son of Man in Daniel 7 is the Messiah, as even Rabbi Rashi agreed, so lets dig into the text. Daniel 7:13 says one "like a son of man." This being isn't just a man, but has the appearance of a man just like the glory of the Lord in Ezekiel 1.
Jesus was put to death for what was perceived as blasphemy, specifically for His remarks in Mark 14:62 and Matthew 26:64, by combining two OT passages to Himself, including the Son of Man title.
“I kept looking Until THRONES (plural) were set up, And the Ancient of Days (title for God/ Jesus has the appearance of the Ancient of Days in Revelation 1:14) was seated; His clothing was like white snow And the hair of His head like pure wool. His throne was ablaze with fire, Its wheels were a burning fire. “I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, with the clouds of heaven One like a Son of Man was coming, And He came up to the Ancient of Days And came near before Him. “And to Him was given dominion, Glory, and a kingdom, That all the peoples, nations, and men of every tongue Might serve Him. HIS DOMINION IS AN EVERLASTING DOMINION Which will not be taken away; And His kingdom is one Which will not be destroyed."
Daniel 7:9, 13-14
The Son of Man is the Messiah, as even Rashi's commentary admits, and this figure is obviously divine with an everlasting dominion, and people will "serve" him. The Hebrew word used here for serve is פְּלַח (pelach), which is always used in the context serving God- check a concordance on the word. Let's look at who the second Lord is in Psalm 110:1. Rashi said of the psalm that it was about
Abraham, “but there is a difficulty in the fact that it speaks of Zion, which was the city of David." So even Rashi saw a problem with his exegete. The Midrash on the Psalms says of the verse ‘Sit at my right hand’, that
“he says this to the Messiah; and his throne is prepared in grace and
he will sit upon it”.
But luckily verse 5 clears up who it's about......"The Lord is at Your right hand; He will crush kings in the day of His anger."
Psalms 110:5
The Hebrew word used for Lord in verse 5 is - אֲדֹנָ֥י which is exclusively used for God. So it is literally God sitting at God's right hand. Both passages are about the Messiah, and both passages are speaking of a divine person.
So the one "like" a Son of Man is indeed YHWH Himself. Fully God and fully man.
Trinity còncept should be classed under satanic verses!!
Yay Dr. Ali Ataie is back! One of my favorite speaker and guests. His insights are just remarkable.
I can listen to these lectures for hours and not get tired, and the sheer amount of information is something. Thank you Mr. Paul. Thank you Dr. Ali.
Glad you like them!
So excited for this viseo. Paul by far out of all your interviews the videos featuring Dr. Ali Ataie are hands down the most fascinating....ask him to appear monthly !!!
Thanks Paul. I waited for 4 days to comment because I had to watch this video over & over and for so many times to comprehend all the great materials and information it contains. It was really hard to stop repeatedly watching this video and this time I got my wife to do the same. We are now both addicted to Paul and Dr Ataie.
Well done, and May Allah bless and reward both of you for educating both Muslims and Christians. Please keep brining Dr Ataie back, as we can never get enough of him or ever bore from watching him. Mark
Agreed
I’ve been rewatching your discussions with Professor Ali Ataie religiously for the last few months, and eagerly waiting for the next one!
Sometimes I'm ashamed of myself for getting this level of content for free. Brother Paul, I just love you . ♥️♥️♥️♥️
You are so welcome!
All knowledge should be free. Especially religious knowledge or what benefits mankind.
Absolutely fabulous, erudite, comprehensively knowledgable, concise, fascinating lecture.
Thank you Dr Ali Ataie and Paul.
More…….
Glad you enjoyed it!
Wow, like many, I had to rewind several times to barely grasp some points made by Dr. Ataie. What a delightful talk. It's going to take weeks for me to dissect and digest all that was said. So grateful again to both of you for bringing this knowledge to our homes. Surely you both have our love and respect. May Allah bless you both. 👍🏽😘
Glad it was helpful!
Ameen
Listening to this right now and this about my 20th time. It gets me through my morning at work
Jazakallah dear Paul. I have been waiting for months to listen Dr. Ali Atae in your podcast. May Allah bless you immensely Paul.
We discovered this gem through a gem i.e you.
It took me 4 hours to watch this lecture with taking notes, stopping the Video, read verses, read about Metatron etc. May Allah bless u my brothers. Dr Ali Ataie is so knowledgable.
Is the profit coming back according to Islam? Or are you alleging this already happened? To my recollection nothing is further from the truth occurred with the profit, he died by poisoning. Also, are you sure it’s in line with Islam that allah give someone an everlasting dominion?
Matthew 24:30
“Then will appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven. And then all the peoples of the earth[a] will mourn(A) when they see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven,(B) with power and great glory
Matthew 16:19, Jesus says to Peter, "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on Earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on Earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Isaiah 19
The burden against Egypt. Behold, the LORD rides on a swift cloud, And will come into Egypt; The idols of Egypt will totter at His presence, And the heart of Egypt will melt in its midst.
Deuteronomy 33:26
Verse Concepts
“There is none like the God of Jeshurun,
Who rides the heavens to your help,
And through the skies in His majesty.
Psalm 68:33
To Him who rides upon the highest heavens, which are from ancient times;
Behold, He speaks forth with His voice, a mighty voice.
"As to him, by Allah, death has overtaken him, and I hope the best for him. By Allah, though I am the Apostle of Allah, yet I do not know what Allah will do to me." (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 266)
@@Daniel-lt7sn this hadith refers to the world. Not the hereafter. The Prophet didn't know what will be his next task on earth. And yes, only God is all knowing. Jesus doesn't know the hour. The hg also doesn't it. Only the God of Jesus. Daniel 7 has nothing to do with jesus
@@Daniel-lt7sn and God is not a man or the son of a man in your bible. Jesus is the son of Mary. And Jesus also has a God whom he calls "my God and your God" or "only true God". God doesn't have a God. And Daniel 7 also doesn't say that the son of a man rides the clouds 😅
@@Daniel-lt7sn and God doesn't die. Jesus died according to you 2000 years ago
@@richman8082 The Hadith refers to the world? So muhammad saying that he doesn’t know what allah will do with him refers to muhammad not knowing what will happen to him on earth and not in the after life? So muhammad was confident about his salvation, he just wasn’t sure what his god had planned for him around the corner on earth?
Or do they say, 'He has forged it'? Say: 'If I have forged it, you have no power to help me against Allah. He knows very well what you are pressing upon; He suffices as a witness between me and you; He is the All-forgiving, the All-compassionate.' Say: 'I am not an innovation among the Messengers, and I know not what shall be done with me or with you. I only follow what is revealed to me; I am only a clear warner.' S. 46:8-9
This program is one of the best program of Blogging Theology.
Thanks to Mr. Williams and Mr. Ataie for their contributions to a topic which is so important in human life.
Dr. Ataie is simply brilliant. He provided good words. He was able to bring out the correct interpretation of “ The Son of Man” by providing sufficient evidence, by unveiling the witnesses including the calendar.
“ A good word is as a good tree - it’s roots are firm, and it’s branches are in heaven;
The Qur’an- Abraham ( 14 ) : 30.
Decisive human sport is visible in theology that involves mankind .
Allah says in The Qur’an : “ and in this , that the messenger might be a witness against you , and that they might be witnesses against mankind .” The Qur’an - 22:76.
Absolutely agreed
@@dwiyantoprakosa2445 thanks.
I have now listened to this three times. I imagine I will probably listen to it several more. The information presented here is remarkable. the connections to Enoch literature as well as the recognition of neoplatonism as a major influence to both Judaism and Christianity's developments. As someone who journeyed from Evangelical Christianity into rabbinic Judaism for several years, this info is absolutely priceless. Alhamdulillah for the deen of Islam.
Agreed. This is also my 3＋ or nth time. The points you noted on the Hellenistic and Platonic influence also stood out for me.
Became emotional at certain parts of this amazing lecture! I definitely hope to hear Dr. Ataie discuss soon on Daniel 9 at some future date. Subhanallah
Thank U so much Brother Paul to invite such a distinguished Islamic and biblical scholar, professor Ali Ataie
I believe such a program will benefit for both Muslims and non-muslims.
Wow! I'm soo happy 😅 Thank you for the unexpected video with my favorite, Dr Ali Ataie. Jazakhallahu khayran Paul!❤🙏🏿
An important point that has bothered me for sometime now, the claim by the Quran, of uzair being son of God by the Jews not only expaciated to my satisfaction but cleared my mind from all the responds by the people of the book. What an epic lecture by Dr Ali.
Well there you are again another masterpiece production by our able brother Paul. May Allah reward you and continue to enable in doing more to Islam through your blogging theology channel.
Salam.
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I’m barely fifteen minutes in and think this might be one of the most epic video on UA-cam.
What an amazing surprise 😍. I ask Allah to bless you both dear brothers.
Dr Ali Ataie is always a pleasure to listen to. Very thorough overview.
marvelous, alhamdulillah! listening to such a scholar like Dr. Ataie is always a pleasure and highly educative! thank you very much Paul for continiously inviting him to your chanel! jazakAllahu khayran to both of you!!
Brilliant discussion. The issue of Son of Man and Jesus ultimately being subservient to The God was one of the many factors that pushed me towards Islam 18 years ago. This discussion was enlightening and provided me with additional insights supporting this view. Thank you.
Thank you so much brother Paul and Brother Ali. May Allah bless your efforts and increase your knowledge and wisdoms.
An absolutely brilliant presentation by one of the best lecturers I've ever listened to....
I Absolutely agree
Pfff.. this is one of the beste lectures on this channel maa shaa Allah! These kinda lectures will be lectures I will watch over and over again to comprehend the knowledge of this outstanding brother! Can’t wait on the deep explanation of Daniel 9!!
We really need to get this channel asap to at least 500k subs.
Did dr Ali ataie say anything on daniel 9 in terms of the prophet muhammad
This will blast my mind cannot be expressed by just words this much knowledge by you people.Thanks for this free knowledge really one of the best youtube channel
Dr Ali Atai is a walking encyclopedia, an xceptional scholar of our time. Please continue to invite him.
Inshallah
@@BloggingTheology Can you please invite him again to talk about Isiah 21?. It's one of the most clear proof of prophethood of Muhammad pbuh. Even the jews agree that Muhammad pbuh is the camel rider and the messiah is the donkey rider which we will say it's Jesus but they will disagree of course.
Hebrew is a lie
"That's okay... that's life." I agree. And because there is so much in life that eludes our understanding, we do need to have "open minds" to various interpretations of ancient idioms, and in particular "son of man." As Dr. Ataie said, "we'll only scratch the surface..." Well... we have to begin somewhere, right? Good scholars are a good place to start. And I think we have great scholars both within Islam and Christianity !
Hey there John I watched this the other night and thought I’d pass it on to you as a digestible film to build your baseline understanding of early church history. Even though there are aspects of this video that I don’t agree with it is still good at helping to put names with faces. It’s a shame the presenter doesn’t go into more detail on the “Arian Controversy” of the 4th century and how it forever changed Christian theology but it’s to be expected as this is a highly controversial topic that modern (Trinitarian) Christians are biased on and don’t want to dwell on...
Let me know what you think:
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Please forgive me if I've said anything insensitive or offending... 🙏
MashaAllah! What a speaker! Br Paul thank you for bringing this gem of our Ummah in front of us.
Notes...notes..notes..if you dont take notes, there is no point in watching his videos IMHO. Prof Ataie has got in depth knowledge of what he is speaking and you will lose out if one doesn't take notes..
Brilliant! Just brilliant..
I've downloaded the previous lectures and this too ... Soon will be making a whole diary of notes . Inshallah
Dear Paul…. Please invite Dr Ataei again on Blogging Theology. He is such a treasure to the Muslim Ummah and to the Abrahamic faith. A gem of our times.
Jazakallah Paul for yet another great video. Dr Atai is almost intellectually too superior for a layman like myself to keep up with at times but I am determined to persist and listen again and again too learn something valuable Inshaa Allah.
many good podcast this week, and this even better.
Thank you Paul and Prof. Atta'ie.
Jazakumullahu Khairan
Wow wow wow. Life just makes so much more sense after listening to Ali Atai thanks to Paul. May Allah swt bless you both abundantly.
I don't have words to praise Dr. Ali, a powerhouse of knowledge. May Allah protect you and increase you in knowledge and make you a helper for the cause of Islam. I love brother Paul, may Allah bless you for your services to the deen al haq.
Every time I start a video with Dr. Atie I have a huge smile on my face lol
Great interview / presentation! Love seeing Dr. Ali Ataie and I am definitely looking forward to Dr. John J. Collins 🙏👏
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love prof. Ali Ataie . The longer the video, the happier I get.
Wow, this was a breathtaking tour de force, indeed! I very much value Paul’s YT channel and his work, and this discussion with Dr. Ataie was nothing short of epic and mind-bending. Thank you both!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks again Paul and Dr Ali Ataie
can't wait for watch the full video. Thanks Br. Paul
Dr Ali is amazing with ability to learn Greek, Hebrew, Arabic and English . A great polyglot of our times .Miracle of the living God .
Any person can achieve miracles in life if Allah wills .
Alhamdulillah another precious video of people of knowledge.
Thank you bro Paul and Dr. Ali Atai 💐😇
Mind-blowing information & so we’ll presented. Thx for sharing.
great conversation, really just a wealth of knowledge of this field, bless you Paul and Dr Ali
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Agree with Dr. Ali, this is the best channel we can find on youtube.
Wow! Dr. Ali's study of Bible is deep, very well researched! This is a top University lesson! I've learned much more details today, may Allah SWT reward you both for your efforts, Aamin! Mashallah!
I agree with you and I'm a Christian believer.
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Good morning sir! I thank you brother Paul for being who you are and for this amazingly educational talk with brother , scholar Dr. Ali Ataie, I benefit tremendously from watching and listening to your show, May Allah SWT preserve both of you gentlemen !
Good morning and thank you!
I met Paul in London Central mosque on Friday, just before he recorded this video.
Nice to meet you in person Paul. These videos are beneficial for refutation of Christians.
May Allah guide you with beneficial Knowledge.
ALİ ATAİE İS BACK! I swear when i see this guy on my homepage i automatically click your videos.
David Livingstone discusses the huge impact of middle and neo Platonism (and ultimately, neo Babylonian philosophy) and the dying God concept of pantheism in his books; the take over and control of what is in effect a new and completely different religion from the tawheed presented and espoused by Isa (as) and continued by his disciples in Jerusalem and surroundings.
Mashallah may Allah preserve, bless both you and Dr Ali. He is just memorising
Started listening in st Louis Missouri and ended in TUlSA,OK almost 250 miles thanks to you both brothers I really enjoyed the show
Amazing …completely amazing , Thank you so much for both of you gentlemen . Not sure if there is such scholarship academic information on any other youtube channels.
When I see Dr Ali 🎉🤗& I think it’s not only me bt all of blogging theology ‘s fans
Thnx for both of u , blessing ur days amen 🤲🏻🌺🌺
Dr Ataie is a treasure of scriptural knowledge👏
Dear Bro Paul and Dr Ali; it was extremely thoughtful and inspiring discussion; may Allah Swt bless you both in dunya and Akhrah for sharing such wonderful thoughts on this subject matter. Jaza ka Allah Khyran Bros. May Allah Swt bless guidance to the seekers who were listening. Ameen suma Ameen
Alhamdulillah.. another great, knowledge packed interview with dr Ali Ataie.. I love him, yet i disagree in some of his positions. But i love dr Ali Ataie for the sake of Allah. May Allah preserve you both.
Gud to see Dr Ali back on Ur blog. May Allah bless u both
Great job Paul et Dr Ataie, this is a masterpiece! Very instructive and beneficial for students of knowledge. Thank you both and jazakumul'Allah khairan.
Thank you Paul and thank you Professor Ali, it was amazing two hours. Hope Paul invites you more frequently to the best channel on UA-cam Blogging Theology.
Brother Poul, yours is the best chanel on youtube, without a doubt. I love wach all your videos. Thank you for your dedication.
This was a Brilliant discussion and a timely one in light of another debate similar to this that happened last week!
It is 4.30am in Malaysia, and I m still enjoying watching this.... Very interesting and informative....
Just watched a 3hr podcast featuring Prof Ali Ataie & now ready for another gripping session. Thank you to both gentlemen for making this the best intellectual channel I know of. May Allah keep & bless you both for many years to come in this dunya. Salaams.
Thanks for listening! wa alaikum assalam.
Hi Paul…. Dr Ataie spoke briefly about the alleged crucifixion and some of the indicators from Paul’s letter and the gospels making statements regarding countering this issue. He mentioned he does not want to elaborate on the subject in this video but perhaps this can be the topic of another great discussion and another video where we can learn his views on the subject. Again another great video that I can’t stop watching over and over again, and probably would write more comments, while I continue to learn. Mark
Jazakoum Allah khayran to you both brothers , amazing channel & may Allah SWT bless you both for this great work ....Keep them coming please
That was extraordinary! Thank you both!
Many thanks Paul for inviting Professor Ali Ataie to Blogging Thelogy, Excellant video on the abrahamic faiths, really enjoyed the discussion & learnt so much. Professor Ali Ataie truely has a brillant mind and deep Insight and the ability to explain difficult concepts in a very simple and easy way for lay person to understand. Many thanks :)
Glad you enjoyed it
This is superb content! Can’t believe we are getting this for FREE! Simply Outstanding 🌟👏🌟👏🌟👏🌟
Glad you like it!
Thank you brother Paul for always inviting brother Professor Ali Ataie to your blessed channel, I can't tire watching and hearing him, Dr ataie is ocean of knowledge. what a treasure to the Ummah. May ALLAH (SWT) blessed all of you.
Dr. Ali Ataie is a treasure ✨ Thank you sir, thank you 🙏
Paul and Ali took us on a wonderful journey, may Allah bless them both.
Brilliant dr. Ataie! Bravo brother Paul!
I think these topics are very important, thank you for your sharing your time and knowledge
I wish more people saw these topics as "important." Too many people would simply reply, "who cares."
We need Dr, Ali to show up on your show Paul all the time.
Wonderful.
Dr. Ali is one great scholar.
Much respect to both of you and thank you so much for this. May God bless you both.
Its 7:30am here in Malaysia. Watching this now as my morning tazkirah.
I do the same my dear from the other side of world .
How beautiful ! We are all united by the love of God and the love of our beloved prophets of God . Mohammad and Jesus son of Mary . Peace be upon them and peace and progress to us all over the known world .
@@786humaira1 Alhamdulillah
Masha'Allah another impressive presentation by Dr. Ali Ataie! Thanks Paul for hosting and making this lecture available.
It's really amazing ❤️❤️❤️
I have heard this talk twice in it's entirety. Absolutely fascinating. Dr Ali Ataie is a genius of our time. May Allah bless him and Paul for the effort and sharing the knowledge.
Please bring him more, id pay to watch these
Very interesting i enjoyed it thanks and thanks to the Noble Professor
Ok, so I'm a Christian. But now I want to learn more about Islam. Where do I start? Where can I get physical books to read and study.
Watch Christian Prince videos. A daily showing.
Visit your nearest mosque and speak to the imam if you can. Don’t listen to the troll above.
Thank to professor Ali stair. and Paul williams. Please professor Ali we need you to come back again in this very best chanel Blogging theology.
Thank you all
Paul, Dr. Ataie is simply a font of knowledge and insight. I always eagerly await his discussions and presentations. Already looking forward to his next presentation on Blogging Theology!
you know there’s a lot of truth in this lecture when there’s so many ads disrupting the points Ali makes
Mind blowing. Thank you both. Is it possible to turn this information into E-book on Amazon and Kindle. Thank you and I ask Allah to bless you.
Alhamdulillah, very very eye-opening talk.
My favorite guest!
الحمد لله الذي هدانا لهذا وماكنا لنهتدي لولا أن هدانا الله. Dear Paul we thank you for all the work you’ve done. Keep at it you’re special and you have what it takes tocarry the ba0:53
I wanted to say carry the banner
Two giants, Williams and Ataie. Love you guys...
Fascinating! I listened from start to finish in one sitting
We appreciate this mr.Paul thinks
May Allah protect you Dr Ali Ayalie and thank you Paul.. you have done it again....
M. Atai is a master in his field, impressive!!
Aslm Paul, love you and your program, this was amazing cant wait for the next one. Dr Ataie is a walking encyclopedia. Great show....